 DistroWatch Weekly |
| DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 1130, 14 July 2025 |
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Welcome to this year's 28th issue of DistroWatch Weekly!
Technology rarely progresses smoothly or in a straight line. For every story about new advancements in data storage there is another about some government infrastructure still using floppy disks. For each new, exciting display technology there is a not-for-profit office running CRT monitors. This week we talk a bit about some technology moving forward while other developers seek to maintain what already works. In our News section we discuss Alpine planning a development release of its Wayback technology - a tool which allows X11 desktops to run on Wayland. We also report on openSUSE seeking input from people running 32-bit ARM equipment as the project determines how much longer to support the ageing architecture. Plus we share a series of benchmark articles comparing Wayland and X11 performance across distributions, desktops, and video cards. We also talk about Bazzite making Bazaar its default Flatpak store across editions while Red Hat expands its offering of free developer licenses for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Plus we remind readers that Ubuntu 24.10 has reached the end of its supported life. We begin this week with a look at openSUSE's MicroOS and the status of this immutable distribution. We also share a quick look at a relatively new member of the DistroWatch database: RefreshOS. In our Questions and Answers section we talk about how to share aliases across computers. How many aliases do you have set up on your Linux systems? Let us know in this week's Opinion Poll. We then share the releases of this past week and list the torrents we are seeding. This week we are also pleased to add a few new projects to our database and we share highlights about them below. We wish you all a fantastic week and happy reading!
This week's DistroWatch Weekly is presented by TUXEDO Computers.
Content:
- Review: openSUSE's MicroOS and RefreshOS 2.5
- News: Bazzite makes Bazaar its default Flatpak store, Alpine plans Wayback release, Wayland and X11 benchmarked, Red Hat offers additional developer licenses, openSUSE seeks feedback from ARM users, Ubuntu 24.10 reaches the end of its life
- Questions and answers: Sharing aliases between computers
- Released last week: Exton Linux 250707 "DebEX", Parrot 6.4, NethServer 8.5, CachyOS 250713, GParted Live 1.7.0-8
- Torrent corner: CachyOS, Parrot
- Opinion poll: How many aliases does your shell know?
- Site news: Removing old podcasts
- New additions: arcOS, Macaroni OS, TeaLinux, Vipnix LiveCD, Ximper Linux
- Reader comments
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| Feature Story (By Jesse Smith) |
openSUSE MicroOS
It has been nearly two years since I last tried running openSUSE's MicroOS edition. The MicroOS edition is meant to be reliable, in part due to its immutable nature and Btrfs snapshots. When I last tried MicroOS its flavours (GNOME and Plasma) were in beta and alpha status, respectively. I wanted to see if openSUSE's immutable edition had made progress the way Fedora's atomic editions have been evolving in recent years.
The download for MicroOS is a 2.4GB ISO file. Booting from this medium displays a boot menu where we are given the option of performing a self-test to verify the integrity of the ISO and another option offers to launch the system installer.
Installing
MicroOS launches a graphical system installer which begins by asking which role we want to select for our system. The options are as follows:
- MicroOS - a minimal system with no services.
- Container Host - includes Podman for container management.
- Kalpa - MicroOS running the Plasma desktop environment.
- Remote Attestation - a system for running the Keylime service.
In the past there was another flavour or role for GNOME users called Aeon, but that role is not mentioned in the system installer. It looks as though Aeon has been spun off into a semi-separate project with its own website and install media. I picked the Kalpa role for my trial.
The installer's following screens ask us to make up a username and a password. We are then shown a summary screen where the installer lists the actions it will take. The installer appears to be set up to take over an entire disk with a Btrfs storage volume. We are also told that the system will boot into a graphical environment.
The system installer copied its packages to my drive and then automatically restarted my machine and launched the newly installed operating system. The distribution booted to a text console where I was shown a login prompt. I was able to login, but I was unable to successfully launch a graphical environment or get a graphical login screen. I tried launching the graphical service and attempted some alternative boot options, but without any luck.
A few years ago the Kalpa/Plasma flavour of MicroOS was considered to be in alpha status. While it did work for me (a few years ago), with some issues, it seems as though Kalpa is still unstable. I decided to try the Aeon/GNOME flavour which, the documentation states, had advanced into beta status and, a year ago, had offered a more polished environment.
Installing (again)
The previous time I tried MicroOS, the Aeon flavour had been considered more stable and further along in its development process than the Kalpa flavour. There are several download options for Aeon and they are all collected together in a shared directory without much guidance as to which one people are likely to want. I downloaded a recent snapshot of the Aeon edition which was 1.6GB in size.
Booting from the Aeon ISO brings up a text-based installer which offers to take over an entire local drive. All we need to do is confirm we want to proceed and the distribution is copied to our disk and then the system reboots and starts a first-run wizard. This configuration tool asks us to pick our keyboard layout, choose our timezone from a list, and then we are asked to make up a username and password. The wizard is quite picky about password length and complexity and this screen took longer to get through than the rest of the install process.
When finished with the configuration steps, the system presents us with a text console. I was unable to get a graphical environment to start, despite Aeon being the GNOME desktop flavour of MicroOS. Again, after trying a few different boot options and trying to start a login session service I decided to switch tracks once more.
Installing (one more time)
I decided to try MicroOS Leap. Leap is openSUSE's stable, long-term support branch so I figured if there was reliability to be found in the MicroOS ecosystem, Leap would provide it. Leap's MicroOS ISO is 1.4GB in size. The text-based system installer ran, just as it had with the Aeon edition. But then, once the initial install finished, instead of showing me a first-run configuration wizard, the distribution failed to load properly and dropped me to a rescue prompt.
At this point in the adventure I gave up on MicroOS. I had used various flavours of MicroOS in the past, reviewing it (with a fair degree of success) in 2022 and in 2023. The project was in its fairly early stages then, but it was functional.
Now MicroOS feels like it has been left to rot, it feels abandoned. The documentation is out of date and looks like it hasn't changed in two years. The download options are disorganized. None of the three flavours I tried ran successfully, though the first edition would at least run a graphical installer and finish its install process.
It looks as though new images of MicroOS are being built on a regular basis, two of the ISOs I tried this week were just days old, but it looks as though no one is testing or improving the builds. The project has declined in the past few years at a time when Fedora and Ubuntu are ramping up their immutable flavours.
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RefreshOS 2.5
Since I wasn't getting anywhere with MicroOS I decided to take a look at another project: RefreshOS. According to the project's website, RefreshOS can be described as follows:
RefreshOS 2.5 is a fast, clean, and modern Linux operating system built on the solid foundation of Debian 12.11. Designed to be the perfect middle ground between the complexity of pure Debian and the bloat of mainstream alternatives, RefreshOS delivers a powerful yet minimal desktop experience right out of the box. Installation is quick and beginner-friendly thanks to the Calamares graphical installer, making setup straightforward even for first-time Linux users.
The distribution features the Plasma desktop environment and, by design, does not include support for portable package formats such as Flatpak and Snap.
The RefreshOS ISO file for version 2.5 is approximately 3GB in size. Booting from the ISO brings up the Plasma desktop, version 5.27. A panel is placed at the bottom of the screen, the wallpaper shows us a cute dog, and there is an icon on the desktop for launching the system installer.
Hardware and performance
At this point my experiments with RefreshOS dovetailed. When running the distribution inside VirtualBox the system ran well, connected to the local network, its audio worked, and the system was responsive.
When I was running the distribution on my laptop there were a few issues. Some of these were minor. For example, the screen brightness was set unusually low, even when on AC power. Fortunately, the keyboard's shortcut keys allowed me to adjust screen brightness easily enough. My touchpad worked, but the desktop didn't register taps as clicks. This could be fixed with a trip to the System Settings utility to change mouse behaviour. A much bigger issue was RefreshOS couldn't detect my wireless card, therefore I had no network connection. I poked around the settings panel for a while, but RefreshOS seemed certain I had no network card in my laptop at all and I was not able to even scan for available wireless connections. (When running in VirtualBox a network connection was activated automatically.)
It is very rare for a Linux distribution to not detect and set up my laptop's wireless card. It has happened a few times, usually with distributions which follow a strict "no non-free firmware" policy. RefreshOS does not appear to have any such "free software only" approach, so I'm surprised it didn't detect all of my hardware.
This left me to perform nearly all of my tests in a virtual machine. This wasn't ideal, but I hope to showcase the distribution's key features by way of the virtual environment.
Installing
RefreshOS ships with the Calamares system installer rather than its parent's classic installer. Calamares is a lot faster than Debian's installer and it only takes a few clicks, plus making up a username and password, to get the system installed. Calamares offers to set up the distribution on an ext4 or Btrfs partition, though we can override the filesystem choice in the manual partitioning section of Calamares.
Early impressions
Once installed RefreshOS boots to a graphical login screen where were are shown a pretty background featuring a tree-lined road. We have two session options - Plasma running on X11 and Plasma running on Wayland. The Wayland session is the default. Signing in brings up the Plasma 5.27 desktop rather than the more recent Plasma 6 desktop. For most practical purposes users are unlikely to notice a big difference. Plasma 5.x is slightly lighter and its panel doesn't float above the bottom of the screen, but the experience across 5.27 and 6.3 is mostly the same.
Plasma is set up with a mixed theme. The application menu and application title bars are dark while application backgrounds and menu bars are light. This, along with most aspects of the desktop, can be adjusted in the settings panel.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- The application menu
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The application menu has an unusual layout for a Linux distribution. The menu shows all application launchers in alphabetical order on the left side. On the right side we find folder names we can click to open the file manager. There are no software categories in the default application menu. This makes it fairly quick to find an item if we know its name, but it is slower to find an application based on its function if we don't know its name. I suspect this style is intended to make people migrating from Windows feel more at home as it resembles with Windows 10 Start menu.
Included software
Along with the unusual application menu layout there are a few unusual software choices mixed into RefreshOS. For example, KDE Plasma usually ships with the Dolphin file manager, but this distribution includes Nemo instead. Brave is the default web browser instead of the more commonly used Firefox, and LXTerminal replaces Konsole. I was also surprised to find Deepin Calendar instead of KOrganizer or GNOME Calendar, and KMail instead of Thunderbird.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- Exploring the filesystem with Nemo
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Some application options are more typical. For example, RefreshOS ships with LibreOffice, the VLC media player (with a full range of codecs), and the KDE Connect device pairing software. The Plasma System Settings panel is included and makes the user interface pleasantly flexible.
The distribution ships with manual pages, GNU command line tools, and the GNU Compiler Collection. The distribution runs systemd and uses version 6.1 of the Linux kernel.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- Running LibreOffice, Pluma, and LXTerminal
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The distribution doesn't ship with many applications, but it uses a fairly average amount of disk space: 8.1GB for a fresh install. Memory usage is a little on the high side for KDE Plasma 5.27, with the desktop consuming 980MB of RAM while sitting idle.
Software management
RefreshOS provides the Discover software centre for managing software packages. Discover has a nice, modern layout, and I found it to be responsive. I was able to find the applications I wanted and install them with just a few clicks. Discover, and its underlying APT package manager, pull mostly from Debian's Stable repositories. There are a few additional repositories configured for providing items such as the Brave browser.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- The Discover software centre
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When new software updates become available for the system a notification appears on the desktop. We can then click an icon in the system tray which will launch Discover and display its Updates page. The update process through Discover was smooth and I had no problems while using it.
As mentioned earlier, RefreshOS doesn't ship support for Flatpak or Snap, but we can install these from Debian's repositories if we want to use portable packages.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- Checking for updates using APT
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Conclusions
I didn't spend a lot of time with RefreshOS, just a few days, due to its hardware limitations. However, when running the distribution in a virtual machine the distribution was mostly "pleasantly boring". It's Debian Stable running an older version of KDE Plasma and about as predictable, stable, and plain as that implies. Apart from the unusual application menu, which just took me a few hours to get used to navigating, nothing really stood out. RefreshOS doesn't appear to have any special features, problems, or unusual approaches which set it apart from the other dozen or so Debian-based distributions running the Plasma desktop. The default application selection (Brave, Deepin Calendar, and Nemo) are an odd combination to pair with Plasma, but the mixture works well enough.
RefreshOS 2.5 -- Using the System Settings panel to switch to a dark theme
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On the whole, it is a decent experience - I could get work accomplished and there were no nasty surprises. On the other hand RefreshOS doesn't do much to set itself apart from the rest of the pack. It's pleasantly average, at least in a virtual machine, and that's fine, but it doesn't do anything to draw users to the project beyond what other Debian-based desktop distributions are doing.
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Hardware used in this review
My physical test equipment for this review was an HP DY2048CA laptop with the following
specifications:
- Processor: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz
- Display: Intel integrated video
- Storage: Western Digital 512GB solid state drive
- Memory: 8GB of RAM
- Wireless network device: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT Wireless network card
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Visitor supplied rating
RefreshOS has a visitor supplied average rating of: 2/10 from 1 review(s).
Have you used RefreshOS? You can leave your own review of the project on our ratings page.
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| Miscellaneous News (by Jesse Smith) |
Bazzite makes Bazaar its default Flatpak store, Alpine plans Wayback release, Wayland and X11 benchmarked, Red Hat offers additional developer licenses, openSUSE seeks feedback from ARM users, Ubuntu 24.10 reaches the end of its life
The Bazzite project has announced a new update which includes the introduction of a new Flatpak software centre which will be consistent across editions of the distribution. "Bazaar is now the default Flatpak store for Universal Blue and all images of Bazzite! This is a brand new store with an important core objective: encourage developers to ship and maintain their applications for Linux themselves, while receiving support for this work. This is done by placing a focus on Flatpaks and Flathub as the source of applications. There is no RPM here! Important for cases where those are not supported, such as Bazzite." Additional information on the state of Bazzite can be found in the project's blog post.
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People who wish to continue to run X11 desktop sessions on distributions which are transitioning to Wayland-powered desktops recently received some good news. The Alpine Linux team announced they are developing Wayback, a stub which will allow X11 desktops and window managers to run on Wayland sessions. Progress has been rapid and the developers are planning to soon publish a beta of Wayback for people to test. "The main focus of this release is to get to a point where enough is working that users with basic setups and requirements can be reasonably served by Wayback in place of the X.org server, to allow for further testing. It's already to a point where I am daily driving it. Of course, while the first release is coming soon, the project remains in an experimental state, and the first release will itself be experimental, but we're making real progress towards a sustainable solution for the X11 problem." Screenshots of Wayback in action can be found in this blog post.
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Proponents of Wayland have been promoting the display protocol for over a decade, reporting how the replacement for X.Org will provide cleaner code, lighter display software, and a more efficient design. While Wayland has made great gains in recent years, performance and efficiency continue to be problems for the younger display protocol. Dedoimedo has published a series of benchmarks in which Plasma on Wayland vs Plasma on X11 performance, power consumption and efficiency are tested. The series of articles covers running Plasma on multiple distributions (including KDE neon and Fedora) and multiple video cards (AMD and NVIDIA), using X11 with and without compositing enabled. The final article then compares GNOME running on Wayland against Plasma (both Wayland and X11 sessions) and shares the results. "The results are quite interesting. By and large, GNOME Wayland, as implemented in Fedora, seems slightly less performant than Plasma's Wayland, which in turn, is less performant than X11, and as we've seen that, too, is still worse than X11 with compositing off. Significant numbers that, to me, tell one thing: it's too early to deprecate the old framework, because the new one still hasn't caught up. No emotion, no fanboyism, simple pragmatic c'est la vie.
If we look just at Wayland, on idle, GNOME performed worse in battery use and CPU data, with surprisingly good GPU numbers that do not align with any other test. Under load, again, GNOME's Wayland used most resources, and had the worst FPS count by far. Furthermore, Fedora's kernel seems to be doing a lot more work, but also doing it quite efficiently. Lastly, both Plasma's System Monitor and GNOME's System Monitor seem to be badly optimized tools, given what we've seen so far.
To sum it up, X11 is still the most optimal choice, performance wise, to say nothing of the compositing off option, which blows the rest out of the water. Plasma's Wayland implementation is better than GNOME's, it seems."
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Red Hat is expanding its offering of free licenses for developers who want unsupported copies of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. The company is now offering up to 25 licenses for developers. "Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Business Developers directly addresses these concerns by providing developers self-serve, no-cost access to a complete set of enterprise-ready, Red Hat Enterprise Linux content for use within their businesses. It helps provide greater consistency and reliability across developer and operations teams, regardless of where on the hybrid cloud the resulting application will live. Red Hat's latest developer offering includes: Simplified access to the world's leading enterprise Linux platform with the self-service ability to entitle up to 25 physical, virtual or cloud-based instances per registered user as a member of the Red Hat Developer Program...." Additional details are provided in Red Hat's announcement.
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The openSUSE project is considering how much longer the distribution should support 32-bit ARM-powered devices. With this in mind, the project has asked people who use computers running 32-bit ARM processors to let the project know. "The openSUSE project is seeking community input to determine whether it should continue supporting 32-bit ARM architectures. Maintaining support for legacy platforms is increasingly challenging. The openSUSE team cited limited upstream support and dwindling maintenance resources as key factors behind the potential decision to retire 32-bit ARM (ARMv6 and ARMv7) support. Devices like the Raspberry Pi 1 , Pi Zero, BeagleBone, and other older embedded boards rely on 32-bit ARM. If you're using openSUSE on any of these platforms, the team wants to hear from you. Take the survey at survey.opensuse.org to help the team determine a path for 32-bit ARM architectures."
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Version 24.10 of the Ubuntu distribution reached the end of its supported life this week. Ubuntu 24.10 (and its community editions) received nine months of support and has been discontinued. People still running version 24.10 are advised to upgrade to version 25.04 to continue receiving software and security updates. "Ubuntu announced its 24.10 (Oracular Oriole) release almost 9 months ago, on 10th October 2024 and its support period is now nearing its end. Ubuntu 24.10 will reach end of life on 10th July 2025. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include information or updated packages for Ubuntu 24.10. The supported upgrade path from Ubuntu 24.10 is to Ubuntu 25.04. Instructions and caveats for the upgrade."
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These and other news stories can be found on our Headlines page.
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| Questions and Answers (by Jesse Smith) |
Sharing aliases between computers
Sharing-is-caring asks: My friend has a lot of shell aliases and some of them look really cool. I'd like to import them into my bash, but don't want to lose any of my existing aliases. Is there any way I can do this without manually copying dozens of the aliases I want?
DistroWatch answers: Yes, you can do this, and with relatively little effort. Let's take the process one step at a time.
First, from your friend's account, they need to export their list of aliases into a file. Maybe, since they have so many aliases, they already have one dedicated text file with just the aliases in it? If so, they can just send you the file (via e-mail, Signal, KDE Connect, or thumb drive tied to a pigeon). However, if your friend has their aliases scattered around or mixed into their ~/.bashrc file then they should dump their aliases into a new text file for you. They can do this by running the following command:
$ alias > myaliases.txt
Then your friend can send you the myaliases.txt file.
Once you have the myaliases.txt file on your computer, save it in your home directory. Then open your ~/.bashrc file and add the following line to the top of the file:
source ~/myaliases.txt
Why is it important to put this line at the top of your ~/.bashrc file? The contents of your ~/.bashrc file are read and executed when your shell first launches. Usually aliases are placed near the bottom of this file or pulled in from another file using a source command. Aliases declared later in the file replace any aliases with the same name declared earlier in the file.
As an example, let us assume I have the following two lines in my ~/.bashrc file:
alias ls='ls -l'
alias ls='ls -la'
When I run the ls command, the result will be that bash runs the last declared alias for ls. In this case, it will run "ls -la", since that one overwrote the earlier "ls -l".
Why this is important in your case is the aliases you are importing from your friend will be declared at the start of your ~/.bashrc file. Which means, later on, when your own aliases are declared, they will replace any aliases with the same name, overwriting any matches from your friend. This avoids you losing any of your existing aliases while also getting the benefit of any new aliases from your friend. This saves you from manually filtering any matches.
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Additional answers can be found in our Questions and Answers archive.
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| Released Last Week |
Exton Linux 250707 "DebEX"
Arne Exton has announced the release of a new "DebEX" edition of Exton Linux, based on the upcoming release of Debian 13. It uses the KDE Plasma 6.3.5 desktop and comes with the Calamares system installer: "I have made a new extra version of DebEX KDE Plasma live system, efi. It's a pure Debian Sid/Trixie (upcoming Debian 13) system. There are no Ubuntu or Kubuntu elements involved in DebEX. DebEX KDE Plasma Sid uses the KDE Plasma Desktop 6.3.5, the latest version, released 2025-05-06, as the desktop environment. Linux kernel 6.15.3 is used. All included packages have been updated to the latest version as of 2025-07-07. VirtualBox Guest Additions and VMware Tools are pre-installed, which means that you can run DebEX KDE in full screen. I've installed the full KDE Plasma desktop using the command 'sudo apt install task-kde-desktop'. In order to save space I have removed LibreOffice. I have added Calamares 3.3.14 installer framework. Now you can choose language when the installation starts. You can even use Calamares in VirtualBox and VMware on non-efi computers without problems. You can also use the Refracta installer." Here is the full release announcement.
Exton 250707 "DebEX" -- Running the KDE Plasma desktop
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Parrot 6.4
The Parrot team have announced the release of Parrot 6.4, which will likely be the final release of the 6.x series. "We are proud to announce Parrot Security 6.4, the latest release of our security oriented operating system, this new version comes packed with most of the enhancements that our vibrant community asked for, and it features the amazing work of many new contributors. Many tools, like Metasploit, Sliver, Caido and Empire received important updates, the Linux kernel was updated to a more recent version, and the latest LTS version of Firefox was provided with all our privacy oriented patches. Parrot 6.4 will most likely be the last release of the 6.x branch." The release announcement goes on to share some highlights: "All the Debian compatible tools provided by Microsoft are now available for installation via APT from the official Parrot repository, so we officially support Powershell 7.5, .NET runtime and SDKs from version 5 to version 9 and many more! parrot-menu got new desktop entries (like Sliver, Rocket) and several other launchers got updated."
NethServer 8.5
NethServer is a Rocky Linux-based application server specifically designed for small offices and medium enterprises. The project's latest version, 8.5, introduces worker node compatiblity checks, new Samba features, S3 backup support. "Worker node version check - A safety check has been added when a new worker node joins the cluster: its core version is now compared with that of the leader node to ensure compatibility. Before joining the cluster, always update the cluster core and ensure the latest core version is used on new worker nodes. Hetzner S3 backup support - Added support for configuring Hetzner S3 as a custom backup destination. Also fixed a bug that prevented renaming custom S3 backup destinations. Samba domain member role and new features - The core Samba application can now be installed from the Software Center and configured as an Active Directory domain member, providing shared folders in a domain File Server role." Additional details can be found in the project's release notes.
CachyOS 250713
A new release of CachyOS, a highly-optimised, Arch Linux-based distribution with KDE Plasma as the preferred desktop in live mode, is now available for download. The 250713 version enables users to choose a preferred shell at installation time and defaults to the Wayland display server for new Plasma installations. "This is our fifth release this year, and it includes a long-awaited requested feature, improvements for chwd, and more. The user's shell can now be chosen at installation time. In the package list selection, there is now an option to choose between cachyos-fish-config and cachyos-zsh-config. If neither is selected, the system will default to Bash. The default configuration will still be Fish, as it was before. We received some reports that systemd-oomd was killing processes too early in some cases. We have removed its integration to avoid these issues. For Plasma installations, we are now defaulting to Wayland. For graphics configurations that do not support Wayland (e.g., NVIDIA legacy drivers), the plasma-x11-session will be automatically installed to prevent issues. Additionally, fwupd has been added to the Plasma and GNOME environments." Continue to the release announcement for further details.
GParted Live 1.7.0-8
Curtis Gedak has announced the release of GParted Live 1.7.0-8, a new stable release of the project's Debian-based specialist live CD designed for disk partitioning and data rescue tasks. This release release drops support for 32-bit processors due to Debian's decision to no longer pack i386 Linux kernel and it also updates the Linux kernel to version 6.12.37. "The GParted team is pleased to announce a new stable release of GParted Live. This release includes GParted 1.7.0, updated packages and other improvements. Items of note include: only amd64 (x86-64) images are available going forward - as mentioned in the Debian release mailing list, dropping i386 kernel packages, the i386 Linux kernel packages were dropped in our upstream, Debian 'Sid' repository, hence i686/i686-pae GParted Live will be no more in the future; from this release on, only amd64 (x86-64) release will be available; includes GParted 1.7.0; implemented a mechanism to reduce the possibility of random order of block devices in GParted Live; based on the Debian 'Sid' repository as of 2025-07-12; Linux kernel image updated to 6.12.37. X Desktop GUI fails to display with default boot options? Try Other modes of GParted Live - GParted Live (Safe graphics setting, vga-normal)." Here is the complete release announcement.
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Development, unannounced and minor bug-fix releases
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| Torrent Corner |
Weekly Torrents
The table below provides a list of torrents DistroWatch is currently seeding. If you do not have a bittorrent client capable of handling the linked files, we suggest installing either the Transmission or KTorrent bittorrent clients.
Archives of our previously seeded torrents may be found in our Torrent Archive. We also maintain a Torrents RSS feed for people who wish to have open source torrents delivered to them. To share your own open source torrents of Linux and BSD projects, please visit our Upload Torrents page.
Torrent Corner statistics:
- Total torrents seeded: 3,237
- Total data uploaded: 47.8TB
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| Upcoming Releases and Announcements |
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Summary of expected upcoming releases
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| Opinion Poll (by Jesse Smith) |
How many aliases does your shell know?
Many of us use command line shell aliases to act as shortcuts or bookmarks. An alias is basically a short version of a command, a word or series of characters the shell recognises and will expand into a longer command. This saves on the amount of typing a person needs to perform and reduces the number of command line flags the user needs to remember.
Most distributions provide some aliases with their default shell, often to provide shortcuts for performing software updates. You can check to see which aliases are recognised by your shell by running the command "alias". To get a count of the number of aliases your shell knows, run the command "alias | wc -l".
You can see the results of our previous poll on what we should work on next in our previous edition. All previous poll results can be found in our poll archives.
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How many aliases does your shell know?
| 0: | 296 (30%) |
| 1-5: | 248 (25%) |
| 6-10: | 158 (16%) |
| 11-15: | 69 (7%) |
| 16-20: | 38 (4%) |
| 21-25: | 36 (4%) |
| 26+: | 145 (15%) |
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| Website News |
Removing old podcasts
The DistroWatch Weekly podcast was a feature we ran for a number of years, voiced by a few volunteer contributors, most recently Bruce Patterson. We have not run the podcast for a while, but we have continued to keep the podcast archive, and links to it, alive. The podcast links were posted at the top of each Weekly newsletter.
As of this month we have not had anyone recording a podcast for three years and the old audio recordings are taking up space we would like to use for other elements of the website. We will be cleaning out the old podcast archive on August 2nd. If you have an old podcast you'd like to find and keep, this would be the time to download it for future listening.
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New distributions added to database
arcOS
arcOS, which stands for "Amateur Radio Community Operating System", is a specialist Linux distribution based on Linux Mint. It focuses on standardised digital communication needs, commonly used for both casual and emergency communications. It is a portable system that can be booted from any computer's USB device and used immediately with Digirig Mobile, a digital modes interface for radio communications.
arcOS 22.1.0706 -- Running the Cinnamon desktop
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Macaroni OS
Macaroni OS, a Linux distribution born as an incubation project under the source-based Funtoo Linux umbrella, develops a range of binary Linux operating systems for desktops, servers and containers.
TeaLinux
TeaLinux is an Indonesian Linux distribution based on Arch Linux. It is developed by Dinus Open Source Community (DOSCOM) from Dian Nuswantoro University in Semarang, Central Java. It was started in 2009 (when the distribution was based on Ubuntu). TeaLinux, which is available in COSMIC and KDE Plasma desktop variants, includes a custom system installer called "Tea-Install". The distribution is crafted with a strong focus on programming and development needs and with a clean and efficient environment for developers.
TeaLinux 2025.06.16 -- Running the COSMIC desktop
(full image size: 1.8MB, resolution: 2560x1600 pixels)
Vipnix LiveCD
Vipnix LiveCD is a portable Linux distribution built on the legacy of Gentoo Linux, Funtoo and Macaroni OS. It combines Gentoo's source-based optimization, Funtoo's innovative tools and Macaroni OS's modern, container-friendly approach. Vipnix integrates the lightweight LXQt desktop environment and the educational XLibre X11 server into a live operating system designed for enthusiasts, professionals and system recovery tasks. It is developed by Vipnix, a Brazilian IT solutions company specialising in customised infrastructure, cybersecurity, data protection and biotechnology.
Ximper Linux
Ximper Linux is a Russian, rolling-release distribution based on ALT Linux's development branch called "Sisyphus". The project develops a custom package manager called EPM which enables installing and removing individual software or upgrading the entire distribution with one command. It also includes PortProton, a tool designed to help users run Windows games on Linux systems. Ximper Linux provides a set of live images, with GNOME or Hyprland, and with a flexible system installer that can be used to build any installation scenario, from a minimal system to a complex workstation with various desktop environments.
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1 • CachyOS (by Frank on 2025-07-14 00:46:50 GMT from United States)
Congratulations to the CachyOS team !! A well deserved 1st position on distrowatch !!!
2 • keylime...? (by Arve Eriksson on 2025-07-14 00:47:39 GMT from Sweden)
Um... I have to ask: If I don't understand why I'd need keylime, do I have a use-case for it?
3 • aliases (by kleenix on 2025-07-14 04:19:11 GMT from New Zealand)
ren used to be a useful rename that had features. Some PFY dev got hold of it and Gnomedevved it to a drooling shadow of the command. Fortunately perl-rename still exists to preserve renaming for power users. So that got aliased for a while.
4 • CachyOS (by tomas on 2025-07-14 05:55:52 GMT from Czechia)
@1
I am not a distrohopper anymore, nevertheless from time to time I try some distro that seems promissing.
CachyOS was one of those "taste and try".
My impressions were mixed, but after the last update that did not succeed because of nvidia, that I do not have on my system, I erased it.
The 1st position is a page hit, not the distro's rating and I wonder why it is there (before it was EndeavourOS having a page hit that was in my opinion not deserved).
5 • Wayland (by Guido on 2025-07-14 06:55:38 GMT from Philippines)
"X11 is still the most optimal choice, performance wise, to say nothing of the compositing off option, which blows the rest out of the water. Plasma's Wayland implementation is better than GNOME's, it seems..."
That is one reason I will stay as long as possible with the good old X-Server, even if that code is not so clean or light.
6 • Wayland (by bitworriednow on 2025-07-14 07:28:50 GMT from Poland)
Wayland is not a well-thought and developed solution. It's a hastily made attempt to solidify corporate grip by hands of Red Hat and GNOME on FOSS and so far that works for them pretty well. They're following Google's mo - dominate by shady tactics and becoming those who dictate what standards are giving no place for alternatives.
7 • It's aeon, not Areon. (by Darek on 2025-07-14 08:53:02 GMT from Sweden)
I don't know what you tried to install, but aeon has a graphical installer, and while it shares heritage with microos it is quite a different beast.
8 • aliases (by Jake on 2025-07-14 09:33:55 GMT from United States)
Zero aliases as I use GUI's not the command line.
9 • No Wifi on RefreshOS (by joncr on 2025-07-14 10:25:35 GMT from United States)
I have a two-year old Dell XPS with Intel wifi that Debian 12 doesn't know is there. Pretty sure that's why you had no wifi in RefreshOS.
I constantly see Debian recommended with no mention of the fact that if someone's hardware was made after Debian's release date, there's a decent chance something won't work.
10 • TeaLinux (by Dave Postles on 2025-07-14 10:25:48 GMT from United Kingdom)
Looks very interesting, but no evident checksum, it seems.
11 • Poll aliases (by Always_curious_about_FOSS on 2025-07-14 07:39:18 GMT from Germany)
The vast majority of distros have at least one predefined alias:
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
Are there some Distros without any predefined aliases?
Are these many participants in the poll who voted for zero aliases in their shell using a Distro without any predefined aliases or was their train of thought:
„I don‘t konw it, I don‘t have any“.
12 • Kalpa, Aeon review, refresh WiFi (by El Guapo on 2025-07-14 11:29:14 GMT from United States)
I've been running a Kalpa VM (QEMU) for a few months. it installed and ran without issues. Added some software from repos and some flatpaks. No problems. However, I only run ti once in a while, and It had been off for at least two or three months. Booted it after reading the review and did a manual update (transactional-update dup). As noted in the review, the desktop will not load in the latest snapshot. Rolled back and it's all fine again. Don't see a problem with documentation.
As for Aeon (Not Areon), I have no idea where Jesse got an ISO, since all I find is a compressed raw image (.raw.xz). Kind of a pain to install on a VM. Aeon and Kalpa are on different tracks. Aeon is a release candidate and Kalpa is still alpha. Guess they are in no hurry with either of them.
I also have Bluefin on a VM to compare. I like these immutable distros, but will not install as my main systems until wither they play better with others or I no longer want to multi-boot.
On RefreshOS: I still have the iwlwifi firmware on a flash drive, just in case I decide to install Debian. Otherwise, Intel WiFi does not work. I suspect the RefreshOS devs forgot to add it.
13 • Review ISO (by Jesse on 2025-07-14 11:33:43 GMT from Canada)
@12: " I have no idea where Jesse got an ISO, since all I find is a compressed raw image (.raw.xz)."
I linked directly to the download page in my review.
14 • X11 (by Tim on 2025-07-14 13:21:56 GMT from United States)
I continue to run Arch Linux with the Awesome window manager under X11. I will hang on to this as long as it is available. When it is no longer supported, I will be flailing for an alternative.
15 • Aliases (by Friar Tux on 2025-07-14 13:22:17 GMT from Canada)
@11 (Always Curious) How about, I, personally, don't use aliases whether my distro comes with any, or not. I don't use the terminal so I really don't know what is in there. At 73, I have "fat finger syndrome" so I make typing errors. A friend of mine, who loves his terminal, also has fat finger syndrome and has literally killed his OS many times. I tend to learn from other people's mistakes (wisdom that comes with age, I think).
16 • Aliases (by Robert on 2025-07-14 13:48:23 GMT from United States)
I put aliases in my shell for cp and mv to cp/mv -i to ask before overwriting. And most of the time I still just type in the switches manually.
AFAIK Arch doesn't come with any aliases preconfigured.
17 • Aliases (by Trinidad Cruz on 2025-07-14 14:19:35 GMT from United States)
I use SSH constantly for many connections, often to start graphical servers like x11vnc and wayvnc on headless or dp emulated boxes. This allows me to run detailed system specific scripts from an SSH terminal with simple aliases and not have to remember or save them on my main box.
TC
18 • @13, Jesse • Review ISO (by El Guapo on 2025-07-14 14:31:05 GMT from United States)
Jesse, the link you provided goes to this page: https://aeondesktop.github.io/
Clicking on "Download" starts downloading a raw image. There are no choices. Clicking on "Install Guide" you get these instructions: "After downloading the image you need to write it to a USB Stick that is at least 16GB in size. If possible, we recommend Larger USB 3.0 Sticks to benefit from our Installers ability to backup/restore user accounts from existing installations" No ISOs are available. I had installed from the extracted image to KVM some months ago, but deleted it and kept Kalpa. MicroOS, Kalpa and Aeon have diverged. MicroOS ISO is now only the base system and container runtime environment. AEON is going I don't know exactly where, and Kalpa is doing pretty much what Kinoite does.
For anyone using Kalpa and having this problem of not booting to the desktop, it was caused by a developer's mistake. He offers a fix. I tried it and it works: `sudo systemctl disable display-manager-legacy.service` `sudo systemctl enable --now sddm.service`
https://fosstodon.org/@kalpa/114683443617487630
19 • Wayland Takeover (by Eugene V Debs on 2025-07-14 14:31:29 GMT from United States)
I didn't like Red Hat from the beginning, and I like them even less since IBM bought them. I remember how everyone fell in love with IBM during the SCO troubles, but I knew how that was going to turn out.
I'm not opposed to corporate contributions to Linux (although maybe I should be). I am opposed to this "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" approach companies are taking to slowly turn FOSS proprietary. Red Hat now has their greasy tentacles throughout Linux, and have recently violated the GPL.
If Arch wasn't such a hassle, I'd run Artix. Maybe Devuan can become the Artix of the Debian world.
20 • Aeon ISO (by Jesse on 2025-07-14 14:39:14 GMT from Canada)
@18: "Jesse, the link you provided goes to this page: https://aeondesktop.github.io/
Clicking on "Download" starts downloading a raw image. There are no choices. Clicking on "Install Guide" you get these instructions: "After downloading the image you need to write it to a USB Stick that is at least 16GB in size. If possible, we recommend Larger USB 3.0 Sticks to benefit from our Installers ability to backup/restore user accounts from existing installations" No ISOs are available."
If you explore the website beyond the top half of the first page, you will find the Aeon repository includes several download options, including iSO files: https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/appliances/iso/
21 • CatchyOS PHR (by Slappy McGee on 2025-07-14 15:24:49 GMT from United States)
@1 Well Frank.. lol... Over the years it dawned on me at some point that this fine DW website's Page Hit Ranking is VERY useful to know what visitors here are clicking on that list.
And that's it. It's not about downloads or usage or even liking a distro; it's just about what they clicked, and of course until the AI tech gets to the Mind Reading point, we'll have little idea as to exactly WHY visitors here click this or that distro on the list.
22 • @20, Jesse • Aeon ISO (by El Guapo on 2025-07-14 15:26:35 GMT from United States)
Well, color me blind then, because I cannot see any links to downloads other than the one I mentioned either at top, middle or bottom of the aeondesktop.github page. The link you now provide to "tumbleweed/appliances" I had come across before in a Reddit forum. I have tried some of the offerings like the agama installer ISOs, but I have not seen any ISOs offering an Aeon installer. Time to rest my old eyes.
23 • Aliases (by vmclark on 2025-07-14 15:41:35 GMT from United States)
As stated in the '.bashrc:
# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.
All my aliases are in a file name ~.bash_aliases.
24 • OpenSuse agama installer (by mircea on 2025-07-14 16:38:21 GMT from Moldova)
I do think that suse folks are dispersing their forces,
they have livecd classic installer which installs:
- leap
- aeon leap
- kalpa leap
- microos leap
(every options installs just fine)
they have livecd tumbleweed classic installer which installs:
- rolling editing
- aeon rolling edition
- kalpa rolling edition
- microos rolling edition
(every options installs just fine)
AND they have new agama installing (with limited disk partitioning) which installs:
- leap/rolling
- aeon leap/rolling
- kalpa leap/rolling
- microos leap/rolling
(every options installs just fine)
AND they have limited standalone microos/aeon/kalpa cds which simply suck
I had the same experience like Jesse with all of them :), they never work after I install them....
It is very complicated with suse....
25 • about suse philosophy (by mircea on 2025-07-14 16:50:27 GMT from Moldova)
suse has a universal installer bundled into OpenSuse Leap/OpenSuse tumbleweed
by default it installs the desktop edition, but if you click on show packages button
it will show you another options,
then if you will deselect the desktop(gnome, kde, whatever)
and select aeon or microos or kalpa
it then will install the specified version of opensuse
IT IS cofusing, that's why I think they are doing their new agama installer, which gives you choices from beginning
https://agama-project.github.io/
26 • Wayland (by Scooter on 2025-07-14 17:19:59 GMT from United States)
I had major issues with Wayland on the latest Fedora. Waking to black screen, you know the drill. Mine's an AMD 7700x using integrated graphics. Doing something stupid like surfing YouTube with the MS Edge Flatpak often shatters my Wayland session into a thousand goofy triangles of crap.
So far the Wayland experience on KaOS and Garuda with Plasma is very good. X11 is my choice when using most anything else.
Sure, Wayland has cool animations and slick doo-dads, but Gnome stumbles a bit compared to Plasma here. I'm hoping to see good stuff from the XLibre folks, and better efficiency from Wayland soon.
27 • New distros to the list (by dkmillares on 2025-07-14 18:48:46 GMT from Brazil)
Nice to see Vipnix and Macaroni added to the distro list!
28 • Artix and SystemD free distros (by Mykel Wayne on 2025-07-14 19:39:27 GMT from United States)
I don't understand why people have problems with Artix or Arch based distributions. The setup on Artix is graphical and they offer a variety of desktop versions. Perhaps the problem is with the community editions. I have had a few issues with them. I use the latest desktop oriented install images and Artix has functioned quite well.
There is some learning curve with Artix, but I have used it regularly on my PC and laptop for many years. Surprisingly (or not) it is one of the few distros that installs on both of my machines. I try to avoid systemd versions as much as possible because of security issues, excessive memory usage and all the changes it makes to the OS. That's just me, but there is a decently sized user base with Artix. antiX, Devuan and a few others provide a Linux distro that is more Unix oriented. Artix even has a test image using the XLibre fork which hopefully will help users like myself that prefer an X windows system.
29 • Also... (by Mykel Wayne on 2025-07-14 21:04:23 GMT from United States)
I forgot to mention that one of the first steps I take is the configuration of PacMan. I set it up so that I get all of the useful software. Skipping this step could cause problems with updates and new apps. The other step I take is the installation YaY. I find it easier to use especially when searching for some app that you read about or heard from a friend or coworker. It is however a terminal based program, but I like it.
30 • Wayland (by Mario on 2025-07-14 21:27:02 GMT from Italy)
Benchmarks are not so important. Wayland is the protocol of the near future. X11 has many limitations, and few intend to continue developing it. Legacy X11 support should be maintained, however, to allow all desktop environments to adapt to the new reality.
31 • Wayland @33 (by Keith S on 2025-07-14 22:29:33 GMT from United States)
"Benchmarks are not so important. Wayland is the protocol of the near future. X11 has many limitations, and few intend to continue developing it. Legacy X11 support should be maintained, however, to allow all desktop environments to adapt to the new reality."
I ask this question a lot but never get any answer beyond "X runs as root so it's a security issue!" When I ask where the reports of systems being hacked through the X server . . . crickets.
So what are the limitations of X11? What doesn't it do that it should do? Personally, all I need it to do is translate from the system to the screen. It has been doing that pretty successfully for 30 years. What further development does it need beyond updates to new binary blobs from Nvidia and AMD?
32 • Running X11 (by Jesse on 2025-07-14 22:50:30 GMT from Canada)
@31: "I ask this question a lot but never get any answer beyond "X runs as root so it's a security issue!" When I ask where the reports of systems being hacked through the X server . . . crickets."
X.Org doesn't need to be run as root. Anyone who claims that's a serious argument against running X.Org isn't familiar with the technology: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg
It is true that X.Org can be vulnerable to some attacks. I've personally seen it happen. But only on really old versions of X.Org and only when it was running as root. A guy I went to college with used to do a demo of taking over other people's X11 sessions remotely to show how it could be done.
33 • Wayland / X11 (by Keith S on 2025-07-14 23:15:47 GMT from United States)
Thank you for the reply, Jesse. So, (anyone), is there any real deficiency in X11 that Wayland fixes, or is it just a new way of doing the same thing being pushed by certain people for whatever reason? I mean, I haven't even heard an argument that Wayland makes things easier or better or faster in some ways, such as was and is made for systemd.
34 • Wayland (by Jesse on 2025-07-14 23:18:48 GMT from Canada)
@33: "? I mean, I haven't even heard an argument that Wayland makes things easier or better or faster in some ways"
There are a few things, though they tend to be in quite specific situations. For example, setting different refresh rates on multiple monitors. Or High Dynamic Range (HDR) being implemented in Blender (https://www.osnews.com/story/142777/blender-5-0-to-introduce-hdr-support-for-wayland-on-linux-but-not-for-windows/)
For most users in most situations, you probably won't notice any difference between using one and the other.
35 • RefreshOS 2.5 (by KleinerFerkel on 2025-07-15 05:47:47 GMT from Australia)
RefreshOS 2.5 spin
now with calamares installer, icons and wallpaper. the end.
amazing.
truly this is the pinnacle of FOSS innovation.
36 • Totally agree about openSUSE MicroOS (by AlexZ on 2025-07-14 23:49:11 GMT from United States)
I ran MicroOS in a VM for several months. At some point the automatic update broke. There was some conflict that the updater wasn't able to resolve, and because the autoupdate happens without any user interaction or notification, the system sat without updates for a while. Luckily I noticed that and fixed it manually. Bun then after a while, after another update the system wouldn't boot anymore. I could have reverted to a previous snapshot, but I decided it wasn't worth it. I run Tumbleweed on another machine and it didn't have any of those problems.
There is no point of having MicroOS/Aeon, since Tumbleweed on btrfs already has snapshots, it's very reliable and it's used by way more people. I don't think anybody actually uses MicroOS/Aeon. Moreover they've been in beta/RC state forever.
37 • Wayland + @34 (by grindstone on 2025-07-15 02:17:10 GMT from United States)
It's just...the same arguments about software for at least the last 40 years. "It's gonna be great!" but it's fatter & slower and the miracles of bug-reductions expected from reuse / languages / blah remain vacuous promises. Yes, the world moves, but now staggering regressions are acceptable norms. I'm with Dedo--just don't kill what does function. People are indeed actively maintaining Xorg (for which I am sincerely grateful), but deprecating it unilaterally torpedoes more users than ever respond to the lists. The behavior of the leaders of the two potential alternative projects leaves enough room for improvement that the future of the projects might be questionable.
38 • CachyOS (by RetiredIT on 2025-07-15 12:51:02 GMT from United States)
I saw the same thing happen with EndeavourOS in the past where it came out of nowhere and climbed to the #1 spot in record time. It now sits at #4. Personally I do not care for Cachy's KDE/Plasma desktop. It has so many options that it's overkill. I have used and will continue to use reliable GNOME2 / MATE which I have used since 2006.
The position on DW tells nothing about the reliability of the distro itself, only how many people click on it. Linux Mint has stood the test of time since 2006. Will Cachy still be around in 2041? Think about it!
39 • OpenSUSE then and now (by Microlinux on 2025-07-15 13:21:23 GMT from France)
OpenSUSE has been a fine distribution for quite a few decades. These last few years it looks like it has been improved to death by a toxic team of tone-deaf hardcore geeks who successfully replaced tried and tested components by half-baked technology previews. I've been running Leap for quite some time, but decided to jump ship and move to a mix of Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux.
40 bull; RefreshOS 2.5 (by bert on 2025-07-15 16:47:09 GMT from Brazil)
With respect to internet connection, I had better luck than Jesse and the system could detect my wireless card and make ethernet and wifi connections.
One thing that I truly disliked about this operating system though, was the application menu with its imitation of the Windoze model and the complete lack of software categories; this last thing really put me off.
41 • Aliases (by Simon on 2025-07-16 09:57:19 GMT from New Zealand)
Only 4 aliases... but I've replaced a few more standard commands (like df) in /usr/local/bin, when the changes are too complex for a tidy alias (e.g. my df colour codes by drive type and so on). I guess if I were a slow typist I'd have created a few more as well.
I'm amazed that so many people have zero aliases. At the very least, ls is arguably the most common command, used many times in every session, and is horrible without the --color option... I would have thought everyone would have at least alias ls='ls --color', if nothing else.
42 • @41 Simon: (by dragonmouth on 2025-07-16 10:49:57 GMT from United States)
My distro, PCLinuxOS, has aliases but I use CLI so rarely that I never bothered to learn them. It is easier for me to use the command directly than to try to remember the alias. If I have to look up a particular alias, I might as well look up the command itself. I am sure that there many other Linux users that feel like me.
43 • Wayland (by JeffC on 2025-07-16 15:40:51 GMT from United States)
Wayland is the perpetual coming thing.
It was the reason for bugs in X11 being closed as WONTFIX for most of the last twenty years, even before the first release.
All that hype and it is still outperformed by quote obsolete unquote technology.
Distros that drop X11 before Wayland and the supporting systems are completely ready deserve to lose their users.
44 • Shell Aliases (by ~hellfire103 on 2025-07-16 16:12:06 GMT from United Kingdom)
Here's what's at the end of my .yashrc:
alias xit=exit
alias eit=exit
alias ext=exit
alias exi=exit
alias eix=exit
alias texit=exit
alias exti=exit
alias eixt=exit
alias eexit=exit
alias exot=exit
alias please=sudo
45 • new distros added (by oldmanseph on 2025-07-16 17:36:32 GMT from United States)
Try to spin up the MacaroniOS iso yesterday, but it wouldn't fully boot from Ventoy. Will have to try in a VM.
46 • @33 Wayland / X11 (by Keith S. ...) (by R. Cain on 2025-07-16 23:31:04 GMT from United States)
The questions / observations in that post---
"...[1] is there any real deficiency in X11 that Wayland fixes, or [2] is it just a new way of doing the same thing being pushed by certain people for whatever reason? ...[3] I haven't even heard an argument that Wayland makes things easier or better or faster in some ways,"
[1] No; none whatever. Wayland's developers have had 17 years to address X11's deficiencies. Check with them.
[2] Yes. 'New' is the keyword here, which is its only reason for existence. It's part of the "If it ain't new, it ain't no good" mindset which is crippling all of Linux.
[3] You won't. Quite to the contrary, it is suggested that you read the following 'Dedoimedo' articles wherein he takes a good, hard, objective, look--- __WITH DATA__--- at X11 vs. Wayland...
"Wayland Fedora Gnome vs KDE neon Plasma, plus X11 data!"
Updated: July 9, 2025
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wayland-fedora-gnome-kde-neon-amd-graphics-benchmark.html
"Wayland vs X11 on an Nvidia hybrid graphics laptop"
Updated: July 7, 2025
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wayland-vs-x11-performance-nvidia-graphics.html
"Long live Xorg, I mean Xlibre!"
Updated: June 13, 2025
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/xlibre.html
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just a few quotations pulled at random from these articles----
“...Dedo, why do you hate Wayland?
Let's answer this question, as it ought to come up. After all, in the Linux space, ad hominem is often a more powerful way of deflecting resistance than debating technological merits of software. And the answer is simple:
I do not hate Wayland. I have no personal beef with it. I don't really care. I'm not a developer. I am not bothered by software. It's a means to an end.
What I don't like is ANY, I repeat __ANY__ SOFTWARE SOLUTION THAT CHAMPIONS MEDIOCRITY...”
“...On a functional level, this is a classic Microsoft Windows 11 TPM move. Just think about it. The only way to get distros to use Wayland seems to be by deliberately killing off old components. Forcing users to run beta-quality nonsense that still can't do tons of vital stuff that the old thing can. After 15 years!..."
"...The only way for Wayland to come first in a race is to disqualify all the other opponents? Mediocrity in its supreme form...”
"...Wayland is simply the wrong solution. If somehow, magically, it fixes all its problems tomorrow, then great, fantastic, thumbs up, I'm all for it. Only it won't, and it can't. And thus, as a threat to legitimate end user needs and important desktop functionality, it shouldn't be promoted or adopted. Not until it at least reaches functional parity with X11 (which it can't). BUT EVEN THEN, IT OUGHT TO SURPASS IT [ed: highlighting added], otherwise, what's the point of the last fifteen years?...”
47 • OpenUSELESS (by MattE on 2025-07-17 04:39:26 GMT from United States)
Every time I try an OpenSUSE distro, I get the impression that their idea of security is more important than usability.
CatchyOS: Isn't the ranking system more of a curiosity rating more than anything? I wonder if this has caused CatchyOS downloads to spike in the last few weeks? There needs to be a "DistroHoppers.com" alias to DistroWatch.com. I believe it's available. Maybe even "DistroHopaholics.com". Nonetheless DistroWatch is my favorite website that I visit every day and I am glad the look and feel of DistroWatch.com hasn't changed to follow hipster web design guidelines. I enjoy the focus on content over interface fluff and input from lots of interesting users.
48 • Fedora, wayland and more (by Dave on 2025-07-17 06:08:08 GMT from Australia)
I see a lot of people go on about Redhat, and therefore decisions by Fedora. Things like disabling x11, considering dropping 32 bit etc.
My understanding has always been, Fedora is where they try and do everything the "modern" way and they adopt things (or try hard to) very quickly. They also have a 6 month upgrade cycle and pretty recent packages. And I like that they do this because forcing these choices pushes development along.
This is what you're signing up for by running Fedora. If that's not your thing, that's fine, run Debian or something else. I don't get why Fedora users complain that Fedora behaves in Fedora ways.
It's like Arch users complaining that the packages are too bleeding edge, or Parabola users complaining about the lack of non-free software. or Gentoo users about needing to compile software. Hello, that's why they exist.
49 • @14 X11 (by Chris on 2025-07-18 09:23:51 GMT from Austria)
Xorg will not disappear so fast, and even then you might want to look at Artix, which already provides packages for the XLibre fork, so "legacy" WMs and DEs are safe.
50 • Catchy or should it be called flashy (by Hank on 2025-07-18 09:30:07 GMT from Germany)
New toy of the influencers, flashy, memory cpu and gpu hog.
Fashionable but not very usable, for performance you need very potent hardware,
aka. it is very inefficient and expensive to run. My power consumption check proved that fast.
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