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1 • Next weeks topic idea ... How firefox derrivatives stack against each other? (by AT on 2025-03-10 00:57:42 GMT from Germany)
Since realizing that bad decisions and greed as plagued Mozilla and maybe its time to leave firefox behind, I have been thoroughly testing different firefox forks in the meantime, and I have found some great ones. Librewolf and Waterfox are already popular. I came across Floorp and Zen, both of which are breath of fresh air, And then there is Mercury, which I found the fastest.
Since there are many more, Maybe Distrowatch can move above distros, and compare browsers in the next weekly.
2 • Solus available desktops (by Slappy McGee on 2025-03-10 01:11:04 GMT from United States)
I'm a little surprised that Gnome was a percentage or so AHEAD of XFCE in that little poll query at Mastadon. I would have thought it'd run a close second to Budgie, or be 1st. Perhaps the respondents wanted your impressions of Budgie on that distro as a bit of help in deciding for themselves which to try. I know your remarks helped me shy away from it.
Anyway, I'm glad that distro was reviewed again, as I'm always eager to give indies a try, and I've got it downloading as we speak. Good thorough review (as always), and I'm looking forward to seeing how Solus Plasma does on this Acer Aspire A517.
3 • Budgie Themes (by Guido on 2025-03-10 01:37:38 GMT from Philippines)
The problem is that Budgie uses both GTK 3 and 4 apps. The mixed theme only fits to a certain extent, but this could be changed by using a purely dark one. In Gnome, photo and video apps are always dark, on every distribution. Budgie 11 is supposed to be Qt-based in the future, and then the theme will be less chaotic.
4 • Linux VM on Android, Secure Boot and Firefox (by Vinfall on 2025-03-10 01:43:24 GMT from Hong Kong)
Termux and Termux:X11 exists for a looooong time. The whole point of native support would be bypassing the silly background activity limit Google set (namely PhantomProcessKiller, if you know then you know). If they do not remove it, then it sucks, just like any other Android 12+ device.
In the case of Secure Boot, just don't. It's INSECURE and make the system to NOT BOOT. Every system that attempts to do it, either do it poorly at best (iOS/Android with custom security chip), or worse, open a wide door for attackers (Windows + UEFI and literally every embed device). And you can use Windows 11 w/o UEFI, TPM and Bitlocker perfectly.
Regarding Firefox, it's really not a big deal (in terms of user experience, not spiritual admiration). All you need is a great user.js, custom userChrome.css (userContent.css) and policy-templates. If you find these not enough, add a network filter or outbound firewall. If it's too much work, happy hunting for the next great browser like forever XD (Tor Browser or W3M/Lynx almost works though).
5 • alternate browser (by John on 2025-03-10 01:46:06 GMT from Canada)
A little surprised dillo was not listed. I thought it was rather popular as an alternative. But I guess I was wrong.
6 • Secure Boot (by uz64 on 2025-03-10 02:42:48 GMT from United States)
You're better "fiddling with your BIOS" for a couple minutes to remove all restrictions than leaving it enabled and fiddling with everything for as long as you own your computer trying to get something to work.
7 • Browser (by Friar Tux on 2025-03-10 03:12:13 GMT from Canada)
Funny this poll is coming up now. I'm actually playing with Waterfox as I'm starting to find Firefox is getting a wee bit complicated. Waterfox seems much easier. I tried LibreWolf, but it didn't want to work for me. I don't really like any of the Chrome/Chromium based browsers, though I will use one if there's no other alternative.
8 • favorite browser (by Toran on 2025-03-10 03:34:36 GMT from Belgium)
I have always been a heavy user of Google Chrome and Firefox. Firefox made a few bad decisions this week, and I suppose this great browser will loose informed users.
I try to leave everything of Google, but that is far more difficult due to the simple fact Google is an ecosystem.
Okay, so I hve choosen another alternative which I like really a lot.
My vote goes to ... OPERA. Douze Points!
9 • Solus Project (by BlueIV on 2025-03-10 04:54:31 GMT from United States)
One thing that rubbed me the wrong way about Solus was the way they communicated the dropping of the Mate desktop edition. I don't have a problem with the decision itself but stating that one of the reasons given was that the project was "on life support". While obviously not a large project, that's a cheap shot especially considering 1) Solus itself has been "on life support" at times during its history 2) the replacement, XFCE, isn't much better in that regard (which I don't believe is a real problem for either really). They could have just announced the change without the crotch kick.
10 • Firefox, Chrome and others (by 0323pin on 2025-03-10 05:33:49 GMT from The Netherlands)
The current state regarding web browsers is nothing else than depressing. Everything is a chromium fork or, to a smaller extent, a firefox rebrand. Yes, there's webkitgtk too but seriously, that's another mess.
It would be nice to see real alternatives but, web browsers have become too complex, almost like a full featured OS. When it takes longer to compile the browser then to compile the whole OS were you are running it on, we are in trouble. And this is sadly the point we have reached.
11 • Firefox (by dr.j on 2025-03-10 07:38:58 GMT from Germany)
The problem is not firefox. The problem is the Internet. It is increasingly degenerating into a marketplace where you only see what Google and co. let you see. And if you look at lawnmowers on Amazon, you'll see lawnmower ads on every page you visit for the next three weeks. That's (!) the problem.
So far, I've been using the Tor browser or running my whole system directly behind a Whonix gateway. But that's getting harder and harder. Google doesn't even let you search or you have to click through an armada of captcha. If you use Duckduckgo, it doesn't help much because half of your search results will block you when you go to the site.
12 • A suggestion... (by R. Cain on 2025-03-10 08:17:05 GMT from United States)
Vivaldi.
13 • Dillo (by DaveT on 2025-03-10 08:18:48 GMT from United Kingdom)
@5 Dillo used to be OK and I used it but is sadly out-dated now.
14 • Browsing the Internet (by Felix on 2025-03-10 08:31:47 GMT from Germany)
@11 what do you think about startpage.com? I am using it since a couple years when it was still new. I never use a bare firefox. I always install privacy badger, startpage, duckduckgo and ublock origin as extensions.
15 • Pale Moon (by Rob on 2025-03-10 08:58:42 GMT from Australia)
The Firefox was infected when it let g%gle touch its private parts.
Also, see above.
16 • @11 Predatory Google Ads (by picamanic on 2025-03-10 09:18:36 GMT from United Kingdom)
I NEVER see ads. I suggest that you avoid Google search. I use Duckduckgo, but there are others that also behave responsibly. I do not understand the "blocking" you refer to: can you explain?
17 • SeaMonkey? LQ 2021 poll (by Anon on 2025-03-10 09:37:25 GMT from United States)
Anyone have any opinions on SeaMonkey?
Because of my 4GB ram, it's the web page's (heavy) CONTENT that 'bothers' me!
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2021-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-133/browser-of-the-year-4175705713/
https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/17cvjp5/thoughts_on_using_seamonkey_as_a_light_fast_and/
https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=best+linux+browser
https://linuxcommunity.io/t/which-browser-is-best-on-linux/217
Heresy: I like Ai results! (text, not pictures)
Maybe I should use a $1000+ iPhone, rather than $0 Android... naw: I'm a cheapskate ;)
This says Edge uses least memory! https://cloudzy.com/blog/which-browsers-use-the-least-memory/
I remember trying Edge on Linux & it worked fine.
18 • Browsers (by Josh on 2025-03-10 09:43:37 GMT from United States)
I dumped Firefox a while back when amongst a bunch of other WTF decisions they had been making, Mozilla openly admitted that they were selling supposedly 'anonymized' data to advertisers. Looks like I made the right decision.
It has it's flaws, but I've pretty much settled on using Brave. I have also been playing around with Falkon. I tried Librewolf, but it's performance on Youtube wasn't great. And, now they've come out as pushing woke BS. Ugh. Maybe I'll try Mullvad next....
19 • Browsers (by DachshundMan on 2025-03-10 09:53:30 GMT from United Kingdom)
On my Android phone I use the Duckduckgo browser.
On my computer I use Firefox with the Duckduckgo privacy essentials added but the announcement from Mozilla bothered me so I would consider changing if there was a really good replacement. Therefore, I would like to agree with @1, a review of Browsers would be interesting for me.
20 • @12 (by kc1di on 2025-03-10 10:02:20 GMT from United States)
I also like vivaldi just works for me. Fast and quite secure. I have use FF on a regular basis for quite sometime. Have tried all the clones of it but find them lacking in one way or another.
21 • Browser (by eb on 2025-03-10 10:03:10 GMT from France)
Is someone happy with Seamonkey ?
22 • The problem is not... (by z on 2025-03-10 10:29:44 GMT from Italy)
...which alternative to choose; the problem is: what are distro maintainers thinking of doing? Because if I should switch to a different browser and I've no choice but to install that out of official repositories, I might risk of setting up a malware just to avoid being "officially" tracked. That would be a remedy worse than the disease.
23 • @21: (by dragonmouth on 2025-03-10 10:31:56 GMT from United States)
Seamonkey is Firefox with features added.
24 • FIrefox aternative (by Jake on 2025-03-10 10:39:55 GMT from United States)
Well I have experimented with Sea Monkey, Pale Moon (another firefox alternative), Waterfox Classic, Waterfox, and LibreWolf.
Waterfox is my favorite, but I also keep LiberWolf too, which I use when I want an ever higher level of security. I do general browsing with Waterfox for general browsing, but stuff like my IRA, 401K, banking and medical stuff I use LibreWolf. I have webRTC and WebGL shut off on all of them along with all telemetry if it hasn't already been shut down.
25 • Firefox alternative (by Bryan on 2025-03-10 10:53:52 GMT from Germany)
Brave is amazing, the native adblock works amazing and you are not forced into the crypto side of the project.
26 • Browsers (by picamanic on 2025-03-10 11:32:20 GMT from United Kingdom)
Like many here, I have tried most of the Desktop browsers. My Bank only recognises Firefox-proper, but now that I have a computer with more than 4gb, I will migrate to Librewolf for general web browsing. I like the idea of ditching the whole Firefox [and Chromium] mess, but Brave and Palemoon are problematic, and browsers based on newer rendering engines [eg Ladybird] are not ready yet.
27 • Google and Chrome (by RetiredIT on 2025-03-10 12:29:41 GMT from United States)
Don't know if anyone here is up to date on tech news. But it appears that Google's sovereignty and monopoly in the search and browser market is coming to an end. A federal court has ruled that Google will have to break up its business and end some of its illegal practices to force people to only use their products. Final rulings will come in April.
https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/google-will-still-have-to-break-up-its-business-the-justice-department-said-150000739.html
28 • Browsers (by Hamurabi on 2025-03-10 12:35:45 GMT from United States)
Luakit, Qutebrowser
29 • Solus and bootloaders... (by thatguy on 2025-03-10 12:50:00 GMT from United States)
I liked the review this week more than usual, especially the honest appraisal of Budgie's (and ultimately Solus's) lack of polish/overlapping settings apps. It's one of those distros I try from time to time, never making enough of an impression to stay. For me what stands out is the distro's grub-unfriendliness.
I have many distros installed, all controlled by grub, used by the vast majority of distros and familiar to most. Solus forces the grub user to chainload or use their computer's setup or boot screen to start, which seems unnecessary. Couldn't there at least be the option to use /boot/efi and grub rather than clr and /boot? Maybe that's not even possible (no expert on the ins and outs of bootloaders beyond basic grub fluency), but it would make things easier for multi-booters like me.
What I do is simply copy the Windows chainload bits from the grub.cfg that gets made by os-prober/grub-mkconfig, changing the UUID if necessary and the path to the .efi file needed to boot Solus. It's not that hard, but poorly documented, and something I have to research each time Solus is installed. Being different is cool and all, but sometimes I think Solus does things JUST to be different.I liked Pardus way better, which is where eopkg and comar originated.
30 • Firefox and alts (by kevs (Linux Mint) on 2025-03-10 09:30:47 GMT from United Kingdom)
My usual browsers are Firefox for sites that demand JavaScript and SeaMonkey for sites that don't. SeaMonkey is derived from the old Netscape suite and is much easier to configure than Firefox because it's done via a text menu. I also turn off images in SeaMonkey so I can concentrate on text, and of course to avoid adverts.
I'm also trying out KDE Konqueror, which I'm hoping may return to its former glory. Dillo is good for evading censor blocks if you don't mind basic layouts.
31 • Weekly Rant (by penguinx86 on 2025-03-10 02:51:47 GMT from United States)
I think it's pretty cool that Garuda Linux offers 9 other desktop environments besides Gnome.
Debian on Android? Why not? I already run the Linux Developers Environment on my Chromebook. It's basicaly a Debian Linux terminal window. If ChromeOS can do it, iwhy not Android? The only problem would be no keyboard or mouse with most Android devices.
Firefox? I'm still using it. I like Firefox because it's Mozilla's Revenge against Microsoft. Microsoft used it's anti-competitive muscle to kill the Netwcape Navigator browser in the Brosser Wars of the late 1990's. Firefox is the successor to Netscape Navigator. So I use Forefox to stick it to Microsoft. But if Firefox starts blocking adult content, then I'll probably switch to Duck Duck Go, Chromium or something else.
32 • Ads, browsers (by Slappy McGee on 2025-03-10 13:06:38 GMT from United States)
I use Firefox and see no ads. @11 I don't get it. Honest, not being argumentative or snarky, I just don't get it about "if you look at lawnmowers on Amazon you'll see lawnmower ads for weeks everywhere else" or some such. Huh?
Ublock Origin beckons. 49 million users as of this morning, about 10 million of them with Firefox and the rest with Chrome.
But I'm from Mars, what do I know.
33 • Concerns about LibreWolf (by Cypher on 2025-03-10 14:42:34 GMT from United States)
I have my concerns about LibreWolf as an alternative to Firefox. The dev team has so far refused to identify themselves. Not knowing who they are, what other projects they're involved in, or other affiliations doesn't make it easy for me to trust them in the short or long term.
34 • False sense of security (by Jesse on 2025-03-10 15:08:21 GMT from Canada)
@33: "The dev team has so far refused to identify themselves. Not knowing who they are, what other projects they're involved in, or other affiliations doesn't make it easy for me to trust them in the short or long term."
It doesn't matter who they are since the code is all open source. It can be audited to confirm they haven't done anything improper.
Knowing who they are or who they associate with does nothing to improve the user's security while compromising the developer's security.
Think about it, if you were a dev taking chunks out of giant company's marketshare and working on popular open source software you knew governments wanted to compromise, would you went to dox yourself?
For that matter, shouldn't you, as a user, feel better knowing the open source developers are anonymous and therefore harder to compromise? Having open code and anonymous developers is the best possible scenario because they aren't pressured/vulnerable and we can audit their work.
35 • Budgie is Caught in the Gnome Theme Quagmire (by joncorbly on 2025-03-10 16:15:18 GMT from United States)
Not sure why the Solus theming is so inconsistent. But, Budgie is built on a Gnome foundation and, at least currently, is caught in the Gnome theming quagmire. Current Gnome apps on Budgie ignore local themes entirely, just as they do everywhere.
The panel and menu default to their own theme unless the user locates and disables that option. Even if you do disable that, the panel and menu may not share the same look as the rest of the desktop. Nemo, often used in Budgie because it lacks its own file manager, is a Cinnamon app that expects to see Cinnamon themes.
Materia, or a clone, is the usual default theme. In my experience, Caja's main windows are always black if the theme is Materia. That is fixable with a tool like dconf-editor. Few will know that. Why does Solus ship Caja with Budgie?
36 • Browser options (by aguador on 2025-03-10 16:48:56 GMT from Spain)
I have been using Vivaldi quite heavily in the last couple of years. Until the PaleMoon folks stepped back, Basilisk browser was my goto. I just recently saw that the project has been taken over by a non-PaleMoon dev and I will be taking another look as it offers a good alternative to Google's blink engine.
37 • Firefox (by Gspin on 2025-03-10 17:08:26 GMT from United Kingdom)
Very disappointed with the actions of Firefox. For a long time they have been the only alternative to Chrome based browsers and have respected privacy. While understandable that they need to find additional funds following the Google case, the deliberately vague wording is dishonest. It is quite clear that they are about to sell your data.
Such is the state of the internet these days, but all of the alternatives are based on Chrome or Firefox. While Librewolf, Waterfox etc can try to strip trackers, they will always be reliant on Firefox. If Firefox fails, or stops being open-source, we will have very little choice and no way to protect privacy at all.
38 • Firefox and the thought police (by Kurt on 2025-03-10 17:30:33 GMT from Australia)
So on one hand Mozilla fires Brendan Eich because he holds opinions than aren't sufficiently "progressive", not that was ever any indication that those opinions would affect how end-users were able to use Firefox.
Now Mozilla supposedly "forbids the access of adult content", which while it isn't good for society in general, it's hard to see how this could possibly be enforced without intrusive "Net Nanny" type controls being built into the browser.
39 • Firefox (by pangelico on 2025-03-10 18:10:19 GMT from Brazil)
While I disagree with the direction Firefox is taking, it is currently the only viable option to avoid Google's monopoly. Without Firefox I believe all forks like Librewolf will disappear as well.
40 • Firefox (by Kondratiev on 2025-03-10 18:55:03 GMT from Italy)
Firefox is not perfect, but compared to the competition it remains the only choice.
41 • Firefox no more (by PurpleCow on 2025-03-10 19:20:01 GMT from United States)
To me, Firefox became Internet Explorer. From now on, after I install a new linux distro that comes with firefox by default, I will use Firefox as I used IE in the past: only to download a different browser and never open it again.
Firefox no longer provides the only feature that made it different to chromium browsers, which is privacy (a higher degree of privacy compared to the competitors, to be more precise). Hence, there's no sense to stick to it and deal with the lack of support from many known applications which work on chromium but not on Firefox.
If the company just wants to make money, why don't they just make a FireChromium for the Ads revenue and the data collection, and leave Firefox as a separate project?
Firefox? Not anymore, thanks.
42 • Garuda xfce (by shawnfromnh on 2025-03-10 20:22:09 GMT from United States)
Saw Garuda yesterday when I was here and downloaded the xfce version to see what the new Rani was all about. INstall went great, fast boot and I'm wondering what the big white rectangle is on my desktop. Apparently it's Rani was not installed right or they just put the background and nothing else on the xfce version since there is no Rani or for that matter no package installer besides the packages after you boot into the desktop for the first time choosing from the list they give you to choose from but there hype about Rani and they mess up the package in the installation, huge flub on the person in charge for not making sure by testing it first before allowing the iso to be uploaded to the garuda website.
43 • Solus + Budgie (by JoeD. on 2025-03-10 22:11:33 GMT from United States)
Been using Solus for well over a year. First with Plasma then with Budgie. It has been *for me* a solid distro, runs without issue. During that time the updates have been painless and apps have not been broken.
Switched to Budgie because it seems to be easier on the eyes with extended use. Either of the desktops work well.
My computer use is for the home, some internet, office and media. Been using some distro or another for 25 years. Many, many thanks to Distrowatch.com for all the info I've gleaned over the years!
44 • Trisquel's privacy-focused fork of Firefox, Abrowser (by Andy Prough on 2025-03-11 02:58:45 GMT from United States)
I use the fully libre Trisquel GNU/Linux distro which comes with its own privacy-focused fork of Firefox called Abrowser.
45 • Browsers (by asymmetros on 2025-03-11 08:04:56 GMT from Greece)
Chrome promoted from day 1 specific ideas of how a browser should be. "Simple" and "clear" layout, less customisation options (save from addons), the idea of having as much space possible for web pages to shown. Most browsers, Firefox included, followed these trends.
So I selected Vivaldi. Though Chrome based is less Chrome like than the likes of Firefox.
For me, privacy, customization, embedded functionality is of high importance
46 • LibreWolf (by Sabezan on 2025-03-11 12:10:30 GMT from United States)
@34 the fact that code is open source doesn't afford any security. How long was the malicious code present in OpenSSH? It wasn't found by code review - it was found because someone noticed their processes were a tad big slower.
Knowing who the project lead is does not equate to doxing them. If you're comfortable using software connected with the Kremlin or CCP, that's fine, but I think the vast majority of people would not be.
47 • @46 (by z on 2025-03-11 12:40:39 GMT from Italy)
xz-utils malware was possibile because hackers hid an encrypted, obfuscated module into source code. _That_ was the problem, not the openly viewable code.
48 • Ungoogled Chromium (by Jonathan Vasquez on 2025-03-11 13:30:10 GMT from United States)
I was a long time Firefox users and I've been putting up with their shenanigans for a while since there weren't any other alternatives and I didn't want to go back to a Chromium based browser (to encourage different types of web engines), however after the recent Mozilla stuff, I lost complete confidence in them and I'm fine supporting Chromium based browsers given the situation. Although my privacy is still important and so I've switched to Ungoogled Chromium. I'm also on FreeBSD so my browser options are more limited than on Linux but I'm pretty happy with Ungoogled Chromium.
49 • OpenSSH and xz (by Jesse on 2025-03-11 13:53:35 GMT from Canada)
@46: "The fact that code is open source doesn't afford any security. How long was the malicious code present in OpenSSH? It wasn't found by code review - it was found because someone noticed their processes were a tad big slower."
That was a lot of misinformation in two sentences.
1. There was no malicious code in OpenSSH. The "slow down" issue you're referring to featured malicious code in the xz library, not OpenSSH.
2. One of the reasons it wasn't spotted earlier was no one was auditing the xz code, it was a one-person project. As soon as someone audited the code, they found the issue. (Yes, they started the audit because of a slowdown, but it was when that version of xz was brand new, and the audit was only possible because of xz's open nature.)
3. Because the audit could happen, due to the open source nature, the problem was found quickly and patched before the xz exploit made it into any of the mainstream Linux distributions.
4. Bugs and potential security bugs are found all the time due to code audits. Even if what you were saying were true about xz, that doesn't negate the thousands of fixes which have been executed because of open source audits. Saying "open source doesn't afford any security" is completely false. You could argue open source doesn't make software invulnerable, but open licenses offer a huge improvement in security over closed source code.
50 • Pale Moon as a Firefox partial-alternative (by Pale Moon advocate on 2025-03-11 15:04:40 GMT from Australia)
re. Linux: i use Pale Moon as a partial-alternative to Firefox,
i also use other browsers including Mercury, IceCat, Thorium, Tor Browser, Ungoogled-Chromium, Basilisk, etc. ...
re. Windows: i mean, Edge & Chrome ain't great, but at least they can download Firefox lol ;P
51 • Why is this browser not available to Linux users? (by R. Cain on 2025-03-12 01:10:45 GMT from United States)
This is, for the most part, a Linux-oriented venue.
My guess is that a lot of people here started out using Firefox (and still do) as their web browser because it has, traditionally, offered a lot privacy, tracking protection, and security via its rich offering of privacy and security 'add-ons', both from Firefox and from others.
There COULD be a new contender, But...
**DuckDuckGo has developed a _web browser_ which has gotten very good reviews for its privacy, tracking protection, and its security**. ( https://duckduckgo.com/
Here's the 'blurb' from DDG's (browser) website:
"Protection. Privacy. Peace of mind. Get our browser on all [BUT...see below] your devices.
"Search and browse with the DuckDuckGo browser for more protection. Unlike Chrome and other browsers, we don't track you."
Here's a review from ExpertBeacon:
"DuckDuckGo: The Privacy-First Browser Linux Users Deserve"
https://expertbeacon.com/duckduckgo-the-privacy-first-browser-linux-users-deserve/
("expertbeacon" jumped the gun somewhat. Linux users do indeed deserve it; we just can't get it!)
Here's the question:
Why is this browser not available for Linux?
DDG provides the DDG Browser *ONLY* for Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android.
Any takers on this one?
52 • DDG Browser (by Slappy McGee on 2025-03-12 01:15:31 GMT from United States)
@51 "..any takers on this one?"
Perhaps because Linux has the (false?) reputation of being more secure than those other OSs?
53 • @51 DDG Browser (by Andy Prough on 2025-03-12 04:22:03 GMT from Switzerland)
>"Why is this browser not available for Linux?
DDG provides the DDG Browser *ONLY* for Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android."
Because the GNU/Linux desktop market is smaller than those other markets, and because GNU/Linux desktop users expect for their browser to have a free software license. So it wouldn't make business sense for DDG to make a non-free licensed browser for a smaller market that wouldn't end up using it to any great extent.
Besides, DDG is probably already the #1 or #2 search engine for GNU/Linux users - DDG doesn't stand to make much more money from search by offering GNU/Linux users a proprietary browser.
54 • Browsers (by rhtoras on 2025-03-12 11:20:49 GMT from Greece)
One of the main reason i use Openbsd along nosystemD linux is security... and browsers couldn't be outside the scope of security. Btw openbsd is the only operating system shipped with ungoogled-chromium and Iridium at the same time. And this says it all. Ungoogled Chromium>Libre wolf.
Now i am typing from Void Linux and Frirefox-ESR but this is far from Ideal. I am ready to jump to Iridium or Waterfox sooner or later. Tha main problem is all browsers depend on two engines. BUT and here is the BUT... there comes Ladybird... a new browser based on an Independent engine which is available on UNIX-like systems such as linux. In 2026 we are waiting the first alpha Version of a very promising project. Till then i am happy with iridium, ungoogled chromium, Librewolf and Waterfox and may
(i say maybe) be the Midori browser. Btw midory was nice till i found out zeitgeist dependency on Artix which made me abandon it although i was able to remove this dependency without Issues.
55 • browsers (by grindstone on 2025-03-12 14:51:01 GMT from United States)
Netsurf where ever possible. Ffox if required for compat.
56 • Waterfox. (by Friar Tux on 2025-03-12 18:36:12 GMT from Canada)
OK, I'm back to say Waterfox was a no-go. (See @7). It doesn't seem to want to keep it's configuration. Each time I open it up, it starts as first time opened and asks me to import the bookmarks and such. So back to Firefox as that works best so far.
57 • Alternate browser (by historyb on 2025-03-12 19:35:51 GMT from United States)
I have tried many browsers now I am trying Zen. I remember when FireFox was good
58 • Browser (by Aziv on 2025-03-13 14:04:10 GMT from Italy)
I use only Firefox, Torbrowser if i need, always LibreDNS and DuckDuckGo.
59 • Solus (by Mike on 2025-03-13 15:07:27 GMT from The Netherlands)
I have used Solus for many years, but stopped doing that a couple of monhs ago. Before that, I had had multiple incidents were my computer (Xeon from 1019 with a Nvidia 1050) simply would not boot anymore.Then there were this issues where wayland and my vidcard did not work well together.
I found the Plasma edition to be unmature, giving errors when trying default KDE functionality. Support from the forum was scarce.
Finally I decided to switch to Linux Mint. All my problems have disappeared. I hope Solus finds its way up again, but for now I will stick with Mint.
60 • Solus (by Slappy McGee on 2025-03-13 19:02:48 GMT from United States)
@59 Yes, "I found the Plasma edition to be unmature, giving errors when trying default KDE functionality. Support from the forum was scarce."
As I mentioned in here several days ago after reading the DW review of Solus, I downloaded the ISO and did a full install right away with the Plasma choice.
I was going to go in to the review area and outline the issues... but decided not to unless I saw others who'd had it a while.
I found it inferior to many distros I use (Rocky, MXLinux, Artix), and as you mention, Plasma was just a soldered-on affair with no feel of a true part of the distro as it is in others.
The forums for Solus seem edgy or something; reminded me of PCLinuxOS years ago (haven't used that one for some time now as a result).
61 • FORUM (by rhtoras on 2025-03-14 09:19:04 GMT from Greece)
I see you mainly use nosystemD. A forum which is quite friendly is the one from Devuan. I like Void too but there is no forum and from time to time i see various people, with good or bad attitude.
62 • @61 - Void forum (by Uncle Slacky on 2025-03-14 11:14:31 GMT from France)
Void's forum is its subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/
63 • Void Forum (by rhtoras on 2025-03-14 22:00:08 GMT from Greece)
@62 Yes i know subreddit, irc and telegram group... but all depend to someone else i.e subreddit to Reddit and so on... but you are right Subreddit is a place to find help...
Btw Salix is a quite friendly forum too...
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