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1 • Deb Light (by Guido on 2024-10-28 01:59:48 GMT from Philippines)
Yet another rather superfluous new distro. Take an existing one, change the theme a bit and slap a new panel on it. And we have a new one. - Why don't the developers try to use Debian as a base? That way DL won't be any lighter than LMDE.
2 • What Makes a Desktop Light? (by BlueIV on 2024-10-28 03:35:02 GMT from United States)
Generally when most people speak of what makes a desktop environment of Linux distribution they generally speak of the amount of ram it uses. I rarely hear users discuss the cpu aspect, whether it requires much cpu power compared to something else. Granted in general these qualities correlate with each other, but not necessarily equally.
Is booting into a desktop and seeing how much ram is used a useful metric to speak of the total experience? I remember in the early days of Linux there was a saying unused memory is wasted memory but that may be regarded as a myth these days(?).
3 • Periodicity (by Arve Eriksson on 2024-10-28 04:17:47 GMT from Sweden)
What arcana is this... Huh. Learn something new every day; Linux experience, never change! Apparently I use Systemd-timers. Does it count if that's all set by the distro, and not something I've configured manually?
4 • crontab (by dr.j on 2024-10-28 08:01:21 GMT from The Netherlands)
of course you can do it this way, but crontab is just a file in a folder (var/spool/cron). You can use cron to copy it automatically to your home-directory or to any destination you want or you create a symlink in your home directory and make sure not to copy the symlink as a symlink. That's it.
5 • Light Linux Distributions / Linux for old hardware (by NULL on 2024-10-28 08:10:16 GMT from Germany)
Linux for old hardware seems an evergreen topic in the Linux community and it always seems to focus on the desktop environment.
IMHO it does not matter that the desktop/distribution uses 100MB or 200MB less compared to the competition, once the first web browser tab is opened.
Therefore I find it very surprising that ZRAM is not the default for this kind of distributions, because for me ZRAM is the switch which makes a desktop usable when running less than 8G of RAM on older hardware.
LXDE/Xfce/random window manager feel a bit more responsive on old hardware compared to Gnome/KDE, but in the they don't make ore break Linux on old hardware.
My personal Linux box is on a Netbook with 4G of RAM running Gnome. Totally unusable w/o ZRAM and working w/o trouble with a descent ZRAM configuration.
6 • Deb Light (by LS650V on 2024-10-28 08:12:17 GMT from United States)
Has the LXDE desktop environment in Deb Light been updated from GTK2 to GTK3? If I had to guess, I would say no.
7 • Deb Light (by Bigun on 2024-10-28 08:42:33 GMT from United Kingdom)
The best Deb Light OS? Simply AntiX!
8 • Statistics (by Romane on 2024-10-28 09:20:34 GMT from Australia)
I always look for the Mark Twain "Thingy"
This weeks sent me back to my College days:
"Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. (Mark Twain)"
Recalling the very first words out of my statistics lecturer's mouth:
"The are lies, damn lies, and statistics"
9 • 8 • Statistics (by James on 2024-10-28 09:50:57 GMT from United States)
"The are lies, damn lies, and statistics"
Along with "figures don't lie, but liars figure".
10 • First Ubuntu experience (by Mark on 2024-10-28 10:36:40 GMT from United Kingdom)
6.06 Dapper Drake. Loved the minimalist interface and the stability. Everything just worked right, unusual for a Linux distro at the time, although it was necessary to install ndiswrapper for the wifi driver. The colour scheme took a bit of getting used to. Had to learn to embrace those earth tones.
11 • @4 crontab (by Delasse on 2024-10-28 11:01:03 GMT from Czechia)
I don't know how your system works, but on my Linux Mint 22 /var/spool/cron/crontabs is `drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab`, that is no regular user has access to it. I can't even `cat` my own crontab file there (without sudo, that is). Besides, putting `crontab -l` into a backup script isn't any more complicated than giving it a file (in this case the link that you propose) under your $HOME to be backed up.
12 • LXDE (by Nicola on 2024-10-28 11:27:49 GMT from Italy)
The problem with LXDE is that - with the development of LXQt towards Wayland support - it is destined for death. The wiki is already gone, and that is not a good sign. It should be noted that the speed of LXDE is also due to the use of GTK2: GTK3 and GTK4 were a real disaster.
13 • My intro to Ubuntu (by mcellius on 2024-10-28 03:15:41 GMT from United States)
I first encountered Ubuntu in 2011, with 11.04, Natty Narwhal. I had been using Windows but was frustrated, not least because I had to reinstall it - again! I finally said, "Okay, time to try Linux," but I really had no idea there were so many distributions. I had never even heard of Ubuntu (somehow the marketing had missed me), but in my research of Linux distros I learned of it, of course. Learning that it was so popular helped me decide: if so many people used it, it must be fairly easy for a newcomer.
I set it up to dual-boot with Windows (yes, I went ahead and reinstalled it), but from the first I really enjoyed Ubuntu. The Unity desktop was new to me, but so what? It was something to learn, as was all of Linux, and I enjoyed that part of it. After a month I found myself rarely booting into Windows anymore, so I uninstalled it - and NEVER regretted that decision!
Over the next several years I did a LOT of distro-hopping, trying everything. I must have installed and tried at one time or another close to 100 distros. (I still sometimes look at new distros or versions, always by installing them in their own partition.) I learned a lot about Linux and although I liked most of them, I always preferred Ubuntu the most. I was disappointed when Ubuntu dropped Unity, but I stayed with Ubuntu and happily still use Ubuntu's modified version of Gnome.
Over the years I set up a small home network (using IPFire, another Linux distro, as a firewall) running three Ubuntu machines, partly just so I could learn more. From the beginning I worked as much from the command line as from the GUI, and still use it a lot. Anyway, I feel comfortable with about any version of Linux, but still find that Ubuntu meets my needs and makes computing enjoyable. For me it has always been solid and reliable, easy to use yet completely configurable for any special needs I have. And I STILL run the latest version, never staying on the latest LTS: right now it's 24.10, and I'll upgrade again when the next version comes out next April: might as well use the latest, I figure.
I don't think Ubuntu is the best distro, but I do think it's the best for me. It works the way I want, and does what I want it - and need it - to do. Is that just because it's the first distro I tried? Well, that was certainly my good fortune, and I've seen no good reason to switch.
14 • DebLight, AnduinOS and Peppermint compared. (by Greg Zeng on 2024-10-28 05:40:22 GMT from Australia)
This week describes the French Debian based system, released for the first time this year. AnduinOS, from China, is clearly in good English language, but Ubuntu-Gnome based, to appear like Windows 11. This second entry is similar to Wubuntu, which is derived another non-English nation.
Peppermint, English based, uses a LXDE derived environment, similar to DebLight, but has been available in mature form since 2011-01-05, thirteen years ago. With Peppermint, my default is Dolphin, instead of Thunar. Mint and its derivatives, like most new releases based on Debian now, try to not provide Synaptic Package Manager. These heavier Linux systems include so much unwanted programs, that I prefer a light system, such as Peppermint, then add my necessary applications.
In Linux however, only PC Linux OS provides Ventoy, as a ready to run application. Generally most Linux operating systems provide very poor BTRFS partition support. So Linux will stay unpopular with the bulk of computer users, unfortunately. Far behind Windows, Apple, and Android, for the moment.
15 • Cron jobs backup (by Jesse on 2024-10-28 11:42:56 GMT from Canada)
@4: "of course you can do it this way, but crontab is just a file in a folder (var/spool/cron). You can use cron to copy it automatically to your home-directory or to any destination you want or you create a symlink in your home directory and make sure not to copy the symlink as a symlink. That's it."
You can do this if you are root. On almost all Linux distributions, regular users do not have read access to the /var/spool/cron/crontabs directory. This is to prevent a user from gaining knowledge about whether other users have crontabs or what might be in them, based on their existence/size.
A symlink to anything in that directory won't be readable.
16 • Re: DebLight OS 1 (by linuxmintusers.de on 2024-10-28 12:37:34 GMT from Germany)
Why not just stick to LXDE versions of LinuxMint provided by german site admins linuxmintusers.de ? They exist in both LM Ubuntu base for 64bit processers and LM Debian base for 32bit and 64bit processers.
17 • Lite Distros (by kc1di on 2024-10-28 12:50:57 GMT from United States)
My light distro of choice is antix. I used to use lxde but it will become dead in the near future. LXqt is ok but not as good as lxde in my opinion. Most importantly enjoy your linux journey!
18 • Linux Migration (by Geo on 2024-10-28 13:02:37 GMT from Canada)
I have now successfully migrated my family from Win 10 to Zorin. Very pleased so far.
19 • Lite Distros (by Name (mandatory) on 2024-10-28 13:15:53 GMT from United States)
@17 Same, my light distro is antiX. I like runit version.
20 • Seeing The Light... (by Friar Tux on 2024-10-28 15:25:07 GMT from Canada)
"Light Distros"... never could figure that one out. For my daily driver I use Mint/Cinnamon. I like the fact that I can have all kinds of convenient (for me) bells and whistles running while I work. I have all kinds of "bloat" (as some call it) on my system and it's still quite snappy and quick. With today's computers/laptops, having them jammed full of useful stuff doesn't cause any real issues. Sure, it slows down the process by a micro-second or two, but really, in the end, things still get done rather quickly. (I like testing out new (to me) apps and programs, so believe me when I say my laptop is STUFFED with all kinds of bloaty goodness.)
21 • My Technical Take On All This (by Otis on 2024-10-28 16:15:51 GMT from United States)
Well, you've successfully advanced a Linux subject matter in the poll and discussion here which leaves my sensibilities nearly completely out of it. I don't know or care about any of it, but of course am glad that enough do so that the inner workings of distros are hashed about and perfected, etc, plus these subjects attract more to the Distrowatch site and that's of course a good thing, big time.
@18 Congratulations!
@The rest of you, huh? :oD
22 • crontab (by dr.j on 2024-10-28 16:26:43 GMT from Germany)
@11 @15
well you guys that is a typical problem with modern Linux distros where the developer do our work and create the system they think it should be and giving rea/write access the way they think it is safe (for whom ever). That is not the arch way.
So, my system has a user crontab with full access to and I use a symbolic link to my home-directory to back it up with my regular backup-job when is changes
23 • DebLight review (by Erik Plovpenning on 2024-10-28 17:53:17 GMT from Denmark)
Good review Jesse.
If the user plans on using a modern web browser, the choice of desktop environment is probably irrelevant. And if people prefer lxde it only takes a few minutes to install, why even create a separate distro for this?
24 • Distro choices (by npaladin2000 on 2024-10-28 18:30:00 GMT from United States)
It just amazes me that a distro like DebLight can get posted on here, though it has no niche, and no real justification. Just a different theme on a derivative of a derivative of a derivative. In the meantime, projects like ChimeraOS and Bazzite, which are having a real impact and actually DO have a niche, sit in waitlist limbo. At least let's see the Universal Blue project get listed, even Fedora Atomic gets lumped under Fedora.
25 • Lite Distro? (by DB on 2024-10-28 18:38:32 GMT from United States)
The other day I decided to put Haiku onto one of my old laptops. I used a small ssd drive and did a normal install . Everything works pretty snappy! Wifi even works now! Then I timed to statrup and shut down times. Startup takes 16 to 18 seconds from the time I push the button till desktop is up and useable. Shutdown took 5 to 6 seconds. The only browser I could get to work well was falkon. And it too wants to crash from time to time, but it's kind of fun to use! So if you get a chance check it out, these people have really put together and interesting and different OS.
26 • Lite Distro? (by Sohl on 2024-10-28 19:21:28 GMT from United States)
@25 Haiku is interesting and super slick. However, about a year or so ago, I could not get it booting cleanly from HD after installation. Booted off USB stick ok though.
If you want light Linux, check out TinyCore Linux. The default graphical install is super light but somewhat ugly by modern standards and has very limited WM features, but other WMs are available. Also very light is Puppy Linux with a nicer desktop environment.
27 • @22 crontab (by Delasse on 2024-10-28 20:37:18 GMT from Czechia)
@22 " that is a typical problem with modern Linux distros where the developer do our work and create the system they think it should be and giving rea/write access the way they think it is safe (for whom ever)"
Funny you should talk about others thinking wrongly what is safe while you implicitly claim superiority with the "Arch way" buzzword. "Least amount of privilege" isn't modern, and it shouldn't be just a slogan. And being able to read/write whatever you want has nothing to do with the "Arch way", but whether you are root or not. :) As Jesse mentioned, regular users directly seeing others' crontabs *is* a potential issue, and there's no reason why any regular users should be able to do it => it should be forbidden. End of story. (And as I said, backing up your own crontab is trivial, or it should be, Dr Archway... :P) Next thing we know, you're trying to convince us that /etc/shadow should be world readable and writable so "Arch powauzerz" can directly change their passwords (because using `passwd` is not the "Arch way" or something...).
I thought people "living the Arch way" are supposed to be knowledgeable, not ignorant...
28 • @16 LinuxMintusers.de 403 Forbidden (by Elcaset on 2024-10-29 07:11:09 GMT from United States)
I'm interested to see if linuxmintusers.de maintains a version of Mint with KDE Plasma. However, the linuxmintusers.de site is inaccessible.
29 • Tried Linux MX because of top ranking.. not impressed (by networkxxiii on 2024-10-29 07:14:46 GMT from Switzerland)
I really wonder how Linux MX made it to the top of the list. I wanted something new after using mint as a main driver for some time. All I can say is that it is not very user friendly, has compatibility issues and was annoying to work with on a daily basis at least for me. So this is a warning. The main annoyance was Xfce continually crashing. And e.g. I want to see a DVD from an external USB Player, I expect no problems here, plug and play, but no, not working out of the box for some obscure reason. I mean the distro *works* but it does not seem polished like e.g. mint is. Sorry to be negative about it but i felt it is necessary to warn others that IMHO, MX does not belong to the top of the list.
30 • @27 crontab (by dr.j on 2024-10-29 07:26:41 GMT from Germany)
One problem nearly everywhere in the web is, that people aren't talking to each other, but just lash out eachother when something doesn't fit into their world or opinion.
If you read my post in detail you will understand that I do not argue against security (so no more words about /etc/shadow, sudoers or similar files), but against the nonsense that I run multi-user security designed by some developers instead of establishing exactly that kind of security that I need in my one-user-environment and which is designed and controlled by me and only by me. And that I can't read my own crontab under the given circumstances (no multi-user notebook) is really crazy. My philosophy of Linux never was of that kind. And a symbolic link has to be made once, a backup must be done everytime you change something. That is not really a smart solution.
31 • @28, 403 verbotten (by Gang of wolfs on 2024-10-29 10:36:01 GMT from Germany)
If you have VPN, try changing IP address to Germany. Works for me.
32 • @29 MX-linux (by Jan on 2024-10-29 11:58:49 GMT from The Netherlands)
Try MX-KDE, I found it performing the best on my old hardware (CPU, but with much memory and SSD). In an installed MX you can additionally set extra features (fine-tune) and install updates from MX-repo-test and Debian-backport. Maybe this helps.
33 • 8.04 was my first Ubuntu - good experience (by AdamB on 2024-10-29 12:01:36 GMT from Australia)
Having previously been happy with KDE 3.5 on OpenSuse (10.3?) umtil it went end-of-life, I tried Ubuntu 8.04 and was very happy with it. Gnome 2 suited my workflow very well.- and Ubuntu had an excellent installer.
When Ubuntu abandoned Gnome 2, I migrated to Linux Mint MATE, and have used MATE on various distributions ever since (Raspberry Pi OS is an exception - and I am tempted to try installing MATE on my RPi 4).
34 • @29 and @32 MX-linux, addition (by Jan on 2024-10-29 12:43:51 GMT from The Netherlands)
I mentioned "fine-tuning", however it is called "Tweaks" in the MX-welcome window.
There is another rather essential advice, from my experience. MX runs fine from a live-usb-Ventoy-stick. However installing from a Ventoy-live-usb-stick goes wrong (in my experience). It gives weird installing problems, and if seemingly good installed, it gives application problems. Install MX from a Rufus-made USB-stick (where nothing else is present).
35 • MX (by Name (mandatory) on 2024-10-29 14:30:51 GMT from United States)
@29 I'm using MX because of excellent tools. MX Snapshot for example, with few mouse clicks you have complete copy of your system, with all apps, passwords, email client, browsers, bookmarks, everything, in installable ISO file.
You can now 'burn' ISO to USB stick and have your copy of system running off that USB stick on any computer, or you can just install it on a different computer and have exact copy. What other distro can do this? And without any knowledge to do it, just few mouse clicks? And this is only one of several very useful tools.
I have never had any problem with crashing or anything like that. Running MX for years. No wonder it is on top.
36 • Lite distros (by grindstone on 2024-10-29 20:00:13 GMT from United States)
+1 to AntiX and DSL which is lighter than even AntiX.
37 • DebLight (by Keith Bainbridge on 2024-10-29 22:03:28 GMT from Australia)
Good morning Jesse
I gave DebLight a quick run in VBox last night.
I'd have to say that is closer to debian stable than LMDE.
1. There is no mention of the Mint repo - where Mint serve newer versions of Chromium, TBird and Firefox; as well as their Cinnamon files (presumably newer than DebStable, as the Mint community also develops Cinnamon).
2. DebLight's version of TBird is 17 behind Mint's TBird. Firefox is 2 versions behind. I couldn't check on Chromium, but Mint provides 130
My experience is that LMDE is more user ready than debian, in that Mint has printer drivers and internal email (exim et al) sorted.
I consider that DebLight would serve their users better by referring them directly the the LMDE section of the Mint forum, rather than the main mint forum page.
Another matter is that LMDE is available with cinnamon only, unless you know of the alternatives from a site which is not obvious at the Mint download site.
Thanks for listening.
Keith
38 • AnduinOS (by embrace, extend, include on 2024-10-30 00:52:48 GMT from United Kingdom)
"AnduinOS is an Ubuntu-based distribution ... which has been themed and styled to resemble Windows 11."
developer is a "Software engineer at Microsoft"; and the OS seems associated with Microsoft Open Source community.
39 • Light distributions for old computers. (by eb on 2024-10-30 08:13:10 GMT from France)
DSL & Antix are effectively good choices : - old distros (2005 & 2010) - excellent window managers (Fluxbox & JWM) - no SystemD. "Have a lot of fun" !:-)
40 • @32 and @35 KDE might solve some problems but MX still needs more polishing IMHO (by networkxxiii on 2024-10-30 08:58:12 GMT from Switzerland)
The MX Installer was fine. I actually was impressed by it. Not so much by the OS though. I usually do not need in-built tools a lot, as I bring with me my own suite of tools. E.g. Clonezilla for secuity/backup, FreeFileSync, Xpad, Guake, Flameshot, owncloud, keepass etc.
There was just too many little details that did not fit my bill and was a tad too much of a hassle. I moreover had to change back to Mint, because Citrix Workspace App was always ailing and failing on MX probably due to bookworm not being supported by it. That was a nogo because I need Citrix to work.
TLDR, Im still taken aback how it can be the top distro. Somethings wrong here at least in my book.
41 • @38 AnduinOS, thanks for the warning. (by networkxxiii on 2024-10-30 09:10:30 GMT from Switzerland)
That is a definitive "hands-off!" for me, thanks ;)
42 • Light distributions (by jazzfelix on 2024-10-30 09:14:28 GMT from Germany)
As the light [is distributed (originally emanates)] from the sun your consciousness emanates from the one source [of all life forms]. (Eckhart Tolle)
43 • Fear of WIndows, Fedora 41 KDE (by El Guapo on 2024-10-30 10:10:16 GMT from Mexico)
@38,Anduinos, by embrace, extend, include- On the one hand, I have no use for distros that look like Windows. On the other hand, you'd think that those who fear or abhor Microsoft so much would be fleeing Linux in droves, considering that the bulk of Linux funding and development is coming from MS and others of the evil empire cohort. That includes Linus' salary, by the way. BSD awaits you, although I believe if the developers at FreeBSD and others were offered a nice fat check and ready manpower, they'd jump at the chance.
Fedora KDE. Fresh after the Kubuntu 24.10 review, I wanted to compare with the new Fedora. Runs quite well, as expected, but at idle it's consuming 2.5 GB of RAM. Given what was experienced in the DW review (1.4 GB), I'm hereby declaring Kubuntu a "light" distro.
44 • @40: (by dragonmouth on 2024-10-30 11:51:26 GMT from United States)
"Somethings wrong here at least in my book. " Did you ever consider that it might be you and your computer? Something you are doing or applications you are running that makes MX such a problem for you? After all, there are thousands of satisfied MX users. They could not have been all bamboozled.
45 • MX Wine (by Jan on 2024-10-30 12:33:54 GMT from The Netherlands)
Additional to my joy about MX-KDE is that it has a Wine installation (from the favourites applications) which actually works (mostly). Only need to place one checkmark, obviously very capable persons made this. Because I found no other distro at which simply installing Wine from their repository gives a working Wine-application. Another distro with a working Wine is Fedora-KDE, at which I needed to install 2 applications: the Wine-application + Wineglass (which pulls in Winetricks),
Wine seems to have a confusing/diffusing problem on giving a functioning icon through which the Windows-application can be started. Very often 2 desktop icons result from a Windows-app-installation, of which (after running Bleachbit) 1 or both do not work and/or gives a very high CPU-load. The Fedora Wine-application seems to be Bleachbit-resistant (but as mentioned, needed an Wine-aid-app). Strangely I even once had made a taskbar widget/icon (directly after installing the Windows-app), which was the only functioning start-up possibility.
Alas the Wine-filemanager (with which you can go to the Windows-executable in Programs-folder) has no option to plop a startup icon to the desktop (why not??). However the standard Linux-filemanger also has sometimes the option to make a desktop-icon disabled (also, why??).
46 • Your book (by Otis on 2024-10-30 19:07:30 GMT from United States)
@40 There's an implication that the DW site is fudging on the PHR of MX at the top, or at least an inference on my part well oiled by your words there:
"TLDR, Im still taken aback how it can be the top distro. Somethings wrong here at least in my book."
Your book may be what's wrong. Or it my be my take on your words, but one thing that certainly wrong is the silliness of having a particular popular distro not fit your situation and then question that distro's popularity. @44 points out something similar about your take.
I settled on MX quite some time ago, and distro hop with other machines, but MX Linux has it all and as to reliability after extreme ease of install and personal tweaks if desired. Thus it's spot so high here and elsewhere.
47 • an alternative to Deb Light (by Simon Wainscott-Plaistowe on 2024-10-30 20:49:38 GMT from New Zealand)
I reckon FunOS hits the spot better than Deb Light. Great if you just want a lightweight OS to run some VMs or whatever. Uses less than 400MB RAM on my workshop box. It's not pure Debian though - based on Ubuntu so can use PPAs if you need them. Snaps & Flatpaks are disabled (simply install either if required).
48 • deblight (by hazardous on 2024-10-31 11:48:26 GMT from United States)
Just tried installing deblight and was stymied at the password part, and was further stymied by guessing the right password root backwards, but was not accepted - bah! But it was cetainly a coloutful start.
49 • Microsoft and Linux (by Otis on 2024-10-31 11:55:54 GMT from United States)
@43 Some see Microsoft's involvement with Linux as more a victory for Linux than for Microsoft. Fighting Linux and open source in general seems to have become futile over time for them.
50 • Linux and Microsoft... (by Friar Tux on 2024-11-01 23:03:52 GMT from Canada)
@49 (Otis) Fear not, Microsoft ain't done yet. The "embrace, extend, extinguish" isn't an overnight thing, not with something as big as Linux. They seem to be right on track assisting Linux with code and software to make things work smoothly/better, even employing some of Linux's prominent people. The other shoe will drop when they decide it's time to "make 'em pay or they can't use our stuff". It will not matter what form of license any of the code is under - if Redhat can do it so can Microsoft. Time will tell.
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• Issue 1104 (2025-01-13): DAT Linux 2.0, Silly things to do with a minimal computer, Budgie prepares Wayland only releases, SteamOS coming to third-party devices, Murena upgrades its base |
• Issue 1103 (2025-01-06): elementary OS 8.0, filtering ads with Pi-hole, Debian testing its installer, Pop!_OS faces delays, Ubuntu Studio upgrades not working, Absolute discontinued |
• Issue 1102 (2024-12-23): Best distros of 2024, changing a process name, Fedora to expand Btrfs support and releases Asahi Remix 41, openSUSE patches out security sandbox and donations from Bottles while ending support for Leap 15.5 |
• Issue 1101 (2024-12-16): GhostBSD 24.10.1, sending attachments from the command line, openSUSE shows off GPU assignment tool, UBports publishes security update, Murena launches its first tablet, Xfce 4.20 released |
• Issue 1100 (2024-12-09): Oreon 9.3, differences in speed, IPFire's new appliance, Fedora Asahi Remix gets new video drivers, openSUSE Leap Micro updated, Redox OS running Redox OS |
• Issue 1099 (2024-12-02): AnduinOS 1.0.1, measuring RAM usage, SUSE continues rebranding efforts, UBports prepares for next major version, Murena offering non-NFC phone |
• Issue 1098 (2024-11-25): Linux Lite 7.2, backing up specific folders, Murena and Fairphone partner in fair trade deal, Arch installer gets new text interface, Ubuntu security tool patched |
• Issue 1097 (2024-11-18): Chimera Linux vs Chimera OS, choosing between AlmaLinux and Debian, Fedora elevates KDE spin to an edition, Fedora previews new installer, KDE testing its own distro, Qubes-style isolation coming to FreeBSD |
• Issue 1096 (2024-11-11): Bazzite 40, Playtron OS Alpha 1, Tucana Linux 3.1, detecting Screen sessions, Redox imports COSMIC software centre, FreeBSD booting on the PinePhone Pro, LXQt supports Wayland window managers |
• Issue 1095 (2024-11-04): Fedora 41 Kinoite, transferring applications between computers, openSUSE Tumbleweed receives multiple upgrades, Ubuntu testing compiler optimizations, Mint partners with Framework |
• Issue 1094 (2024-10-28): DebLight OS 1, backing up crontab, AlmaLinux introduces Litten branch, openSUSE unveils refreshed look, Ubuntu turns 20 |
• Issue 1093 (2024-10-21): Kubuntu 24.10, atomic vs immutable distributions, Debian upgrading Perl packages, UBports adding VoLTE support, Android to gain native GNU/Linux application support |
• Issue 1092 (2024-10-14): FunOS 24.04.1, a home directory inside a file, work starts of openSUSE Leap 16.0, improvements in Haiku, KDE neon upgrades its base |
• Issue 1091 (2024-10-07): Redox OS 0.9.0, Unified package management vs universal package formats, Redox begins RISC-V port, Mint polishes interface, Qubes certifies new laptop |
• Issue 1090 (2024-09-30): Rhino Linux 2024.2, commercial distros with alternative desktops, Valve seeks to improve Wayland performance, HardenedBSD parterns with Protectli, Tails merges with Tor Project, Quantum Leap partners with the FreeBSD Foundation |
• Issue 1089 (2024-09-23): Expirion 6.0, openKylin 2.0, managing configuration files, the future of Linux development, fixing bugs in Haiku, Slackware packages dracut |
• Issue 1088 (2024-09-16): PorteuX 1.6, migrating from Windows 10 to which Linux distro, making NetBSD immutable, AlmaLinux offers hardware certification, Mint updates old APT tools |
• Issue 1087 (2024-09-09): COSMIC desktop, running cron jobs at variable times, UBports highlights new apps, HardenedBSD offers work around for FreeBSD change, Debian considers how to cull old packages, systemd ported to musl |
• Issue 1086 (2024-09-02): Vanilla OS 2, command line tips for simple tasks, FreeBSD receives investment from STF, openSUSE Tumbleweed update can break network connections, Debian refreshes media |
• Issue 1085 (2024-08-26): Nobara 40, OpenMandriva 24.07 "ROME", distros which include source code, FreeBSD publishes quarterly report, Microsoft updates breaks Linux in dual-boot environments |
• Issue 1084 (2024-08-19): Liya 2.0, dual boot with encryption, Haiku introduces performance improvements, Gentoo dropping IA-64, Redcore merges major upgrade |
• Issue 1083 (2024-08-12): TrueNAS 24.04.2 "SCALE", Linux distros for smartphones, Redox OS introduces web server, PipeWire exposes battery drain on Linux, Canonical updates kernel version policy |
• Issue 1082 (2024-08-05): Linux Mint 22, taking snapshots of UFS on FreeBSD, openSUSE updates Tumbleweed and Aeon, Debian creates Tiny QA Tasks, Manjaro testing immutable images |
• Issue 1081 (2024-07-29): SysLinuxOS 12.4, OpenBSD gain hardware acceleration, Slackware changes kernel naming, Mint publishes upgrade instructions |
• Issue 1080 (2024-07-22): Running GNU/Linux on Android with Andronix, protecting network services, Solus dropping AppArmor and Snap, openSUSE Aeon Desktop gaining full disk encryption, SUSE asks openSUSE to change its branding |
• Issue 1079 (2024-07-15): Ubuntu Core 24, hiding files on Linux, Fedora dropping X11 packages on Workstation, Red Hat phasing out GRUB, new OpenSSH vulnerability, FreeBSD speeds up release cycle, UBports testing new first-run wizard |
• Issue 1078 (2024-07-08): Changing init software, server machines running desktop environments, OpenSSH vulnerability patched, Peppermint launches new edition, HardenedBSD updates ports |
• Issue 1077 (2024-07-01): The Unity and Lomiri interfaces, different distros for different tasks, Ubuntu plans to run Wayland on NVIDIA cards, openSUSE updates Leap Micro, Debian releases refreshed media, UBports gaining contact synchronisation, FreeDOS celebrates its 30th anniversary |
• Issue 1076 (2024-06-24): openSUSE 15.6, what makes Linux unique, SUSE Liberty Linux to support CentOS Linux 7, SLE receives 19 years of support, openSUSE testing Leap Micro edition |
• Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
• Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
• Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
• Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
• Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
• Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
• Issue 1069 (2024-05-06): Ubuntu 24.04, installing packages in alternative locations, systemd creates sudo alternative, Mint encourages XApps collaboration, FreeBSD publishes quarterly update |
• Issue 1068 (2024-04-29): Fedora 40, transforming one distro into another, Debian elects new Project Leader, Red Hat extends support cycle, Emmabuntus adds accessibility features, Canonical's new security features |
• Issue 1067 (2024-04-22): LocalSend for transferring files, detecting supported CPU architecure levels, new visual design for APT, Fedora and openSUSE working on reproducible builds, LXQt released, AlmaLinux re-adds hardware support |
• Issue 1066 (2024-04-15): Fun projects to do with the Raspberry Pi and PinePhone, installing new software on fixed-release distributions, improving GNOME Terminal performance, Mint testing new repository mirrors, Gentoo becomes a Software In the Public Interest project |
• Issue 1065 (2024-04-08): Dr.Parted Live 24.03, answering questions about the xz exploit, Linux Mint to ship HWE kernel, AlmaLinux patches flaw ahead of upstream Red Hat, Calculate changes release model |
• Issue 1064 (2024-04-01): NixOS 23.11, the status of Hurd, liblzma compromised upstream, FreeBSD Foundation focuses on improving wireless networking, Ubuntu Pro offers 12 years of support |
• Issue 1063 (2024-03-25): Redcore Linux 2401, how slowly can a rolling release update, Debian starts new Project Leader election, Red Hat creating new NVIDIA driver, Snap store hit with more malware |
• Issue 1062 (2024-03-18): KDE neon 20240304, changing file permissions, Canonical turns 20, Pop!_OS creates new software centre, openSUSE packages Plasma 6 |
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