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1 • Fixing RSS Feeds (by New User on 2024-05-13 01:09:12 GMT from Canada)
Have been using Falkon web browser which has worked flawlessly. Recently however, when going to distrowatch.com, it fails to load properly, requiring a number of page reload attempts to get the page to load. This seems to occur specifically ONLY on distrowatch.com. When clicking on the link to the distrowatch weekly page, it NEVER loads.
Is it possible this behaviour might be related to the RSS issue discussed at the end of distrowatch 1070?
A further question: While I have not experienced this behaviour when accessing distrowatch.com with Firefox, it has another problem. I have Firefox set up (from settings menu) to always ask where to "save to". Problem is, it DOESN't always save to the LAST place it should have saved to. It will randomly save to unexpected locations, depending on the file extension. When you are jumping around saving hundreds or thousands of items (for research or whatever), it is ESSENTIAL that savings foollow last saved location as I jump around. Otherwise, the behaviour is completely broken and unusable.
Finally figured out, Firefox depends on about:config in the url bar for saving settings, rather than editing a text file, or using it's own settings menu (which logically, is where you'd think it would save settings). But there are soooo many settings to toggle there, it's mind-boggling. Any suggestions as to just what specific flags to toggle to get the desired behaviour?
Any suggested fixes appreciated.
2 • Xorg (by John on 2024-05-13 01:20:57 GMT from Canada)
I hope Xorg keeps going for many years, but I think the commercial will be all Wayland rather soon.
My only complaint about Wayland is it is being developed only for Linux, no thought of portability. That is giving the BSDs a vary hard time.
3 • Silent Linux (by VM Clark on 2024-05-13 01:28:33 GMT from United States)
"Keeping-the-kernel-quiet asks". I had a very similar question and visited that Arch site,. It help but still go unwanted messages.
Since then, I installed Ubuntu LTS and used its default grub.cfg . Result, no messages.
Previous had my own grub.cfg I used for years that had those "quiet" and "Splash" attached, but made no difference.
4 • X11 Top shelf item (by artytux on 2024-05-13 01:47:18 GMT from Australia)
I have tried Wayland on a five distros and all had high cpu use and they seem to prefer btrfs,
X11 with Ext4 it's just fine works and work well, no need to change when it works !
If I was forced to use Wayland I would change distro if I run out of distros using X11 on Linux Hah Then I got a serious problem.
5 • @1 tweak about:config via. user.js (by Vinfall on 2024-05-13 01:51:44 GMT from Hong Kong)
A good starting point to tweak about:config is arkenfox/user.js. Although it focuses on privacy stuff, things like downloads are offered as well. In your case, it's https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/blob/master/user.js#L587-L598
Don't get scared by the 1200 lines of code. That is already a trimmed version of the lengthy list of Firefox configs. If you are interested, you can learn more about customization on Firefox via user.js (and pref.js, aka. autoconfig), userChrome.css, userContent.css with several searches. Just do not play with omni.ja, that would a nightmare.
6 • @4 X11 (by Reyfer on 2024-05-13 03:11:48 GMT from Venezuela)
I am using Wayland on Debian 12, KaOS, Siduction, MX-Linux, all with Ext4 (never installed BTRFS, no need for most of its features), and I fail to see the high CPU usage you mention, even when some of the distros I use (Debian 12 and KaOS) are installed on laptops with integrated graphics, I still fail to see this high CPU usage
7 • DSL (by Jon on 2024-05-13 03:25:22 GMT from United States)
Thanks for DSL check. Some comments/wonders. You might've mentioned that it's still unreleased at RC3 (and maybe which Antix version it's based on--better yet, a comparison to the base distro--ie, why run one vs the other at what level of resources/hardware, etc).
Second, "DSL File Restore" in the menu should be run before an apt update -- this gets the man pages and things that don't fit on the CD iso. Perhaps a lot of people live in it "live" so the menu entry makes more sense than as one-time "first run" (as would be the case with HD installs) usage. Anyway, it (the file restore) seems to "fix" a lot of things.
Perhaps the default/home web pages should have "first run" things like that, etc instead of the home page at DSL (???).
Also, what apps--an ftp client makes the list but no media player or pdf reader or graphics or ???
The AntiX people seem quite proud of all the live/persistence options that appear to be "bundled in" to DSL--how do they work, etc?
8 • X vs Wayland (by Mike on 2024-05-13 07:21:35 GMT from The Netherlands)
I did a fresh install of Solus OS 1-2 months ago. It uses Plasma with Wayland as default. My Nvidia 1050 card did not work well with this configuration. Youtube gave flikkering during video playback. I switched back to X and all the problems disappeared. Is this a Solus OS issue or a Wayland issue?
9 • @5 tweak about:config (by New User on 2024-05-13 07:44:14 GMT from Canada)
Thanks for the tip. Appreciated.
Also thanks for the warning about 1200 lines of code; helped lessen the shock.
10 • quiet kernel / Xorg (by jazzfelix on 2024-05-13 08:08:37 GMT from Germany)
If you want a really quiet kernel at boot, try an OS from the Solaris family.
It has been a while but I always had trouble with wayland. I use a proprietary software (mplab x ide) and that had some glitches in the past as well as puredata (which is gpl'd I think). Also my window manager is i3 and I will stick to this until the ends of all time.
@2: In the FreeBSD ports tree there is a wayland port. I never tried it though.
11 • x11 (by 6 • @4 X11 (by Reyfer) on 2024-05-13 09:10:02 GMT from Australia)
If you care to notice that I was using btrfs
'I have tried Wayland on a five distros and all had high cpu use and they seem to prefer btrfs '
then you wrote
'all with Ext4 (never installed BTRFS) , ' I still fail to see this high CPU usage'
And there is the difference = btrfs !
12 • Wayland (by Jürgen on 2024-05-13 09:16:53 GMT from Denmark)
I can't even remember for how long Linux distros have been promising to switch to Wayland by default with their next (LTS) release, only to consistently fail to do that and then promise again they would do it with the next release. (This time fo' sho', tho'.) It's one thing that it is a complicated matter, so I understand if it doesn't go smoothly; the problem is the constant promises and high hopes which mostly keep disappointing. As the Good Book says: "For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish." (https://biblehub.com/luke/14-28.htm)
13 • Wayland & BSD (by 0323pin on 2024-05-13 10:41:03 GMT from Sweden)
@10 FreeBSD and, to a certain extent OpenBSD have created a compatibility layer for Wayland to work on their OSs. I use NetBSD and such layer doesn't exit, ... yet.
All in all, @2 is correct, Wayland is written with only Linux in mind.
14 • X11 & Wayland (by Carlo Alessandro Verre on 2024-05-13 11:49:21 GMT from Italy)
I use Debian 12 with X11 and I'm fine with it. An ancient Italian proverb says:
"Chi lascia la via vecchia per la nuova
sa quel che lascia non sa quel che trova"
In English:
"He who leaves the old path for the new one
knows what he leaves but does not know what he finds"
15 • Falkon and website (by Jesse on 2024-05-13 12:55:58 GMT from Canada)
@1: " when going to distrowatch.com, it fails to load properly, requiring a number of page reload attempts to get the page to load. This seems to occur specifically ONLY on distrowatch.com. When clicking on the link to the distrowatch weekly page, it NEVER loads.
Is it possible this behaviour might be related to the RSS issue discussed at the end of distrowatch 1070?"
This isn't related to the RSS feed issue. The format of the feeds only affects feed readers which are specifically loading our news feeds.
I'm a bit curious as there aren't many things which should cause a page to not load the first few times, but will load eventually with refreshes. Usually that's a sign a network connection is bad or the browser isn't loading the page properly. Or the browser isn't working with your DNS system.
One thing which stands out here is the comment that the page never loads when licking the weekly link. Can you e-mail us and tell us what does happen an what your IP address is? Is there any error, does the browser seem to time out, does the browser not recognize the link?
16 • Falkon (by Jesse on 2024-05-13 13:03:39 GMT from Canada)
@1: As a follow-up to my reply in @15, I tested DistroWatch with Falkon and have no problems accessing the website or the Weekly. (I'm posting this comment from Falkon 24.02.2.)
17 • @14 (by Reyfer on 2024-05-13 13:34:43 GMT from Venezuela)
Following your proverb, people should stop suggesting windows users switch to Linux, since we should not learn new things or take risks, just stick to the old ways
18 • DSL and UEFI (by luvr on 2024-05-13 14:37:38 GMT from Belgium)
“When I tried DSL on my laptop I discovered the distribution would not boot in UEFI mode, it will boot in Legacy BIOS mode only.”
Wouldn’t it be odd if it did boot in UEFI mode, given that it’s a 32-bit system only?
19 • @17 (by Carlo Alessandro Verre on 2024-05-13 15:16:42 GMT from Italy)
You're right, but I just wanted to say that I won't switch to Wayland until I have a good reason to do so.
20 • @ 7 DSL (by Yan on 2024-05-13 15:40:05 GMT from Canada)
DSL's home page at https://damnsmalllinux.org/ lists the applications you're looking for: Zathura PDF viewer, MPV (video and audio), XMMS (a lightweight audio player), mtPaint (graphics editing), etc.
21 • FreeBSD and Linux drift (by Alvaro on 2024-05-13 16:12:20 GMT from Italy)
@2
"My only complaint about Wayland is it is being developed only for Linux, no thought of portability. That is giving the BSDs a vary hard time."
The real goal of FreeBSD should be to build a completely alternative operating system to Linux, given the bad turn Linux is taking.
22 • Poll (by Robert on 2024-05-13 16:51:08 GMT from United States)
Define "supported in Linux distributions
If were talking widespread support as an option if not the default, then I would guess 5-10 years. The major distros will have shifted over, and even many of the more conservative distros as well by 10 years.
If we're talking about supported anywhere at all, then there will be niche specialist and protest distros until the end of time.
23 • Wayland (by JeffC on 2024-05-13 16:53:31 GMT from United States)
Wayland is not ready to use yet.
Yes, I know that the Wayland devs say it is the other parts which they are not responsible for that are not ready, but the simple fact is that until those parts are ready Wayland is not ready.
X11 will continue to be the default until all of the Wayland ecosystem is ready.
24 • Wayland on the BSDs (by Ennio on 2024-05-13 18:11:39 GMT from The Netherlands)
Like the proverbial "elephant in the room" it would be difficult for the BSD family to ignore the Wayland progress and refinement. As a possibility, because Open and Net have their own higly customized forks of Xorg already. Or for convenience, as the remarkable commenter oiaohm on OSNews has suggested:
"“Linux can converge towards Wayland + systemd + GNOME/KDE + Flatpak/Snap and the BSDs can stick with X11 + rc + Xfce + traditional packages.”
This idea is not workable. Few hard realities. Graphics drivers for BSD the upstream is basically Linux. Why BSD does not have the resources any more to code graphics drivers from scratch. You move on to applications you find the same thing. There is limited developer time. Flatpak and Snap are attempts in the Linux world to reduce developer time usage porting applications. It is a matter of time until we have Wayland only applications appear.
PS check the link the person doing Wayland on OpenBSD this is a developer of Xenocara."
For OpenBSD, then, already able to enjoy a full KDE Plasma 5.7 thanks to maintainer Rafael Sadowski, the Wayland port can be found at the usual GitHub repo and the last commit is some months old. With Wayland v. 1.23 close to release in May the OpenBSD support is in mainline, thus, maybe, new commits will come soon. Matthieu Herrb published a paper - Towards running a Wayland Compositor on OpenBSD - consequent the EuroBSDCon in Tallin, Estonia, last year.
For NetBSD the workforce is more limited and maintainer Nina Alarie had a scratch with Wayland, as reported in the post "Wayland on NetBSD - trials and tribulations", but four years ago, darn... The closing of her post explains the scarcity of news/code about NetBSD and Wayland:
"I've decided to take a break from this, since it's a fairly huge undertaking and uphill battle. Right now, X11 combined with a compositor like picom or xcompmgr is the more mature option."
FreeBSD, compared to its siblings, opens prairies of reduced drama thanks to full fledged docs, wiki, tutorials and it's marvelous Handbook (so maybe I'll start from there...).
25 • @8 1050 and Wayland (by Robert on 2024-05-13 20:34:10 GMT from United States)
Most people would tell you the problem is Nvidia. I'm going to tell you there's been a compatibility issue between Nvidia cards and Wayland for a while and try to avoid pointing fingers.
Nvidia didn't want to do things the Wayland way and Wayland didn't want to accomodate Nvidia either.
26 • DSL (by George on 2024-05-13 21:25:05 GMT from Canada)
Just wanted to mention I tried a few small linux for older computers, and concluded that the functionality was very poor compared to Windows 95, which ran fast, without bugs, but obviously insecure and out of date. So, it's pretty much a necessity to go online.
27 • RSS (by a on 2024-05-13 22:51:18 GMT from France)
Thanks for maintaining RSS feeds! I haven’t had any issue in the past years using the Bamboo addon for Pale Moon.
28 • X11 (by Martin on 2024-05-14 01:15:05 GMT from Czechia)
I have yet to see any advantage of Wayland over X. So far all I've seen is Wayland being way less stable and functional. I hope it will never fully replace X11.
29 • Falkon (by Zac on 2024-05-14 02:51:58 GMT from United States)
@16 Jesse, I was curious so I installed the Falkon package in the default Ubuntu 24.04 repo. It's version 24.01.75. The Distrowatch homepage loads the top bar and the first ad placement and that's it... unless I visit the same page more than once. Then sometimes it loads the page, sometimes it doesn't.
30 • Wayland/Manjaro/Plasma 6 (by brad on 2024-05-14 09:05:31 GMT from United States)
Manjaro Stable recently introduced Plasma 6 with X11 as the default, since I had been using X11 all along - Manjaro respected my previous choice.
I have been testing Wayland in this environment (please note - no NVIDIA card - I have no need for fancy graphics) and I have not found any issues with Wayland after a day or so of "normal" use. I will stick with this configuration until I run into an issue (application-related or otherwise) that will force me to go "back" to using X11.
31 • Damn Small Linux (by ThomasAnderson on 2024-05-15 01:08:17 GMT from Australia)
Damn Small Linux isn't Damn Small Linux
1) the size of the distro
Originally 50Mb in size
Current is a massive 700Mb
2) original DSL was based on Knoppix proper
Current is a re-spin of Antix
In what way is re-spinning Antix and slapping on the title of Damn Small Linux innovative? Change a wallpaper....wow. Remove a few apps, add a few other apps....?
Keeping Fluxbox and JWM from Antix....how is that unique? Is there actually anything about this pretender DSL that makes it even worthy of carrying the name? Everything that was great about DSL original is destroyed in this new monstrosity.
Perhaps my unpopular opinion will cause some people to get their heckles up, but the current Damn Small Linux is nothing but a respin of Antix.
That is not Damn Small Linux.
If you want the real DSL in 2024, use TinyCore.
32 • @31 Damn small Linux (by vmclark on 2024-05-15 03:19:44 GMT from United States)
Oh my. Its now Damn Big Linux now. Odd though, when using a small Antix for its base.
I like way back when. Its just not relevant today. Most of us have way more powerful computers.
Even Raspberry Pi is much more powerful than yesteryear's old 32bit stuff.
33 • DS-antiX-L (by DS-antiX-L on 2024-05-15 04:01:57 GMT from Singapore)
@31
Exactly what I thought after reading the DSL website.
I might as well use antiX so that I don't risk waking up one day and find it disappear again.
34 • DSL (by dragonmouth on 2024-05-15 10:50:51 GMT from United States)
Damn Small Linux @ 700 Mb? Sounds like the definition of "elephant" as a mouse built to government specs.
OTOH, at 700 Mb, it IS small in comparison to most other distros.
35 • Wayland and VNC (by Jimbo on 2024-05-15 20:29:47 GMT from New Zealand)
I have Wayland on one laptop partition (EndeavourOS) but all attempts to setup VNC connection to it from other devices in the house have failed. I have no problem with VNC sessions on X.org even on same laptop (when running Debian) - so out of ideas at this stage.
36 • DSL is still small (by JeffC on 2024-05-15 21:05:07 GMT from United States)
If you look at the current releases of antiX that come with Window Managers, you will see that they are 1.2GB or larger.
700MB is quite a bit smaller.
It really is an accomplishment to get a usable system that fits on a CD, where that matters is for old computers that do not have a DVD drive or are not able to boot from USB.
37 • Damn Small Linux (by ThomasAnderson on 2024-05-16 05:13:26 GMT from Australia)
Yes, 700Mb is smaller than your standard distro but....
It's called Damn Small Linux for a reason because 50Mb was damn small. The only other distro that comes close to the original DSL is TinyCore
Perhaps they can change the name to "Quite a bit smaller linux"....
Aside from TinyCore (23Mb), Slitaz is also damn small (43Mb).
700Mb spin of Antix just seems to me to be resurrecting a name for fame.
38 • @36: (by dragonmouth on 2024-05-16 12:22:23 GMT from United States)
"It really is an accomplishment to get a usable system that fits on a CD"
Depends on your definition of "usable." Depends what you expect your "usable" distro to do.
TinyCore ans Slitaz cannot be used to do video editing but they are "usable". If TinyCore and Slitaz can be "usable" at under 100 Mb, why can't DSL?
As ThomasAnerson said - "700Mb spin of Antix just seems to me to be resurrecting a name for fame. "
39 • NSDSL (by MTR on 2024-05-16 17:57:13 GMT from The Netherlands)
How about "Not So Damn Small Linux" (NSDSL)? ;)
BTW, the reviewer didn't get the wallpaper right,
but then again, that's antiX "legacy." :)
https://ibb.co/XkhNk5q
https://ibb.co/3MxY5VW
40 • Damn Medium Size Linux (by Wally on 2024-05-17 03:23:29 GMT from Australia)
@39, "How about "Not So Damn Small Linux" (NSDSL)? ;)" Damn right! We can handle the truth. Once when I opened the DW page, the random distribution was KRUD. Now that's truth in advertising. Of course, it folded.
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42 • SparkyLinux (by OldTimer2 on 2024-05-17 20:21:38 GMT from United Kingdom)
Good to see SparkyLinux getting coverage.
It is a better than average distro, an excellent refinement of Debian with regular updates and lots of variations.
Recommended for anyone thinking of migrating from Ubuntu.
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| • Issue 1135 (2025-08-18): Debian 13, Proton, WINE, Wayland, and Wayback, Debian GNU/Hurd 2025, KDE gets advanced Liquid Glass, Haiku improves authentication tools |
| • Issue 1134 (2025-08-11): Rhino Linux 2025.3, thoughts on malware in the AUR, Fedora brings hammered websites back on-line, NetBSD reveals features for version 11, Ubuntu swaps some command line tools for 25.10, AlmaLinux improves NVIDIA support |
| • Issue 1133 (2025-08-04): Expirion Linux 6.0, running Plasma on Linux Mint, finding distros which support X11, Debian addresses 22 year old bug, FreeBSD discusses potential issues with pkgbase, CDE ported to OpenBSD, Btrfs corruption bug hitting Fedora users, more malware found in Arch User Repository |
| • Issue 1132 (2025-07-28): deepin 25, wars in the open source community, proposal to have Fedora enable Flathub repository, FreeBSD plans desktop install option, Wayback gets its first release |
| • Issue 1131 (2025-07-21): HeliumOS 10.0, settling on one distro, Mint plans new releases, Arch discovers malware in AUR, Plasma Bigscreen returns, Clear Linux discontinued |
| • Issue 1130 (2025-07-14): openSUSE MicroOS and RefreshOS, sharing aliases between computers, Bazzite makes Bazaar its default Flatpak store, Alpine plans Wayback release, Wayland and X11 benchmarked, Red Hat offers additional developer licenses, openSUSE seeks feedback from ARM users, Ubuntu 24.10 reaches the end of its life |
| • Issue 1129 (2025-07-07): GLF OS Omnislash, the worst Linux distro, Alpine introduces Wayback, Fedora drops plans to stop i686 support, AlmaLinux builds EPEL repository for older CPUs, Ubuntu dropping existing RISC-V device support, Rhino partners with UBports, PCLinuxOS recovering from website outage |
| • Issue 1128 (2025-06-30): AxOS 25.06, AlmaLinux OS 10.0, transferring Flaptak bundles to off-line computers, Ubuntu to boost Intel graphics performance, Fedora considers dropping i686 packages, SDesk switches from SELinux to AppArmor |
| • Issue 1127 (2025-06-23): LastOSLinux 2025-05-25, most unique Linux distro, Haiku stabilises, KDE publishes Plasma 6.4, Arch splits Plasma packages, Slackware infrastructure migrating |
| • Issue 1126 (2025-06-16): SDesk 2025.05.06, renewed interest in Ubuntu Touch, a BASIC device running NetBSD, Ubuntu dropping X11 GNOME session, GNOME increases dependency on systemd, Google holding back Pixel source code, Nitrux changing its desktop, EFF turns 35 |
| • Issue 1125 (2025-06-09): RHEL 10, distributions likely to survive a decade, Murena partners with more hardware makers, GNOME tests its own distro on real hardware, Redox ports GTK and X11, Mint provides fingerprint authentication |
| • Issue 1124 (2025-06-02): Picking up a Pico, tips for protecting privacy, Rhino tests Plasma desktop, Arch installer supports snapshots, new features from UBports, Ubuntu tests monthly snapshots |
| • Issue 1123 (2025-05-26): CRUX 3.8, preventing a laptop from sleeping, FreeBSD improves laptop support, Fedora confirms GNOME X11 session being dropped, HardenedBSD introduces Rust in userland build, KDE developing a virtual machine manager |
| • Issue 1122 (2025-05-19): GoboLinux 017.01, RHEL 10.0 and Debian 12 updates, openSUSE retires YaST, running X11 apps on Wayland |
| • Issue 1121 (2025-05-12): Bluefin 41, custom file manager actions, openSUSE joins End of 10 while dropping Deepin desktop, Fedora offers tips for building atomic distros, Ubuntu considers replacing sudo with sudo-rs |
| • Issue 1120 (2025-05-05): CachyOS 250330, what it means when a distro breaks, Kali updates repository key, Trinity receives an update, UBports tests directory encryption, Gentoo faces losing key infrastructure |
| • Issue 1119 (2025-04-28): Ubuntu MATE 25.04, what is missing from Linux, CachyOS ships OCCT, Debian enters soft freeze, Fedora discusses removing X11 session from GNOME, Murena plans business services, NetBSD on a Wii |
| • Issue 1118 (2025-04-21): Fedora 42, strange characters in Vim, Nitrux introduces new package tools, Fedora extends reproducibility efforts, PINE64 updates multiple devices running Debian |
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