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1 • Reiserfs (by What tO Believe on 2023-10-02 01:03:59 GMT from Canada)
You asked if any readers use Reiserfs. After seeing a comparison of file table performance on Phoronix, I switched to Reiser 3 and found better use of disk space, and no need to worry about running out of inodes. The main point of interest was, according to Phoronix data, Reiser had a more graceful data recovery from power failures than other contenders at the time. This was a while ago and just going by memory re the Phoronix results.
Once Hans Reiser was found guilty of murdering his wife and imprisoned,apparently development did not stop, but slowed. Last I recall reading, Reiser4 had issues, and the lone remaining developer was working on version5, and complaining he couldn't get any support.
In addition to the old Phoronix tables (think they were looking at version3 at the time?), there was an excellent reference on Wikipedia about filing systems in general. Clicking on any area will bring up lots of interesting details.
Seem to recall finding that reference to Reiser5 on one of the podcasts you link to, but can't recall which one.
For anyone worried about data integrity and "bit rot", the comments I've seen indicate using BTRFS (which has a checkered history re destroying data), and ZFS (which had licensing issues under Linux, but supposedly resolved under oppenszfs?).
Not clear if IBM's XFS monitors for bit rot.
For the moment, due to unreliable local power utility, have gone back to ext4 and purchased a UPS, and make regular data backups, with data on a separate partition. That way I only have to backup data on a regular basis, while keeping an image of the OS partition.
Speaking of data integrity, now have questions about maybe I should get a better mother board that supports buffered, error-checking memory?
How do large corporations handle the issue of data integrity where a flipped bit in the wrong place can have dire consequences?
Any comments, corrections, and related tips re the above appreciated.
One thing I DO know for certain, my OWN memory "ain't so good" anymore. Finding an old-fashioned pencil and notepad slowly taking over. And my brain does not seem to have sockets to replace failing memory. Sigh.....
2 • length of media files and advertisement on DW (by Guido on 2023-10-02 01:06:06 GMT from Philippines)
I am using rhythmbox 3.4.4 at the moment, it has no status bar any more and will not show the length of all media files. But audio players like audacious, qmmp, deadbeef and others can do it and show the length of the files in a certain folder.
Please a bit lesser advertisement on your website. Then no ad-blockers are needed.
3 • ReiserFS (by Ken Miller on 2023-10-02 02:59:17 GMT from United States)
I was using ReiserFS when Hans went crazy and killed his wife. Many, if not most of us desktop casual users switched soon after. To think Ext3, which was en vogue at that time, IIRC, but things are starting to get a bit fuzzy.
4 • Length of Playlist (by Simon Plaistowe on 2023-10-02 03:47:51 GMT from New Zealand)
For my music collection I use Clementine, which definitely totals up the total length of the playlist. Strawberry is a fork of Clementine, it does the same.
My multimedia player is Celluloid (standard in Linux Mint these days), which doesn't seem to be able to give me the total playing time on a playlist. Same goes for LibreELEC, which I use in the lounge to watch stuff on the big screen. If I ever need a video playlist length I reckon I'll just reach for VLC.
5 • Data integrity (by Michael on 2023-10-02 04:09:26 GMT from Australia)
In the corporate environment, servers will always be purchased with ECC memory, and duplicate power supplies, NICs, fans, local boot drives and whatever else the manufacturer can supply which will provide redundancy.
In the past there would also be duplication of entire servers, but this has generally morphed into server virtualisation where a running virtual server can move seamlessly from one virtual host to another to cater for failure of a host, or to make server manitenance easier.
The environment will also have redundant network infrastructure, fibre intrastructure and power, and large-scale power redundancy with UPSs and generators. There will also be duplication of the entire data centre, with alternate data centres geographically distant, to cater for major disasters.
One thing which isn't duplicated is the user interface, with a single rack having just one keyboard, mouse and monitor, and somestimes not even that - these are often mounted on a wheeled trolley and carted around the data centre to be plugged in when required.
Data centres are cold, noisy and mostly empty of humans...
6 • Length of media files script (by Head_on_a_Stick on 2023-10-02 04:54:07 GMT from United Kingdom)
@Jesse: why are you using a bash shebang in a script that contains no bashisms? Do you want it to run slower for any particular reason? If not then a /bin/sh shebang would probably be better. Debian and several other distributions use dash for /bin/sh, which will be faster, lighter and less buggy than bash.
7 • ReiserFS (by Alexandru on 2023-10-02 06:12:06 GMT from Romania)
I was using ReiserFS not for journalizing, but primarily for its tree filesystem structure. BtrFS also is designed having Beta Tree concept in its heart. In my opinion, BtrFS tries to take the same niche as ReiserFS. However, as I said last week, I had no success with fsck.btrfs unlike reiserfsck.
I know, there were problems with integration of ReiserFS in Linux kernel, Reiser4 support did not land in Linux. I know, before being found guilty, Hans Reiser had many different opinions on the way software should be designed, tested and integrated, which led to never ending debates (wars) about code quality and so.
I only claim I did not found a true replacement for ReiserFS, BtrFS being the closest one. I run Linux (Debian) on ReiserFS as long as It was supported. When Linux could not more boot off ReiserFS (root on ReiserFS), I used it for my data partition. Then I switched to BtrFS. I understand, that regardless of the quality of initial code, with no support it is almost useless. It's a pity.
8 • opion poll about ReiserFS (by always-curious-about-foss on 2023-10-02 06:25:59 GMT from Germany)
I missed the two mainly answers in this poll:
1. I never used ReiserFS (how long is Ext4 in use? )
2. I am using my distro without knowimg the journaling filesystem
9 • Zenwalk (by uz64 on 2023-10-02 09:17:21 GMT from United States)
I used to really like Zenwalk. It was the very first distro I settled on back when I decided to ditch Windows almost, if not, about two decades ago. It used to be a very simple Slackware-based distro with a very standard Xfce desktop (which was part of its charm), no ridiculous graphical effects added, one application per task was its philosophy, and their own custom dependency-tracking package management system on top.
I don't know what the hell they've done, but the Zenwalk of today is nowhere close to the Zenwalk I used to enjoy using. They seem to release date-based "snapshot" images instead of point releases, and the desktop... it's an incredibly ugly, highly customized mess with unwanted effects.
RIP, old Zenwalk... well at least Salix is still somewhat close to Zenwalk's original vision.
10 • Zenwalk (by kc1di on 2023-10-02 10:54:52 GMT from United States)
sorry to here that Zenwalk has fallen so badly of late. Have not used it in a while. but as @9 said it used to be solid and functional in the old times. I also use Vector linux which is now defunct too bad because that was a solid Slack desktop also. Now a days I'm lazy and LMDE 6 is great.
Cheers!
11 • Adblocking (by BadWolf on 2023-10-02 12:20:57 GMT from United States)
I use uBlock Origin and I have no issues. All parts of the site are accessible to me. No part of this site is blocked. I did some testing myself on this and if any user of uO has issues here, it's due to their own personal settings. They'll need to go into uBlock Origin settings and click on 'Reset to default settings'. As they may have blocked something on another site that is causing the issue here.
BW
12 • ReiserFS (by eb on 2023-10-02 12:32:21 GMT from France)
I still use reiserfs on a 20 years old hardware, with a 20 years old Suse with Blackbox window manager, that run a 20 years old but excellent professional software !:-D.
13 • File system choices (by Otis on 2023-10-02 13:34:36 GMT from United States)
Honestly I was not paying attention to which (default) file system was there in distros I was installing over the years, for the simple reason that as a beginner, and later on as a lazy user, I could not detect much in the way of meaningful differences between them.
Then one day I read about the founder/maintainer of the ReiserFS and was appalled. That made me look more closely at things. The ext* became my go to after that just for simplicity and predictability.
14 • Shell choice (by Jesse on 2023-10-02 13:50:29 GMT from Canada)
@6: "why are you using a bash shebang in a script that contains no bashisms? Do you want it to run slower for any particular reason? "
I suspect you're joking, or have fallen for someone else who is joking and misleading you.
We're talking about executing about half a dozen lines of shell script. The difference in the time it takes for the system to run the script using bash, dash, or BSD's default shell, is so small it cannot be perceived by the human eye.
Don't take my word for it, or anyone else's, you can test it yourself.
Here is the timing result of running the media-duration script when bash is the interpreting shell for about a dozen media files:
real 0m0.805s
user 0m0.664s
sys 0m0.162s
And here is the result of timing dash interpreting the same script in the same directory:
real 0m0.799s
user 0m0.630s
sys 0m0.188s
The system time is a little more, the userspace time a little less. But the difference in real time, the difference the end user sees? It's 0.006 seconds. You cannot perceive the difference. The idea that using one shell over another for speed, when we're talking about a one-time run of a tiny script like this, is pointless.
> "Debian and several other distributions use dash for /bin/sh,"
That's fine, if you're using Debian or a distribution which uses a dash/bash compatible /bin/sh. I run a wide variety of operating systems, including some which are not Linux-based. It's not a good idea to assume you know what /bin/sh is compatible with when moving between systems. If I happen to end up running scripts on a system where /bin/sh is compatible or points to csh or ksh then it's going to blow up in my face if I simply use /bin/sh for all my scripts. It dosn't happen often, but it's not a good idea to assume you know how /bin/sh will behave.
15 • Snap malware (by nsp0323 on 2023-10-02 14:15:48 GMT from Sweden)
Since no one had a comment about it, I guess malware in snaps is something that is regarded as normal these days. Perhaps, even something you would expect to happen.
16 • Snap malware (by hadji457 on 2023-10-02 14:50:15 GMT from United States)
@15: Maybe not many of us use snaps. Just saying.
17 • Snap malware (by David on 2023-10-02 16:15:17 GMT from United Kingdom)
Clem was obviously prescient when he dropped Snap support from Mint! His comment at the time was "Applications in this store cannot be patched, or pinned. You can’t audit them, hold them, modify them or even point snap to a different store. You’ve as much empowerment with this as if you were using proprietary software, i.e. none. "
18 • ReiserFS (by John on 2023-10-02 17:08:59 GMT from Canada)
I use to use ReiserFS, but moved to jfs before Reiser's wife was killed. Then maybe ~10 years ago I went to ext4.
I really liked jfs, but when IBM stopped funding it for Linux (fired the maintainers), seems it started a slow march to abandonware. A few years after that abandonment I lost a couple of files dues to a power outage. I never had issues with jfs in the past.
I wonder if jfs will go the way of ReiserFS too. Also I am curious how many people still use jfs. Per wikipedia lfs performance has fallen behind ext4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFS_%28file_system%29
19 • Reiser FS (by arkaland on 2023-10-02 18:02:41 GMT from United States)
I've been using the JFS filesystem since August of 2008. Since then I've always used it
on the hard drive and also on storage-type flash drives as well. I myself have never had
a single problem with JFS. In fact, I find it so reliable (and the man files so understandable
and accurate) that I have never been tempted to try ext4 or any "advanced" filesystem
instead of JFS. Of course, I don't care about "extra" features such as being able to
re-size partitions, and I've always done my own regular backups. It's true that jfs-1.1.15
no longer receives "upgrades", but it really doesn't need any.
20 • Malware in snaps arenot Snap malware (by hhmmhh on 2023-10-03 02:25:52 GMT from France)
@15, @16, @17 i have no liking for statically-linked distribution-agnostic software deployment systems like Snap, FlatPak or AppIm, but...
Who's guilty here? Snap or the guy who hid a malware in packages?
How do you know your favorite distro's repositories do not contain software infested with some yet unknown malware?
What is a curated software repository but one only devoid of already-known malware?
We cannot trust downloaded software, whatever its source. We just depend on software repositories to get us rid of malware as soon as it is detected.
Stopping the deployment of the compromised packages while preparing new versions whithout the malware is just what Snapcraft has been doing since it has been detected.
Is it not what opensource software user always have expected, remembering old stories of faulty proprietary software left unpatched in fear admitting a vulnerability will taint the company's reputation*?
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* E.g. DEC VMS privileged user accounts with default passwords...
21 • Linux Mint "Edge" announcement (by brad on 2023-10-03 11:25:31 GMT from United States)
"This image is made for people whose hardware is *too new* to boot the 5.15 LTS kernel included in Linux Mint 21.x"
Please, someone tell me that Linux Mint (and other distros?) are "backward-compatible"; i.e. that the newest hardware can boot older versions of the Linux kernel?
I thought that "planned obsolescence" was a hallmark of Windows and iOS, not Linux!
22 • kernel compatibility (by Dolphin Oracle on 2023-10-03 13:01:25 GMT from United States)
@21 since in linux most drivers are in the kernel, newer hardware tends to need newer kernels. graphics drivers are a major culprit here.
older hardware often has no issue with newer kernels, but newer hardware can have issues with older kernels.
23 • Ad Blocking with uBlock Origin (by Simon Plaistowe on 2023-10-03 20:08:56 GMT from New Zealand)
@11 Yes I agree, I also use uBlock Origin and have no issues. Perhaps BadWolf has "hit the nail on the head" and the problem is caused by personal settings.
24 • Zenwalk (by TK on 2023-10-04 06:05:53 GMT from Canada)
Zenwalk self-destructing during a system update by removing glibc is the most hilarious and devastating bug in recent memory.
25 • Zenwalk update problems (by Ennio on 2023-10-04 08:55:31 GMT from Netherlands)
Zenwalk was installed on the fly on reiserfs without problems, the updates were notified after reboot and no mirror selection options were offered. Netstat gave me a handful of IP addresses: the CERT server from Google USA and another thingy from Amazon somewhere and the Slackware packages repository was from South Africa. Will later see what happens if I want to select another. After reboot all is quiet, no glibc glitch. Side note: the background color during install was a delightful foggy green, like emerald on Monday morning at 7, and the network notification applet is holly fuchsia!
26 • Bodhi (by Geo on 2023-10-04 12:56:08 GMT from Germany)
just wanted to say I had huge success loading Bodhi on an ancient machine. My hat's off to them.
27 • Totally Milan Kundera moment with Zenwalk (by Ennio on 2023-10-05 07:03:41 GMT from Netherlands)
@25 It actually bricked, I was singing prematurely. What puzzles me more is the silence in the Zenwalk portion of Linux Questions. Although such a "glibc xxx not found" is not uncommon in this case even chrooting is pointless, there is no recovery.
28 • @24 (by kc1di on 2023-10-05 13:29:05 GMT from United States)
this could be the reason for it's removal.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-looney-tunables-linux-bug-gives-root-on-major-distros/
29 • ReiserFS (by Robert on 2023-10-05 17:27:26 GMT from United States)
I never used reiserfs. I do remember hearing about it back before ext4, but the buzz died down soon after. Didn't found out why until recently.
I started with ext3, then moved to xfs and stuck with that for a long time. I still use it for my desktop os partition, but my server is btrfs for the os while all of my data is zfs.
30 • @28 CVE-2023-4911 (by anticapitalista on 2023-10-05 19:27:23 GMT from Greece)
Debian has already provided fixes.
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-4911
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