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1 • Alpine runs on an iPhone as well (by Marco on 2023-04-03 00:42:47 GMT from United States)
ish is the name of the app.
https://ish.app/
2 • Convert man pages (by Bob on 2023-04-03 00:43:10 GMT from United States)
I convert man pages to text.
Example: man detox | col -b > detox-manual.txt
Source: https://granneman.com/tech/linux/commandline/convertmantotext
3 • Ubuntu Cinnamon (by Pumpino on 2023-04-03 02:01:41 GMT from Australia)
Comparing Ubuntu Cinnamon to Linux Mint is interesting. With the former, you get more recent packages for the core system, but the version of Cinnamon will likely remain locked at 5.6.7 until the next release. With the latter, you get the older LTS Ubuntu base (or older Debian base), but get new versions of Cinnamon as they're released (currently 5.6.8, so Ubuntu Cinnamon won't include the latest at the time of release). Choose your poison!
4 • EndeavourOS switching to Deepin (by Pumpino on 2023-04-03 02:13:50 GMT from Australia)
I believe EndeavourOS switching to Deepin was an April Fool's joke.
5 • alpine desktop (by opensusemicroos on 2023-04-03 02:15:29 GMT from Australia)
a easier way to get alpine for the desktop is to run the setup-desktop command. It then gives you a list of desktop environment like plasma, gnome, xfce etc to install. It's not listed on alpine website or wiki for some reason.
6 • Pumpino 3 re. Cinnamon (by Erik on 2023-04-03 02:27:08 GMT from United States)
Similarly to Kubuntu and KDE Neon
7 • EndeavourOS (by Jesse on 2023-04-03 02:29:29 GMT from Canada)
@4: "I believe EndeavourOS switching to Deepin was an April Fool's joke.
"
It might be, I'd even go so far as to say it probably is. Though, if so, their timing was over 24 hours early as the blog was dated March 30th. Enough users are excited about the changes they might have trouble walking this one back.
8 • MidnightBSD and GhostBSD (by InvisibleInk on 2023-04-03 02:56:42 GMT from United States)
I really like the idea of running MidnightBSD or, better yet, GhostBSD as my desktop operating system. Only thing holding me back is a full-featured network manager. That is what cripples these desktop BSDs in my opinion. For example, VPNs are a no-Go. Too bad, because there is a lot to like about them otherwise.
9 • Alpine packages (by nsp0323 on 2023-04-03 04:37:07 GMT from Sweden)
Jesse wrote, "I found the desktop software in Alpine's repositories tended to lag behind ... often weeks or months behind upstream. We can counter this somewhat by installing the Flatpak framework."
Or, enable the edge repository and get those newer versions, e.g. Firefox, https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86_64/firefox
10 • EndeavourOS (by eznix on 2023-04-03 05:45:33 GMT from United States)
@7 "Enough users are excited about the changes they might have trouble walking this one back. "
More like enough users are relieved as heck that it was a joke. Most EndeavourOS users would have a stroke if most of the changes outlined in the April Fool's post came to fruition. I don't use EndeavourOS, but I would lose all interest in the project if those changes happened. Half of the mock plans seemed like a thinly veiled poke at Garuda.
11 • EndeavourOS (by bittin on 2023-04-03 05:51:25 GMT from Sweden)
The announcment was posted 31th of March as there was a new ISO Released then that uses nvidia-dkms instead of nvidia from the Arch Linux repo
but the rest of it is an April fools joke, by Bryan, Manuel, Joe and some of the main developers of EOS
12 • convert man pages (by Carlo Alessandro Verre on 2023-04-03 07:35:01 GMT from Italy)
I use a script named man2pdf you can copy somewhere on your PATH, as follows:
#!/bin/bash
DIR=~/man
PS=$DIR/$1.ps
PDF=$DIR/$1.pdf
mkdir -p $DIR && man -t $1 >$PS && ps2pdf $PS $PDF && rm $PS && xdg-open $PDF
the man page is converted in pretty PDF format, and xdg-open opens it by the system standard PDF browser, allowing browsing and printing
13 • print off copies of some man pages (by eb on 2023-04-03 13:06:59 GMT from France)
man fluxbox > man-fluxbox.txt
14 • Alpine Linux (by corpsouth on 2023-04-03 14:14:38 GMT from United States)
It didn't take me more than few minutes to look through some recommended practices before going into setting up Alpine Linux, this is why documentation should be read before going into a "distro review". It took roughly the same amount of time to install XFCE 4.18 via the setup-desktop script, all you had to do was uncomment the repositories. Not hard at all.
15 • Ubuntu Cinnamon (by RetiredIT on 2023-04-03 14:42:15 GMT from United States)
Ubuntu can add all the desktops they want. I used Ubuntu from 2006 on until they and their derivative family became irrelevant to me in 2011 with the introduction of the notorious Unity desktop. What followed has been year after year of buggy distros in the Ubuntu family. So I switched to Mint in 2012 and then to MX Linux in 2020 which I am currently using.
16 • Linux Mint vs Ubuntu Cinnamon (by Friar Tux on 2023-04-03 17:04:25 GMT from Canada)
@3 (Pumpino) For me, it's Mint. Even though it may be a version or two behind, I find Mint is an improved version of Ubuntu. I once read a comment that goes like this, "Mint improved Ubuntu, which improved Debian." I kind of believe it. I tested all three and where I had issues with Debian and Ubuntu, in the six years I have, daily, run Mint, I have never, ever had an issue. (With Mint 21.1, it appears they have stopped using Metacity and are using GTK to decorate their apps. While this is not an issue, it does means I had to redo the actual gtk.css file to my liking. But, it worked out so no issues with issues.)
17 • Where I run Alpine (by alpinist on 2023-04-03 18:02:26 GMT from Switzerland)
I voted "Desktop/Laptop" because it was the least incorrect answer, but I actually run Alpine on my phone. It's a PinePhone running postmarketOS (an Alpine derivative for phones and tablets).
18 • Alpine doesn't support DNS-over-TCP (by RetiredBloke on 2023-04-03 18:46:46 GMT from United States)
I tried out Alpine Linux on the desktop a few weeks ago, and found that it worked pretty well except I couldn't connect to my wireless printer. I tried setting up name resolution in etc/nsswitch.conf like I do with Arch and other distros, but that didn't work. I did some research and found that Musl doesn't yet support DNS-over-TCP. Most distros use Glibc, so I never ran into this problem before. I've used Void Linux successfully, but with Void you can select either Musl or Glibc and I selected Glibc. I hope Alpine will eventually add support for DNS-over-TCP in a future Musc release. It's a fine distro otherwise and as other folks have pointed out, it is really fast.
19 • Printing man pages (by Martin on 2023-04-03 19:39:34 GMT from United Kingdom)
Thank you Jesse for this article, it is something I have been exploring recently as I find a printed version of a man command easier to reference when my failing memory needs refreshing on the options. Your work is much appreciated.
20 • Cinnamons Everywhere (by joncr on 2023-04-03 20:10:34 GMT from United States)
Ubuntu Cinnamon is to Mint's Cinnamon as Mint's XFCE is to Xubuntu. Ditto Mate. The rational way to choose one or the other is which collection of default apps you might prefer (every package on one can be installed on the other) and kernel preference (as customary, new hardware user might finr Ubuntu's 6.2 kernel a happier experience than Mint's 5.19, made available after an install.)
21 • Debian Testing w/ Cinnamon (by Jimbo on 2023-04-04 04:19:35 GMT from New Zealand)
I'm using Debian Testing w/ Cinnamon desktop on all my machines including TV. Works great and uses recent software.
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/bookworm_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/
22 • Endeavour Os April Fools (by Dasher on 2023-04-04 07:20:07 GMT from United Kingdom)
I dont think one should publish April fools as news in a newsletter like this. Publishing on the first of April is OK, but in this weekly newsletter is not OK.
23 • Alpine Linux, Mint... (by Vukota on 2023-04-04 13:08:12 GMT from Serbia)
Alpine is nice for being small, but that is where "nice" ends. Using it for production Docker container, I can just tell you good luck! Mixing latest unstable (non main) repos with stable (main) is recipe for hell and I've seen it in many base production Docker images. Basing everything on half baked musl is another recipe for hell. You are not going to see that something doesn't work until customers comes back screaming. Switch to any other major distro, same code, everything just works, no urgent calls from customers.
Ubuntu Cinnamon vs Mint Cinnamon - Mint is Ubuntu done right (or more likely patched to work right).
24 • @18 (by Justin on 2023-04-04 15:25:05 GMT from United States)
It seems DNS-over-TCP support has been added to musl and is pending a release to Alpine: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/tsc/-/issues/43
Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with the C standard library? I didn't know the standard library did so much. I thought other libraries would do higher level functions like this but maybe I'm wrong.
25 • @24 (by Vukota on 2023-04-04 17:46:59 GMT from Serbia)
Yes, many applications, frameworks and even languages are using C standard libraries beneath (you are even not going to know what/when/where), and those tiny differences are making other higher stuff to fail. Maybe one day, they will be the same, but in the meantime, I don't want to be a beta tester in production.
26 • @24 (by Head_on_a_Stick on 2023-04-05 05:17:30 GMT from United Kingdom)
See nsswitch.conf(5).
27 • QnA man pages as text (by jonathon on 2023-04-05 22:30:38 GMT from Australia)
Thank you for a great Q and A. I am not sure why I hadn't looked it up before, my previous method to copying a manpage as a text file was choosing the smallest font size in my terminal, maximising vertically, selecting all and copying each page.
Motivated by the QnA today I find another (@2) easy method
man -E=UTF-8 man > man-manpage.txt
(also available, ascii, latin1, or utf8)
28 • Ubuntu Desktops (by penguinx86 on 2023-04-06 02:22:11 GMT from United States)
I welcome any version of Ubuntu that does not use Gnome 3/Gnome Shell, the Activities Overlay and the Dock permanently stuck on the left side of the screen. In my opinion, Ubuntu really screwed up big time when they introduced these features in Ubuntu 12.04. That's why I switched to Linux Mint with MATE or Xfce instead of Ubuntu.
29 • Docks (by JJ Ellis on 2023-04-06 14:33:12 GMT from United States)
".. Dock permanently stuck on the left side of the screen"
Then you have Mint's Dock permanently stuck on the bottom of the screen. :)
Easy enough to move the dock to the right, left, top, bottom, or not at all.
30 • Ubuntu/Mint (by Friar Tux on 2023-04-06 14:50:41 GMT from Canada)
@28 (Penguinx86) I totally agree, though I prefer Mint/Cinnamon because of Cinnamon's applets and Desklets which I use quite a bit. Also, for me, Mint's taskbar setup matches my muscle memory after using that setup for years - as far back as Windows 3.11.
@29 (JJ Ellis) Not sure what you mean about Mint's dock struck permanently at the bottom. You can move it anywhere you want with a few clicks of a button. In fact, I have two - one at the top and one at the bottom - but I can move them to the left and right if I wish.
31 • Alpine (by Stefan on 2023-04-06 18:24:48 GMT from United States)
Haven't ever looked into Alpine. I've made Debian a crutch of my life for almost the last 20 years. No negative toward Alpine.
32 • Ubuntu/Mint (by El Kabong on 2023-04-07 04:46:22 GMT from United States)
@28, 29, 30, By all means use the DE you prefer, but it's not necessary to make incorrect pronouncements about alternative DEs. Neither Cinnamon nor Ubuntu Gnome have a dock or panel stuck anywhere. Right now I'm running Ubuntu and Kubuntu both with a panel on the left and plank dock at the bottom. It's my preferred setup. You'd have to look twice to tell one from the other.
I prefer Gnome or KDE because both are more configurable than Cinnamon, XFCE or others. (For those who believe that Gnome is only to be used as provided, try Gnome-tweaks and extensions.) I could use Linux Mint but I find Cinnamon too inflexible. Others may differ, and that's okay. Whatever suits you. Desklets do nothing for me, since I prefer a clean desktop. If I should change my mind, KDE offers lots of widgets, and bot KDE and Gnome can be configured to fit just about anyone's "muscle memory".
33 • Gnome Vs. Cinnamon & KDE (by M.Z. on 2023-04-07 20:58:15 GMT from United States)
@32 '... try Gnome-tweaks and extensions.'
The odd bit about that is that tweaks is really a community hack layered on top of Gnome, which is generally far more locked down than Cinnamon by default. Add to that the fact that many community extensions were explicitly expected to break during various parts of the Gnome 3- current development cycle & I'd argue that users should generally be a bit weary of using something like Gnome-tweaks if they really want a stable, consistent & easy to modify desktop. It's not that it can't be done, but the fact that they broke Mint Gnome Shell Extensions enough that the Mint team gave up & decided to make a whole new desktop says a lot to me about the priorities of Gnome. It also says not only how much work they might still be creating for those that make things like Gnome-tweaks, but also how more problems might still result.
Basically if you want a solid amount of flexibility out of the box both Cinnamon & XFCE are very solid choices & I'd argue better than Windows or default Gnome. Of course if you want lots of customization options, nothing beats KDE for the built in amount of flexibility or tweak-ability you can get. For Gnome there are options but they way they once seemed to say they wanted to break things between releases so as to bring users to their vision of a default desktop makes me not want to bother. Also for general PC users & ex-MS users the defaults most Distros use in both KDE & Cinnamon are a massive time saver.
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