DistroWatch Weekly |
DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 973, 20 June 2022 |
Welcome to this year's 25th issue of DistroWatch Weekly!
A little over a week ago the openSUSE team published a new version of the distribution's Leap branch. This branch shares code with SUSE Linux Enterprise and provides a stable, general purpose distribution free of charge. In this week's Feature Story we take openSUSE's latest Leap for a test drive and report on the experience. Alongside Leap openSUSE also supplies Tumbleweed, a rolling release platform. Let us know which of these two editions, Leap or Tumbleweed, you like better in our Opinion Poll. In the News section this week we talk about progress being made in multiple corners of the FreeBSD project. Meanwhile Canonical has published a new version of Ubuntu Core which offers an optional real-time kernel. We also share some changes we're making to our TrueNAS information page. Then, in our Questions and Answers column, we talk about finding and collecting install media for Linux distributions. There are a lot of distributions and many of them offer multiple editions so collecting them all can be quite a challenge. We talk about some of the options and barriers for collecting install media below. Plus we are pleased to share the releases of the past week and list the torrents we are seeding. We wish you all a wonderful week and happy reading!
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Feature Story (by Jesse Smith) |
openSUSE 15.4 Leap
The openSUSE team published a new version of their distribution about a week ago. The new release, openSUSE 15.4 Leap, shares its code base with SUSE Linux Enterprise. The new release offers a number of specialized features, particularly with tools focused on AI projects, machine learning, and setting up git repositories. The distribution also ships with tools for hospitals via GNU Health, and offers version 5.14 of the Linux kernel. Several desktop environment are packaged for openSUSE, including KDE Plasma 5.24, Xfce 4.16, GNOME 41, MATE 1.26, and Deepin 20.3. I also found it interesting the distribution offers a copy of the DNF package manager which can be used in place of openSUSE's Zypper. The DNF utility reportedly doesn't have any repositories enabled by default, but the project offers documentation on how to switch from Zypper to DNF.
The openSUSE release announcement also talks about how driver and codec support has been improved:
This version of Leap simplifies multimedia codec installation. Progress has been made to bring Cisco's openh264 video codecs to users via a repository present by default on the system, which will come in a maintenance update. The release not only gains multimedia improvements; it gains open source driver support. Besides AMD's and Intel's continual open source Linux graphics drivers commitment, users of modern NVIDIA GPUs will benefit from it signing firmware images for the latest generation GeForce 30 series GPUs.
openSUSE is available in builds for x86_64, aarch64, ppc64le, and s390x architectures. The two main editions are a full DVD edition which is 3.8GB in size and a net-install edition which is a 173MB download. I decided to download the full DVD for x86_64 computers.
When booting from the DVD we are presented with a menu which offers to launch the distribution's system installer or check the integrity of the media. When performing the media check the system will launch the installer, assuming the check passes.
Installer
openSUSE uses a graphical system installer which begins by showing us the project's license agreement. On this page we can change the system language and our keyboard layout. The installer then asks if we would like to enable on-line repositories to provide access to newer (and extra) packages. I enabled on-line repositories.
The installer then asks us to select a role. Roles are predefined groups of packages, each suited to a particular environment. Available roles include Desktop with KDE, Desktop with GNOME, Desktop with Xfce, "Generic Desktop", Server, and Transactional Server. The last item is a server platform with a read-only root filesystem. I decided to try the first option: Desktop with KDE.
Disk partitioning comes next. While it is possible to perform manual partitioning, and access a wide range of options and filesystem choices, openSUSE's guided option is unusually flexible. The guided choice lets us toggle options on/off, such as whether we want to use Btrfs or LVM, whether we want a larger swap partition to support hibernation, and whether we want to use a separate /home partition. I opted to use Btrfs with a separate swap partition. We then select our time zone from a map and make up a username and password for a new user. The user account creation page is an optional step.
The last page of the installer shows us a summary of all actions it will take, including the disk layout, default services, firewall configuration, and user accounts. We can click links next to options in order to bring up a screen to adjust the settings. This summary screen with quick links is my favourite aspect of the installer. It allows the installer to be mostly streamlined and uncluttered while also giving us optional access to a wide range of customizations.
Once the installer finished its work it restarted the computer.
Early impressions
My new copy of openSUSE booted to a graphical login screen. I was given the chance to login to KDE Plasma running on X11 or KDE Plasma running on a Wayland session. The former is the default. I appreciated this as my recent experiences with Wayland sessions have had various problems and it was nice to see openSUSE taking the more conservative approach and still using X11 as the default.
openSUSE 15.4 -- The welcome window
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The KDE Plasma desktop is presented with the panel placed across the bottom of the screen. This panel holds the application menu, some quick-launch buttons, and the system tray. The application menu is arranged with software categories on the left and launchers on the right.
When first signing into my account I was presented with a welcome window. This window provides some links on openSUSE's social media and support options. We're also told how to find community software repositories and documentation. Links are opened in the Firefox web browser.
One of the links in the welcome window I found particularly interesting, it's called Get Software. Clicking this button opens Firefox to display an on-line software centre. The layout is similar to other software centres such as GNOME Software. From the first web page we can browse categories of software and click items we find interesting. Clicking an entry opens a full page description with a screenshot. We can then click a button to install the selected package. Clicking the install button offers to open the local software manager which is Discover, in my case.
openSUSE 15.4 -- The Discover software centre
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Once Discover has been opened it displays information on the same application we were looking at on the website. We can click a button and enter our password to install the package. Once it has been installed, we can click a button to launch the newly fetched application. Well, most of the time we can launch the new application. Some items I installed could be launched from Discover, others failed to run unless I launched them from the application menu or from a terminal.
This process - the welcome window opening a web-based software centre, which can be used to open Discover, which can install software - works. It's all quite easy to navigate and functional. What I find strange though is the Get Software button in the welcome screen opens a web page which opens the local software centre. It seems like it would be easier and faster for the welcome window to simply open Discover directly and save us a few steps. I think web-based software stores can be useful, it just seems redundant in this situation.
Hardware support
I ran openSUSE in VirtualBox and on my laptop. The distribution was pleasantly responsive, I might even say unusually responsive, in both environments. The system doesn't present many visual effects or distractions, which I appreciate. My laptop's hardware was all detected and the system ran smoothly.
When running in VirtualBox, the KDE Plasma desktop integrated with the host desktop and I could resize the Plasma desktop by resizing the VirtualBox window.
A fresh install of openSUSE with Plasma consumed about 6GB of disk space, plus a swap partition. Disk usage will depend on the role we select at install time, but the base system with any of the main three desktop environments should be in the 6GB range. When I first signed into Plasma the system usually used about 490MB of RAM. This grew a little for the first few minutes, up to about 550MB, and then settled back down to about 530MB. There wasn't any notable amount of network activity or disk access during this time. I didn't spend the time to track down which processes were slowly expanding and deflating in RAM, but at its highest point memory usage was still under 550MB, relatively light by modern standards.
Live media
On the openSUSE download page there is a section for alternative media, including live desktop media. This allows us to test drive openSUSE with desktops such as KDE Plasma and GNOME without installing the distribution. The download page includes an unusual warning about the live media:
They should not be used to install or upgrade. Please use the installation media instead. They have a limited package and driver selection, so cannot be considered an accurate reflection as to whether the distribution will work on your hardware or not.
This is strange for two reasons. One is that the live media includes both Install and Upgrade icons on the desktop. It seems strange for the developers to tell people not to use the live media for installs and upgrades and then explicitly put icons on the desktop to perform those actions.
The other, more pressing issue is the comment about how the live media doesn't include the same drivers and therefore isn't a good test to see if our hardware will work well with the operating system. This negates the main purpose of live desktop media. Apart from possible rescue operations, the main reason to have live media is to test hardware compatibility prior to installing a distribution.
The warning is correct though. While openSUSE ran well for me when installed from the official DVD media and offered better than normal performance, the distribution's live KDE media worked terribly. It took around three minutes to boot and another minute to finish loading the desktop environment. Audio failed to work when running from the live media. The system load was always high and the desktop always sluggish. With only a virtual terminal window open, running top, the system showed almost no disk or CPU activity and yet the load average stayed above 2.50 without a break. The interface was slow to respond with opening the application menu or resizing a window taking several seconds.
Usually, in my experience, most distributions perform about as well from live media as they do when installed locally - giving some wiggle room for loading applications from the slower boot media. But running openSUSE's live media was the night to the installed version's day and made me wonder how the developers got the experience so wrong on the live disc compared next to the install media.
Included software
A fresh install of openSUSE includes the Firefox web browser, LibreOffice, the VLC media player (missing some codecs), a file manager (Dolphin, in my case), a document viewer, a few games, and Java. There are also some desktop-specific applications to monitor the system and adjust settings. In the background we find the systemd init software and version 5.14 of the Linux kernel.
openSUSE 15.4 -- The Plasma application menu
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As I mentioned, a media player is installed and openSUSE does ship with most audio codecs, but it is unable to play common video formats. One of the listed features of the 15.4 release was easier access to media codecs and a look through the openSUSE documentation provides a page on installing these codecs. There are a few options of varying degrees of manual involvement that include setting up a community package repository and fetching the missing codecs. The easiest approach I found was to install a package called opi and then run the command "opi codecs" from the command line. This will add the Packman repository for us and then offer to fetch popular codecs. This works, though it involves a few pauses along the way - we are prompted once to confirm we trust the Packman repository key and then three more times to confirm we really want to install the new media packages. The process, while a bit involved, did work for me and I was able to then play both audio and video files.
Also on the topic of included software, if we try to run a command line program that doesn't exist, the system will politely suggest we run another utility called cnf to find out if the program is available. For instance, running "cnf gcc" tells us we can run "sudo zypper install gcc" to install the missing compiler.
Something which kept coming up as I explored the included software was a lot of actions - such as opening a web browser, connecting my laptop to wireless networks, and anything else involving credentials - would cause the KDE Wallet application to appear and demand I use it for handling my credentials. Sometimes I could merely cancel this window and it would go away, but I was blocked entirely from using some programs if I didn't set up KDE Wallet. This is really frustrating as it regularly nags the user to set up software which is vague about what it is doing and cryptic in its options.
YaST
One of the core features of openSUSE is its YaST control panel. YaST provides a central, graphical series of modules for managing the operating system. Through the YaST panel we can manage software packages, updates, and repositories. We can adjust sound settings, change the keyboard layout, set up printers, and manage user accounts. We can also manage disk partitions, set up network shares, adjust the firewall, and enable network proxies. There is a module for browsing the systemd journal, and another for browsing and restoring filesystem snapshots.
openSUSE 15.4 -- Browsing the YaST control panel
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This last point is key. Whenever we use YaST to change settings or install new packages, the system automatically creates a new Btrfs snapshot. (This assumes we installed openSUSE on a Btrfs volume.) We can browse snapshots and compare them with other snapshots using a tool called Snapper. We can also boot into a past snapshot from the boot menu. This means we can easily compare files between snapshots to see when adjusting a setting or upgrading a package broke something. We can also rollback the change. Since we can access and boot old snapshots from the boot menu, this makes openSUSE virtually bullet proof, short of a hardware failure.
openSUSE 15.4 -- Browsing filesystem snapshots
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YaST is one of my favourite utilities in the Linux community - most of its components are friendly, it automates snapshots allowing us to rollback changes, and it handles low level changes in a nice, point-n-click interface. I especially like the user manager which, while simple by default, offers extra tabs where we can fine-tune settings and permissions.
Some of the YaST modules may be more complex than they need to be for most users. The firewall utility, for example, focuses heavily on zones which will be overkill for most users and there isn't any simplified version of the tool for just blocking or opening a specific port. The YaST software manager is also a bit complex, but it's nicely balanced by the simplified Discover software centre.
Something I noticed while using the Services module in YaST is it will queue up the changes we want to make and then apply them all at once. For example, if I tell the utility to stop CUPS and enable OpenSSH, these services won't be adjusted until I click the Apply button or exit the utility. Usually service managers apply changes right away. This isn't good or bad, just different from how most distributions handle things.
openSUSE 15.4 -- The KDE System Settings panel
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While YaST handles low-level operating system configuration, customising the desktop is handled by KDE's System Settings panel. The System Settings panel is detailed and has many modules for tweaking KDE. Luckily, the panel includes a search function to help us find specific settings. I quite like the System Settings utility and find it's a great way to adjust Plasma to better suit my workflow.
Conclusions
openSUSE is a project which almost always impresses me with its technology, its integration, and its flexibility. However, it's never a distribution I've run as my main operating system for various reasons. One of the main reasons I haven't fully embraced openSUSE, despite its many technological capabilities, is its inconsistent polish. Some aspect of the operating system are polished and developed to near perfection. The installer is both fairly easy to navigate and surprisingly flexible. The default Btr filesystem is powerful and its snapshots easy to use. The YaST control panel is remarkably good at adjusting low level aspects of the operating system and integrates nicely with Btrfs.
However, on the other side of things, we have issues like the KDE Wallet utility nagging the user and displaying vague prompts about which cryptography functions to use. The live media offers a different and quite less appealing experience than the installed operating system, and (despite the progress in this arena) the documented steps to install media codecs are still some of the most complex in the Linux ecosystem.
openSUSE 15.4 feels like a distribution by system administrators for administrators. We can set up a printer and rollback filesystem snapshots with a few clicks of the mouse, but installing video codecs is a two-commands-and-four-prompts command line process. Managing services and setting up network shares takes just a few clicks, but getting sound working on the live disc was an exercise in frustration. openSUSE is a distribution which makes a lot of usually hard tasks easy and the normally easy tasks hard.
In short, some parts of openSUSE feel like the Iron Man nanotech suit and some parts feel like they were built in a cave. The former parts definitely outweigh the latter, but the little issues are what separate a good, solid distribution from a great experience.
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Hardware used in this review
My physical test equipment for this review was an HP DY2048CA laptop with the following
specifications:
- Processor: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz
- Display: Intel integrated video
- Storage: Western Digital 512GB solid state drive
- Memory: 8GB of RAM
- Wireless network device: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT Wireless network card
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Visitor supplied rating
openSUSE has a visitor supplied average rating of: 8.7/10 from 436 review(s).
Have you used openSUSE? You can leave your own review of the project on our ratings page.
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Miscellaneous News (by Jesse Smith) |
FreeBSD publishes status report, Ubuntu Core 22 released with real-time kernel, updates to TrueNAS
The FreeBSD team have published a status update which provides an overview of work going into the operating system. Several of the key updates involve getting FreeBSD to work better on new hardware, including RISC-V processors and Framework laptops. Efforts are being made to reduce boot times and several developers are also working on wireless networking support. One interesting project looks at using Linux to broaden wireless support on FreeBSD: "Wifibox is an experimental project for exploring the ways of deploying a virtualized Linux guest to drive wireless networking cards on the FreeBSD host system. There have been guides on the Internet to suggest the use of such techniques to improve the wireless networking experience, of which Wifibox aims to implement as a single easy-to-use software package." Details on Wifibox and other efforts can be found in FreeBSD's quarterly status report.
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Canonical has announced the release of Ubuntu Core 22, an embedded operating system with support for Snap packages intended to be used for embedded systems, robotics, and industrial settings. One of the key features being tested in version 22 is a real-time kernel. "The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS real-time kernel, now available in beta, delivers high performance, ultra-low latency and workload predictability for time-sensitive industrial, telco, automotive and robotics use cases. The new release includes a fully preemptible kernel to ensure time-bound responses. Canonical partners with silicon and hardware manufacturers to enable advanced real-time features out of the box on Ubuntu Certified Hardware." Further information on Ubuntu Core 22 is presented in the company's announcement.
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People who are fans of network attached storage (NAS) technologies are probably familiar with the name FreeNAS. The FreeNAS project was a dedicated NAS operating system based on FreeBSD and sponsored by iXsystems. As the name implies, FreeNAS was available to the public free of charge. People who wanted a commercially backed storage solution could explore a similar product from iXsystems called TrueNAS.
A little while back FreeNAS changed its name to TrueNAS Core and more closely joined its cousin under the iXsystems umbrella. The brand and product line have continued to evolve and now there are three branches of TrueNAS: Core, Enterprise (which offers commercial support), and SCALE for multi-node deployments.
In an effort to keep track of each of these branches without adding confusion, we've merged all of the TrueNAS product family into one page. This page includes the historical information for FreeNAS along with current information on the three TrueNAS editions.
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These and other news stories can be found on our Headlines page.
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Questions and Answers (by Jesse Smith) |
Collecting distro ISO files
Got-to-catch-them-all asks: Is there any software, script or website where you can easily check the newest ISOs of Linux and Windows?
I have a folder with operating system images, divided by those that I'd like to keep up-to-date and another that is for some collectionary value or doesn't update at all (Windows versions, last version of Kali with GNOME). However it gets messy to keep up with (rolling releases, delays, different desktops) so I'd like to have an automatic way of checking my downloaded ISOs with some on-line database.
If there isn't anything as such, does DistroWatch have some public API that could be used for that? I could try to make some basic JavaScript website that allows you to pick ISOs that you have downloaded and then compare them with the DistroWatch database. Nothing fancy, just if it's the newest or not. You could make it more advanced by marking major versions or different desktop environments, but I'd be satisfied with something simple.
DistroWatch answers: The short answer is no, there isn't (to my knowledge) anything like that which will test a collection of local ISO files against a database of existing (including past) releases to see if any versions are missing or should be downloaded.
We don't track this sort of information, really. That is, we don't track a list of existing ISOs or host any ISOs on DistroWatch. We also don't have any public API. The closest thing we have is a collection of version numbers for each distribution on each project's information page, which you could (in theory) compare to ISO files you have downloaded. However, a lot of distros do not use consistent filenames. This makes scripting any sort of comparison with version numbers difficult.
You might be able to write a script that extracts the version number of a distro from its filename and then compare it to our latest version information on the distro's info page. However, it would be an imperfect solution and require a lot of bandwidth/scraping to make work. In theory you could also check the release announcements for each distribution on its information page and scan the announcement for a filename that includes an ISO or IMG extension. However, that's a lot of scanning and parsing for what will be an imperfect solution.
I think a better approach would be to subscribe to our Latest Distributions RSS feed. This will provide you with a list of new ISO files as they become available. Then you can download each new item as it is published. Some RSS clients will even do most of the work for you. This won't keep you up to speed with past versions, but it'll keep you updated on new versions going forward which will get added to your collection. You can also check the download mirrors of projects that interest you as many of them keep archives of past releases.
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Additional answers can be found in our Questions and Answers archive.
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IPFire 2.27 Core 168
The IPFire team have published a new update to their security and firewall focused distribution. A key update affects the project's intrusion prevention system (IPS): "Stefan contributed a patch series for notably improving the IPS, particularly when it comes to handling of ruleset providers. While many of the changes are done under the hood, the following are visible to the web interface: Monitoring mode can now be enabled for each ruleset provider individually. This makes baselining and testing much less of a hassle, since newly introduced IPS ruleset providers can now first be used for logging only, without risking disruptions or unintended side-effects. Parsing and restructuring changed or updated rulesets has been improved and is now faster by orders of magnitude. The downloader will now automatically check whether a ruleset has been updated on its providers' server by checking the ETag HTTP header. This allows us to drop the update interval selection; every IPS ruleset will now updated automatically on the appropriate interval." Additional details can be found in the project's release announcement.
Kaisen Linux 2.1
Kevin Chevreuil has announced the release of Kaisen Linux 2.1. Kaisen Linux is a rolling-release, Debian-based desktop distribution. The project aims to be useful for IT professionals. The new release includes several technical changes and some visual ones. For instance, Kaisen 2.1 swaps out the default zsh shell for bash and drops the themed Conky desktop widget. "ZSH is no longer the default terminal for Kaisen Linux! It was since the first release of Kaisen Linux the default terminal, but the majority of users asked for the return of Bash by default, which has been done on this release. Several polls on the different social network pages have been done for this. However, it is still installed as it was before (with oh-my-zsh), and it is possible to reset it to the default. The documentation is here: ZSH on Kaisen Linux. The Conky theme is no longer installed by default with the GUIs, but is a separate package named kaisen-conky, which is no longer installed by default. The reason for this is that user feedback was not unanimous about the default presence of Conky on Kaisen Linux and therefore it is now considered a 'goodie' and can be installed optionally." The full list of changes can be found in the release announcement.
Kaisen Linux 2.1 -- Running the MATE desktop
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EuroLinux 9.0
EuroLinux is a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. The project's latest release is EuroLinux 9.0 which will be supported through to June 2032. "We released version 9.0 of the EuroLinux operating system. It is compatible with the latest upstream release. This release focuses on providing improved default cryptographic policies, a 5.14 kernel, a graphical management interface via a web panel, and improvements related to cloud, virtualization and containerization. "Nine" also introduces a major update in the form of the GNOME 40 desktop environment (with modern GTK 4). An important change for those who want to use EuroLinux on x86_64 architecture, is the need to have a processor supporting x86_64-v2 microarchitecture (also on virtual machines). Since version 8.3, the EuroLinux operating system is offered in an Open Core model - both as a paid subscription and free of charge. Customers and the community get access to the software at the same time, in the same version and in the same repositories. The paid subscription additionally provides: manufacturer's technical support, access to errata files, access to additional intermediate packages, the possibility to influence product development." Further information is provided in the distribution's release announcement and release notes.
GhostBSD 22.06.15
The GhostBSD project develops a desktop operating system based on FreeBSD. The project's latest snapshot is GhostBSD 22.06.15 which includes better handling of NVIDIA drivers and smoothly upgrade processes. "Some of the improvements are automation on the livecd to install the proper Nvidia driver, and when a package fails to upgrade, Update Station will reinstall it and resume the update. I have added the BWN_GPL_PHY option in our default GENERIC kernel to compile drivers that include GPLv2 code. Now, most Broadcom devices are detected, including my iMac. In most cases bwn_v4_ucode_load="YES" or bwn_v4_lp_ucode_load="YES" need to be added in /boot/loader.conf. In addition, GhostBSD was upgraded to 13.1-STABLE from 22/05/31. Features added: Do not show updates available when packages are syncing. Add a file called syncing when new packages are syncing and remove it when completed. Add code to update-station read if syncing is in the repository and do not prompt users for upgrades. Add code to software-station to not allow software installation with software-station during a packages sync." Additional details can be found in the project's release announcement.
Manjaro Linux 21.3.0
Philip Müller has announced the release of Manjaro Linux 21.3.0, the latest stable version of the project's rolling-release distribution offering a choice of KDE Plasma, Xfce and GNOME desktops. This release features version 3.2 of the Calamares installer. "Manjaro 21.3.0 'Ruah' released. Since we released 'Qonos' at the end of last year, our developer team worked hard to get the next release of Manjaro out there. We call it 'Ruah'. This release features the final release of Calamares 3.2. Partition module gained more support for LUKS partitions. Users module now has lists of forbidden login names and host names, to avoid settings that will mess up the install. The GNOME edition has received a major update to GNOME 42. A new global dark user interface style preference has arrived. This can be used to request that apps use a dark user interface style instead of light. The new setting can be found in the new Appearance panel in the Settings app, and is followed by most GNOME apps." Continue to the release announcement for further information.
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Development, unannounced and minor bug-fix releases
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Torrent Corner |
Weekly Torrents
The table below provides a list of torrents DistroWatch is currently seeding. If you do not have a bittorrent client capable of handling the linked files, we suggest installing either the Transmission or KTorrent bittorrent clients.
Archives of our previously seeded torrents may be found in our Torrent Archive. We also maintain a Torrents RSS feed for people who wish to have open source torrents delivered to them. To share your own open source torrents of Linux and BSD projects, please visit our Upload Torrents page.
Torrent Corner statistics:
- Total torrents seeded: 2,735
- Total data uploaded: 42.1TB
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Upcoming Releases and Announcements |
Summary of expected upcoming releases
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Opinion Poll (by Jesse Smith) |
openSUSE Leap or Tumbleweed?
This week we shared observations on openSUSE Leap, the project's stable edition. The openSUSE project has another edition, Tumbleweed, which provides a rolling release model for people who want to be on the cutting edge of software features. Have you used either of openSUSE's editions? Let us know your preference - Leap's stable approach or Tumbleweed's rolling nature.
You can see the results of our previous poll on running a rolling Ubuntu release in last week's edition. All previous poll results can be found in our poll archives.
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openSUSE Leap or Tumbleweed?
Leap: | 346 (19%) |
Tumbleweed: | 508 (29%) |
I like both: | 178 (10%) |
I have not used either: | 748 (42%) |
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Website News |
New distributions added to waiting list
- CROWZ. CROWZ is a Devuan-based desktop distribution which features a variety of lightweight window managers. Editions of CROWZ ship with Fluxbox, Openbox, and JWM.
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DistroWatch database summary
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This concludes this week's issue of DistroWatch Weekly. The next instalment will be published on Monday, 27 June 2022. Past articles and reviews can be found through our Article Search page. To contact the authors please send e-mail to:
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1 • OpenSUSE live edition (by Brad on 2022-06-20 00:40:57 GMT from United States)
I don't know how far back this issue goes, but I tried the live edition a few times over the years, and found it wanting - since I wanted to "try" before "buying", I never went beyond triyng, thinking that the installed version would be just as bad.
I guess that means I never took the "Leap"...
2 • OpenSUSE (by Cameron Mitchell on 2022-06-20 01:03:07 GMT from Argentina)
Leap 15.4 es un sistema estable. Ahora le han sacado los drivers con firmware y hay que dar alguna vuelta para instalarlos. Tumbleweed era un buen sistema hasta que llegó Gnome 42. Ahora tiene fallas todo el tiempo especialmente con los drivers de video. Esto lo ha vuelto una beta muy inestable e inmanejable. Pese a lo que diga el responsable del proyecto, me parece que no está haciendo su trabajo como corresponde porque le delega su responsabilidad al usuario. Así cualquiera escribe un blog semanal.
3 • YaST (by Friar Tux on 2022-06-20 01:18:14 GMT from Canada)
I have tried openSUSE many, many, many times over the years, but have never been able to get YaST to work on my HP brand laptops - ever. In fact, any distro that runs YaST has acted the same as openSUSE. YaST will always simply quit/stop working whenever I try to install an app/program, or try to update the OS, consistently, regardless of the OS. So I had to vote "I have not used either." Pity. OpenSUSE looks like it might be really good.
4 • Leap & Tumbleweed (by pongo on 2022-06-20 01:30:00 GMT from United States)
To install missing codecs in either openSUSE version just go to www.opensuse-community.org and do the one-click installs. No CLI work needed at all! Opi is a good thing if the CLI is your pleasure.
I've been using Tumbleweed with btrfs for several years now and have had very few problems and have only had to roll back once. I don't use the nvidia drivers because I have a moral scruple about killing space aliens and enemy soldiers and do no video editing and only very simple photo editing; the nouveau driver works well for me. The nvida drivers seem to cause problems for people with older cards because of the frequent new kernels you get with TW. That said, neither version of SUSE is the best choice for beginners or casual users; they take a little more work to set up and maintain but give power, control and reliability.
Another virtue of openSUSE is the active and helpful mail lists -- I loathe web forums.
I also use Siduction (Debian sid unstable) on the same machine to keep my hand in with the Debian world. Very few problems there either.
I do have a backup machine with the much more conservative openSUSE Leap installed in case of total failure of Tumbleweed and Siduction but this has yet to happen
5 • Opensuse-Tumbleweed (by Sam Crawford on 2022-06-20 01:42:17 GMT from United States)
I've been running Tumbleweed with the mate desktop for a few months and have not had any issues at all, once configured. The toughest part was getting VueScan to work. Google and some trial and error with the firewall finally got it to work.
This week OpenSuse Tumbleeed changed it's build number and tumbleweed downloaded and installed almost 2,000 updates.
I only have two complaints. The first is the mirrors are slow, at least here in Idaho, in the USA, where downloads are measured in kbs vs. the downloads I get from some Debian mirrors that are coming in at 60-80 mbs. I'm sure there are faster repositories but I haven't put the effort into finding them.
The other complaint is trhe way Opensuse does disk encryption. The encrypt the whole disk so that I have to enter a password to get to grub and the same password again to unencrypt my system. It takes a long time from the first password to get into grub. They argue it is more secure but the way Debian and LinuxMint does it where access to grub is unencrypted and then enter a password to get into the system is way more convenient.
6 • One-click install (by Jesse on 2022-06-20 02:14:46 GMT from Canada)
@5: "To install missing codecs in either openSUSE version just go to www.opensuse-community.org and do the one-click installs. No CLI work needed at all! "
I've tried this is most previous versions of openSUSE. It's never worked properly. Which is probably why it's not an official method for installing media codecs.
7 • YaST (by Joseph on 2022-06-20 03:26:46 GMT from United States)
@3: I've got Tumbleweed running on my 78yo mother's HP Spectre laptop without any problems for a few years now.
8 • Q&A - Collecting distro ISO files (by Greg Zeng on 2022-06-20 04:28:00 GMT from Australia)
As usual, this is one of the most interesting parts of Distrowatch. The short answer to the question: daily publications of DISTROWATCH are currently the best way to monitor the Linux and BSD operating systems.
The long answer requires many additional resources. Some websites are slowly trying to "improve" from the Distrowatch notifications, but generally fail. The "failures" happen because the publishers of the new operating systems do not care much about informing the public. These coders are too busy coding to be proper publishers explaining their new releases, in a context understood by outsiders.
Reading their internal dialog is the best & often only way to try understanding these changes. These open source publishers need a competent publishing department: "The Linux Foundation", Ubuntu, the highly disorganized systems based on the RPM package managers, the BSD-based systems (including closed-source Apple), and non-business systems such as PCLOS and the "Puppy" families.
Perhaps the only known predictions in newly released operating systems are those from the Ubuntu-core base. This explains why so many system creators prefer this stable, predictable core-base, much more than any other open operating system.
Ubuntu-core has a stable base released every two years, in April. According to Distrowatch, there are 273 "Active" open operating systems right now. Not all are perhaps "open source". Only 53 are based on a version of Ubuntu. Of these, about 19 are based on Ubuntu-core-LTS, instead of the usual Ubuntu-core.
All the 53 Ubuntu based systems, and some Debian-based systems, can be "upgraded" to the very latest Linux kernel, seconds after being published as source code by "The Linux Foundation". Only a few of the 53 systems have a GUI or automated way to "upgrade" to the latest Linux official kernel. The 19 LTS systems will be too afraid to officially upgrade to the latest kernel, for fear of losing their stability with other parts and users of the operating system.
The other Linux-based systems usually their own versions of the older official Linux kernels. This allows the avoidance of certain conditions injected by Ubuntu and "The Linux Foundation". Added or removed are "systemd", binary bits, and other widened or narrowed source code, optimized for specific hardware,users, and operating conditions.
9 • openSUSE (by userX on 2022-06-20 06:36:53 GMT from Croatia)
I strongly like Leap, I strongly dislike Tumbleweed.
10 • Try OpenSUSE Leap with Xfce (by Gerhard Goetzhaber on 2022-06-20 07:57:24 GMT from Austria)
As of now, this has been my main system for daily work and "production" for many a year. If you decide to permanently go with GNU Linux you should do as well, and you'll never see yourself left alone with problems you can't find a good solution for. I'd say it's 98% perfect. Best hardware compatibility especially for peripheral devices I've ever found with a Linux system, and in this way much better up2date than all Debian and Ubuntu based editions (except Siduction - great), not lastly because of it's excellently backported kernel updates. Huge software repositories, too! Well, KDE Plasma often has a somewhat lovlier look and lets you funnily play around with it. However, there's that never-ending thing with KDE: a new version will come up everytime before the last one is made ready for really good use! Tumbleweed? Good work while racing to the future, good for experimental setups, but be aware that from time to time you'll see yourself been forced to repair or just update the system from outside - this meaning from a text-only-boot or by chrooting from another OS (if you know about practicing). Same-same Fedora Rawhide ...
11 • OpenSUSE (by Tom on 2022-06-20 08:57:09 GMT from Belgium)
I've been using it on and off for a few years, though I've recently been using other distributions.
I agree with the statement that it's somewhat uneven, and the KDE Wallet is a typical example (I'm disabling it because it's too annoying). Another one is the network configuration confusion between YaST and other tools, depending on which network system is used. Same with the DE configuration, which is confusing and messy between the themes and individual settings.
But overall it's very good. It has a very solid and user-friendly package system, nothing like the cryptic arguments of pacman or the spread of different commands for apt. The installation process is very good too, one of the best I know. The Plasma DE offers a very good experience to end users, that's usually the one I'm going for.
Be extremely careful with Btrfs, it looks powerful but is infamously unreliable with some RAID configurations. And it's very power-consuming in the default configuration, creating way more snapshots than necessary which frequently causes some devices to freeze for short periods of time. But when used well on non-RAID systems, it can save you a lot of work if you mess when upgrading the system. Personally, I don't think that it's worth the trouble though, so I'm not using it anymore.
I prefer Tumbleweed to Leap, I don't like having all the compatibility problems dumped on my system at once, I'd rather have them incrementally. Just a small personal preference.
12 • OpenSUSE Leap (by Microlinux on 2022-06-20 09:27:42 GMT from France)
OpenSUSE Leap is the best thing that's ever happened to the Linux workstation. I've been using it since 15.0 on a few dozen desktop clients.
Here's my post-install configuration file to turn a vanilla OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 installation into a full-blown Linux desktop with bells and whistles:
https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse-lp154
13 • Suse's wallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-20 10:54:06 GMT from Philippines)
I've tried both Leap and Tumbleweed, and ended up using neither, but in all fairness, KDEWallet is more of a universal nuisance. Happens often with Debian, it's spawn, and others. Last time I tried to remove it from a Debian-based distro, it threatened to bring down the whole desktop with it. So pending a forcible removal, I just fed it pap. I open the wallet app to change "login" password, and leave the new password blank.
I think the blame lies at the feet of KDE devs. My take it that they saw the annoyances caused by Gnome keyring, got jealous and wanted to go one better. Along with the creators of the "auto-complete" feature in Android keyboards, they should be confined to the nether regions, never again to see the light of day. Too harsh? Ok, maybe at least a wrist-slap.
Discover is another peeve of mine with KDE. But that's for another rant.
14 • openSUSE’s demise (by Tommi Nieminen on 2022-06-20 11:28:43 GMT from Finland)
I was sorry to hear about openSUSE Leap’s forthcoming demise: it’s been my main go-to distro for the past seven years, and there’s regrettably little competition there. Discounting the rolling releases that are too unstable and turbulent for someone who uses computers for work, and niche distros whose repos wouldn’t have all the software I need, I think there’s only Debian left (now that *buntu has that godawful Snap).
I managed to migrate three of my four computers to Debian during the past two weeks; the one remaining is a bit of an issue because it probably wouldn’t work at all without non-free firmware and possibly not well even with those. Maybe I leave it to openSUSE for the time being, and wish a new, usable general-purpose distro would emerge.
15 • how well does opensuse work with HDDs nowadays? (by mircea on 2022-06-20 11:50:43 GMT from Moldova)
In past on my laptops OpenSUSE was the only distro which made my hdd sing a lot (from 2006 till OpenSUSE 42 in 2015).
It had very weird settings related to parking hard disk heads, it parked them very ofter, so I never dared to use it.
How it is working on HDDs today ?
16 • "OpenSUSE's demise" ? (by Microlinux on 2022-06-20 11:59:40 GMT from France)
Hi,
The last Distrowatch Weekly sported a newsflash about the end of OpenSUSE Leap as we know it.
I wanted to know more about it, so I asked in the OpenSUSE forum and the OpenSUSE mailing list.
Nobody seems to know anything about it.
Care to share your source for this piece of information ?
17 • @16, openSUSE’s demise (by Tommi Nieminen on 2022-06-20 12:46:24 GMT from Finland)
Last weeks’s DistroWatch, or more specifically the reader comments section of it, together with reddit’s r/opensuse subreddit, are my sources too: it seems to be the most anyone knows or is willing to tell.
But you could turn the question upside down and think of why no one at SUSE seems willing to confirm a future, any kind of future, to Leap as is. Surely it’s because they don’t care about Leap and are unwilling to support it. It’s either a rolling release testing ground (Tumbleweed) or a container-based system that may not even have a desktop!
18 • new distrubition CROWZ (by always_courious-about-FOSS on 2022-06-20 15:05:29 GMT from Germany)
I like distributions with the concepts of simplicity and lightweight and also desktops like Openbox or JWM. So I was not averse to test the Iso Image. But the dark theme had scared me off. By the way: was there ever a opinion poll about prefer dark or light themes? I prefer absolutely light themes.
19 • Leap or TW (by Stusser on 2022-06-20 15:14:38 GMT from Germany)
There is still a lengthy discussion going on at reddit about the future of Leap, including a prominent executive at Opensuse. What I liked was that users are given another 2.5 years or so with Leap before anything new comes along. And it will. It may be that the new base called ALP (community work!) is just another base, not noticeable to the user and that's it. We will have to wait and see. Between the lines, I noticed a strong preference for Opensuse MicroOS. Maybe that's the future - I personally don't like it. A core OS with extended apps over mainly flatpaks only means that I put my trust fully in the hands of flatpaks without knowing if they were created exemplary in every respect. This has been discussed, I don't need to repeat it. Alternative: rolling releases. We also know that rolling releases have advantages and disadvantages, and those who like to continuously install the gigantic updates (and tremble), enjoy it. Admittedly, rolling releases have become more reliable. Those who prefer the traditional model will look around. I find that there are projects besides Debian that work. There is Linux Mint and of course lesser known ones like Open Mandriva or Mageia, which have great potential. Overall, I'm relaxed about it, but I don't necessarily want to participate in the update mania.
20 • Opensuse (by Robert on 2022-06-20 15:56:44 GMT from United States)
This review aligns quite closely with my past experiences with opensuse. Amazing technical infrastructure, spotty end user product.
Or as you said, it makes difficult things easy and easy things difficult.
And I too cannot stand KDE Wallet. That piece of software is one of my biggest gripes with the desktop.
21 • openSUSE (by John W on 2022-06-20 16:14:22 GMT from United States)
"openSUSE is a distribution which makes a lot of usually hard tasks easy and the normally easy tasks hard."
Now that's funny! True, but funny. Love me some openSUSE Leap!
22 • Tumbleweed and the future (by Ortysius on 2022-06-20 16:39:07 GMT from Brazil)
I've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed for 7 months, but today after an upgrade I got to break the installation. Due to circumstances I'll try to install Hackintosh on my machine, thus, replacing SUSE. But I'm willing to come back after some time, that's a great distro overall and I had a good user experience with it.
23 • Poll (by Otis on 2022-06-20 17:30:43 GMT from United States)
Well I've used both versions of Suse off and on over many years and don't like either, although I've always approached each install with high hopes. Gecko soothed much of the issues, but it also clinks and clonks at some point and is abandoned by me after a few days of hair pulling.
No poll choice for using both and not liking either.
24 • BSD Networking Support (by Otis on 2022-06-20 17:43:29 GMT from United States)
One piece of Miscellaneous News in this Week's edition caught my eye: "The FreeBSD team have published a status update which provides an overview of work going into the operating system. Several of the key updates involve getting FreeBSD to work better on new hardware, including RISC-V processors and Framework laptops. Efforts are being made to reduce boot times and several developers are also working on wireless networking support."
Wow. I mean.. a direct effort on FreeBSD's part to address one of the most frustrating things about BSD in general (for me and likely many others eager to have a BSD machine as reliable as the solid Linux distros). My hope is that this effort will influence GhostBSD and MidnightBSD at some point.
25 • A list of newest install images (by K.U. on 2022-06-20 17:51:33 GMT from Finland)
For Berryboot users, there is https://berryboot.alexgoldcheidt.com/images/
(Berryboot is needed to install and boot this kind of images.)
26 • Poll (by Robert on 2022-06-20 17:56:51 GMT from United States)
On the poll, I have a preference toward rolling releases over slow moving release cycles for my desktop. But I've had nothing but bad experiences with tumbleweed.
Leap is too old and crusty for modern desktop hardware, and I have had multiple hardware compatibility issues with it. But I am using it in the transactional configuration for my server and that has worked well.
So in the end I chose Leap, but I don't use either for desktop.
27 • openSUSE is Not for Lazy People (by MattE on 2022-06-20 22:51:51 GMT from United States)
Yes, openSUSE is good for servers, but I don't know why they insist on making storage drive encryption such a pain. Encrypting the boot partion should be an easy opt-out and I'm lazy so, no openSUSE for me.
28 • Collecting distro ISO files (by S. on 2022-06-21 00:10:25 GMT from Austria)
It's sad that it is 2022 now and there is no de facto standard for publishing machine-readable factual data. We ve got RDF, ontologies, microformats but their actual adoption is low, the Semantic Web has never truly materialized, though W3C has got all the needed technology 20+ years ago. Web developers have not got incentive from search engines (but when they demanded HTTPS, almost all the web relatively quickly adopted Let's Encrypt). The solution in the answer involves RSS, and it's one of the few widely adopted RDF related techologies remaining in use since the dotcom bubble of early 2000s.
29 • Collecting distro ISO files (by S. on 2022-06-21 01:06:51 GMT from Austria)
A minor correction: DW RSS feeds use RSS 2.0 which is not RDF-based (it's just XML; RSS 1.x is based on RDF, RSS 2.x and Atom are not). I've just thought that "machine-readable" in 2022 is better said as "easily parseable" (and desirably "structured") because machines seem to become capable of doing everything if we throw enough computational resources (given the latest news about language models trained on extremely large datasets ostensibly passing the Turing test).
30 • Btrfs snapshots - no longer important to me, ram - what is 'lightweight' now? (by Andy Prough on 2022-06-21 01:38:49 GMT from United States)
I used to use Btrfs snapshots with Tumbleweed, but in recent years I haven't had the need. All my data is backed up all the time, and if the system were to die I would be able to fix it or re-install it in minutes. That's been one big advantage of moving to a super-light, super-fast distro like antiX that installs in under 2 minutes. I just don't worry any longer about saving all those snapshots.
My other comment is on Leap's 530mb of memory use being 'lightweight' among modern distros. It's not really lightweight at all, but when compared to other bloated systemd distros it's probably using less than half as much memory. So I guess we do have to consider it to be 'lightweight', relatively speaking.
31 • *BSD wireless drivers (by S. on 2022-06-21 01:45:45 GMT from Hungary)
It's interesting to compare the coincidentally emerged ways of running Linux wireless drivers in FreeBSD (using Wifibox) and GhostBSD. Virtualizion-based approach is suitable for non-free FreeBSD derivatives and potentially can be made more secure because it may be possible to restrict behavior of the Linux guest. On the other hand, GhostBSD approach is more seamless and can potentially offer better performance (but perhaps not significantly better).
32 • @30, RAM usage (by S. on 2022-06-21 02:05:34 GMT from Switzerland)
RAM usage is relative to the total RAM size. Bigger RAM requires more page tables and other data structures to keep track of it. Programs can see that there is a lot of RAM and use it more aggressively or cache something and then drop it if there is memory pressure. For the real estimation it is somewhat better to try booting the distribution with "mem=1G" kernel parameter on physical hardware or using it in a 1 GB VM, or run a memory-hungry application and watch how it and the system perform.
33 • @30, ram - what is 'lightweight' now? (by Justme on 2022-06-21 04:59:38 GMT from United States)
"when compared to other bloated systemd distros it's probably using less than half as much memory." Variables beyond systemd, and in some cases the DE determine RAM usage. As @30 states, available RAM may be one such. Here are some real world figures, from the computers we are using here:
MX KDE no systemd= 704 idle 1108 Chrome w/ 2tabs Parrot KDE systemd= 1074 idle 1470 Chrome w/ 2 tabs Devuan Gnome no systemd= 790 idle 1190 Chrome w/ 2 tabs Ubuntu Gnome systemd 640 idle 1038 Chrome w/ 2 tabs MX XFCE 537 idle 1078 FF w/ 2 tabs Parrot XFCE 380 809 FF w/ 2 tabs
Parrot with KDE is the outlier, I haven't determined the reason. None of the others differ that much from Jesse's numbers in Leap. None will come close to taxing any of our computers. I expect if one is using rather old and weak hardware, it may matter.
34 • Tumbleweed or Leap? (by penguinx86 on 2022-06-21 05:27:14 GMT from United States)
I haven't used either. To me, the most important thing is wifi adapter compatibility out of box. That's why I stick with Linux Mint. Linux Mint is the ONLY distro where my Wifi just works, with no hassles. Prove to me that YOUR latest OS will be compatible with MY Wifi Adapter before I'll be willing to risk reformatting my / drive.
35 • @32 - ram usage (by Andy Prough on 2022-06-21 10:24:24 GMT from Switzerland)
>"RAM usage is relative to the total RAM size. Bigger RAM requires more page tables and other data structures to keep track of it. Programs can see that there is a lot of RAM and use it more aggressively or cache something and then drop it if there is memory pressure."
I assume Jesse does not refer to cache ram in his 530mb, but rather to ram that is unavailable to other programs because it is actively in use. A truly lightweight distro will have all but ~200mb available to other programs after boot, or ~100mb in the case of some distros.
36 • @13 Dr. Hu: (by dragonmouth on 2022-06-21 12:09:16 GMT from United States)
No need to rip out KDE Wallet. Just disable it. Just uncheck the "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem" and it will never bother you again. Works on any distro I have tried so far.
37 • @34 WiFi (by jazzaddict on 2022-06-21 12:52:20 GMT from Netherlands)
Lol, we have nothing to prove (nor do we care for uppercase words), if you're happy with a distro there is no reason to change, especially with problematic drivers.
38 • RAM etc (by wertyu on 2022-06-21 13:07:29 GMT from Australia)
@33 My observations testing various distros match yours - on this laptop at any rate (4GB RAM) systemd has nothing to do with how well it runs or not or how much memory it uses. I use Ubuntu MATE as the installed distro and do a lot of video processing and it handles that fine (as well as website browsing, email, word processing and playing music at the same time as that).
I haven't ever come close to using all the RAM or going into swap, but if it's there to be used I don't have an issue with that. To me that's using available resources for the jobs I need to do, my definition of efficiency.
I'm not an expert by any means but I've never understood the use of these terms like 'bloat' or 'lightweight' as applied by commenters here or anywhere on Linux forums as they seem to mean different things to different people (and often nothing at all). I just tend to dismiss those comments as meaningless unless backed by specific examples - I mean if you have a 2GB RAM machine (as I had before this one), using quarter of it to run the desktop environment wouldn't seem to leave much in the tank but it was still plenty for me for everything except the video processing (which I had to do by itself). I ran Ubuntu MATE on that as well and it was fine.
39 • BSD wireless support (by Otis on 2022-06-21 15:23:48 GMT from United States)
@31 Well, GhostBSD's approach may be more "seamless" than the Virtualizion-based approach of others, but it seems to throttle a very large number of potential users/machines just by elimination of network capabilities for them. I cannot understand that, beyond the developer's lack of time to just include out of the box functionality for more cards; I have three machines now of three different brands and ages and none of them can connect to the internet with GhostBSD. I see the same complaints across many machine types for that (and MidnightBSD) distro.
40 • @36, KDEWallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-21 15:31:19 GMT from Philippines)
"uncheck the "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem" " True. Just checked my settings and it's been disabled, probably by me since I'm the only user on this machine. Still, it would be nice as an opt-in, to avoid the threats of eternal damnation should one not encrypt one's passwords.
41 • @35 - RAM usage (by S. on 2022-06-21 18:47:33 GMT from Sweden)
I mean that certain applications (albeit mostly server ones) can manage their RAM caches themselves, and the Linux kernel does not account that RAM as "free" or "available" (because it does not know).
42 • GhostBSD but no encryption (by MrSparkleWonder on 2022-06-21 18:49:48 GMT from Mexico)
Love the easy to use GhostBSD system and would adopt it for my daily driver ... but, there is no encryption support during installation, and that is a deal breaker. Until GhostBSD implement this feature it is totally not useable. FreeBSD has encryption support during installation, so I don't see why GhostBSD cannot implement that feature.
I might try DragonFLY
43 • @39 - BSD wireless support (by S. on 2022-06-21 19:01:13 GMT from Norway)
I refer to the announcement of GhostBSD 22.06.15, it mentions inclusion of drivers for Broadcom cards in the default out-of-the-box kernel. They are GPLv2 licensed so I assume they are derived from Linux versions of these drivers. That, I assume, makes the whole default redistributable kernel binary image GPLed rather than BSD-licensed but it does not matter for most users. I hope they'll be glad that their cards start working with this release.
44 • BLACK Theme (by Bob on 2022-06-21 19:09:46 GMT from United States)
@18 I like dark themes as long as they have a complimentary style. But you're right about Crowz. I tested the OB version, and I like most of the features, BUT, the overall theme is #000000 black on black, with a hint of black. No thanks.
45 • OpenSuse (by James on 2022-06-21 21:38:13 GMT from United States)
How about a radio button like a lot of other polls have, like for example with this poll, it could’ve said:
I haven’t tried and do not plan to try
Or
I have tried and do not plan to try again
OpenSuse has been going down the hill for many years and become more unstable, slow and bloated. I’d rather try a project based on OpenSuse that’ll do a better job and listen to their users.
46 • @39 @43 Ghostbsd Wireless support (by krell on 2022-06-22 05:06:57 GMT from Tajikistan)
User of an old Thinkpad T410 here. Connecting to my Iphone8 WifI hotspot on Fedora, clearlinux or void is seamless and painless.
I downloaded the June latest GhostBsd in hopes that the wifi Connection would finally work. No luck. It detects the signal but refuses to connect. Perhaps they need to see that the support for Wif actually functions and not just connects?
47 • Main operating system? (by macias on 2022-06-22 06:02:43 GMT from Poland)
While I tested other distros now and then I run open/SUSE for around 20 years, not because it is that good, but because of Yast. It makes life significantly simpler. Anyway, @Jesse "it's never a distribution I've run as my main operating system for various reasons". What are your go-to distros I am curious? :-).
48 • OpenSuse (by Dr.J on 2022-06-22 11:04:25 GMT from Germany)
I am one of the neither-nor voters because OpenSuse has never convinced me. One of the reasons is certainly YaST. I still don't understand what it's all about. It reminds me a lot of things the guys from Redmont built and is so superfluous in my Linux world. You can do everything YaST can do where Linux is at home, in the terminal.
49 • Opensuse Leap (by Lucilio on 2022-06-22 13:15:42 GMT from Italy)
Reading on Reddit it seems that opensuse leap will be abandoned: I hope that a community of volunteer developers will carry on the project.
50 • KDE Wallet (by Joseph on 2022-06-22 18:42:48 GMT from United States)
I don't know why everyone finds KDE wallet such a problem. If you don't want it, select classic encryption and enter nothing for the password. Boom! Problem solved; it goes away forever.
51 • BLACK Theme target (by Rincewind III on 2022-06-22 19:12:50 GMT from New Zealand)
@ 44 • BLACK Theme
is this the final dark theme result:
“It’s the wild colour scheme that freaks me,” said Zaphod whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight, “Every time you try to operate on of these weird black controls that are labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let you know you’ve done it.”
Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
52 • Suse (by Tad Strange on 2022-06-22 19:49:45 GMT from Canada)
SuSE is something that I've always liked the idea of, but it never really gained my loyalty, and I cannot point to any one thing, other than the usual dichotomy of the stable version having stale software and the rolling not really being developed as anything other than a tech preview.
When the stars align and you happen to be shopping for an OS when a new LTS drops, then it's not so bad, perhaps, excepting Debian, which is old even when new.
53 • TrueNAS Core/Enterprise vs TrueNAS Scale (by Sitwon on 2022-06-22 20:16:30 GMT from United States)
TrueNAS CORE and Enterprise are both based on FreeBSD.
However TrueNAS SCALE is based on Linux and offers a substantially different set of features.
I can see combining TrueNAS CORE and Enterprise, but it seems like SCALE should still be considered separately.
54 • I've run out of black. (by Bob on 2022-06-22 23:07:56 GMT from United States)
@51 You got it.
"And the paper was black ... except for the tiny little area that wasn't."
Terry Pratchett, Feat of Clay
55 • @50, KDEWallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-23 00:21:08 GMT from Philippines)
An annoyance, Joseph, not a problem. It's like ads jumping around or videos starting unprompted on web pages. You can make them go away, but they are still an annoyance.
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• Issue 1090 (2024-09-30): Rhino Linux 2024.2, commercial distros with alternative desktops, Valve seeks to improve Wayland performance, HardenedBSD parterns with Protectli, Tails merges with Tor Project, Quantum Leap partners with the FreeBSD Foundation |
• Issue 1089 (2024-09-23): Expirion 6.0, openKylin 2.0, managing configuration files, the future of Linux development, fixing bugs in Haiku, Slackware packages dracut |
• Issue 1088 (2024-09-16): PorteuX 1.6, migrating from Windows 10 to which Linux distro, making NetBSD immutable, AlmaLinux offers hardware certification, Mint updates old APT tools |
• Issue 1087 (2024-09-09): COSMIC desktop, running cron jobs at variable times, UBports highlights new apps, HardenedBSD offers work around for FreeBSD change, Debian considers how to cull old packages, systemd ported to musl |
• Issue 1086 (2024-09-02): Vanilla OS 2, command line tips for simple tasks, FreeBSD receives investment from STF, openSUSE Tumbleweed update can break network connections, Debian refreshes media |
• Issue 1085 (2024-08-26): Nobara 40, OpenMandriva 24.07 "ROME", distros which include source code, FreeBSD publishes quarterly report, Microsoft updates breaks Linux in dual-boot environments |
• Issue 1084 (2024-08-19): Liya 2.0, dual boot with encryption, Haiku introduces performance improvements, Gentoo dropping IA-64, Redcore merges major upgrade |
• Issue 1083 (2024-08-12): TrueNAS 24.04.2 "SCALE", Linux distros for smartphones, Redox OS introduces web server, PipeWire exposes battery drain on Linux, Canonical updates kernel version policy |
• Issue 1082 (2024-08-05): Linux Mint 22, taking snapshots of UFS on FreeBSD, openSUSE updates Tumbleweed and Aeon, Debian creates Tiny QA Tasks, Manjaro testing immutable images |
• Issue 1081 (2024-07-29): SysLinuxOS 12.4, OpenBSD gain hardware acceleration, Slackware changes kernel naming, Mint publishes upgrade instructions |
• Issue 1080 (2024-07-22): Running GNU/Linux on Android with Andronix, protecting network services, Solus dropping AppArmor and Snap, openSUSE Aeon Desktop gaining full disk encryption, SUSE asks openSUSE to change its branding |
• Issue 1079 (2024-07-15): Ubuntu Core 24, hiding files on Linux, Fedora dropping X11 packages on Workstation, Red Hat phasing out GRUB, new OpenSSH vulnerability, FreeBSD speeds up release cycle, UBports testing new first-run wizard |
• Issue 1078 (2024-07-08): Changing init software, server machines running desktop environments, OpenSSH vulnerability patched, Peppermint launches new edition, HardenedBSD updates ports |
• Issue 1077 (2024-07-01): The Unity and Lomiri interfaces, different distros for different tasks, Ubuntu plans to run Wayland on NVIDIA cards, openSUSE updates Leap Micro, Debian releases refreshed media, UBports gaining contact synchronisation, FreeDOS celebrates its 30th anniversary |
• Issue 1076 (2024-06-24): openSUSE 15.6, what makes Linux unique, SUSE Liberty Linux to support CentOS Linux 7, SLE receives 19 years of support, openSUSE testing Leap Micro edition |
• Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
• Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
• Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
• Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
• Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
• Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
• Issue 1069 (2024-05-06): Ubuntu 24.04, installing packages in alternative locations, systemd creates sudo alternative, Mint encourages XApps collaboration, FreeBSD publishes quarterly update |
• Issue 1068 (2024-04-29): Fedora 40, transforming one distro into another, Debian elects new Project Leader, Red Hat extends support cycle, Emmabuntus adds accessibility features, Canonical's new security features |
• Issue 1067 (2024-04-22): LocalSend for transferring files, detecting supported CPU architecure levels, new visual design for APT, Fedora and openSUSE working on reproducible builds, LXQt released, AlmaLinux re-adds hardware support |
• Issue 1066 (2024-04-15): Fun projects to do with the Raspberry Pi and PinePhone, installing new software on fixed-release distributions, improving GNOME Terminal performance, Mint testing new repository mirrors, Gentoo becomes a Software In the Public Interest project |
• Issue 1065 (2024-04-08): Dr.Parted Live 24.03, answering questions about the xz exploit, Linux Mint to ship HWE kernel, AlmaLinux patches flaw ahead of upstream Red Hat, Calculate changes release model |
• Issue 1064 (2024-04-01): NixOS 23.11, the status of Hurd, liblzma compromised upstream, FreeBSD Foundation focuses on improving wireless networking, Ubuntu Pro offers 12 years of support |
• Issue 1063 (2024-03-25): Redcore Linux 2401, how slowly can a rolling release update, Debian starts new Project Leader election, Red Hat creating new NVIDIA driver, Snap store hit with more malware |
• Issue 1062 (2024-03-18): KDE neon 20240304, changing file permissions, Canonical turns 20, Pop!_OS creates new software centre, openSUSE packages Plasma 6 |
• Issue 1061 (2024-03-11): Using a PinePhone as a workstation, restarting background services on a schedule, NixBSD ports Nix to FreeBSD, Fedora packaging COSMIC, postmarketOS to adopt systemd, Linux Mint replacing HexChat |
• Issue 1060 (2024-03-04): AV Linux MX-23.1, bootstrapping a network connection, key OpenBSD features, Qubes certifies new hardware, LXQt and Plasma migrate to Qt 6 |
• Issue 1059 (2024-02-26): Warp Terminal, navigating manual pages, malware found in the Snap store, Red Hat considering CPU requirement update, UBports organizes ongoing work |
• Issue 1058 (2024-02-19): Drauger OS 7.6, how much disk space to allocate, System76 prepares to launch COSMIC desktop, UBports changes its version scheme, TrueNAS to offer faster deduplication |
• Issue 1057 (2024-02-12): Adelie Linux 1.0 Beta, rolling release vs fixed for a smoother experience, Debian working on 2038 bug, elementary OS to split applications from base system updates, Fedora announces Atomic Desktops |
• Issue 1056 (2024-02-05): wattOS R13, the various write speeds of ISO writing tools, DSL returns, Mint faces Wayland challenges, HardenedBSD blocks foreign USB devices, Gentoo publishes new repository, Linux distros patch glibc flaw |
• Issue 1055 (2024-01-29): CNIX OS 231204, distributions patching packages the most, Gentoo team presents ongoing work, UBports introduces connectivity and battery improvements, interview with Haiku developer |
• Issue 1054 (2024-01-22): Solus 4.5, comparing dd and cp when writing ISO files, openSUSE plans new major Leap version, XeroLinux shutting down, HardenedBSD changes its build schedule |
• Issue 1053 (2024-01-15): Linux AI voice assistants, some distributions running hotter than others, UBports talks about coming changes, Qubes certifies StarBook laptops, Asahi Linux improves energy savings |
• Issue 1052 (2024-01-08): OpenMandriva Lx 5.0, keeping shell commands running when theterminal closes, Mint upgrades Edge kernel, Vanilla OS plans big changes, Canonical working to make Snap more cross-platform |
• Issue 1051 (2024-01-01): Favourite distros of 2023, reloading shell settings, Asahi Linux releases Fedora remix, Gentoo offers binary packages, openSUSE provides full disk encryption |
• Issue 1050 (2023-12-18): rlxos 2023.11, renaming files and opening terminal windows in specific directories, TrueNAS publishes ZFS fixes, Debian publishes delayed install media, Haiku polishes desktop experience |
• Issue 1049 (2023-12-11): Lernstick 12, alternatives to WINE, openSUSE updates its branding, Mint unveils new features, Lubuntu team plans for 24.04 |
• Issue 1048 (2023-12-04): openSUSE MicroOS, the transition from X11 to Wayland, Red Hat phasing out X11 packages, UBports making mobile development easier |
• Issue 1047 (2023-11-27): GhostBSD 23.10.1, Why Linux uses swap when memory is free, Ubuntu Budgie may benefit from Wayland work in Xfce, early issues with FreeBSD 14.0 |
• Issue 1046 (2023-11-20): Slackel 7.7 "Openbox", restricting CPU usage, Haiku improves font handling and software centre performance, Canonical launches MicroCloud |
• Issue 1045 (2023-11-13): Fedora 39, how to trust software packages, ReactOS booting with UEFI, elementary OS plans to default to Wayland, Mir gaining ability to split work across video cards |
• Issue 1044 (2023-11-06): Porteus 5.01, disabling IPv6, applications unique to a Linux distro, Linux merges bcachefs, OpenELA makes source packages available |
• Issue 1043 (2023-10-30): Murena Two with privacy switches, where old files go when packages are updated, UBports on Volla phones, Mint testing Cinnamon on Wayland, Peppermint releases ARM build |
• Issue 1042 (2023-10-23): Ubuntu Cinnamon compared with Linux Mint, extending battery life on Linux, Debian resumes /usr merge, Canonical publishes fixed install media |
• Issue 1041 (2023-10-16): FydeOS 17.0, Dr.Parted 23.09, changing UIDs, Fedora partners with Slimbook, GNOME phasing out X11 sessions, Ubuntu revokes 23.10 install media |
• Issue 1040 (2023-10-09): CROWZ 5.0, changing the location of default directories, Linux Mint updates its Edge edition, Murena crowdfunding new privacy phone, Debian publishes new install media |
• Issue 1039 (2023-10-02): Zenwalk Current, finding the duration of media files, Peppermint OS tries out new edition, COSMIC gains new features, Canonical reports on security incident in Snap store |
• Issue 1038 (2023-09-25): Mageia 9, trouble-shooting launchers, running desktop Linux in the cloud, New documentation for Nix, Linux phasing out ReiserFS, GNU celebrates 40 years |
• Issue 1037 (2023-09-18): Bodhi Linux 7.0.0, finding specific distros and unified package managemnt, Zevenet replaced by two new forks, openSUSE introduces Slowroll branch, Fedora considering dropping Plasma X11 session |
• Issue 1036 (2023-09-11): SDesk 2023.08.12, hiding command line passwords, openSUSE shares contributor survery results, Ubuntu plans seamless disk encryption, GNOME 45 to break extension compatibility |
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