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1 • OpenSUSE live edition (by Brad on 2022-06-20 00:40:57 GMT from United States)
I don't know how far back this issue goes, but I tried the live edition a few times over the years, and found it wanting - since I wanted to "try" before "buying", I never went beyond triyng, thinking that the installed version would be just as bad.
I guess that means I never took the "Leap"...
2 • OpenSUSE (by Cameron Mitchell on 2022-06-20 01:03:07 GMT from Argentina)
Leap 15.4 es un sistema estable. Ahora le han sacado los drivers con firmware y hay que dar alguna vuelta para instalarlos. Tumbleweed era un buen sistema hasta que llegó Gnome 42. Ahora tiene fallas todo el tiempo especialmente con los drivers de video. Esto lo ha vuelto una beta muy inestable e inmanejable. Pese a lo que diga el responsable del proyecto, me parece que no está haciendo su trabajo como corresponde porque le delega su responsabilidad al usuario. Así cualquiera escribe un blog semanal.
3 • YaST (by Friar Tux on 2022-06-20 01:18:14 GMT from Canada)
I have tried openSUSE many, many, many times over the years, but have never been able to get YaST to work on my HP brand laptops - ever. In fact, any distro that runs YaST has acted the same as openSUSE. YaST will always simply quit/stop working whenever I try to install an app/program, or try to update the OS, consistently, regardless of the OS. So I had to vote "I have not used either." Pity. OpenSUSE looks like it might be really good.
4 • Leap & Tumbleweed (by pongo on 2022-06-20 01:30:00 GMT from United States)
To install missing codecs in either openSUSE version just go to www.opensuse-community.org and do the one-click installs. No CLI work needed at all! Opi is a good thing if the CLI is your pleasure.
I've been using Tumbleweed with btrfs for several years now and have had very few problems and have only had to roll back once. I don't use the nvidia drivers because I have a moral scruple about killing space aliens and enemy soldiers and do no video editing and only very simple photo editing; the nouveau driver works well for me. The nvida drivers seem to cause problems for people with older cards because of the frequent new kernels you get with TW. That said, neither version of SUSE is the best choice for beginners or casual users; they take a little more work to set up and maintain but give power, control and reliability.
Another virtue of openSUSE is the active and helpful mail lists -- I loathe web forums.
I also use Siduction (Debian sid unstable) on the same machine to keep my hand in with the Debian world. Very few problems there either.
I do have a backup machine with the much more conservative openSUSE Leap installed in case of total failure of Tumbleweed and Siduction but this has yet to happen
5 • Opensuse-Tumbleweed (by Sam Crawford on 2022-06-20 01:42:17 GMT from United States)
I've been running Tumbleweed with the mate desktop for a few months and have not had any issues at all, once configured. The toughest part was getting VueScan to work. Google and some trial and error with the firewall finally got it to work.
This week OpenSuse Tumbleeed changed it's build number and tumbleweed downloaded and installed almost 2,000 updates.
I only have two complaints. The first is the mirrors are slow, at least here in Idaho, in the USA, where downloads are measured in kbs vs. the downloads I get from some Debian mirrors that are coming in at 60-80 mbs. I'm sure there are faster repositories but I haven't put the effort into finding them.
The other complaint is trhe way Opensuse does disk encryption. The encrypt the whole disk so that I have to enter a password to get to grub and the same password again to unencrypt my system. It takes a long time from the first password to get into grub. They argue it is more secure but the way Debian and LinuxMint does it where access to grub is unencrypted and then enter a password to get into the system is way more convenient.
6 • One-click install (by Jesse on 2022-06-20 02:14:46 GMT from Canada)
@5: "To install missing codecs in either openSUSE version just go to www.opensuse-community.org and do the one-click installs. No CLI work needed at all! "
I've tried this is most previous versions of openSUSE. It's never worked properly. Which is probably why it's not an official method for installing media codecs.
7 • YaST (by Joseph on 2022-06-20 03:26:46 GMT from United States)
@3: I've got Tumbleweed running on my 78yo mother's HP Spectre laptop without any problems for a few years now.
8 • Q&A - Collecting distro ISO files (by Greg Zeng on 2022-06-20 04:28:00 GMT from Australia)
As usual, this is one of the most interesting parts of Distrowatch. The short answer to the question: daily publications of DISTROWATCH are currently the best way to monitor the Linux and BSD operating systems.
The long answer requires many additional resources. Some websites are slowly trying to "improve" from the Distrowatch notifications, but generally fail. The "failures" happen because the publishers of the new operating systems do not care much about informing the public. These coders are too busy coding to be proper publishers explaining their new releases, in a context understood by outsiders.
Reading their internal dialog is the best & often only way to try understanding these changes. These open source publishers need a competent publishing department: "The Linux Foundation", Ubuntu, the highly disorganized systems based on the RPM package managers, the BSD-based systems (including closed-source Apple), and non-business systems such as PCLOS and the "Puppy" families.
Perhaps the only known predictions in newly released operating systems are those from the Ubuntu-core base. This explains why so many system creators prefer this stable, predictable core-base, much more than any other open operating system.
Ubuntu-core has a stable base released every two years, in April. According to Distrowatch, there are 273 "Active" open operating systems right now. Not all are perhaps "open source". Only 53 are based on a version of Ubuntu. Of these, about 19 are based on Ubuntu-core-LTS, instead of the usual Ubuntu-core.
All the 53 Ubuntu based systems, and some Debian-based systems, can be "upgraded" to the very latest Linux kernel, seconds after being published as source code by "The Linux Foundation". Only a few of the 53 systems have a GUI or automated way to "upgrade" to the latest Linux official kernel. The 19 LTS systems will be too afraid to officially upgrade to the latest kernel, for fear of losing their stability with other parts and users of the operating system.
The other Linux-based systems usually their own versions of the older official Linux kernels. This allows the avoidance of certain conditions injected by Ubuntu and "The Linux Foundation". Added or removed are "systemd", binary bits, and other widened or narrowed source code, optimized for specific hardware,users, and operating conditions.
9 • openSUSE (by userX on 2022-06-20 06:36:53 GMT from Croatia)
I strongly like Leap, I strongly dislike Tumbleweed.
10 • Try OpenSUSE Leap with Xfce (by Gerhard Goetzhaber on 2022-06-20 07:57:24 GMT from Austria)
As of now, this has been my main system for daily work and "production" for many a year. If you decide to permanently go with GNU Linux you should do as well, and you'll never see yourself left alone with problems you can't find a good solution for. I'd say it's 98% perfect. Best hardware compatibility especially for peripheral devices I've ever found with a Linux system, and in this way much better up2date than all Debian and Ubuntu based editions (except Siduction - great), not lastly because of it's excellently backported kernel updates. Huge software repositories, too! Well, KDE Plasma often has a somewhat lovlier look and lets you funnily play around with it. However, there's that never-ending thing with KDE: a new version will come up everytime before the last one is made ready for really good use! Tumbleweed? Good work while racing to the future, good for experimental setups, but be aware that from time to time you'll see yourself been forced to repair or just update the system from outside - this meaning from a text-only-boot or by chrooting from another OS (if you know about practicing). Same-same Fedora Rawhide ...
11 • OpenSUSE (by Tom on 2022-06-20 08:57:09 GMT from Belgium)
I've been using it on and off for a few years, though I've recently been using other distributions.
I agree with the statement that it's somewhat uneven, and the KDE Wallet is a typical example (I'm disabling it because it's too annoying). Another one is the network configuration confusion between YaST and other tools, depending on which network system is used. Same with the DE configuration, which is confusing and messy between the themes and individual settings.
But overall it's very good. It has a very solid and user-friendly package system, nothing like the cryptic arguments of pacman or the spread of different commands for apt. The installation process is very good too, one of the best I know. The Plasma DE offers a very good experience to end users, that's usually the one I'm going for.
Be extremely careful with Btrfs, it looks powerful but is infamously unreliable with some RAID configurations. And it's very power-consuming in the default configuration, creating way more snapshots than necessary which frequently causes some devices to freeze for short periods of time. But when used well on non-RAID systems, it can save you a lot of work if you mess when upgrading the system. Personally, I don't think that it's worth the trouble though, so I'm not using it anymore.
I prefer Tumbleweed to Leap, I don't like having all the compatibility problems dumped on my system at once, I'd rather have them incrementally. Just a small personal preference.
12 • OpenSUSE Leap (by Microlinux on 2022-06-20 09:27:42 GMT from France)
OpenSUSE Leap is the best thing that's ever happened to the Linux workstation. I've been using it since 15.0 on a few dozen desktop clients.
Here's my post-install configuration file to turn a vanilla OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 installation into a full-blown Linux desktop with bells and whistles:
https://gitlab.com/kikinovak/opensuse-lp154
13 • Suse's wallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-20 10:54:06 GMT from Philippines)
I've tried both Leap and Tumbleweed, and ended up using neither, but in all fairness, KDEWallet is more of a universal nuisance. Happens often with Debian, it's spawn, and others. Last time I tried to remove it from a Debian-based distro, it threatened to bring down the whole desktop with it. So pending a forcible removal, I just fed it pap. I open the wallet app to change "login" password, and leave the new password blank.
I think the blame lies at the feet of KDE devs. My take it that they saw the annoyances caused by Gnome keyring, got jealous and wanted to go one better. Along with the creators of the "auto-complete" feature in Android keyboards, they should be confined to the nether regions, never again to see the light of day. Too harsh? Ok, maybe at least a wrist-slap.
Discover is another peeve of mine with KDE. But that's for another rant.
14 • openSUSE’s demise (by Tommi Nieminen on 2022-06-20 11:28:43 GMT from Finland)
I was sorry to hear about openSUSE Leap’s forthcoming demise: it’s been my main go-to distro for the past seven years, and there’s regrettably little competition there. Discounting the rolling releases that are too unstable and turbulent for someone who uses computers for work, and niche distros whose repos wouldn’t have all the software I need, I think there’s only Debian left (now that *buntu has that godawful Snap).
I managed to migrate three of my four computers to Debian during the past two weeks; the one remaining is a bit of an issue because it probably wouldn’t work at all without non-free firmware and possibly not well even with those. Maybe I leave it to openSUSE for the time being, and wish a new, usable general-purpose distro would emerge.
15 • how well does opensuse work with HDDs nowadays? (by mircea on 2022-06-20 11:50:43 GMT from Moldova)
In past on my laptops OpenSUSE was the only distro which made my hdd sing a lot (from 2006 till OpenSUSE 42 in 2015).
It had very weird settings related to parking hard disk heads, it parked them very ofter, so I never dared to use it.
How it is working on HDDs today ?
16 • "OpenSUSE's demise" ? (by Microlinux on 2022-06-20 11:59:40 GMT from France)
Hi,
The last Distrowatch Weekly sported a newsflash about the end of OpenSUSE Leap as we know it.
I wanted to know more about it, so I asked in the OpenSUSE forum and the OpenSUSE mailing list.
Nobody seems to know anything about it.
Care to share your source for this piece of information ?
17 • @16, openSUSE’s demise (by Tommi Nieminen on 2022-06-20 12:46:24 GMT from Finland)
Last weeks’s DistroWatch, or more specifically the reader comments section of it, together with reddit’s r/opensuse subreddit, are my sources too: it seems to be the most anyone knows or is willing to tell.
But you could turn the question upside down and think of why no one at SUSE seems willing to confirm a future, any kind of future, to Leap as is. Surely it’s because they don’t care about Leap and are unwilling to support it. It’s either a rolling release testing ground (Tumbleweed) or a container-based system that may not even have a desktop!
18 • new distrubition CROWZ (by always_courious-about-FOSS on 2022-06-20 15:05:29 GMT from Germany)
I like distributions with the concepts of simplicity and lightweight and also desktops like Openbox or JWM. So I was not averse to test the Iso Image. But the dark theme had scared me off. By the way: was there ever a opinion poll about prefer dark or light themes? I prefer absolutely light themes.
19 • Leap or TW (by Stusser on 2022-06-20 15:14:38 GMT from Germany)
There is still a lengthy discussion going on at reddit about the future of Leap, including a prominent executive at Opensuse. What I liked was that users are given another 2.5 years or so with Leap before anything new comes along. And it will. It may be that the new base called ALP (community work!) is just another base, not noticeable to the user and that's it. We will have to wait and see. Between the lines, I noticed a strong preference for Opensuse MicroOS. Maybe that's the future - I personally don't like it. A core OS with extended apps over mainly flatpaks only means that I put my trust fully in the hands of flatpaks without knowing if they were created exemplary in every respect. This has been discussed, I don't need to repeat it. Alternative: rolling releases. We also know that rolling releases have advantages and disadvantages, and those who like to continuously install the gigantic updates (and tremble), enjoy it. Admittedly, rolling releases have become more reliable. Those who prefer the traditional model will look around. I find that there are projects besides Debian that work. There is Linux Mint and of course lesser known ones like Open Mandriva or Mageia, which have great potential. Overall, I'm relaxed about it, but I don't necessarily want to participate in the update mania.
20 • Opensuse (by Robert on 2022-06-20 15:56:44 GMT from United States)
This review aligns quite closely with my past experiences with opensuse. Amazing technical infrastructure, spotty end user product.
Or as you said, it makes difficult things easy and easy things difficult.
And I too cannot stand KDE Wallet. That piece of software is one of my biggest gripes with the desktop.
21 • openSUSE (by John W on 2022-06-20 16:14:22 GMT from United States)
"openSUSE is a distribution which makes a lot of usually hard tasks easy and the normally easy tasks hard."
Now that's funny! True, but funny. Love me some openSUSE Leap!
22 • Tumbleweed and the future (by Ortysius on 2022-06-20 16:39:07 GMT from Brazil)
I've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed for 7 months, but today after an upgrade I got to break the installation. Due to circumstances I'll try to install Hackintosh on my machine, thus, replacing SUSE. But I'm willing to come back after some time, that's a great distro overall and I had a good user experience with it.
23 • Poll (by Otis on 2022-06-20 17:30:43 GMT from United States)
Well I've used both versions of Suse off and on over many years and don't like either, although I've always approached each install with high hopes. Gecko soothed much of the issues, but it also clinks and clonks at some point and is abandoned by me after a few days of hair pulling.
No poll choice for using both and not liking either.
24 • BSD Networking Support (by Otis on 2022-06-20 17:43:29 GMT from United States)
One piece of Miscellaneous News in this Week's edition caught my eye: "The FreeBSD team have published a status update which provides an overview of work going into the operating system. Several of the key updates involve getting FreeBSD to work better on new hardware, including RISC-V processors and Framework laptops. Efforts are being made to reduce boot times and several developers are also working on wireless networking support."
Wow. I mean.. a direct effort on FreeBSD's part to address one of the most frustrating things about BSD in general (for me and likely many others eager to have a BSD machine as reliable as the solid Linux distros). My hope is that this effort will influence GhostBSD and MidnightBSD at some point.
25 • A list of newest install images (by K.U. on 2022-06-20 17:51:33 GMT from Finland)
For Berryboot users, there is https://berryboot.alexgoldcheidt.com/images/
(Berryboot is needed to install and boot this kind of images.)
26 • Poll (by Robert on 2022-06-20 17:56:51 GMT from United States)
On the poll, I have a preference toward rolling releases over slow moving release cycles for my desktop. But I've had nothing but bad experiences with tumbleweed.
Leap is too old and crusty for modern desktop hardware, and I have had multiple hardware compatibility issues with it. But I am using it in the transactional configuration for my server and that has worked well.
So in the end I chose Leap, but I don't use either for desktop.
27 • openSUSE is Not for Lazy People (by MattE on 2022-06-20 22:51:51 GMT from United States)
Yes, openSUSE is good for servers, but I don't know why they insist on making storage drive encryption such a pain. Encrypting the boot partion should be an easy opt-out and I'm lazy so, no openSUSE for me.
28 • Collecting distro ISO files (by S. on 2022-06-21 00:10:25 GMT from Austria)
It's sad that it is 2022 now and there is no de facto standard for publishing machine-readable factual data. We ve got RDF, ontologies, microformats but their actual adoption is low, the Semantic Web has never truly materialized, though W3C has got all the needed technology 20+ years ago. Web developers have not got incentive from search engines (but when they demanded HTTPS, almost all the web relatively quickly adopted Let's Encrypt). The solution in the answer involves RSS, and it's one of the few widely adopted RDF related techologies remaining in use since the dotcom bubble of early 2000s.
29 • Collecting distro ISO files (by S. on 2022-06-21 01:06:51 GMT from Austria)
A minor correction: DW RSS feeds use RSS 2.0 which is not RDF-based (it's just XML; RSS 1.x is based on RDF, RSS 2.x and Atom are not). I've just thought that "machine-readable" in 2022 is better said as "easily parseable" (and desirably "structured") because machines seem to become capable of doing everything if we throw enough computational resources (given the latest news about language models trained on extremely large datasets ostensibly passing the Turing test).
30 • Btrfs snapshots - no longer important to me, ram - what is 'lightweight' now? (by Andy Prough on 2022-06-21 01:38:49 GMT from United States)
I used to use Btrfs snapshots with Tumbleweed, but in recent years I haven't had the need. All my data is backed up all the time, and if the system were to die I would be able to fix it or re-install it in minutes. That's been one big advantage of moving to a super-light, super-fast distro like antiX that installs in under 2 minutes. I just don't worry any longer about saving all those snapshots.
My other comment is on Leap's 530mb of memory use being 'lightweight' among modern distros. It's not really lightweight at all, but when compared to other bloated systemd distros it's probably using less than half as much memory. So I guess we do have to consider it to be 'lightweight', relatively speaking.
31 • *BSD wireless drivers (by S. on 2022-06-21 01:45:45 GMT from Hungary)
It's interesting to compare the coincidentally emerged ways of running Linux wireless drivers in FreeBSD (using Wifibox) and GhostBSD. Virtualizion-based approach is suitable for non-free FreeBSD derivatives and potentially can be made more secure because it may be possible to restrict behavior of the Linux guest. On the other hand, GhostBSD approach is more seamless and can potentially offer better performance (but perhaps not significantly better).
32 • @30, RAM usage (by S. on 2022-06-21 02:05:34 GMT from Switzerland)
RAM usage is relative to the total RAM size. Bigger RAM requires more page tables and other data structures to keep track of it. Programs can see that there is a lot of RAM and use it more aggressively or cache something and then drop it if there is memory pressure. For the real estimation it is somewhat better to try booting the distribution with "mem=1G" kernel parameter on physical hardware or using it in a 1 GB VM, or run a memory-hungry application and watch how it and the system perform.
33 • @30, ram - what is 'lightweight' now? (by Justme on 2022-06-21 04:59:38 GMT from United States)
"when compared to other bloated systemd distros it's probably using less than half as much memory." Variables beyond systemd, and in some cases the DE determine RAM usage. As @30 states, available RAM may be one such. Here are some real world figures, from the computers we are using here:
MX KDE no systemd= 704 idle 1108 Chrome w/ 2tabs Parrot KDE systemd= 1074 idle 1470 Chrome w/ 2 tabs Devuan Gnome no systemd= 790 idle 1190 Chrome w/ 2 tabs Ubuntu Gnome systemd 640 idle 1038 Chrome w/ 2 tabs MX XFCE 537 idle 1078 FF w/ 2 tabs Parrot XFCE 380 809 FF w/ 2 tabs
Parrot with KDE is the outlier, I haven't determined the reason. None of the others differ that much from Jesse's numbers in Leap. None will come close to taxing any of our computers. I expect if one is using rather old and weak hardware, it may matter.
34 • Tumbleweed or Leap? (by penguinx86 on 2022-06-21 05:27:14 GMT from United States)
I haven't used either. To me, the most important thing is wifi adapter compatibility out of box. That's why I stick with Linux Mint. Linux Mint is the ONLY distro where my Wifi just works, with no hassles. Prove to me that YOUR latest OS will be compatible with MY Wifi Adapter before I'll be willing to risk reformatting my / drive.
35 • @32 - ram usage (by Andy Prough on 2022-06-21 10:24:24 GMT from Switzerland)
>"RAM usage is relative to the total RAM size. Bigger RAM requires more page tables and other data structures to keep track of it. Programs can see that there is a lot of RAM and use it more aggressively or cache something and then drop it if there is memory pressure."
I assume Jesse does not refer to cache ram in his 530mb, but rather to ram that is unavailable to other programs because it is actively in use. A truly lightweight distro will have all but ~200mb available to other programs after boot, or ~100mb in the case of some distros.
36 • @13 Dr. Hu: (by dragonmouth on 2022-06-21 12:09:16 GMT from United States)
No need to rip out KDE Wallet. Just disable it. Just uncheck the "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem" and it will never bother you again. Works on any distro I have tried so far.
37 • @34 WiFi (by jazzaddict on 2022-06-21 12:52:20 GMT from Netherlands)
Lol, we have nothing to prove (nor do we care for uppercase words), if you're happy with a distro there is no reason to change, especially with problematic drivers.
38 • RAM etc (by wertyu on 2022-06-21 13:07:29 GMT from Australia)
@33 My observations testing various distros match yours - on this laptop at any rate (4GB RAM) systemd has nothing to do with how well it runs or not or how much memory it uses. I use Ubuntu MATE as the installed distro and do a lot of video processing and it handles that fine (as well as website browsing, email, word processing and playing music at the same time as that).
I haven't ever come close to using all the RAM or going into swap, but if it's there to be used I don't have an issue with that. To me that's using available resources for the jobs I need to do, my definition of efficiency.
I'm not an expert by any means but I've never understood the use of these terms like 'bloat' or 'lightweight' as applied by commenters here or anywhere on Linux forums as they seem to mean different things to different people (and often nothing at all). I just tend to dismiss those comments as meaningless unless backed by specific examples - I mean if you have a 2GB RAM machine (as I had before this one), using quarter of it to run the desktop environment wouldn't seem to leave much in the tank but it was still plenty for me for everything except the video processing (which I had to do by itself). I ran Ubuntu MATE on that as well and it was fine.
39 • BSD wireless support (by Otis on 2022-06-21 15:23:48 GMT from United States)
@31 Well, GhostBSD's approach may be more "seamless" than the Virtualizion-based approach of others, but it seems to throttle a very large number of potential users/machines just by elimination of network capabilities for them. I cannot understand that, beyond the developer's lack of time to just include out of the box functionality for more cards; I have three machines now of three different brands and ages and none of them can connect to the internet with GhostBSD. I see the same complaints across many machine types for that (and MidnightBSD) distro.
40 • @36, KDEWallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-21 15:31:19 GMT from Philippines)
"uncheck the "Enable KDE Wallet subsystem" " True. Just checked my settings and it's been disabled, probably by me since I'm the only user on this machine. Still, it would be nice as an opt-in, to avoid the threats of eternal damnation should one not encrypt one's passwords.
41 • @35 - RAM usage (by S. on 2022-06-21 18:47:33 GMT from Sweden)
I mean that certain applications (albeit mostly server ones) can manage their RAM caches themselves, and the Linux kernel does not account that RAM as "free" or "available" (because it does not know).
42 • GhostBSD but no encryption (by MrSparkleWonder on 2022-06-21 18:49:48 GMT from Mexico)
Love the easy to use GhostBSD system and would adopt it for my daily driver ... but, there is no encryption support during installation, and that is a deal breaker. Until GhostBSD implement this feature it is totally not useable. FreeBSD has encryption support during installation, so I don't see why GhostBSD cannot implement that feature.
I might try DragonFLY
43 • @39 - BSD wireless support (by S. on 2022-06-21 19:01:13 GMT from Norway)
I refer to the announcement of GhostBSD 22.06.15, it mentions inclusion of drivers for Broadcom cards in the default out-of-the-box kernel. They are GPLv2 licensed so I assume they are derived from Linux versions of these drivers. That, I assume, makes the whole default redistributable kernel binary image GPLed rather than BSD-licensed but it does not matter for most users. I hope they'll be glad that their cards start working with this release.
44 • BLACK Theme (by Bob on 2022-06-21 19:09:46 GMT from United States)
@18 I like dark themes as long as they have a complimentary style. But you're right about Crowz. I tested the OB version, and I like most of the features, BUT, the overall theme is #000000 black on black, with a hint of black. No thanks.
45 • OpenSuse (by James on 2022-06-21 21:38:13 GMT from United States)
How about a radio button like a lot of other polls have, like for example with this poll, it could’ve said:
I haven’t tried and do not plan to try
Or
I have tried and do not plan to try again
OpenSuse has been going down the hill for many years and become more unstable, slow and bloated. I’d rather try a project based on OpenSuse that’ll do a better job and listen to their users.
46 • @39 @43 Ghostbsd Wireless support (by krell on 2022-06-22 05:06:57 GMT from Tajikistan)
User of an old Thinkpad T410 here. Connecting to my Iphone8 WifI hotspot on Fedora, clearlinux or void is seamless and painless.
I downloaded the June latest GhostBsd in hopes that the wifi Connection would finally work. No luck. It detects the signal but refuses to connect. Perhaps they need to see that the support for Wif actually functions and not just connects?
47 • Main operating system? (by macias on 2022-06-22 06:02:43 GMT from Poland)
While I tested other distros now and then I run open/SUSE for around 20 years, not because it is that good, but because of Yast. It makes life significantly simpler. Anyway, @Jesse "it's never a distribution I've run as my main operating system for various reasons". What are your go-to distros I am curious? :-).
48 • OpenSuse (by Dr.J on 2022-06-22 11:04:25 GMT from Germany)
I am one of the neither-nor voters because OpenSuse has never convinced me. One of the reasons is certainly YaST. I still don't understand what it's all about. It reminds me a lot of things the guys from Redmont built and is so superfluous in my Linux world. You can do everything YaST can do where Linux is at home, in the terminal.
49 • Opensuse Leap (by Lucilio on 2022-06-22 13:15:42 GMT from Italy)
Reading on Reddit it seems that opensuse leap will be abandoned: I hope that a community of volunteer developers will carry on the project.
50 • KDE Wallet (by Joseph on 2022-06-22 18:42:48 GMT from United States)
I don't know why everyone finds KDE wallet such a problem. If you don't want it, select classic encryption and enter nothing for the password. Boom! Problem solved; it goes away forever.
51 • BLACK Theme target (by Rincewind III on 2022-06-22 19:12:50 GMT from New Zealand)
@ 44 • BLACK Theme
is this the final dark theme result:
“It’s the wild colour scheme that freaks me,” said Zaphod whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight, “Every time you try to operate on of these weird black controls that are labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let you know you’ve done it.”
Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
52 • Suse (by Tad Strange on 2022-06-22 19:49:45 GMT from Canada)
SuSE is something that I've always liked the idea of, but it never really gained my loyalty, and I cannot point to any one thing, other than the usual dichotomy of the stable version having stale software and the rolling not really being developed as anything other than a tech preview.
When the stars align and you happen to be shopping for an OS when a new LTS drops, then it's not so bad, perhaps, excepting Debian, which is old even when new.
53 • TrueNAS Core/Enterprise vs TrueNAS Scale (by Sitwon on 2022-06-22 20:16:30 GMT from United States)
TrueNAS CORE and Enterprise are both based on FreeBSD.
However TrueNAS SCALE is based on Linux and offers a substantially different set of features.
I can see combining TrueNAS CORE and Enterprise, but it seems like SCALE should still be considered separately.
54 • I've run out of black. (by Bob on 2022-06-22 23:07:56 GMT from United States)
@51 You got it.
"And the paper was black ... except for the tiny little area that wasn't."
Terry Pratchett, Feat of Clay
55 • @50, KDEWallet (by Dr. Hu on 2022-06-23 00:21:08 GMT from Philippines)
An annoyance, Joseph, not a problem. It's like ads jumping around or videos starting unprompted on web pages. You can make them go away, but they are still an annoyance.
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