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1 • As Douglas Adams said... (by R. Cain on 2022-04-04 00:41:47 GMT from United States)
..."There's always a very simple solution to every seemingly complicated problem."
I simply don't let anyone else use my computer.
2 • You really faked me out this week! (by Dave on 2022-04-04 01:18:19 GMT from United States)
When I see multiple distros being reviewed in the same issue of Distrowatch, I’ve gotten used to reading that they (or at least one of them) didn’t work, worked in the live session but wouldn’t install, froze up when you got to the login screen and wouldn’t go any further, etc., so you moved on to another test subject.
It’s great to see that MassOS and Neptune both seem to be solid operating systems with—assuming you didn’t just catch them on a good day—at least adequate quality control.
Thanks for the always interesting weekly read.
3 • Running latest KDE plasma desktop on Debian (by Andy Prough on 2022-04-04 01:21:34 GMT from United States)
This week's review of Nautilus noted that the distro includes an up-to-date version of KDE plasma on a stable Debian base. Debian users should also be aware that long-time Debian packager and project leader Norbert Preining maintains his own repos of the latest KDE plasma desktop for use with Debian (also works with Devuan in my experience). Instructions and updates for using these repos can be found on his blog: https://www.preining.info/blog/tag/kde/
4 • Running latest KDE plasma desktop on Debian (by Bin on 2022-04-04 04:58:02 GMT from United Kingdom)
@3
I think your information is a little out of date
https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/01/future-of-my-packages-in-debian/#comments
5 • User permissions (by Maury the Mole on 2022-04-04 08:36:14 GMT from United States)
All my users are me, so if I find someone has been nosing about where they don't belong, I just give myself a stern talking-to.
6 • user permissions (by Kazlu on 2022-04-04 08:46:31 GMT from France)
Outside of my main one, I have a couple of purpose driven users that I am the only person using. I am also the only person with Linux knowledge in my home. So all in all, locking down permissions would not be of much use against other users, and would add some inconvenience in the rare occasion where I need to browse a home directory while logged in from another user.
Now, there is still the risk of a rogue program or curious website sniffing into my /home folders. To prevent that, I use Firejail.
@5 Don't be too hard on yourself, you probably had no mischievous intentions towards yourself :D
7 • Permissions (by james on 2022-04-04 09:59:55 GMT from United States)
My home directory allows others read and execute/browse permission, but I am the only user of my laptop.
8 • Home Directory (by penguinx86 on 2022-04-04 11:53:08 GMT from United States)
I run Linux Mint Xfce on an old Dell laptop. Linux Mint is the ONLY distro that supports my Wifi adapter out of the box. Want me to use your distro? No wifi, no deal! Linux without Wifi support is totally bogus!
I'm the only one who ever uses this laptop, so home directory permissions aren't really an issue. My family is too busy with their iPads and iPhones (using Wifi of course) to care about my laptop or what's in my home directory.
On a corporate network, sysadmins can still look at my home directory anyway. In fact, corporate policies make it mandatory that they can monitor everything I do. Permissions don't really matter when Big Brother is watching you.
9 • AlmaLinux (by Otis on 2022-04-04 13:16:22 GMT from United States)
It is interesting to me that AlmaLinux made the news wrt replacement of CentOS as stated by FOSS Force, with the remarks highlighting AlmaLinux being "..ahead of the game in the technology department" along with being financially stable.
I downloaded it and installed it via USB flash and found it refreshing in many respects and I have high hopes for its success.
10 • Home alone (by Trihexagonal on 2022-04-04 13:17:24 GMT from United States)
I'm the only user on my machines but still limit permissions for the user account.
I cannot mount a drive from the user account or unmount it, can copy files from a USB stick to the Home directory but not write to the USB drive.
11 • Corporate network (by Friar Tux on 2022-04-04 14:09:05 GMT from Canada)
@8 (penquinx86) That reminded me of the last place I worked at. Each employee had their own computer/work station. Due to the enforced monthly password change, and people forgetting their passwords, our boss kept a hardcopy of all employee names and work station passwords. Often, when an employee left the company, the new recruit would get the old employee's name and password to carry on on the same work station. Or if the boss needed to quickly do something on a work station he would use an old employee's name and password. IT still had not caught on when I retired.
12 • Neptune 7 (by Wogus on 2022-04-04 14:47:43 GMT from Germany)
Neptune7, the only one based upon Debian Stable ('Bullseye') working on my Fujitsu Livebook
13 • User permissions.. (by Otis on 2022-04-04 16:06:01 GMT from United States)
sudo pw is in my head and nowhere else. Actually I could have it magic markered on the wall and nobody here would care, being as how the only other ones here are my non-Linux wife and my cat, Arnold Ziffel, who likes Linux but has trouble with typing. File access and permissions are not an issue here, but are at the lab where we have no spouses or cats but do have visitors/clients who are restricted to the Windows mess over there on an old ping-pong table.
14 • @8 Linux without Wifi support is totally bogus (by anticapitalista on 2022-04-04 16:22:44 GMT from Greece)
@8 Linux without Wifi support is totally bogus! Really?
I'm sure there are many linux users that prefer wired to wireless.
In fact, my job insists that we all connect wired and not wireless.
15 • Support, hardware (by Somewhat Reticent on 2022-04-04 17:05:10 GMT from United States)
Perhaps it should be "Wifi (hardware) without FreeD-Open-Source support is totally bogus!"
After all, why buy hardware that won't work?
16 • Alma Linux as Centos Replacement (by Abe Froman on 2022-04-04 18:25:33 GMT from United States)
I've used both since their initial release. They are RHEL clones. They both have the support of major players in the industry. For the majority of users, they are functionally indistinguishable. Now there are some niche functionality that one offers and other doesn't that will determine best use cases. But overall, only time will tell if one eventually becomes the default replacement for CentOS.
17 • @14, @15 WiFi support (by Maury the Mole on 2022-04-04 22:09:01 GMT from Philippines)
@14, "I'm sure there are many linux users that prefer wired to wireless." The magic word is "prefer". Unless I want to rewire my house, or run long wires along the baseboards, or in the case of laptops, across the rooms or out to the yard, I will prefer WiFi, thank you! Other than some philosophical idea, there's no reason a Linux distro cannot be competent at both, as you should well know.
@15, "Wifi (hardware) without FreeD-Open-Source support is totally bogus!" If it involved combing the world for hardware by manufacturers tht decided to invest money and resources on firmware required by < 1% of users who feel their principles violated, I would change OS, not hardware. My OS is a tool. I own it. It does not own me.
18 • Directory Access (by john on 2022-04-04 23:33:35 GMT from Canada)
For my own personal System, I block access. On my workstation at work, the same. Some people can login via ssh via keys (no Passwords) on the local network.
On the servers at work I support, I allow people to browse and have execute permissions for my home dir.
19 • @8 @14 @17 (by dave on 2022-04-05 01:32:47 GMT from United States)
I'm pretty sure the key words are 'totally bogus' and 'old Dell laptop' .. Linux without out-of-the-box support for some legacy wireless adapter might be inconvenient for a few people, but it's definitely not 'totally bogus', nor is it an insurmountable obstacle. I've never encountered a modern Linux distro that is incapable of using wifi (not that I care, since I don't use it) ..it's simply a matter of whether or not functionality is included for a particular controller. The issue of what people 'prefer' goes in both directions and both can be construed as philosophical choices.
Forcing ancient hardware to use Linux Mint is quite a contradiction to reconcile in my opinion. If @8 learned how to configure his wireless device (probably not that difficult) he would have the freedom to use leaner, more vintage-appropriate distros, instead of being shackled to a relatively resource-hungry distro, such as Linux Mint. Heck, he might even help fellow users in the process. Heck, if he asked for help, someone would probably even figure it out for him.
If I may employ the same exaggeration, I would argue that any house that isn't wired for ethernet is 'totally bogus' .. and that it's 'totally bogus' to blanket ones home in radio pollution when the router is probably a few feet away 99% of the time you're using the computer. I'm sure the birds and bees probably feel that wifi is 'totally bogus'.
20 • MassOS (by mrkrell on 2022-04-05 01:49:30 GMT from Tajikistan)
Sounds cool and sounds desktop oriented so I will give this a try even though I don't distrohop uch these days, Happy Fedora 34 user here,
21 • Neptune Plasma? (by R Hoagland on 2022-04-05 02:48:33 GMT from United States)
The Plasma desktop version appears to be the same as the default Bullseye release, or am I missing something?
@4: KDE/Plasma 5.24 for Debian
https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/02/kde-plasma-5-24-for-debian/
22 • Alma/Cent (by Otis on 2022-04-05 13:06:45 GMT from United States)
@16 Yep, and those similarities are predictable in that with AlmaLinux having a downstream position in development, this will likely continue unless the team makes some pretty important development changes, perhaps with an eye toward different versions or perhaps even becoming gradually more independant (unlikely, of course, given their CloudLinux relationship).
FWIW I have a different feeling navigating Alma than I do Cent and Fedora, etc. There's another sort of energy.. can't put my finger on it yet but I think it may have to do with it being 1:1 binary compatible with CentOS versions previous to CentOS Stream and that they're building from there.
23 • @15 (by Alex on 2022-04-05 13:39:15 GMT from United States)
My personal computers are generally second-hand and price (free is good) is higher on my criteria than specific wifi adapter. I am typing this from a non-descript Dell Inspiron running Linux Lite (a Ubuntu derivative) - I am happy that the linux kernel now includes Broadcom support. It was a pain running a cable to my router until I could download the right package to get wifi running in the old days.
24 • Permissions (by Robert on 2022-04-05 15:48:37 GMT from United States)
My home directory is 755. If it was a shared computer I would lock it down more, but since the only access to the machine is my user or root, changing the perms wouldn't accomplish much.
25 • Permissions (by Dr.J on 2022-04-05 16:00:30 GMT from Germany)
My home directory is 711. My notebook is a single user machine with hard disk encryption, so there is no need for more restrictions when the system is up.
26 • Could wireless be the new wire? (by Tad Strange on 2022-04-05 18:42:42 GMT from Canada)
Though it might prove shocking, wifi has suddenly become the dominant form of home and soho networking.
Dominant to the point where consumer and small business devices are increasingly not being provisioned with RJ45 sockets.
Even worse, for lovers of CAT6 UTP, these new fangled mesh APs mean that less and less is cable being run to disparate access points in a building.
I need to pull out my crimper now and then, just to lubricate it and check it for rust.
And to give it some love.
And before anyone thinks that old-laptop guy gets off easy - Jumping through hoops, or researching some esoteric workaround to get old equipment working with new software is the price that you pay when your price is free.
And that is certainly not a problem with only the Linux ecosystem.
K..done being grumpy
27 • @15 (by Alex on 2022-04-05 21:46:15 GMT from United States)
My personal computers are generally second-hand and price (free is good) is higher on my criteria than specific wifi adapter. I am typing this from a non-descript Dell Inspiron running Linux Lite (a Ubuntu derivative) - I am happy that the linux kernel now includes Broadcom support. It was a pain running a cable to my router until I could download the right package to get wifi running in the old days.
28 • Faye (by Tech in San Diego on 2022-04-06 04:57:38 GMT from United States)
I installed Neptune 7, "Faye", and was very impressed with the distro, and that's saying a lot for a diehard openSUSE Tumbleweed fan. It's surprisingly quick, has a small footprint, and discovered all my hardware flawlessly. It's very similar to Debian "non-free". It also uses ZSwap instead of ZRAM which I found interesting. Note: More research needs to be done on my part to understand the potential benefits of ZSwap vs ZRAM on my system.
The only complaint that I have is that it does not notify me when I make a change to the system settings. You have to remember to click "apply" after making any changes, otherwise they won't be saved and there is no warning message, like other distro's provide, if you forget to apply any changes. The other issue I discovered was that the Firefox browser did not automatically update. You have to go to Help, About, and then it would notify you that there is a newer version and then perform the necessary update.
Overall it was a very good experience.
29 • wireless @ 26 (by Loup on 2022-04-06 23:51:35 GMT from Canada)
Even worse, for lovers of CAT6 UTP, these new fangled mesh APs mean that less and less is cable being run to disparate access points in a building.
For shure ... a business owner will risk security with wireless guizmo lol
Just to inform you, for a business cabling and install is a direct fiscal deduction ... so why would a business chose wireless over wire ?
Let me think .... bad consultant maybe
Anyway not worth being grumpy, that i agree with
30 • AlmaLinux (by RetiredIT on 2022-04-07 12:16:52 GMT from United States)
I have tested AlmaLinux twice in the past several months. Despite installing OK I found a huge deal breaker: it will not recognize a USB flash drive! I don't have time to scour the web and look up what to do to fix that problem which I have NEVER seen while testing dozens of different distros. It also fails when trying to install and run packages using Flatpak. Rocky Linux installs and works fine with flash drives and Flatpak. Just in those two things Rocky does rings around Alma! Need I say more?
31 • AlmaLinux & RockyLinux (by zcatav on 2022-04-07 16:06:39 GMT from Turkey)
@30 • AlmaLinux (by RetiredIT
I guess AlmaLinux is made for server and Rocky Linux Desktop. ;-)
32 • MassOs (by Maou on 2022-04-07 18:48:01 GMT from United Kingdom)
MassOs looks promising, I'll have to wait for the new improvements.
About home directory permissions, me is the only user so no worries here also using FDE.
33 • Audio transcription (by Yamato on 2022-04-08 18:54:29 GMT from Sweden)
Thanks for the audio format, it's awesome when you want to work on something hearing the DW on phones.
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