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1 • Bittorrent (by alveox on 2020-09-21 01:39:05 GMT from Indonesia)
On my network, downloading linux iso using torrent is faster than other way. I guess my ISP is limiting bandwith on Iso file.
2 • garuda, bsd, et al (by torpedo on 2020-09-21 02:40:26 GMT from New Zealand)
So what you name a thing is important. The name 'garuda' is that of an Indian deity, so no thanks, even if it looks promising as a distro. Same for all the BSDs and their devil mascot - nope. That includes Apple, a long time derivative and devotee of theirs.
My 10c. YVMV - Your Values May Vary as we all have free choice. It is a line in the sand for me.
3 • Downloading a Distro (by Rev_Don on 2020-09-21 03:05:48 GMT from United States)
If there is a Torrent available that is always my first choice. I then use whatever other option is available if there isn't a torrent. My last download was a direct dlownload from HTTPS as that was the only option when I downloaded it.
4 • .iso download (by Titus_Groan on 2020-09-21 03:35:01 GMT from New Zealand)
last one was via rsync.
my preferred options:
option #1: rsync to update any wanted .iso. if I have a recent previous version.
saves bandwidth and time usually. automatically checks .iso authenticity as well. #SHA512
option #2: direct download of a net-install type .iso (usually only a 100 or so MB)
if not one I have, and no net-install type of .iso available,
option #3: use a torrent client. k,q or deluge.
last resort
option #4: direct download
5 • Garuda, BSD, et al (by Tran Older on 2020-09-21 04:27:43 GMT from Vietnam)
Garuda appeared in the Coats of Arms of the Republic of Indonesia (mainly Muslim) and the Kingdom of Thailand (mainly Buddhist). The devil FreeBSD mascot and the bubble fish OpenBSD mascot are cute. Garuda and FuguIta are free like free beer.
6 • Download options (by LiuYan on 2020-09-21 04:37:19 GMT from United States)
For download options, I prefer HTTP/HTTPS.
* Mirror sites which provides FTP protocol is decreasing.
* Torrent/P2P wins at speed, but it will miss one key information which I care:
The Last-Modified-Time of a file.
* Physical media is useful when there's no internet.
7 • Follow up question for today's poll (by Mondo on 2020-09-21 04:47:50 GMT from United States)
I like seeing the "How did you download your latest ISO?" poll today. I nearly always use my BitTorrent client, Transmission,because it generates the sha256sum and I use that to verify against the developer's to make sure that I've got a clean, safe copy. If it doesn't verify, I delete it and try again. I have NEVER created install media without verifying the source!
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My suggestion for your next poll question is to ask how many, or whether, people verify their images before creating media or installing it. I'm praying that it's rare to find someone that doesn't verify. However, I have recently heard (on a podcast I used to highly trust) that they didn't think that was necessary. Even though THEIR images had recently been compromised!
.
Thanks for listening,
Mondo
8 • Garuda (by Bobbie Sellers on 2020-09-21 04:59:53 GMT from United States)
Where did you find the checksums?
I looked and could not locate these to me vital facts.
bliss
9 • Garuda Linux (by anor on 2020-09-21 05:07:59 GMT from Malaysia)
Garuda is Indonesia national airline. So i thought Garuda Linux is from Indonesia but i was wrong. Actually there was a distro name Garuda OS from Indonesia.
10 • Garuda (by Anonymous on 2020-09-21 05:31:29 GMT from United States)
What Garuda needs is a stock install without all the tweaks. It's too much. Maybe a stock setup with the option with their garuda program to install the rest.
11 • Garuda and OS names, @2 (by WhatMeWorry on 2020-09-21 05:38:26 GMT from United States)
Tried Garuda KDE Lite a few weeks ago. While I didn't run into all the problems Jesse did, it still struck me as having many of the inconveniences of sometihing like Windows with none of the advantages. ONe note: The mentioned GUI package manager is Pamac, which works flawlessly on Manjaro and others.
@2 -The name Linux is derived from "Linus," which in turn comes from "Linos," the son of the Greek god Apollo. Also, the other famous Linus is the leader of a cult of believers in the Great Pumpkin. So you may want to reconsider Linux use.
12 • Download (by Anon on 2020-09-21 05:55:54 GMT from Finland)
I used zsync to grab the latest Ubuntu ISO, giving it as input the previous version. It only downloads the differences.
13 • Thimeshift (by Gerald on 2020-09-21 08:34:04 GMT from Austria)
I resently discovered that you can restore Thimeshift snapshots also "offline" from a live CD:
https://github.com/teejee2008/timeshift/wiki/Restoring-Snapshots
That is really an important feature for restoring snapshot.
Also with snapper this is possible if you configure it for this case:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Snapper
So, with this feature i will try again a rolling release.
14 • downloading ISOs (by MikeOh Shark on 2020-09-21 11:48:24 GMT from Netherlands)
I have used Transmission but I downloaded the last two or three ISOs before I could find a torrent. I selected Another download method because I used axel and some mirrors.
15 • Verification poll (by Jesse on 2020-09-21 13:16:36 GMT from Canada)
@7: "My suggestion for your next poll question is to ask how many, or whether, people verify their images before creating media or installing it. I'm praying that it's rare to find someone that doesn't verify."
We ran that poll already. https://distrowatch.com/polls.php?poll=168
About a third of respondents said they do not verify download images. About 9% said they rely on their torrent client to check, which only guards against download corruption. And 37% said they use checksums, which usually just guards against corruption, not malicious tampering. Only 2% said they verify against a signing key which guards against both corruption and malicious altering of the file.
16 • bittorrent & pi (by ray carter on 2020-09-21 14:01:28 GMT from United States)
The main reason I use bittorrent is: that seems to be the only way to download a raspberry pi os image if you want it today.
17 • ISO Downloads (by Kevin on 2020-09-21 14:16:03 GMT from United States)
For ISO, source code, etc., downloads I prefer direct links I can download from the command line with wget. I hate download links that require a browser.
18 • Poll options... (by Friar Tux on 2020-09-21 14:25:06 GMT from Canada)
The poll didn't actually have an option I could use to vote. "All of the above." I use whatever is available. It really doesn't matter, not in this day and age. Because of the speed "all of the above" download with the choice doesn't really make any difference - none that I have noticed, anyway.
As for checksums, if I feel like bothering, maybe. I never try out distros on my "work" computer. I got mildly scorched once, way back when, when a distro I was installing sort of took over the PC and changed the permissions of my work distro so I could not open any files or folders. Since then, I use a dedicated PC/laptop for testing. I haven't had an issue in years - knock-on-wood (* as he raps himself on the head *).
@2 Says the guy using "torpedo" as his name. Son, do a word/name search of the English language and you, with that attitude, will soon want to use Russian or Chinese (French, German, Italian, and Spanish have the same issues as English). Check it out.
19 • ISO download (by voidpin on 2020-09-21 14:27:56 GMT from Sweden)
Direct link, although I don't do it that often.
I'm happy with my OS's and have no plan to change.
Void installed in October 2017 and, NetBSD which allows upgrades across versions. So, the only times I need a new ISO is when there's a new NetBSD release. Actually, not even then, as I may as well upgrade by downloading the source sets directly, unpack and reboot.
20 • Garuda and @10 (by Carlos Felipe Araújo on 2020-09-21 15:10:53 GMT from Brazil)
"What Garuda needs is a stock install without all the tweaks. It's too much. "
Yes, you're right. It's so hard find a good project, good distros with a clean software (no bloatwares), vainilla desktop with small tweaks. I hate when the distros brings almost 200 megabytes in themes, ícons and wallpapers
21 • Garuda (by grraf on 2020-09-21 18:00:44 GMT from Romania)
A pretty nice concept but the amount of bloat even on the 'lite' version is too much they focus on offering a fully decked experience with all the bells and whistles but forget the fact that what ever gains the zen kernel gives are lost to a huge OS footprint and a massive amount of background apps tying up cpu cores thus defeating the purpose of having a lean system that can dedicate all its resources to gaming.
22 • poll (by Myrtle on 2020-09-21 21:43:53 GMT from United States)
I wonder if I'm the only one who voted "http" before noticing the "https" choice.
Too big of a hurry. ;)
23 • @18 Poll Options. (by Rev_Don on 2020-09-21 22:07:16 GMT from United States)
All of the above would not apply here as it asked "How did you download your latest ISO?". Unless you downloaded it multiple times using different methods simultaneously you only used ONE method.
All of the above would have been a good option if it asked what method do you prefer, but it did NOT ask that.
24 • Poll meaning. (by Friar Tux on 2020-09-21 22:21:42 GMT from Canada)
@23 (Rev_Don) Yup, got that meaning when I read it. However, there was/is also the implied meaning of what do we generally go. I went with the implied meaning. I don't think when we ask a question in that form we intend to mean that one isolated time. Usually, if that is the case we express it while asking. Anyway, I chose to go with the implied meaning.
25 • Most recent ISO download method (by Tom0 on 2020-09-21 22:22:39 GMT from United Kingdom)
As I'm a PCLinuxOS user and it's a rolling release, so my most recent ISO download method happened about 5+ years ago. Well I have no idea how I downloaded it, or did I buy a distro DVD or CD? Don't know.
26 • poll choice (by abbreviated-name on 2020-09-21 23:00:44 GMT from Australia)
I connect via prepaid 4G mobile broadband, so seeding isn't really practical (I think), How i download an iso...
find download link, copy url(s) inc the md5s etc, may need cleaning up, e.g. if it's from sourceforge it may have /download at the end of the url, open terminal and...
wget -c next-distro.iso
Hopefully I answered correctly, "I use direct HTTPS"
27 • Most recent ISO download method (by Mark on 2020-09-22 00:52:39 GMT from United States)
I voted for "direct HTTPS"
( although I use bittorrent fairly often... )
***
I wanted to expand on a comment from @26, concerning "wget."
I was downloading a Debian distro a couple of years ago, and saw their command recommendations. One involved wget, and another used curl.
I had used wget with an input file, but I wasn't familiar with its many, varied capabilities.
"wget --help" lead to a "Download" option...
-c, --continue resume getting a partially-downloaded file
So I had to do it -- I had to check it out and make sure it worked!
I picked a small distro (a net install) and ran
wget -c someSmallDistro.iso
and I interrupted it several times with ctl+c, then resumed the download by issuing the original command.
At the end, the checksum "checked!"
While I have broadband, and re-downloading an ISO wouldn't be that big of a deal, I do like to use wget with the continue option as a consideration to host.
I'm relatively new to linux, so I'll share another tip for anyone with less experience than me.
Open a terminal, click-and-drag the ISO file link to the command line -- BUT DON'T HIT ENTER JUST YET.
Hit the "home" key, and at the beginning of the command, type "wget -c " in front of the link, and then hit enter -- to take advantage of a really nice wget feature.
( my apologies for boring the more knowledgeable patrons... )
Regards,
Mark
28 • my employer blocks bittorrent (by Matt on 2020-09-22 02:59:42 GMT from United States)
I am forced to directly download iso files because bittorrent is forbidden by my employer. I would not even risk trying to circumvent that. It is a shame because I would be happy to host Linux torrents from my desktop at work. I'm not the one paying for the bandwidth, so I do as I am told.
29 • checksums for Garuda (by some random user on 2020-09-22 22:01:50 GMT from United States)
@8
"Where did you find the checksums?
I looked and could not locate these to me vital facts."
Took a while to find it, but I think I found it.
Points to their forum.
https://forum.garudalinux.org/t/sha256-or-sha512-for-downloads-of-iso/50
30 • ISO download alphabet (by Stefan on 2020-09-23 01:30:10 GMT from Brazil)
"D" is for Debian.
"W" is for wget.
"DW" is for DistroWatch.
31 • Alphabet (by vern on 2020-09-23 13:04:24 GMT from United States)
"A" = Arch
"B" = BunsenLabs
"C"= Centos
32 • Alphabet 2 (by Friar Tux on 2020-09-23 13:38:12 GMT from Canada)
CD = common dirt
DVD = dirt very digitized
FAT32 = don't step on a scale
EXFAT = successful diet
33 • @24 Re Poll Meaning (by Rev_Don on 2020-09-24 01:38:25 GMT from United States)
I don't see how or why anyone would get that implication from the way the poll is worded unless they do not understand English. The specifically stated "LAST DISTRO". There is no way to infer that to mean EVERY or the MAJORITY of Distros. Sorry, but just no.
34 • Alphabet 3 (by alphaberto on 2020-09-24 05:47:14 GMT from Australia)
VFAT = don't step on a big scale
ReiserFS = don't get too excited over Linux
BSD = Back Side Distro
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