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1 • Alternative to GNU/Linux (by EssexSun on 2020-07-27 01:16:31 GMT from United Kingdom)
OpenIndiana/Illumos
2 • Other open source OSes (by Elcaset on 2020-07-27 01:30:31 GMT from Australia)
I run OpenWrt,Tomato & Android.
3 • Other Open Source OS (by Ed on 2020-07-27 01:43:35 GMT from United States)
MorphOS.
4 • dahliaOS (by Newby on 2020-07-27 01:49:16 GMT from Canada)
At the end of this week's edition, on the waiting list is something called dahliaOS.
It apparently contains a new desktop called pangolin.
Alarm bells start going off in my head.
Isn't that the critter some scientists claim is the likely missing link in transferring the covid corona virus from bats to humans???
Could this be some diabolic scheme to now transfer covid to our PC's???
Not wanting to raise any undue panic in these parts (and especially not wanting to get banned here), I did what any good reporter would do - I attempted to check out the "facts".
Proceeded to dahlia website and found section about the pangolin desktop. That takes us to the pangolin developers page on GitHub. Code is there, but unless I missed it, no history of project (ie - explanation for origin of picking name as opposed to index of releases). OK, I am apparently a terrible reporter. Maybe the answer is there under my nose, but I have t run a genetic sequencing on the source code. Oops, another problem; it's written in "flutter". I seem to have waded in waay above my depth.
That does seem to be an interesting desktop. So tempting to look at; sort of like opening an email from an unknown source.
Anyway, do we have a good conspiracy theory here? Do we have any Sherlock type code sleuths out there?
Disclaimer: With everyone being so stressed out, this is meant to give a good laugh. Hopefully nobody will take offense........
5 • dahliaOS (by mandatory on 2020-07-27 02:32:37 GMT from United States)
Yes.
(It would have been funnier if you had left off the disclaimer. Oh the humanity.)
6 • Beta Linux Through Chrome (by Roy on 2020-07-27 02:50:00 GMT from United States)
The only way I was getting Chrome was through Windows till I got the HP Chromebook 11.6. I found that the Beta Linux is Buster through Debian. It gives me a terminal like with my regular Linux through Ubuntu Cinnamon Remix 2020.
7 • Non-Linux open source OS (by TheTKS on 2020-07-27 03:12:43 GMT from Canada)
OpenBSD dedicated installation on one box, and use it regularly.
I play around every once in awhile with Haiku live, but have never installed it. Tried OpenIndiana live a couple of times.
It's good to have a look from time to time at what else is out there and what's new.
TKS
8 • Other Open Source OS-MorphOS (by Terry on 2020-07-27 03:25:35 GMT from United States)
@3 Unfortunately hardly anyone is using G5 Macs or lower or old AMIGA computers ro run MorphOS...what a pity :o(
Your in the old days...and way behind the times. We are in the year 2020 now. Get a new computer.
9 • Non-Linux Open Source (by anonymous on 2020-07-27 03:37:34 GMT from United States)
I run NetBSD with twm and X apps on a spare 2-core dell inspiron that I have lying around. I had slackware installed on it, but it kept making this horrible grinding sound. Since I've put NetBSD on it, the machine runs so quietly that I forget that it is even on. I don't use it for much, really. Some (very) basic browsing with netsurf, and mostly to consume media via xmms and xine. It has definitely piqued my interest in the *BSD side of things. I dabbled with IllumOS here and there over the years, but it never quite stuck. OpenIndiana is decent for desktops, but other than native ZFS and snapshot/rollback features, it didn't offer me anything that a desktop focused Linux distro couldn't provide. I will admit, however, that I find it very nice to have other options outside of Linux, especially with so many questionable corporations becoming a little too chummy with Linux, lately. GhostBSD is also a nice fallback option.
10 • opnsense firewall / router (by James H on 2020-07-27 04:17:35 GMT from New Zealand)
I use opnsense on a spare core i5 desktop machine for firewall, lagg group and fibre internet at home. Much better control than the broadband company supplied modem - that's for sure! (they even put a sneaky backdoor in for remote administration..)
11 • Non-Linux Open Source (by voidpin on 2020-07-27 04:36:52 GMT from Sweden)
I run NetBSD and use it on a daily basis. Play with SculptOS every now and then.
12 • Artix - now which inti and why (by yrotadnam on 2020-07-27 04:45:00 GMT from New Zealand)
Thank you Bernhard for an excellent review of a distro I had somehow not heard of. I'm on a journey away from systemd and Debian/Ubuntu/Mint... at least got to the Arches with Manjaro, but they too use systemd. Artix will merit a look. Now I have a new problem - which init system of the three they offer fits what scenario / usecase? Is there someplace I can look for a comparison? Each must exist for its own reasons, just like all the DE's we can pick from, and all those countless Linux distros.
13 • Alternative OS (by speedytux on 2020-07-27 06:24:31 GMT from France)
I run in virtualbox Guix, a GNU distribution with Hurd as a kernel.
14 • BSDs, Haiku (by SuperOscar on 2020-07-27 06:32:32 GMT from Finland)
I have tested but do not regularly run any other open source OSes.
I wish I could actually use BSDs, but FreeBSD is the only one that reasonably seems to support UTF-8. With the others, it’s always a struggle to even be able to type in the names of my files!
Haiku feels great but it’s not ready to use on a daily basis.
ReactOS usually crashes every time I try to use it :)
15 • Non-Linux OS (by Alexandru on 2020-07-27 06:56:51 GMT from Austria)
I really tried all of the listed alternatives and others, but now I choose "I run some of the above". I do not more run MINIX and ReactOS. On the other hand, I run OpenIndiana. Additionally, I in the past tried more exotic OSes, such as Debian GNU/Hurd, Plan 9, ColibryOS, HelenOS and almost anything else I could install.
16 • Footnote (by barnabyh on 2020-07-27 08:54:42 GMT from United Kingdom)
Thank you, yrotadnam. To answer your question, there are several places you can find this information.
To get an idea of the features, pros and cons of each of these you might consult this overview for example https://www.slant.co/topics/4663/~linux-init-systems, check out the Gentoo and Arch Wikis or hop to this comparison at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems.
17 • Templeos And fpcdos (by Alternative on 2020-07-27 09:36:02 GMT from United States)
Templeos os And fpc dos
18 • FreeBSD (by Will on 2020-07-27 09:47:26 GMT from United States)
I use FreeBSD - much more stable than most Linuxes in my experience (run both all the time). The cutting edge goes to Linux of course and there's a learning curve involved that is steeper than Linux when it comes to getting everything working and installed. But for server processes, FreeBSD is actually very straightforward and reliable. If I were recommending one over the other, I would say Linux is great for newbs and lazy admins, game players, or grandparents. FreeBSD is for developers, serious admins, middle aged folks. A good though perhaps slightly flawed analogy would be Linux is to FreeBSD as Z80 or Ferrari is to Volvo or Mercedes. One's fast and fun and sleek, the other is spacious, and it's gonna run 800,000 miles :).
19 • rolling releases vs static releases (by TuxRaider on 2020-07-27 10:36:06 GMT from United States)
i stick with static releases because they tend to be more stable and reliable, like the article says, "dont want any surprises" so i avoid arch, artix, manjaro, and others that want to ride the crest of the bleeding edge software,
and alternative open source OSs & software, i have used FreeBSD & NetBSD, but found them a little arcane and cumbersome having to relearn what i do on Linux with ease, i have used Tomato and DD-WRT on a Linksys router but i think those are built out of Linux, i have tried ReactOS and it installed but would never boot up after the install finished so ReactOS dont really count,
20 • Artix review, Pamac, Octopi (by Angel on 2020-07-27 10:51:48 GMT from Philippines)
"Pamac works well but requires a lot of scrolling as it always shows installed packages first."
There is a sorting function. (Top right) Sorting by relevance is default, which shows installed packages first, but you can change it to sort by name, repository, size and date. The search function also works quite well, just start typing when Pamac is focused. I'm a fan of Synaptic, and so far I've found nothing as good or better, but Pamac comes close.
Octopi works fine on my Plasma VM. requiring only my password. It does have kdesu installed by default, so that may make a difference. Gksu is available in the AUR if needed for Cinnamon.
21 • Other Open Source OS (by Ed on 2020-07-27 11:19:22 GMT from United States)
@8 The same could be said for some of the other OS mentioned. And MorphOS is not my main OS. It's just a hobby. Although, I did own several Amigas and did a lot of programming on them as well.
Anyway, I do have a "new" computer and my main OS is mine, Liquid Lemur Linux (I still develop it for personal use).
22 • Atrix Linux - Current Octopi status & init selection answer. (by linuxer on 2020-07-27 11:24:23 GMT from Greece)
Adding some notes:
Octopi 0.9.0 which is currently in our repos, is the same that Arch Linux has, so yes, it depends on the depreciated gksu.
I hope that we will shift to 0.10.0, which uses Octopi-sudo instead.
For the time being, 0.10.0 exists on AUR, alone with the relative notifiers, as separated packages.
The selection of init system, is a definitely a personal matter of taste, but I would suggest people to read our Wiki pages, in order to select:
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/OpenRC https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Runit https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/S6
Thank you for the review Bernhard.
23 • Rolling release distros (by Otis on 2020-07-27 12:13:02 GMT from United States)
Thank you for using Manjaro as the example of a rolling release in your answer to the query about updating/upgrading. It's one of those that don't break upon installing updated software (an issue I've had off and on over several rolling release distros).
24 • Linux/BSD (by Dave Postles on 2020-07-27 13:25:34 GMT from United Kingdom)
'I would say Linux is great for newbs and lazy admins, game players, or grandparents.' and scientists, NYSE and LSE, and the world's top 500 computers?
25 • non-Linux open source operating systems (by Sitwon on 2020-07-27 13:42:25 GMT from United States)
If we consider busybox/Linux and Android to fall under the larger umbrella of Linux, then I do not currently run any non-Linux open source OSes.
However, I have in the past, and a I plan to in the future. So I am still interested in news about non-Linux OSes. But I would expect that the vast majority of DW Weeklies should continue to cover */Linux and GNU/* distros.
There are other communities that cover the *BSDs, Solaris and it's descendants, and other comparatively niche alternatives.
26 • @24 - Fair enough (by Will on 2020-07-27 13:50:26 GMT from United States)
Fair enough, I forget about the RedHats an enterprise versions. But, yeah, Linux can be stable :). So, I retract the stability sentiment - although, on the whole, I think it's true enough. But I'm not out to start a flame war. The average user or admin wouldn't even recognize those systems as being of the Linux variety they'd ever see anyway.
27 • Artix (by Andy Prough on 2020-07-27 14:45:24 GMT from United States)
Artix has been a pleasure to work with over the past year. It's not usually my daily production machine, but I have used it for that and it has always performed well. KDE and DWM run extremely fast on an Artix setup. I've gotten Artix + DWM down to 90 mb of ram in use.
Cinnamon has always given me problems on any distro I tried it on. In recent years it's been about twice as heavy on CPU use as KDE or XFCE when I've tried it, so I avoid it.
When choosing an init manager on Artix, keep in mind that s6 is still new and may have some rough edges, runit is the smallest and seems fastest, and openRC is the one that is a little larger but seems best supported. If you want a very fast and stable system, openRC would be a good choice.
28 • CPU usage (by barnabyh on 2020-07-27 14:53:39 GMT from Germany)
Thank you linuxer, much appreciated. These links will be handy.
I went back one more time and have finally found the reason for the high CPU usage which was the service for my VPN client. Apologies for that as it is not due to the kernel or Artix per se.
But it illustrates another issue, which is using programs written to start up with another init system that do not have a, in this case, runit service package and trying to create your own when not experienced with this init.
Removing the custom VPN package solved this and CPU is now down to the 5-8 % range.
This will be something to ponder for new users who need to start services when asking themselves which one to choose. Perhaps go for the more traditional OpenRC in this case.
29 • OSOS (by Cheker on 2020-07-27 14:55:33 GMT from Portugal)
Every now and then I check out how ReactOS is doing - I've managed to do some things in a VM, could never get it to boot on baremetal though. It's one of those things that I need to see completed one of these days because I love the concept.
30 • dahliaOS "pangolin" desktop (by Noah on 2020-07-27 15:01:04 GMT from United States)
haha, uh, it's named after animals with a shell (we came up with it in February 2019) xD
31 • That about Artix (by Otis on 2020-07-27 15:23:09 GMT from United States)
I found it not stable.. admittedly only trying it once for a day earlier this year. It was a struggle all day. I went with OpenRC and was at first generally happy with that, but don't they just stuff openrc and runit files directly from the master branch of either Gentoo or Void Linux into a PKGBUILD and call it "stable?" Seems like a ticking time bomb, to be a bit hyperbolic. ;)
I generally like parts of the distro's concept.
32 • Rolling release distros (by David on 2020-07-27 15:41:32 GMT from United Kingdom)
Rolling release distros are not all "bleeding edge" nor all prone to unexpected surprises. Last Christmas for various reasons I switched, rather apprehensively, from CentOS to PCLinuxOS. The only surprise so far was when updating python-pillow caused Pysol to stop working — and the developer got my one and only game repaired in 24 hours!
33 • FreeBSD (by User141 on 2020-07-27 16:00:00 GMT from United States)
I use Nomad BSD. Its based on FreeBSD and can run on or installed from a persistent Live USB stick. Theres a hard drive installer.
34 • Artix and other non-Linux OSes (by Jyrki on 2020-07-27 17:16:53 GMT from Czechia)
I have been running Artix since the day it got born. It had few issues right after the project started. But within half a year all got resolved and it got rock solid. When it comes to my own data, it's the only Linux distro I trust and I use. I try other Linux distros from time to time in Virtualbox but it just convince me that there is no other Linux distro suitable for me. When it comes to non-Linux OSes, OpenBSD is the most interesting, complete and perfect OS out there. Very simplistic, straight-forward and easy to use. Whenever I work it, I appreciate perfect documentation, choice of software and overall system cleanliness. It's not the fastest OS, but that's often not so important. It's also interesting how well it works with UEFI, hibernate and sleep works perfectly if you're using ThinkPad (developers use it too). Upgrading to newer verion also works very well. I also run NetBSD, it's interesting piece of software but hardware support is not as good as with OpenBSD. I run DragonFlyBSD on one pc and it's fine though a bit incomplete (eg wifi, it has same issues as FreeBSD does, which is not so surprising). The only way to upgrade is to build kernel and world. I tried other OSes in Virtualbox, eg. ReactOS but I don't know any apps I would like to use it for. Minix, Haiku....Haiku is a system I would like to try a bit more but I found it impossible to install it on real hardware....
35 • Artix (by Martin on 2020-07-27 17:54:38 GMT from United Kingdom)
Another happy Artix user here, I have it installed on two desktops andone laptop. They all have run almost faultlessly so far. A very helpful forum isalways ready to help, I highly recomend this distro.
36 • shamed to say, i dont run any otherish other than linux (by fonz on 2020-07-27 18:14:20 GMT from Indonesia)
nice review of artix IMHO, very lengthy. it makes me want to try it soon as my older laptop with 50GB SSD is annoying me. win10 keeps complaining about not enough space, and with ccleaner (crap cleaner) and custom .INI, it detected over 10GBs of win10 trash (caches, crashes, logs, backups and whatnot). and some other stuff auto installed (very malware like) by them adding up another 10GBs. go figure -_-
there are some pretty fun new OSs on the waiting list, wonder if i should jump into the deep end before trying out a noob friendly BSD...
37 • BSD (by Martin on 2020-07-27 19:44:42 GMT from United Kingdom)
@36 Try NomadBSD for a user friendly BSD.
38 • source alternatives to Linux (by Visopsys or on 2020-07-27 20:41:31 GMT from Hungary)
KolibliOS and MenuetOS are cool too. [DW lists Kolibri] They are fast, cause they're small and simple. FreeDOS for some games on retroPC UBports on my LG Nexus5
On the list to play with: - Ghost OS (ghostkernel) - SerenityOS - HelenOS - Genode OS - Android-x86 (& co) - MorphOS (for my G4) And yes, they're ALL active :)
And hardly waiting to Syllable Desktop to resurrect ... ...
(http://simplicitylinux.org/ is up again) (Makulu Shift Tablet looks to be cool)
39 • Redox OS (by Ralph on 2020-07-27 21:01:50 GMT from Canada)
@ 38 - interesting 'playlist': you might consider adding Redox OS to it - its is a very interesting system with a Rust-based microkernel...I was able to install just fine but coudl not get networking going....
40 • RoshanTech POS OS (by frnz on 2020-07-27 21:25:28 GMT from Italy)
Wanted to try it so I downloaded the ISO. Burnt to a usb dongle. Fired up the PC but can't login. On the OS website they say for OS login user: roshantech-com pwd: roshantech.com
for me there was no way to log-in. Does anybody has a clue?
41 • Artix init choices (by yrotadnam on 2020-07-28 00:41:23 GMT from New Zealand)
@16 - thank you for those links, the Slant article is useful as they explain the why. A lot of the forums just say 'go test out all three and see what you like', but the average person does not know what to even look for, or ask the right questions. I now have the ISO (I chose openRC and Cinnamon).. next step: go and clear a test machine.
42 • @40, RosanTech password (by Angel on 2020-07-28 00:44:27 GMT from Philippines)
You might try esite.pk. (See the top of download page.) If still trying, the dev has a Facebook page. You can ask there:
https://www.facebook.com/RoshanTech/
43 • Odd Linux OS's (by Friar Tux on 2020-07-28 01:12:16 GMT from Canada)
One of my loves is to try odd OS's. I have yet to get any of the BSD's to boot for me. None work. I liked Haiku a lot EXCEPT for all the menu chasing. That makes it a 'no-go' for me. ReactOS never installs no matter the hoops I try to jump through. Makulu Linux/LinDoz... This one is hilarious. It installed and rebooted nicely, and worked beautifully. What's funny about it is that it's Linux, but everything MSWindows. You can set it to look like Windows 95, XP, 7, or 10. (Notice the 'LinDoz' in the name.) I am really surprised that Microsoft has not stomped on their collective tail. Quite configurable, even the 'Start Menu' has about a dozen themes. Of all the distros claiming to be MSWindows-like for those switching from MSWindows to Linux, THIS one is at the top of the list, numero uno!! But I do have a favourite - Q4OS/Trinity DE. This one is my toy distro. If Linux Mint ever goes with the Grim Reaper, Q4OS will replace it. KolibriOS, MinuetOS, and, MinixOS also were a bust. They either wouldn't install, or once installed, wouldn't boot. (Though, it has been a while ago since I tried them. I may play with them again.)
44 • Other open source OS (by Keith S. on 2020-07-28 01:58:06 GMT from United States)
I've been running OpenBSD on laptops and desktops for many years. It runs very well, and has had many major improvements in the last few years. I also run a couple of Linux boxes.
45 • MINIX is probably number 1 in this week's poll (by denPes on 2020-07-28 05:22:13 GMT from Belgium)
I think that everyone that runs an Intel CPU, that features the intel management system, is running Intel's own fork of Minix, since that is always running in the background.
46 • @42 RoshanTech POS OS password (by frn on 2020-07-28 11:31:30 GMT from Italy)
Thanks Angel
despite what was written on the download page at sourceforge
https://sourceforge.net/projects/roshantech-com-pos-os/
the right password is - esite.pk -
have a nice day :-)
47 • Used to run FreeBSD (by CS on 2020-07-28 15:26:19 GMT from United States)
I used to hack FreeBSD for a living back in the 4.X days. Ditched it for Linux when it was just taking too long to get stable SMP support. Boy that was a long time ago. These days I view the BSDs as hobbyist systems, nothing wrong with that I just don't have time for it.
And TempleOS guy, thanks for the smile. Sort of. Sad story really.
48 • NomadBSD (by babu Swah on 2020-07-28 15:43:39 GMT from Belgium)
@33,@37 : Fully agree with you. It's a pleasure to work with NomadBSD and the people behind the distribution are so kind. But it's true that you have a few things to learn if you are coming from Linux.
49 • BSDs and additional thoughts (by Cheker on 2020-07-28 17:06:57 GMT from Portugal)
I keep hearing a lot of good things about OpenBSD, I want to give it another go. Last time didn't go that well, it's merciless.
@43 Yes, I love Q4OS Trinity as well. It's the main OS on my laptop and I don't intend to replace it.
@17 @47 Oh man, I forgot about TempleOS, it's good to see it getting shout outs. Feel so sorry for King Terry.
50 • ChromeOS? (by James LaRue on 2020-07-28 21:15:47 GMT from United States)
I wrote that I don't use any non-Linux OSs, but upon reflection, I don't know as this was meant to include ChromeOS. I spent a lot of time thinking through the replacement of a cheap flip Chromebook. A Thinkbook, a System76 laptop? I retain an old (2011) Macbook Pro running elementary OS that I quite like. But the new Pixelbook Go, with its ability to run Debian Buster 10.4, hits a nice balance between proprietary appliance and open source options.
51 • Open source alternatives to Linux (by bison on 2020-07-29 00:19:07 GMT from United States)
I run AROS on occasion.
52 • @4 (by edcoolio on 2020-07-29 03:39:03 GMT from United States)
@4 wins the Internet for the week.
I vote conspiracy theory!
53 • RoshanTech POS OS (by Aamir Shahzad on 2020-07-29 04:44:22 GMT from Pakistan)
@40 I'm sorry, password is given on the top of the page and in the installation help pdf file.
@42 @46 thank you for pointing out.
Also "Will my Linux Distro be helpful for newbies?" issue is created on source software "Open Source Point of Sale" https://github.com/opensourcepos/opensourcepos/issues/2904
YouTube video in Urdu language
https://youtu.be/mhD8G03_dVc
54 • ReactOS??? (by tom joad on 2020-07-29 15:59:37 GMT from Germany)
Ok, I am shocked that 17 folks, as of this writing, are running ReactOS. And more shocked that 15 folks, as of this writing, are running 'all of the above.'
Really????
And 2/3, 1031, of the respondents, as of this writing, run ONLY Linux Open Source OS's.
Not sure what to make of all that. But it is something to reflect on.
55 • 17 folks (by Otis on 2020-07-29 16:04:59 GMT from United States)
@54 Are you shocked that ONLY 17 people are running ReactOS? Or that anybody at all is running it?
If only 17 people IN THE WORLD are running it, I'd be shocked. But just 17 of the respondents to a poll on one website in a field of several choices run ReactOS, that seems reasonable to me.
56 • ReactOS (by OstroL on 2020-07-29 19:19:38 GMT from Poland)
Just downloaded and tried to have a look. React OS live doesn't boot on an uefi laptop. EFI doesn't see the usb stick. The /efi/boot folder has file named bcd, which is not seen.
57 • ReactOS, (by WhatMeWorry on 2020-07-30 03:00:43 GMT from United States)
@54, 55 - I am also puzzled, if not actually shocked as to why more than 17 people in the world excluding the developers would be using ReactOS.
"The ultimate goal of ReactOS is to allow you to remove Windows and install ReactOS without the end user noticing the change." I suppose that could work for anyone still using Windows 95. But they do get many points for persistence.
58 • Open source alternatives to Linux (by BL@pp on 2020-07-30 10:33:22 GMT from Australia)
GNU+Hurd (Debian)
59 • Shocked (by Otis on 2020-07-30 12:02:49 GMT from United States)
@57 .. and #30 in the DW PHR. Far above a couple of 'buntus, Devuan, Artix, et al.
Are those 17 people the tip of the iceberg?
FWIW, I got the stick to boot but only up to the frozen detection scroll. So, I'm not the 18th.
60 • ReactOS (by Friar Tux on 2020-07-30 13:43:04 GMT from Canada)
@57 (WhatMeWorry) Points for persistence is about all there is for them to get. They've been at it for years (since 1996) and still haven't got a marketable OS. Even Gates or Apple didn't take that long. Still, you have to applaud the persistence.
61 • Artix, ReactOS (by yrotadnam on 2020-07-31 00:19:19 GMT from New Zealand)
ReactOS - 10 points for trying, -100,000 for anything actually working. I have tried it a number of times over the years - no visible progress. It remains broken. And I'm not trying it on obscure hardware, plain vanilla...
So back to Artix and this week's adventures. Vanilla gen-3 i7 laptop from 2012. Boots from CD (no USB boot on older hardware), no icon responds. On the 5th try I got the installer up. Several rounds of this and I got it to actually install. 1st boot - blank screen with just a cursor, no GUI, nothing. I just reached for my Manjaro disc, installed in about the same time, zero drama, works.
If I'm going to build a shed, I cannot wait 4 days for "hammer" to build / load.... Computers are for getting projects out the door, just sayin. An OS has to work, 1st time, every time.
62 • Artix (by barnabyh on 2020-07-31 10:29:28 GMT from Germany)
At least you tried. Shame it didn't work out. My experience showed a few creases but yours is way worse.Interesting to see that the blank screen, blinking cursor thing persists even in OpenRC edition which I believe you were going to use. Thought it may be related to runit.
I have since installed openRC KDE edition on the same testing machine and so far did not have this issue.
Have a good weekend everyone.
63 • ReactOS and others (by Jeff on 2020-08-01 14:34:42 GMT from United States)
@59 re: .. and #30 in the DW PHR That number is hits to go to the DW page and look at it, not how many actually use it.
I keep looking at non-Linux open source OS operating systems, but never get so far as trying them.
64 • phr (by Otis on 2020-08-01 16:05:55 GMT from United States)
@63 of course the PHR is the Page Hit Ranking. lmao
It's pointed out as an aside in the discussion about ReactOS garnering such a ranking in spite of being basically an ongoing ..er, difficult OS and showing (then) 17 reported users.
65 • Artix Runit / OpenRC / XFCE4 (by David on 2020-08-01 19:26:38 GMT from United States)
@61 @62
I experienced the same boot hang issue with Artix/Runit/XFCE4 several months ago on two separate i5-Haswell generation PC's, and an older i3-530 distro hopping, bare metal test unit.
After fiddling unsuccessfully with multiple BIOS setting configurations, which is where I thought the problem resided (it didn't), I abandoned Runit, and installed the OpenRC version. It booted up with no problems, but would spontaneously reboot persistently when I hit my usual "poweroff" command, so I waved the white flag of surrender with my Artix distro hop.
It wasn't until after I went racing back to plain vanilla Arch, via the Anarchy Installer - https://anarchyinstaller.org/ - that I read in one of the Arch forums that the problem may reside in an XFCE4 Session and Startup bug. One of the contributors suggested unchecking "The Xfce Settings Daemon," as a possible boot hang / shutdown workaround. I can't confirm that it will work, since I had already given up on Artix and returned to Arch, and I don't know if it would be relevant to any other DE's, but it may be worth a try for any fellow XFCE4 users that might be experiencing the same problem with your Artix installation.
My days of whining and crying about systemd bloat and operational issues are over, at least for the time being, which is what motivated me to try Artix in the first place. My production boxes boot-up, run, and shutdown flawlessly under stable, fast and minimal plain vanilla Arch, so I'll continue to be standarized with it as my daily driver.
JMHO
66 • Haiku (by GreginNC on 2020-08-01 23:30:33 GMT from United States)
I ran Haiku as my main OS on a HP laptop back around 2015 or 2016. Wireless worked perfectly with no issues using or setting up. The only issue I had was when running BeOS software which was supposedly still compatible at that time I would sometimes get an error message that the application had crashed but if I simply moved the error box and continued to use the application it worked perfectly and I would simply close it when done by clicking "OK" in the warning box. Unfortunately everytime I've tried to run it since on the same laptop I've run into several issues and even when it ran refused to connect through wireless. They may have improved and modernized the system in many ways since I used it but from a daily usage standpoint they're moving backwards in my experience.
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