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1 • Favorit shell short-cut (by Will on 2019-12-02 01:00:02 GMT from United States)
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Recalls the last argument to the previous command.
2 • Favourite shell short-cut Opinion Poll (by R. Cain on 2019-12-02 01:50:08 GMT from United States)
Typical opinion poll.
Stick this in your list--where it rightly belongs--immediately after "All of the above", and "Some of the above", along with its included 'check mark':
"⊗ None of the above".
Since this, including expository comment, was not deemed a worthy option, I'll leave it to your imagination and shell expertise to determine what could even *remotely* be considered a very powerful shell shortcut.
TTFN.
3 • Obarun review (by jonathon on 2019-12-02 02:17:02 GMT from Australia)
I've installed Obarun JWM a few times, and found it quite reliable. this review surprised me. I always install on hardware, mounting the target partition on /mnt, connecting with connman, using sudo to start the obarun-installer, answering yes to updating both parts of the installer and repeating the install command to begin. zsh is the default shell and spacefm the default file manager for both JWM and Openbox installs. Thank you
4 • Favourite shell short-cut (by Ron on 2019-12-02 02:52:47 GMT from United States)
I use "history" command and "the tab key" two of my favorites, who can remember all of them, huh?
Love Linux
5 • Kali Linux Undercover mode (by Distrohopper on 2019-12-02 04:10:44 GMT from Singapore)
Kali Linux Undercover mode is simply amazing. It is a near to perfect windows clone which mimics the taskbar, application menu and icons in a very good way.
Also, Kali provides a smoother user experience. It can be used as a general purpose distribution as well.
6 • Favorite shell short-cut (by Sondar on 2019-12-02 07:53:47 GMT from United Kingdom)
My favourite is the 'up' arrow at anytime, even after leaving the CLI. It displays the last used command ready to re-use. Processes at the command line tend to be repetitive!
7 • Favourite Shell Shortcut (by Simon Plaistowe on 2019-12-02 09:51:16 GMT from New Zealand)
When I stop to think about it, probably the one thing I use most in the shell isn't what I consider a shortcut as such, it's simply the ability to use the UP/DOWN arrows to scroll through the past few recently-entered commands. I do it all the time, while barely thinking about it. And the fact that the list persists between sessions is often invaluable.
8 • Shell shortcuts; Alias, pushd family (by Adam.b on 2019-12-02 10:51:23 GMT from Australia)
Over the years I have developed an ever-growing set of aliases which make my life much easier. Defining aliases for the variations of the 'ls' command is of key importance.
I am a heavy terminal / virtual terminal user. I always set up my data files in the same way on all computers, on a separate partition, so navigating through (often lengthy) directory paths is an issue.
The 'pushd/popd/dirs' family of commands is a great help in quickly and repeatedly accessing lengthy directory paths. From memory, I started using these commands seriously as a result of one of Distrowatch's Hints & Tips, which made me more aware of the full capabilities of these commands.
On a different subject, I am interested in Arch-based distributions, so thank you for this week's reviews.
9 • Some of the above (by Roger on 2019-12-02 15:25:27 GMT from Belgium)
Some of the above was my answer, don't seem to need all of them.
10 • Obarun JWM (by Jeff on 2019-12-02 15:56:00 GMT from United States)
Isn't there a rule that JWM must be hideously ugly?
Most JWM configs I have seen look like a bad joke is being played on a color-blind person.
11 • @5 & @10 (by whoKnows on 2019-12-02 16:25:40 GMT from United Kingdom)
@5:
"Kali Linux Undercover mode is simply amazing. It is a near to perfect windows clone which mimics the taskbar, application menu and icons in a very good way."
Who wants Win-Look, can easily get it for almost any other Linux distribution too. Only in KDE, it doesn't work.
https://github.com/B00merang-Project/Windows-10
@10:
"Isn't there a rule that JWM must be hideously ugly?
Most JWM configs I have seen look like a bad joke is being played on a color-blind person."
Did you check on antiX 19 JWM?
12 • Shell tips (by CS on 2019-12-02 17:32:08 GMT from United States)
Shell tip that has saved me quite a bit of time over the years is parameter expansion.
I use it frequently converting files from one format to another, for example % lets you remove a substring from the end of a string so you can convert all png files to jpg as in:
for f in *.png; do
convert "$f" "${f%.png}.jpg"
done
Nice writeup here http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/073
13 • Shell usage (by Trihexagonal on 2019-12-02 19:30:24 GMT from United States)
I have a terminal open with the desktop, use the same basic commands on a daily basis and find it quicker to scroll up to the one I need than type it.
14 • obarun custom installer (by ovidiu on 2019-12-02 21:40:22 GMT from Moldova, Republic of)
wouldn't it be easier for all arch comunity to adopt calamares, cause obarun installer was reliable in past, but it is a small distro, which means less testing than for established installer frameworks.
15 • @14: (by dragonmouth on 2019-12-02 22:12:39 GMT from United States)
"wouldn't it be easier for all arch comunity to adopt calamares"
Of course it would be. As would be standardizing on a single Universal Package Manager. It would also be logical. However, in Linux, everybody has to do things their own way; keep re-inventing the wheel. That is called "freedom of choice".
16 • @14/15 calamares installer (by anticapitalista on 2019-12-02 22:27:42 GMT from Greece)
Not just 'freedom of choice', but keeping the size of the iso down.
antiX uses our gazelle-installer (same as MX) Size is about 2MB (max). This is what calamares brings in:
[code]
apt-get install calamares
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
kio kpackagetool5 liba52-0.7.4 libaribb24-0 libbasicusageenvironment1 libcrack2 libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libdca0 libdvbpsi10 libebml4v5 libfam0 libgroupsock8 libixml10
libkate1 libkf5archive5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5 libkf5config-data
libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-data
libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5doctools5 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5i18n-data
libkf5i18n5 libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiontlm5
libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5 libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5service-bin
libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5
libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5xmlgui-data
libkf5xmlgui5 libkpmcore7 libkwalletbackend5-5 liblirc-client0 liblivemedia64 libmatroska6v5 libmicrodns0 libmpeg2-4 libnfs12 libopenmpt-modplug1 libphonon4qt5-4
libplacebo7 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libprotobuf-lite17 libpwquality-common libpwquality1 libqt5texttospeech5 libsdl-image1.2 libspatialaudio0 libspeexdsp1 libupnp13
libusageenvironment3 libvlc5 libvlccore9 libxcb-xv0 libyaml-cpp0.6 phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
Suggested packages:
fam lirc phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer libdvdcss2
Recommended packages:
cracklib-runtime libkf5config-bin libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5parts-plugins media-player-info sonnet-plugins kwayland-integration qtwayland5
libkf5xmlgui-bin libvlc-bin libproxy-tools
The following NEW packages will be installed:
calamares kio kpackagetool5 liba52-0.7.4 libaribb24-0 libbasicusageenvironment1 libcrack2 libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libdca0 libdvbpsi10 libebml4v5 libfam0 libgroupsock8
libixml10 libkate1 libkf5archive5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5 libkf5config-data
libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-data
libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5doctools5 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5i18n-data
libkf5i18n5 libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiontlm5
libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5 libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5service-bin
libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5
libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5xmlgui-data
libkf5xmlgui5 libkpmcore7 libkwalletbackend5-5 liblirc-client0 liblivemedia64 libmatroska6v5 libmicrodns0 libmpeg2-4 libnfs12 libopenmpt-modplug1 libphonon4qt5-4
libplacebo7 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libprotobuf-lite17 libpwquality-common libpwquality1 libqt5texttospeech5 libsdl-image1.2 libspatialaudio0 libspeexdsp1 libupnp13
libusageenvironment3 libvlc5 libvlccore9 libxcb-xv0 libyaml-cpp0.6 phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
0 upgraded, 106 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 38.4 MB of archives.
After this operation, 191 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
[/code]
ie: 191 MB of additional disk space will be used (and that is with no recommends set).
17 • @11, @5 Kali Linux (by Angel on 2019-12-03 00:55:31 GMT from Philippines)
@11, The Windows 10 look on Kali has a purpose other than looks. Kali is a distro for pen testers, aka hackers. The idea, done somewhat lightheartedly, is to appear to be using Windows when out in public, to deceive onlookers. The DE is not KDE. It's XFCE.
@5, Kali is easy to install and has good looking desktop, however, it is not meant for newbies. Default is to run as root after install, although leaving the root password blank will add a user with sudo privileges. There is also a light version, where the special tools can be added post-install as you need. Still, there are quirks, and if an inexperienced user runs into problems, likely there is no help at forums, since that is not their purpose.
18 • @11 re: JWM and Kali Windows look (by Jeff on 2019-12-03 02:27:47 GMT from United States)
re: JWM, yes, I have seen it.
That is why I said most rather than all.
re: Kali Windows look
Have you ever heard of camouflage?
19 • My favorite command line shortcut (by K.U. on 2019-12-03 17:03:30 GMT from Finland)
My favorite shortcut in bash command line is the backward history search (ctrl r). It allows me to find even long and complicated commands easily again. Actually it even encourages me to develop long and complicated commands for future use and thereby improve my command line skills.
20 • Shell shortcut (by Cheker on 2019-12-03 18:30:27 GMT from Portugal)
I voted for the tab completion but then I've come to realize what I actually use above all else is the shell history by pressing up. I'm so used to it it didn't even occur to me.
21 • Shell history (by Johannes on 2019-12-04 10:01:51 GMT from Germany)
I have been a Linux user for more than 20 years (starting with Red Hat 5.1 Manhattan with Netscape 4 in 1998)... but somehow I never really used the bash history with Ctrl + R.
Never stop learning, thank you DW :-)
22 • @16: (by dragonmouth on 2019-12-04 15:57:45 GMT from United States)
You have just proven my point. Instead of using an already existing installer, for WHATEVER the reason may be, you decided to develop and use your own for antiX and MX. Every developer thinks that HIS application is God's gift to the world. I am all for diversity in apps but what is going on with Linux is balkanization. It's like having each reindeer pulling Santa's sled in a different direction. Santa would never get get anywhere.
23 • @22 (by Cynic on 2019-12-04 17:54:46 GMT from United States)
No.. what he proved is that not everyone seems it necessary to use a massive installer which may depend on libraries your main OS doesn't use.
What he proved was that Linux offers many options and that is a strength not a weakness.
No one can define a standard in Linux/GNU because the beauty of it is that anyone can modify things for the use case that fits.
I know many parts of the world still have such high data costs that the installer itself can be the equivalent of a meal's cost to download.. but of course in your perfect idea of the world you imagine everyone to have the same use case as you do..
Sorry to burst your bubble but people don't all live according to your definition of what is standard, required, or redundant.
24 • @22 (by anticapitalista on 2019-12-04 19:58:50 GMT from Greece)
see @23 for an excellent answer to your post.
Plus: FYI
Our installer is based on (and has improved) the MEPIS installer which first appeared in 2003! Calamares first appeared in development stage in 2014 (over 10 years later).
25 • Installers (by Cynic on 2019-12-05 01:11:59 GMT from Ghana)
I should note before it's assumed:
I have never used MX or Mepis. I'm not sure I've ever used a distribution that employs a calamares installer..
For those of us who remember the first GUI installers used by Ubuntu and others.. I think it's quite clear why alternatives are needed.
Quite frankly I see little point in using an installer with a codebase 4x larger than the average browser to do less than 30 minutes of work. On the other hand, not everyone is comfortable with cfdisk/fdisk partitioning or ncurses/text based installers; and thus need something more "user friendly" to perform the installation.
That does not make one better or worse, relevant or irrelevant, unique or redundant. It does make the distribution tailor to it's intended audience... which is generally the point of any "product".
And the fact I don't use GUI installers neither reduces their usefulness nor affects my use case at all.
I will however, defend their rights to make whatever the hell they want.. and would expect they do the same for me.
26 • @22 and 24 - MX/antiX installer (by Hoos on 2019-12-05 07:34:35 GMT from Singapore)
@22 - that was a bit of an oopsie.
To add to @24, the installer (with its improvements) has been in use continuously since 2003, first in Mepis, then antiX came into the picture in 2007, and then when Mepis development stopped around 2012/2013, the Mepis community built on that Mepis/antiX heritage and continued on with MX Linux.
I seem to remember the precursor of Calamares was developed as part of early Manjaro of around 2013/2014 vintage. Prior to that, Manjaro was using an ncurses installer. I suppose that to avoid fragmentation, it should have been looking to an existing graphical installer that was available at that time?
27 • Installing Linux... (by OstroL on 2019-12-05 09:11:38 GMT from Poland)
What an installer has to do?
Unsquash the squashed file, copy the contents to the given partition, add a user, password, hostname, configure the network manager, make a fstab entry, add grub to /boot. Maybe, download some additional packages and upgrade any needed packages. (Have I forgotten anything else?) Sometimes wonder, why it takes so long.
It takes a minute or so to unsquash the squashed file (in chroot). Chainging/adding few files takes few minutes. And you know really what you install. All those unneeded packages can be uninstalled after you boot.
28 • Linux Installers (by anon on 2019-12-06 01:17:10 GMT from United States)
I definitely prefer cfdisk + text-based installer. It's smaller, faster, and does exactly what it is supposed to do with no frills. I am also glad that the more gui-centric users have graphical installer options. I'm happy that Linux finds a way to satisfy everybody, even if things get a little chaotic and divisive at times.
29 • @27 (by Cynic on 2019-12-06 04:15:37 GMT from United States)
Actually that's a lot more than some..
Squashfs is normally used by live discs rather than simple installers.
As an example, Slackware does not use it, and the install process is essentially a format, mount, chroot, install packages, setup boot loader, network, time zone, root password-all without a "GUI" or squashfs.
And you'll be hard pressed to find examples online of the installer breaking, refusing to start, etc.. it just works.
30 • @ 29 (by Lin on 2019-12-06 07:40:54 GMT from United States)
You are saying the same thing as @27. He didn't say the installer has to be GUI. You don't even need an installer as available in Slackware to install a distro. Arch, Gentoo etc have a minimum set up to bootstrapped. You can use the same idea to install any Linux distro. Even though, this is nearly 2020, it would be better, if people learn how to install any distro the old-fashioned way. Installers are scripts with a GUI or not, making it easier for users. Most "users" have forgotten what Linux is.
31 • Installers (by Friar Tux on 2019-12-06 13:37:51 GMT from Canada)
@30 (Lin) I disagree with anyone needing to know "how to install Linux the old fashion way". I want an installer with a decent GUI so I can install the OS and get on with my work. The install method for Arch (for example) is a nightmare. I really appreciate the one Mint uses. It lets you install the OS with very little messing around. I have been fortunate to have, a couple of times in the middle of a project, to have installed Mint over the Windows 10 OS and gone right back to work without any pre-install or post-install messing about. That's also why I appreciate a software installer over the terminal.
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| • Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
| • Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
| • Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
| • Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
| • Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
| • Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
| • Issue 1069 (2024-05-06): Ubuntu 24.04, installing packages in alternative locations, systemd creates sudo alternative, Mint encourages XApps collaboration, FreeBSD publishes quarterly update |
| • Issue 1068 (2024-04-29): Fedora 40, transforming one distro into another, Debian elects new Project Leader, Red Hat extends support cycle, Emmabuntus adds accessibility features, Canonical's new security features |
| • Issue 1067 (2024-04-22): LocalSend for transferring files, detecting supported CPU architecure levels, new visual design for APT, Fedora and openSUSE working on reproducible builds, LXQt released, AlmaLinux re-adds hardware support |
| • Issue 1066 (2024-04-15): Fun projects to do with the Raspberry Pi and PinePhone, installing new software on fixed-release distributions, improving GNOME Terminal performance, Mint testing new repository mirrors, Gentoo becomes a Software In the Public Interest project |
| • Issue 1065 (2024-04-08): Dr.Parted Live 24.03, answering questions about the xz exploit, Linux Mint to ship HWE kernel, AlmaLinux patches flaw ahead of upstream Red Hat, Calculate changes release model |
| • Issue 1064 (2024-04-01): NixOS 23.11, the status of Hurd, liblzma compromised upstream, FreeBSD Foundation focuses on improving wireless networking, Ubuntu Pro offers 12 years of support |
| • Issue 1063 (2024-03-25): Redcore Linux 2401, how slowly can a rolling release update, Debian starts new Project Leader election, Red Hat creating new NVIDIA driver, Snap store hit with more malware |
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