| DistroWatch Weekly
|Linux Foundation Training
|Reader Comments • Jump to last comment
1 • Isotop (by YumaJoe on 2019-10-07 00:47:24 GMT from United States) |
"The project's developer e-mailed me to say Isotop no longer spins its own media." I hope they reconsider. Will the old ISO still work if I can find it?
2 • Ubuntu flavor for review (by albinard on 2019-10-07 02:22:04 GMT from United States)
I voted for a review of Lubuntu, because that has recently abandoned GTK in favor of Qt and the result is rather interesting. Lubuntu is still fairly sparse in the way of configuration opportunities, but it is incredibly fast at bringing up LibreOffice pages ready for use, compared to lots of other *buntus.
3 • Have you's considered using preferential voting for polls? (by fusion809 on 2019-10-07 02:59:04 GMT from Australia)
I personally feel about as much in favour of Ubuntu Budgie as Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE, and would like to assign them preferences in this poll, but can't. Have you considered possibly using preferential voting (or ranked-choice voting/instant-runoff voting/alternative voting as it's called in other countries) to decide the winner in polls? It's where if no option gets over 50% of first preference votes, the least popular option is eliminated and votes cast for it are re-allocated based on next preferences. Then, if still no option has achieved the required >50% of votes required to win, the next least popular option is eliminated and votes reallocated based on next preferences, and so forth. It might require a little clever programming to implement, but still it sounds like a more fair way of deciding the winner.
Honestly, I found this issue the most interesting in a long while. So, great work!
4 • Poll (by David on 2019-10-07 06:10:32 GMT from United States)
Need a "don't care" choice for ubuntu flavor poll.
How about a non-debian distro such as Crux?
5 • Poll (by denk_mal on 2019-10-07 06:16:50 GMT from Germany)
XUbuntu is a good choice if 19.10 uses the 4.14 version of xfce, otherwise it makes no sense to reviewing it.
my 2 ct
6 • Xubuntu (by swen on 2019-10-07 08:15:08 GMT from United States)
@5 yes it does. Xubuntu is a good choice because of XFCE 4.14
@4 you don't need to read a review of ubuntu, if you do not like.
7 • Poll (by burdi01 on 2019-10-07 08:16:20 GMT from Netherlands)
[Quote} if 19.10 uses the 4.14 version of xfce [/Quote]
8 • Ubuntu Mate (by Roger on 2019-10-07 08:49:41 GMT from Belgium)
When you can I would like to moninate Ubuntu Mate, it's my prefert desktop and my version works very well.
I use Mate on Linux Mint, Ubuntu and other distro's.
9 • Which Ubuntu flavour should Distrowatch review? (by OstroL on 2019-10-07 09:43:31 GMT from Poland)
Distrowatch should review the default Ubuntu right away, before it'd be released as the released one would come with at least 3 major bugs. You can get the latest one at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
Some major bugs that Ubuntu might not be able to correct before the release are;
1) Yaru-dark theme not working correctly with all default apps,
2) Nautilus not be able to do copy and paste to print a file’s path,
3) Snaps starting up slowly, because of longer path,
4) Snaps are about 3 times heavier than their corresponding deb packages,
and so on...
10 • Xubuntu (by Tim on 2019-10-07 10:31:56 GMT from United States)
I think no matter your favorite flavor, this one should be Xubuntu because of the new XFCE
11 • Lubuntu (by Alwan Rosyidi on 2019-10-07 11:54:56 GMT from Indonesia)
Lubuntu 19.10 is now using Lxqt. It seems to be more mature for now.
12 • Poll (by Martin on 2019-10-07 12:17:22 GMT from United Kingdom)
@4 May I also add a vote for Crux, it would be good to have an independent distro reviewed please.
The only flavour of Ubuntu that ever use occasionally is Studio.
13 • Xubuntu (by bison on 2019-10-07 13:29:26 GMT from United States)
Another vote for Xubuntu, because of Xfce 4.14.
14 • definetely xubuntu, to know whats new in xfce 4.14 (by ionel on 2019-10-07 13:34:03 GMT from Moldova, Republic of)
xfce had half of decade of changes,
which were migrated to xubuntu 1 by 1,
when they were ready.
but how xfce 4.14 behaves with all new components brough together,
now thats a good question!
15 • Good riddance to 19.04 (by Tim on 2019-10-07 13:51:56 GMT from United States)
I'm generally excited for 19.10 because 19.04 for me was the buggiest Ubuntu ever. I was really surprised because 18.10 was one of the best ever. I switched to Debian Buster to get away from 19.04 and probably will stay with it on my main computers, but I have a number that will need an upgrade and I need to do it fast. So I will give 19.10 a try.
16 • Linux Mint (by Sebastien on 2019-10-07 20:36:39 GMT from France)
"it will run in the background and let you know when issues require your attention."
Hum... Not sure I feel like having this kind of Windows like process running in the background.
I would have prefered a checking action to click and run giving me a one shot report rather than bloating my system. At least I Hope you can disable this and enable it once a while when you need it.
17 • poll (by Ed Ktorp on 2019-10-08 01:51:54 GMT from United States)
Lubuntu because of Lxqt
Xubuntu because of a new Xfce
or completely ignore Ubuntu because it's blasé
18 • 'buntus (by Jordan on 2019-10-08 13:53:55 GMT from United States)
Never loaded any of them except kubuntu once and just lost interest in favor of other projects. Harder to really consider the 'buntus as projects now. Something else, perhaps offshoots re-painted. I don't like what Canonical has been doing over time. Personal preference abounds. :)
19 • the GPL is not a EULA (by Benno on 2019-10-08 15:15:15 GMT from Netherlands)
The Kdux installer asks the user to _accept_ the GPL? But the GPL is not an End-User License Agreement (EULA). You can use GPL'ed software without having to agree to anything. The makers of Kdux seem to be seriously misguided here. Anyhow, whenever a distro asks me to agree to some license (like openSuse when I last tried), I click Cancel and wipe the thing from the disk. Maybe this could be an extra selection criterium for the Search page: distros without any license clickery.
20 • Ubuntu Studio (by Bob on 2019-10-09 01:38:44 GMT from United States)
The last time Distrowatch reviewed Ubuntu Studio was 5 November 2007. (Ubuntu Studio 7.10)
C'mon, give the studio a chance.
21 • KDE or MATE, but, different from previous review. (by Matt on 2019-10-09 08:15:42 GMT from Canada)
With an exception of Ubuntu server, Ubuntu serves KDE, GNOME, MATE, BUDGIE, LXQT, AND XFCE.
I would rather say KDE or MATE (MATE and BUDGIE, both are having GNOME as a backbone). KDE an MATE are highly popular in corporate world.
KDE offers matured applications, and,
MATE offers feature-rich DE.
By the way, I already voted for MATE.
22 • Ubuntu flavours (by silent on 2019-10-09 10:55:37 GMT from Hungary)
This is a nice poll about the popularity of desktop environments. Although I think that the plain Ubuntu flavour is benefiting from the shortest name. It is not a surprise that XFCE and Mate are the most popular desktop environments, closely followed by KDE Plasma 5. Based on the results, Xubuntu should be the new Ubuntu, and Ubuntu Gnome could be the new name for the Gnome Shell version. On the other hand Mate is still the closest to the good old Ubuntu feeling, so I prefer that one. But it is just nostalgia.
23 • which *buntu? (by fonz on 2019-10-09 16:11:10 GMT from Indonesia)
another vote for xubuntu for xfce 4.14,
would be awesome if *buntu went with the same naming convention as the older gen. imagine mubuntu, bubuntu, subuntu, kyubuntu...
24 • Oh, what version to review.... (by tom joad on 2019-10-09 16:23:51 GMT from Netherlands)
I have been following the poll changes over the last few days. Today it looks as if they results have settled down to some favorites.
But I took a look at the poll results. Then I looked at the 'hits per day' list. And I looked at the reviews of each version. Then I compared what I had found.
After all that I found that folks like Xubuntu a lot followed pretty close by the Mate version. The rest lag, some pretty badly. I reflected on what I had learned.
I came to the conclusion that do we want Jesse to review what is hot and good or another version that could use some improvement, some shine?
I voted for the Studio version for that reason. I would like to see Cinelerra added to that version too.
25 • Ben & Jerry's (by Tech in San Diego on 2019-10-09 17:20:44 GMT from United States)
Too many buntu's in my opinion. Canonical could reduce the number of versions to 3. For me it's Arch or BSD.
26 • "Too many *buntu versions..." (by Friar Tux on 2019-10-09 21:51:29 GMT from Canada)
#25 (Tech) I disagree. Actually, the very fact that Debian has tons of derivatives, of which, the *buntu family is one. The *buntu family also has tons of derivatives, of which the one I favour (Mint) is a part. That, to me, says a lot. I see it as a good thing (Mint), of a good thing (Ubuntu), of a good thing (Debian). So far, I have not be proven wrong. I would encourage all teams involved to keep up the great work.
27 • Too many... (by Marcos Pereira de Sousa on 2019-10-10 03:57:46 GMT from Brazil)
I agree, it's more choice on the scene. But I miss Mint's LMDE2 for this same reason...
28 • Review different ubuntu distro (by Jeff TIncher on 2019-10-10 11:48:56 GMT from United States)
You did UbuntuMATE the last time you had the survey. Why not do another distro?
29 • #26 by Friar Tux (by Lancre on 2019-10-10 12:53:06 GMT from United States)
SolydXK is developed by a former developer of LMDE, so you can try there.
30 • Individual Software Reviews (by fpr on 2019-10-10 16:25:31 GMT from United States)
A suggestion for the weekly articles: please do an individual review of individual software - such as VLC, GPicView, Xfce, etcetera. I would've definitely liked Distrowatch to review Xfce 4.14 since the Desktop Manager (DM) is solelyused by so many mainstream distros like Xubuntu, MX Linux, and many more.
31 • Buster (by Tim on 2019-10-10 20:30:06 GMT from United States)
I feel like it's a strange moment in the Debian family. For me at least, Buster has been rock solid and making it ready to go very straightforward. After my previous post I went and tried to upgrade my troubled 19.04 install to the 19.10 beta (Ubuntu MATE) and grub wouldn't install.
I used to recommend Ubuntu and Mint as an easy way to get a nice Debian based system up and running. But right now Debian itself seems to have fewer rough edges
32 • No Shortage of Deamons (by M.Z. on 2019-10-10 22:44:10 GMT from United States)
That seems kinda silly to me, unless you have any good reason to suspect that Mint will be making it's newest deamon any bigger or more obtrusive than the plethora of other deamons/services already running in your typical desktop distro. The top command gives me about 230 different processes running in LMDE, so why is 1 more going to be an issue? I for one could care less about an extra deamon or two luring around in the background, so long as the distro makers ask themselves about the overall picture on occasion & make sure to avoid useless bloat. I have multiple CPU cores & multiple GB of RAM, so 1 more process seems useless to worry about in the big picture & it's certainly true for Mint which seems to keep responsiveness in mind while developing their various editions.
33 • Ask Google if 1 more daemon may lure around their farms (by Marcos Pereira de Sousa on 2019-10-11 04:36:27 GMT from Brazil)
Escuse me but the multiplicity of hardware is irrelevant. If I don't have a printer or scanner why start daemons to print & scan? Augmenting the surface exposed to a possible attack, without any benefit, is a no go. Even in a typical desktop.
I completely agree whith @16 Sebastien. Extra capacity is always wellcome.
Thanks for the greater choice MX.
34 • @31 Woes of Ubuntu (by kaczor on 2019-10-11 08:43:32 GMT from Greece)
"After my previous post I went and tried to upgrade my troubled 19.04 install to the 19.10 beta (Ubuntu MATE) and grub wouldn't install."
This had become a standard woe of "new" Ubuntu - grub won't install.
There's also woes of "mock extensions" slow starting snap apps and also Gnome 3.34 getting stuck, if you try to uninstall those "mock extensions."
Maybe there should be a disclaimer about the slow starting times of default snap apps, just like the system extensions are called mock extensions -https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1300/ubuntu-dock/ - to inform the users about the availability of equivalent deb packages.
35 • Arch Base Package (by Justin on 2019-10-11 14:45:03 GMT from United States)
This is a welcome change for me! I have an automated installation script to rebuild a netbook in case of disaster or to stand up a new machine. I did the latter yesterday and was a little surprised to see several packages I normally uninstall weren't there. I read the rationale here and love it: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2019-January/029435.html. I'm glad someone decided that s-nail, ed, etc., aren't actually dependencies of an Arch system and then dealt with the other issues outlined in the post.
These are the types of improvements I like to see. I appreciate the help streamlining my system while making it useful for technologies like containers. I wish Docker were packaged for Linux by distributions and more widespread for daily use (I still use Virtualbox, which meets my needs most of the time).
36 • OpenMandriva clang kernels (by John on 2019-10-11 18:10:06 GMT from Switzerland)
Amazing how a small distro like OpenMandriva keeps innovating more than distributions with thousands of developers! Keep going!
Number of Comments: 36
Display mode: DWW Only • Comments Only • Both DWW and Comments
|• Issue 836 (2019-10-14): Archman 2019.09, Haiku improves ARM support, Project Trident shifting base OS, Unix turns 50|
|• Issue 835 (2019-10-07): Isotop, Mazon OS and, KduxOS, examples of using the find command, Mint's System Reports becomes proactive, Solus updates its desktops|
|• Issue 834 (2019-09-30): FreedomBox "Buster", CentOS gains a rolling release, Librem 5 phones shipping, Redcore updates its package manager|
|• Issue 833 (2019-09-23): Redcore Linux 1908, why Linux distros are free, Ubuntu making list of 32-bit software to keep, Richard M Stallman steps down from FSF leadership|
|• Issue 832 (2019-09-16): BlackWeb 1.2, checking for Wayland session and applications, Fedora to use nftables in firewalld, OpenBSD disables DoH in Firefox|
|• Issue 831 (2019-09-09): Adélie Linux 1.0 beta, using ffmpeg, awk and renice, Mint and elementary improvements, PureOS and Manjaro updates|
|• Issue 930 (2019-09-02): deepin 15.11, working with AppArmor profiles, elementary OS gets new greeter, exFAT support coming to Linux kernel|
|• Issue 829 (2019-08-26): EndeavourOS 2019.07.15, Drauger OS 7.4.1, finding the licenses of kernel modules, NetBSD gets Wayland application, GhostBSD changes base repo|
|• Issue 828 (2019-08-19): AcademiX 2.2, concerns with non-free firmware, UBports working on Unity8, Fedora unveils new EPEL channel, FreeBSD phasing out GCC|
|• Issue 827 (2019-08-12): Q4OS, finding files on the disk, Ubuntu works on ZFS, Haiku improves performance, OSDisc shutting down|
|• Issue 826 (2019-08-05): Quick looks at Resilient, PrimeOS, and BlueLight, flagship distros for desktops,Manjaro introduces new package manager|
|• Issue 825 (2019-07-29): Endless OS 3.6, UBports 16.04, gNewSense maintainer stepping down, Fedora developrs discuss optimizations, Project Trident launches stable branch|
|• Issue 824 (2019-07-22): Hexagon OS 1.0, Mageia publishes updated media, Fedora unveils Fedora CoreOS, managing disk usage with quotas|
|• Issue 823 (2019-07-15): Debian 10, finding 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system, Will Cooke discusses Ubuntu's desktop, IBM finalizes purchase of Red Hat|
|• Issue 822 (2019-07-08): Mageia 7, running development branches of distros, Mint team considers Snap, UBports to address Google account access|
|• Issue 821 (2019-07-01): OpenMandriva 4.0, Ubuntu's plan for 32-bit packages, Fedora Workstation improvements, DragonFly BSD's smaller kernel memory|
|• Issue 820 (2019-06-24): Clear Linux and Guix System 1.0.1, running Android applications using Anbox, Zorin partners with Star Labs, Red Hat explains networking bug, Ubuntu considers no longer updating 32-bit packages|
|• Issue 819 (2019-06-17): OS108 and Venom, renaming multiple files, checking live USB integrity, working with Fedora's Modularity, Ubuntu replacing Chromium package with snap|
|• Issue 818 (2019-06-10): openSUSE 15.1, improving boot times, FreeBSD's status report, DragonFly BSD reduces install media size|
|• Issue 817 (2019-06-03): Manjaro 18.0.4, Ubuntu Security Podcast, new Linux laptops from Dell and System76, Entroware Apollo|
|• Issue 816 (2019-05-27): Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.0, creating firewall rules, Antergos shuts down, Matthew Miller answers questions about Fedora|
|• Issue 815 (2019-05-20): Sabayon 19.03, Clear Linux's developer features, Red Hat explains MDS flaws, an overview of mobile distro options|
|• Issue 814 (2019-05-13): Fedora 30, distributions publish Firefox fixes, CentOS publishes roadmap to 8.0, Debian plans to use Wayland by default|
|• Issue 813 (2019-05-06): ROSA R11, MX seeks help with systemd-shim, FreeBSD tests unified package management, interview with Gael Duval|
|• Issue 812 (2019-04-29): Ubuntu MATE 19.04, setting up a SOCKS web proxy, Scientific Linux discontinued, Red Hat takes over Java LTS support|
|• Issue 811 (2019-04-22): Alpine 3.9.2, rsync examples, Ubuntu working on ZFS support, Debian elects new Project Leader, Obarun releases S6 tools|
|• Issue 810 (2019-04-15): SolydXK 201902, Bedrock Linux 0.7.2, Fedora phasing out Python 2, NetBSD gets virtual machine monitor|
|• Issue 809 (2019-04-08): PCLinuxOS 2019.02, installing Falkon and problems with portable packages, Mint offers daily build previews, Ubuntu speeds up Snap packages|
|• Issue 808 (2019-04-01): Solus 4.0, security benefits and drawbacks to using a live distro, Gentoo gets GNOME ports working without systemd, Redox OS update|
|• Issue 807 (2019-03-25): Pardus 17.5, finding out which user changed a file, new Budgie features, a tool for browsing FreeBSD's sysctl values|
|• Issue 806 (2019-03-18): Kubuntu vs KDE neon, Nitrux's znx, notes on Debian's election, SUSE becomes an independent entity|
|• Issue 805 (2019-03-11): EasyOS 1.0, managing background services, Devuan team debates machine ID file, Ubuntu Studio works to remain an Ubuntu Community Edition|
|• Issue 804 (2019-03-04): Condres OS 19.02, securely erasing hard drives, new UBports devices coming in 2019, Devuan to host first conference|
|• Issue 803 (2019-02-25): Septor 2019, preventing windows from stealing focus, NetBSD and Nitrux experiment with virtual machines, pfSense upgrading to FreeBSD 12 base|
|• Issue 802 (2019-02-18): Slontoo 18.07.1, NetBSD tests newer compiler, Fedora packaging Deepin desktop, changes in Ubuntu Studio|
|• Issue 801 (2019-02-11): Project Trident 18.12, the meaning of status symbols in top, FreeBSD Foundation lists ongoing projects, Plasma Mobile team answers questions|
|• Issue 800 (2019-02-04): FreeNAS 11.2, using Ubuntu Studio software as an add-on, Nitrux developing znx, matching operating systems to file systems|
|• Issue 799 (2019-01-28): KaOS 2018.12, Linux Basics For Hackers, Debian 10 enters freeze, Ubuntu publishes new version for IoT devices|
|• Issue 798 (2019-01-21): Sculpt OS 18.09, picking a location for swap space, Solus team plans ahead, Fedora trying to get a better user count|
|• Issue 797 (2019-01-14): Reborn OS 2018.11.28, TinyPaw-Linux 1.3, dealing with processes which make the desktop unresponsive, Debian testing Secure Boot support|
|• Issue 796 (2019-01-07): FreeBSD 12.0, Peppermint releases ISO update, picking the best distro of 2018, roundtable interview with Debian, Fedora and elementary developers|
|• Issue 795 (2018-12-24): Running a Pinebook, interview with Bedrock founder, Alpine being ported to RISC-V, Librem 5 dev-kits shipped|
|• Issue 794 (2018-12-17): Void 20181111, avoiding software bloat, improvements to HAMMER2, getting application overview in GNOME Shell|
|• Issue 793 (2018-12-10): openSUSE Tumbleweed, finding non-free packages, Debian migrates to usrmerge, Hyperbola gets FSF approval|
|• Issue 792 (2018-1203): GhostBSD 18.10, when to use swap space, DragonFly BSD's wireless support, Fedora planning to pause development schedule|
|• Issue 791 (2018-11-26): Haiku R1 Beta1, default passwords on live media, Slax and Kodachi update their media, dual booting DragonFly BSD on EFI|
|• Issue 790 (2018-11-19): NetBSD 8.0, Bash tips and short-cuts, Fedora's networking benchmarked with FreeBSD, Ubuntu 18.04 to get ten years of support|
|• Issue 789 (2018-11-12): Fedora 29 Workstation and Silverblue, Haiku recovering from server outage, Fedora turns 15, Debian publishes updated media|
|• Issue 788 (2018-11-05): Clu Linux Live 6.0, examining RAM consumpion, finding support for older CPUs, more Steam support for running Windows games on Linux, update from Solus team|
|• Issue 787 (2018-10-29): Lubuntu 18.10, limiting application access to specific users, Haiku hardware compatibility list, IBM purchasing Red Hat|
|• Issue 786 (2018-10-22): elementary OS 5.0, why init keeps running, DragonFly BSD enables virtual machine memory resizing, KDE neon plans to drop older base|
|• Issue 785 (2018-10-15): Reborn OS 2018.09, Nitrux 1.0.15, swapping hard drives between computers, feren OS tries KDE spin, power savings coming to Linux|
|• Issue 784 (2018-10-08): Hamara 2.1, improving manual pages, UBports gets VoIP app, Fedora testing power saving feature|
|• Full list of all issues|
Star Labs - Laptops built for Linux.
View our range including the Star Lite, Star LabTop and more. Available with a choice of Ubuntu, Linux Mint or Zorin OS pre-installed with many more distributions supported. Visit Star Labs for information, to buy and get support.
|Random Distribution |
Matriux was a Debian-based security distribution designed for penetration testing and forensic investigations. Although it was primarily designed for security enthusiasts and professionals, it can also be used by any Linux user as a desktop system for day-to-day computing. Besides standard Debian software, Matriux also ships with an optimised GNOME desktop interface, over 300 open-source tools for penetration testing, and a custom-built Linux kernel.