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1 • System monitor (by Vern on 2019-02-11 00:25:47 GMT from United States) |
I mostly use HTOP, and system monitor among others. When in doubt I use the all!
2 • System Monitor (by DaveW on 2019-02-11 00:49:53 GMT from United States)
Most of the time I use the Mate system monitor, but occasionally top.
3 • KSysGuard for System Monitor (by Elcaset on 2019-02-11 01:05:50 GMT from United States)
Mostly I use KSysGuard. And I also like Conky, but I don't use it that often.
4 • System monitor (by Friar Tux on 2019-02-11 01:35:46 GMT from Canada)
I haven't run a monitor in a long long time. Don't see any need for it if things are running smoothly. To me, it's like constantly taking your temperature just to make sure you're not sick.
5 • Top, htop, etc. Trident review. (by Gregory Zeng on 2019-02-11 02:01:42 GMT from Australia)
Reading this week on Linux Mint. "Top" is inbuilt. "htop" gave the installation CLI. Both are CLI; user hostile and hard to read quickly. GKRELM is my preferred system monitor, even though it needed user configuration, just as top & htop required configuration.
The Trident download is 4 GB, twice then size of the Linux Mint download. Using Distrowatch to compare the file contents of each download, I find it amazing that the BSD-type program is so lacking in the numbers of files.
Trident looks like a server-based operating system, from the multi-user tests in the review. This might explain the fewer files, but bulkier files. It was not obvious then that this operating system was just for server systems. Is this true?
Thank you for the warning about its badly configure dark theme. Old people like myself need black fonts of a light background. Darkroom-0nly screen displays used in the Trident Project are hard for poor eyes to handle. As you mentioned, whitish fonts on a whitish background are hard to handle.
6 • Trident Project hardware support (by Tran Older on 2019-02-11 02:19:00 GMT from Vietnam)
There's no support for trackpads on Acer/Asus/Lenovo laptops. That happens with both Trident Project and GhostBSD. Have it solved, please.
7 • Trident (by Linuxista on 2019-02-11 02:26:23 GMT from United States)
I don't get how the install image is 4.3GB and there are hardly any default apps installed.
8 • System monitors (by Pikolo on 2019-02-11 02:42:41 GMT from United Kingdom)
I usually use what comes with the system, but I have a soft spot for KSysGuard due to how easily configurable it is. Creating a new statistics page for CPU and GPU temperature monitoring & disk transfers took me 5 minutes and all happened within a GUI. I'm not aware of any other system monitor with that much exposed user configurability. That said, it is part of KDE Plasma, and that's where polished Linux desktop is nowadays
9 • Mate system monitor (by Andy Prough on 2019-02-11 03:04:00 GMT from United States)
I find the Mate system monitor is as complete a package as you could ask for. One of the many reasons that Mate has become my favorite desktop.
10 • XFCE System Monitor (by Lupus on 2019-02-11 05:33:31 GMT from Germany)
Years ago when struggeling with lua I ran into a Memory leaking or Memory grabbing Problem with conky which I quite liked at the time but I couldn´t solve it.... rather it solved itself with a later update but now I go with whatever my DE provides so XFCE it is... or sometimes top or htop
11 • BSD (by salparadise on 2019-02-11 06:14:31 GMT from United Kingdom)
I've used Linux for 15+ years but had often been curious over BSD, especially after 3 years of Mac use. So over the last couple of months I tried GhostBSD, FreeBSD, TrueOS/Trident and netBSD. The hardware I'm using is a Dell Precision T5500 with a SoundBlaster 5.1 and NVIDIA9500GT. All versions were installable, some easily (Ghost and Trident) and some not so. Ghost crashed repeatedly within a few minutes of booting. TrueOS worked beautifully but "is dead as a Desktop project". Trident crashed repeatedly. Neither could cope with multiple tabs open in Firefox. netBSD installed but presented me with a frozen Desktop. The bog standard USB mouse I have did not work at all. FreeBSD was easy to install but leaves you with a Slackware-like command prompt and the need to build or download everything required for a Desktop. I did keep at it and built a file manager and fluxbox and Xorg, but, once the Desktop was available, could not work out how to install the NVIDIA drivers, which were essential to avoid the worst screen tearing I have ever seen. There are no error logs in BSD. I asked on various forums. The phrase quoted most often was "BSD has a driver problem". For anyone coming from Linux, especially lush Desktop junkies, you will find BSD hard work and distinctly lacking in polish. It's a bit like Linux was 18-20 years ago. As yet there are no equivalents to Mandrake/Ubuntu, etc, to get the leg work done so a version more suited to Desktop use is available. GhostBSD is the closest, but last time I looked there are only 97 members on the forum.
12 • System monitor (by Sanjay India on 2019-02-11 06:23:37 GMT from India)
For Reliability I use HTOP, 2nd KSysGuard and third Gnome system monitor
13 • System monitors (by Trihexagonal on 2019-02-11 06:57:54 GMT from United States)
I like Gkrellm2 and usually keep it and a terminal open running top on all my FreeBSD and OpenBSD desktops.
14 • RE:11 BSD (by denPes on 2019-02-11 07:06:10 GMT from Belgium)
There will always be driver problems on alternative platforms if one uses hardware that requires closed source drivers. With blob free hardware, you will have no problems at all.
I have a toshiba tecra laptop running openBSD, and, except for the fingerprint scanner, it all works. If you buy an intel board, or lenovo thinkpad, or something similar, you will experience no problems at all, and then it is not hard work to get it running properly.
With hardware that requires closed source drivers it's better to keep using windows, or linux.
15 • BSD ISO sizes (by Jeff on 2019-02-11 08:00:49 GMT from United States)
Years ago BSD ISO sizes were huge because they had all of GNOME and KDE and Xfce and LXDE and...........
Now they don't have all those and they are still huge?
16 • System monitors (by Alessandro di Roma on 2019-02-11 08:52:54 GMT from Italy)
For a fast graphic look at cpu/mem/net/precesses I use gnome-system-monitor. But for better insight and use thru ssh the best for me is nmon. Try it!
17 • System monitors: Conky! (by kernelpanic! on 2019-02-11 09:25:46 GMT from Germany)
The FIRST thing I install after a fresh install of a distro (if not there oob already) is conky, running it with highly personalized settings, sitting permanently on the desktop. call it "control obsession", but if I`m not informed about my PC`s activities/processes (CPU, GPU, RAM, network ...) I feel blindfolded, handcuffed, naked and helpless ;-)
18 • mate (by Tim on 2019-02-11 10:28:17 GMT from United States)
Like many here, I use MATE system monitor. I chose top in the poll because of all listed choices it’s the one I use the most. Generally I know what process is bogging down the system, and I just need a PID to run cpulimit. Top is perfect for that. I haven’t had to do that for a process in a few years though. I used to encode video on very obsolete hardware and it was a godsend to stop it from overheating itself.
19 • System monitor (by lincoln on 2019-02-11 11:00:48 GMT from Brazil)
I like Mate system monitor because in a tab I can see in a time window and graphically the data of network traffic, CPU processing and memory (including swap). In another tab, the processes organized by line plus the option to sort them by field.
20 • System Monitor (by Jim on 2019-02-11 11:24:00 GMT from United States)
I use GKrellM System Monitor.
21 • Activity monitor (by aka_mgr on 2019-02-11 12:46:51 GMT from France)
I use "glances" which provides many useful informations on a single page.
I can also use "nmon" which not as complete and friendly but still useful.
22 • MATE system monitor (by Lee on 2019-02-11 13:18:14 GMT from United States)
On the taskbar w/memory & network monitors in user-selected colors.
I remember minimal system days with Conky on Puppy
23 • System monitoring: Why do so many folks just eat what is part of the dish? (by Gerhard Goetzhaber on 2019-02-11 13:30:19 GMT from Austria)
@13 knows: Gkrellm is the very best solution - at valuable distance from whatever competitors! It's the first piece of software I'll be going to add to every newly installed distro on one of my workstations, to get held open on all workspaces as well as all the time. Excellent configuration options, too!
24 • MazonOS wiki (by Ostro on 2019-02-11 14:47:15 GMT from Poland)
The MazonOS Wiki (http://mazonos.com) tells you how to install any Linux distro without worrying about, whether the installer would install the given distro. Something most of us had forgotten.
25 • MX Linux (by Alburgheiro on 2019-02-11 04:39:17 GMT from Russian Federation)
I personally believe that MX Linux is the most sensible Linux distro out there right now. I'd only wish that, like AntiX, they would support upgrading to testing.
26 • System Monitoring (by DaveT on 2019-02-11 16:23:12 GMT from United Kingdom)
htop on the company servers, htop and conky at home
27 • @23: (by dragonmouth on 2019-02-11 16:47:54 GMT from United States)
"Why do so many folks just eat what is part of the dish?"
Because that is what's on the table?
28 • @23: Re System Monitoring (by Rev_Don on 2019-02-11 18:05:56 GMT from United States)
"Why do so many folks just eat what is part of the dish?"
It's convenient. It works, It does what they need. There are probably a hundred other reasons. Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean that it is wrong.
29 • Process monitor (by Roger on 2019-02-11 19:37:15 GMT from Belgium)
I only use System Info and Psensor to keep track of my systems, just to see how much resources one of my PC is using and how warm it gets.
That's it, I have no need to see which app is taking to much, when I have to I use " systemd-analyze blame " to see startup.
30 • Trident Review (by RoboNuggie on 2019-02-11 23:17:07 GMT from United Kingdom)
I did a review of this on Jan 17..... to see it in action :
31 • System Monitor thoughts... (by claudecat on 2019-02-11 23:31:43 GMT from United States)
I voted for ksysguard, as that's what I use most frequently. One thing it doesn't have that I like about gnome-system-monitor is the total bandwidth/download tally - it shows what's currently happening but not a total. Otherwise, ksysguard is nearly perfect for my needs, and, like everything in the land of K, configurable as all get-out. For example, it's easy to add a tab that gives various temperature information.
32 • System monitor - Glances (by James on 2019-02-12 08:10:58 GMT from New Zealand)
I use Glances too - its great for running headless and carries its own web server. Glances -w &
33 • System Monitoring (by Jordan on 2019-02-12 17:58:50 GMT from United States)
I don't bother with that. I think I've done it twice in my 23 years of linux experience. One time for sure was with Suse (before OpenSuse) and had a slow machine.
The other time might have been with PCLinuxOS. Maybe Yoper.
I don't get it with that, the system monitoring thing. What are you going to do? Is it about deciding whether to keep your distro? Or is it to decide whether this or that app is not right for that distro? Both of those things seem too easy to figure out to even bother with special monitoring of the cpu and all that.
And yes, there is room in the linux world for that kind of thinking among happy linux users. :o)
34 • @33 • System Monitoring (by Titus_Groan on 2019-02-12 19:06:47 GMT from New Zealand)
I hear you.
once, years ago I had a laptop crawl to a stop.
100% cpu use, ksysgard would only occasionally refresh.
only time I ever considered "using" something for monitoring.
occasionally, I will click up ksysguard to see how " busy" the system is, but unless I am doing some cpu intensive work, cpu use is mostly in the sub 5% range, and memory usage is less than 15%.
35 • Process Monitor (by Ronald Buckman on 2019-02-12 21:50:52 GMT from United States)
I use TDE System Guard which is a KSysGuard variant for the Trinity Desktop Environment. It has plenty of useful features.
36 • htop & KSysGuard (by Dxvid on 2019-02-12 23:03:34 GMT from Sweden)
If a system has a graphical environment I tend to prefer KSysGuard as it can show nice graphs so you can see statistics over time for RAM, CPU, temperatures, disks, network and other, and also optionally do some logging from various sources. On a machine without graphical environment I always install htop. If I just want to see a momentary state I can use htop even on machines with a desktop installed as I like the info on the main page in htop.
37 • System monitors (by Ricardo on 2019-02-13 03:48:58 GMT from Argentina)
I'm a sysadmin, I'm used to top so I use that, and most of the time don't need the fancy features of htop and similar.
But there's another useful tool I haven't seen mentioned yet, which is iotop, to see which process is using your disk more heavily, usually hinted by a large I/O wait percentage by top/htop.
38 • Another KSysguard Guy (by BeGo on 2019-02-13 07:59:30 GMT from Indonesia)
I mostly use KSysguard, but,
For OS that zonder Qt, I use anything available. :)
39 • @33 • System Monitoring (by Johannes on 2019-02-13 13:40:12 GMT from Germany)
After some says without rebooting, my Firefox starts taking so much RAM that I usually check Gnome System Monitor to see how many Gigabytes Firefox takes and if it's now time to reboot. I use 9 virtual desktops, on each one 1 to 6 Firefox Windows with a few tabs each.
On my Servers (hosting websites), using "top" is vital to see if the servers are well scaled - if I should add or remove RAM or CPU cores.
So some people like me DO need monitors ;-)
40 • Trident other desktops? (by Ankleface Wroughtlandmire on 2019-02-13 15:13:39 GMT from Ecuador)
Does Trident offer any other desktop environments in its repositories (apart from the recently announced LXQt)? I like the concept of Trident, but I would never use Lumina. Back in the PC-BSD days, they used to offer directly from their installer a choice of big name desktops like Cinnamon, Gnome, Plasma, Mate, and XFCE, all of which I use on different systems.
41 • Desktops (by Jesse on 2019-02-13 19:36:45 GMT from Canada)
@40: Yes, Trident can run a variety of desktop environments. Pretty much all of the ones that run on Linux at this point should also work on Linux. One of the few exceptions is, I believe, Deepin. But if you're looking for Plasma, Xfce, MATE, or GNOME those should all run on Trident.
42 • Trident is BSD made easy? Who would want that? (by Niac R on 2019-02-14 18:38:25 GMT from United States)
You should go for the real text-mode or miss 99% of the fun
43 • The Truth About Project Priorities Vs Your Own Priorities (by M.Z. on 2019-02-15 23:21:46 GMT from United States)
"Trident is BSD made easy? Who would want that?"
Or you could stop trying to put projects into your own preconceived boxes & let them do what they want, because that's going to happen anyway. The job of the smart Distro hopper is to find projects who's priorities interest him/her & go try it out, not to tell projects what their priorities should be.
Since you like to do things the hard way I would recommend you go try out Linux From Scratch & see if the really hard way is fun. At least it will be a learning experience & you will be following that rocky dirt path laid out by the devs instead of armchair quarterbacking about how the interstate highway is all wrong & you don't like the federal highway department or how their interstates aren't fun in your Jeep.
The world of Linux & BSD contains a vast array of options & you are far better off picking the one that aligns with what you want than complaining about your preferences vs some random distro's overarching goals. There is almost certainly something out there done very close to how you want it if you look hard enough.
44 • top & htop votes (by dave esktorp on 2019-02-17 17:03:18 GMT from United States)
For some reason, I have a really hard time believing that 25-40% of you are actually using top or htop.
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