DistroWatch Weekly |
DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 756, 26 March 2018 |
Welcome to this year's 13th issue of DistroWatch Weekly!
There is a trend in technology to add increasing complexity to our operating systems, while creating layers of abstraction to hide the messy details away from the user. However, some software projects try to keep things technologically simple and do not hide the inner workings of the distribution. This week we explore two projects which focus on the Keep It Simple philosophy. The first is the NuTyX Linux distribution which encourages users to get their hands dirty with configuring and maintaining the operating system. Robert Rijkhoff shares his experiences with this unusual distribution in our Feature Story. The other project we focus on this week is SysV init, an older init implementation which is now gearing up for a new release. Our Opinion Poll this week asks how people feel about staying on the cutting edge of software development - do you like to blaze a trail or stick with tried and true technology? In our News section we discuss VenenuX offering a special point-of-sale edition and Neptune providing updated KDE Plasma packages for Debian. Plus we discuss openSUSE's package search portal and running SolydXK on a Raspberry Pi computer. We are happy to share the new releases of the past week and provide a list of the torrents we are seeding. Finally, we updated our package database, removing dormant projects and adding ten new items. The details of this package overhaul are covered below. We wish you all a terrific week and happy reading!
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Feature Story (by Robert Rijkhoff) |
NuTyX 10.0
NuTyX is one of only two Linux distributions in the DistroWatch database based on Linux From Scratch. The distro caught my attention as I am hoping to one day find the time and courage to build a custom Linux distro from source. NuTyX seemed to be a distro that would allow me dip my toes in Linux From Scratch.
Installation
NuTyX is available for both 32- and 64-bits computers and, by default, uses SysV for system initialisation. For people who just want a working system out of the box there are ISOs for various desktop environments, while more adventurous users can try a minimal ISO. Interestingly, it is also possible to install NuTyX from within another Linux operating system. As my aim was to tinker I chose the latter option.
The installation is done via a script called install-nutyx. There are various things that need to be done before you can run the script. You need to make sure you have a spare partition and you will need to format the partition and mount it on /mnt/NuTyX. After downloading the "base collection" and running the script you also need to manually add NuTyX to GRUB. The documentation is minimal and not always correct for all distributions - it, for instance, explains that the GRUB entry should be created in /boot/grub/grub.cfg while, on my Fedora system, that path should be /boot/grub2/custom.cfg - but I got the job done in about five minutes.

NuTyX 10.0 -- Installing NuTyX from within Fedora
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After rebooting my laptop and selecting NuTyX from the GRUB menu I was presented with a basic graphical installer via which I had to select my keyboard layout and network card, confirm the current date and time and create a user account. By default NuTyX doesn't create an account for the root user but you can do this manually.
At this point we have only got the above-mentioned base collection installed. A "collection" is a group of packages that provide a certain function. The base collection provides the bare minimum (just 111 packages) so you will almost certainly want to enable other collections. For instance, there are collections for command line utilities and graphical applications as well as collections for six different desktop environments (GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE and Xfce). I couldn't find any information about how to get access to these collections but did get a fairly quick response to a question I posted on the NuTyX forums. The trick is to manually add collections to your /etc/cards.conf file. As most of the NuTyX forums can only be accessed by creating an account I will present my cards.conf file here:
# Base collection
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/base|http://downloads.nutyx.org
base /var/lib/pkg/depot/base
# CLI utilities
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/cli|http://downloads.nutyx.org
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/cli-extra|http://downloads.nutyx.org
# GUI utilities
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/gui|http://downloads.nutyx.org
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/gui-extra|http://downloads.nutyx.org
# GNOME desktop
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/gnome|http://downloads.nutyx.org
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/gnome-extra|http://downloads.nutyx.org
# MATE desktop
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/mate|http://downloads.nutyx.org
dir /var/lib/pkg/depot/mate-extra|http://downloads.nutyx.org
# Branch (see https://www.nutyx.org/en/dictionary#13)
version current
# Locale
locale en
In this cards.conf file I only enabled the GNOME and MATE desktop environments. To enable other desktops, simply replace "gnome" or "mate" with the name of your preferred desktop.
Package management
NuTyX's package management tool is called Cards, which is an acronym of Create, Add, Remove and Download System. Cards is a fork of CRUX's pkgutils utilities and can be used to manage binary packages and to compile and install packages from source. It is not recommended to mix both methods, and as a new NuTyX user I decided to stick with managing binary packages.
Cards' syntax is straight-forward. After I had updated my cards.conf file, for instance, I could refresh the repositories and check for updates with the commands "sudo cards sync" and "sudo cards diff". We can search for packages with "sudo cards search <package> and install a package with "sudo cards install <package>". To make things even easier there are six aliases for Cards commands. For instance, instead of running "sudo cards sync; sudo cards diff" we can simply run the command "check". Personally, I found the aliases counter intuitive - running the "check" command without "sudo cards" just feels wrong.

NuTyX 10.0 -- Exploring packages and aliases
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Like NuTyX itself, Cards is somewhat minimal. It covers all the basics though, and it is very fast. I also appreciate the Packages section on the NuTyX website, which can be used to search for packages and collections.
Software
NuTyX is a small project and the number of packages available is therefore limited. That said, there were only a handful of applications that I couldn't find in the repositories/collections. My favourite music players (moc and Quod Libet), password manager (pass), screenshot tool (Shutter) and RSS reader (Liferea) weren't available. There were, however, decent alternative applications. For instance, the Keepassx password manager and music players such as Rhythmbox and Clementine are in the repos.
Another thing worth mentioning is that most of the software NuTyX provides is bang up to date. In my cards.conf file I had enable the Current branch, which is roughly equivalent to Debian's Testing branch (other NuTyX branches are Stable and Development). When I installed the MATE desktop I was pleasantly surprised to find that I got MATE 1.20, which was released on February 7th. Similarly, I got VLC 3.0, which was released on the February 9th. NuTyX 10 was released on January 17th, so clearly new packages are being made available very quickly.

NuTyX 10.0 -- MATE, Firefox and LibreOffice
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Almost all the software I tried worked. The one exception was Claws Mail, which somehow wasn't able to securely connect to my mail server. I also found that launching the vi text editor would open a rather minimal editor called e3 (you can undo the damage by deleting the /bin/vi symbolic link).
Getting a working desktop environment
Installing a desktop environment in NuTyX is easy enough. To get the MATE desktop I needed to install just three packages: mate, mate-extra and lxdm (the login manager). That won't give you a fully functioning desktop environment though. Applications such as a browser, e-mail client and office suite need to be installed separately. The same goes for fonts - by default only one font family is installed ("Luxy").

NuTyX 10.0 -- Searching for fonts
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The real work starts after you have installed your favourite applications and things like fonts. One of the first issues I encountered was that MATE ignored the (UK) keyboard layout I had selected during the install. The output of the locale command and the contents of the /etc/sysconfig/console file were correct but MATE's Keyboard Preferences showed I was using the US keyboard layout. To change the layout I had to install xorg-setxkbmap and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf file.

NuTyX 10.0 -- Correcting the keyboard layout
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There are many other things that won't work out of the box. You may need to install a driver for your graphics card and a package to get your laptop's trackpad working (xorg-xf86-input-synaptics). If you want wireless Internet you will want to install network-manager-applet. If you want the usual home directories ("Documents", "Downloads" etc.) you can install xdg-user-dirs. If you find that there is no "Suspend" option in the logout menu you need to install pm-utils. The list goes on.

NuTyX 10.0 -- Configuring wireless connections
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In other words, many of the things that work out of the box in distributions such as Debian and Fedora need to be done manually in NuTyX. This is, of course, by design - NuTyX is based on Linux From Scratch and made for tinkerers. I was anticipating there would be issues to be solved and found the experience quite gratifying - it is nice to fix issues, and in the process I learned a few things about the various packages needed to get a proper desktop Linux system.
That said, there were two things I wasn't able to fix: I couldn't find a way to change my monitor's brightness level and I wasn't able to connect to a VPN. I also ran into a few small bugs. I found, for instance, that changing your user password in MATE doesn't work because the passwd utility isn't in /usr/bin/ (with NuTyX the binary is /bin/passwd).

NuTyX 10.0 -- Changing the user password
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Still, I did manage to get a usable desktop environment. And I have to say that I greatly enjoyed the MATE experience. The default configuration doesn't look great but after installing the Arc Theme (available in the repositories), replacing the traditional menus with the Brisk menu and tweaking the panels I had a fairly modern-looking desktop that was still blazingly fast.

NuTyX 10.0 -- The MATE desktop with the theme and icons
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Documentation
The main criticism I have of NuTyX is that the project's documentation is lacking. For a project that is based on Linux From Scratch I expect much more information about how the distro works. Worse, some of the documentation is incorrect and/or poorly written. I have already mentioned the information about manually adding NuTyX to GRUB, which refers to a configuration file that has different locations on different distros. The same is true for the documentation about wireless networks. The information did point me in the right direction: I needed to create a file named /etc/sysconfig/ifconfig.wlp3s0. However, what the contents of that file should be was unclear.

NuTyX 10.0 -- Exploring the NuTyX documentation
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I realise this criticism is a little unfair. As far as I can tell NuTyX is the work of a single person whose first language is French. The person has done an amazing job. Still, while trying to fix various issues I found that the NuTyX website rarely provided useful documentation. I also found it frustrating that information I found elsewhere on-line often wasn't applicable to NuTyX. If you want to use a VPN you will find plenty of information for mainstream Linux distros. With NuTyX you are pretty much on your own.
Conclusions
In this review I have only really scratched the surface. Earlier, I mentioned that you can use the Cards package manager to build packages from source. That was something I wanted to cover in this review, and I did test the "ports method" in a virtual environment. Sadly, I failed at the first hurdle: the very first package, xorg-server, wouldn't install because of a missing dependency (xcb).
At that point I decided to give up on NuTyX's more esoteric features. There was another interesting option I had wanted to check - moving from SysV to systemd - but, frankly, I was slowly losing the will to live.
That is not to say that I had enough of NuTyX. I am happy with the NuTyX MATE install on my laptop. True, I didn't get everything to work but it does feel like it is my own distro. Plus, it is the most responsive distro I have ever used. The system boots very fast, searching and installing packages takes just a few seconds and even large applications such as Firefox and GIMP launch instantly. I am not sure if that is the result of less bloat but it sure is a pleasant experience.
In summary, if you like tinkering and are interested in Linux From Scratch then NuTyX is an excellent place to start. Getting everything to work will take plenty of effort and the project's documentation isn't great, but there is a forum with a friendly and helpful developer. Also, there are plenty of interesting features to explore. You will need stamina though - lots of it!
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Hardware used for this review
My physical test equipment for this review was a Lenovo Thinkpad X220 with the following specifications:
- Processor: Intel Core i3-2520M, 2.5GHz
- Memory: 8GB of RAM
- Wireless network adaptor: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205
- Wired network adaptor: Intel 82579M
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Visitor supplied rating
NuTyX has a visitor supplied average rating of: 7.2/10 from 14 review(s).
Have you used NuTyX? You can leave your own review of the project on our ratings page.
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Miscellaneous News (by Jesse Smith) |
VenenuX offers POS edition, Neptune supplies KDE packages for Debian, openSUSE's package portal, SolydXK on a Raspberry Pi
The VenenuX project has released a special installation disc which is based on Debian and features an installer for the Open Source Point of Sale software. Despite its name, the Point of Sale software handles a wide range of business and accounting needs, including dealing with customers, inventory and barcode management. The new Point of Sale edition of VenenuX also features commonly used applications such as the Firefox web browser. The special edition of VenenuX can run on 32-bit x86 machines and can be downloaded from the project's SourceForge page.
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The Neptune distribution runs on a Debian base and provides users with an up to date KDE Plasma desktop. The Neptune project provides its users with a newer version of Plasma than Debian's Stable branch does, so the Neptune developers have created a script which allows Debian users to install Neptune's Plasma packages. "As we got so many requests from Debian 9 users that wanted to upgrade their installation of Plasma 5.8 to Plasma 5.12 we created an upgrade script that will take care of importing our kde-repo into the system and upgrading the desktop to Plasma 5.12. All you need to do is download the script make it executable and execute it as root. (If you want to know what the script is doing take a look at its source code first.)" The upgrade script can be downloaded from the Neptune news post.
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David Kronlid has written to notify us that the openSUSE package search portal has been updated. "It's much faster than the previous one and it has a new design. (It's a rewrite in a new language and I haven't found any bugs yet.) It's done by
volunteer work and still not perfect so it can't really be compared to Google, but it's an improvement." The package search website not only finds software packages for openSUSE's official repositories, but also locates packages in community repositories. Links and download options are presented for each package. In some cases packages built for other distributions, such as Debian, are listed and can be downloaded for installation on alternative platforms.
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The Slax project will soon be publishing a new release of its Debian-based live distribution. Along with the many changes listed in the Slax roadmap, the project plans to sell USB thumb drives with copies of Slax on them. The distribution's blog post reads: "A few users requested a possibility to purchase Slax pre-installed on an USB drive, so I'll offer such possibility after the new version is released. If you like, you can support Slax by buying such USB device directly from this website. And if you don't like, you can simply download it for free as usual."
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Fans of the SolydXK distribution may be happy to learn they can now run the desktop distribution on a Raspberry Pi 3 single board computer. While the current disk images for the Pi 3 are still in the early stages of development, they do boot and run a desktop environment. A post on the SolydXK blog reports: "For a client I needed to create a desktop client for a Raspberry Pi 3. Unfortunately, there was too little time and Raspbian was chosen to solve the client's issue. However, I thought it was a shame not to do anything with the work I had done. So, I finished the image and I now plan to release it as a community effort. This image is based on Michael Stapelberg's 64-bit image. It follows Debian Buster and, as this is current Testing, it will have some bugs that need attention." The blog post includes a download link and invites testers to report their experiences in this forum thread.
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These and other news stories can be found on our Headlines page.
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Opinion (by Jesse Smith) |
SysV init - Init's alive!
Usually I like to use this space to discuss third-party software, command line tips or other people's technical problems. This week, if you will indulge me, I would like to discuss a project that I am directly involved with.
I tend to run conservative distributions, preferably ones with longer support lives. When I am not testing the latest releases of various distributions, I like to run systems which are, if nothing else, not going to surprise me. I also tend toward running operating systems which use fewer resources - Void, MX Linux and FreeBSD can commonly be found on my hard drives. So it is probably not surprising that around the end of 2017 I realized nearly half the computers I use were running SysV init rather than the more modern systemd or even Upstart.
Now, whether you like SysV init (hereafter referred to as simply "init" to separate it from OpenRC or systemd) you can probably appreciate that I was curious as to who, if anyone, was maintaining init's ageing codebase. There had not been a new, official release of init for several years. Was this because init was small and old with a codebase that got so much attention that any bugs were squashed years ago? Were the developers quietly pushing out patches for old versions without publishing a new release? Was the code simply being left to rot? I decided that I should find out since init was at the core of several distributions I was using.
At first glance, the upstream project appeared to be dead. Development had continued in the code repositories for a time after the last release (version 2.88), but the bug tracker and mailing list painted a picture of a project which had gradually run out of stream a few years ago. However, people had continued checking the code and writing patches. I found that several Linux distributions maintained multiple patches to fix small bugs, clean up documentation or improve performance. People had gone looking through the code and fixed problems. Then, without activity upstream, the developers had added their patches to their distributions' init packages and moved on.
The result was that there were several distributions running init, but some were running slightly different versions of init. Logs from init might look a little different across Linux distributions, manual pages might have different explanations for certain features. While it was good people had been fixing init as needed, those fixes were not being picked up and shared by the rest of the Linux ecosystem.
I wanted to improved on this situation. Relatively few Linux distributions may be running SysV init these days, but projects like antiX, Devuan and others continue to ship the classic init software. Other projects still use init, if only as a jumping off point for OpenRC to run. I thought it would be best if these conservative systems could all benefit from bug fixes, documentation improvements and new features. Since I hoped to unify the various branches of changes that were forming, I wanted to avoid forking init, so I approached the upstream team. They were welcoming and I became the newest member of their team. Then, with some guidance and kind words from developers who had worked on init in the past, I got to work combing through the patches and bug reports.
It was slow going working on an unfamiliar codebase and trying to stitch fixes together. Sometimes distributions had fixed the same problem, but had done it differently and I tried to put together the best solutions from the bug reports and patches available. At the end of February I was able to upload a new beta package of init for testing. Trying out the new beta on various test systems, both x86 and ARM, has gone well and a stable release should be available soon.
There are a few reasons I'm bringing the new work going into init to light. The first is I am hoping Linux distributions will test and adopt the new release that is about to be published. It would be nice to get everyone using the same code with the same fixes. That will hopefully make it easier to distributions to share improvements in the future and for users to submit bug reports.
The second reason is working on projects like this takes time. Working on patches and trying to find (and test) speed improvements on init takes resources and effort and it would go more smoothly if the project was funded, by either individuals, companies or downstream distributions that use the code. The work will get done with or without help, but I hope it can be done quicker with the support of people who are still using init for one reason or another.
The third reason is I would like to invite people to submit issue reports and feature requests to the upstream bug tracker. SysV init was sleeping, but it's not dead and can be improved to suit its users' needs. I think something which put people off using systemd was that it introduced a revolution in init software while many people prefer a gradual evolution of technology, with small improvements rather than radical new designs. I would like to find out what people who are using init, or are considering using it, want from their init software.
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Released Last Week |
NetBSD 7.1.2
Soren Jacobsen has announced the release of NetBSD 7.1.2. NetBSD is a lightweight operating system specifically designed to run on a large range of hardware and processor platforms. Version 7.1.2 is a security and bug-fix upgrade: "The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 7.1.2, the second security and bug-fix update of the NetBSD 7.1 release branch. It represents a selected subset of fixes deemed important for security or stability reasons. If you are running an earlier release of NetBSD, we strongly suggest updating to 7.1.2. Changes between 7.1.1 and 7.1.2: security advisory fixes - NetBSD-SA2018-003 remote DoS in IPsec (IPv6) and NetBSD-SA2018-004 remote memory corruption in IPv6; disable compat_svr4 and compat_svr4_32 by default on all ports; disable compat_ibcs2 everywhere but on Vax; remove svr4, svr4_32, ibcs2, freebsd from the module autoload list; disable LSRR (loose source and record route) and SSRR (strict source and record route) by default; amd64 - make the direct map non-executable...." See the release announcement and release notes for more details.
GParted Live 0.31.0-1
Curtis Gedak has announced the release of GParted Live 0.31.0-1, a new stable version of the project's live disc with a collection of tools for managing disk partitions and rescuing files. This release comes with the brand-new GParted 0.31.0 utility which is developed by the same team: "The GParted team is pleased to announce a new stable release of GParted Live. This release includes GParted 0.31.0, patches for libparted for FAT file system operations, and other improvements. Items of note include: add support for changing UDF label/uuid and show UDF disk usage; rollback specific failed partition change steps; based on the Debian Sid repository as of 2018-03-20; Linux kernel updated to 4.15.4; libparted fixes check FAT32 crashes and resized FAT32 not recognized by Windows. This release of GParted Live has been successfully tested on VirtualBox, VMware, BIOS, UEFI and physical computers with AMD/ATI, NVIDIA and Intel graphics. Note that the X desktop did not display on old Acer Aspire laptops; the workaround is to select 'Other' modes of GParted Live and choose GParted Live." See the release announcement for further details.
Zentyal Server 5.1
Zentyal Server is an Ubuntu-based distribution developed with the intention of making setting up a server and network services easy. The developers have published Zentyal Server 5.1 which is based on Ubuntu's 16.04 LTS release and offers improved hardware support. "Zentyal Server 5.1 is based on the latest Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS and comes with the most recent versions of all the integrated software. Most important new features and improvements include: Linux 4.13: Ubuntu HWE Kernel with support for recent hardware and not vulnerable to Meltdown and Spectre. New IDS/IPS module. New FTP module. Integration of SOGo 4.0. Integration of ejabberd 17.07. In addition, this version comes with important bug fixes, usability and performance improvements, specially in Network, Samba, DNS and HTTP Proxy modules (see full changelog for details)." Further information and upgrade instructions can be found in the project's release announcement. Zentyal Server is available in Commercial and community (called "Development") editions.
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Development, unannounced and minor bug-fix releases
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Torrent Corner |
Weekly Torrents
The table below provides a list of torrents DistroWatch is currently seeding. If you do not have a bittorrent client capable of handling the linked files, we suggest installing either the Transmission or KTorrent bittorrent clients.
Archives of our previously seeded torrents may be found in our Torrent Archive. We also maintain a Torrents RSS feed for people who wish to have open source torrents delivered to them. To share your own open source torrents of Linux and BSD projects, please visit our Upload Torrents page.
Torrent Corner statistics:
- Total torrents seeded: 781
- Total data uploaded: 18.6TB
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Upcoming Releases and Announcements |
Summary of expected upcoming releases
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Opinion Poll |
Running legacy or new software
Whenever there is a leap forward in technology, some people like to ride the cutting-edge to enjoy new experiences and features, while others hang back in order to continue using what has been working for them. We see this sort of divide when major new desktop versions such as KDE4 or GNOME Shell are launched. Some people jump on the new version while others run forks of the old versions like Trinity or MATE. We see a similar divide between people taking advantage of systemd's new features while others prefer to use familiar init software like Upstart or SysV init.
This week we ask whether you prefer to stay on the cutting edge of technology or hold back, using legacy versions of software. Do you embrace new options like GRUB2, GNOME Shell, KDE Plasma and systemd or do you prefer familiar software like GRUB Legacy and the MATE desktop?
You can see the results of our previous poll on educational videos in last week's edition. All previous poll results can be found in our poll archives.
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Running legacy or new software
I prefer to run new technologies: | 516 (26%) |
I prefer to run legacy technologies: | 363 (18%) |
I evaluate each on a case-by-case basis: | 930 (46%) |
I have no strong preference: | 201 (10%) |
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DistroWatch.com News |
Package database updated
Once a year the DistroWatch package database gets updated. During this time we remove old packages which are dormant and insert new packages which our readers have suggested as being useful or popular. Packages in our database can be used as part of searches and new releases are tracked in the left-hand sidebar on our front page.
This year we made an unusually large number of changes to our package database, adding ten new packages and removing ten others. We removed the following items: Alpine, Banshee, Cinelerra, gFTP, kdelibs, Miro, NcFTP, ProFTPD, RazorQt and vsftpd.
We also renamed a few packages to make them easier to find or distinguish from other packages. The lxde-common package was replaced with lxpanel and lxqt-common was replaced with lxqt-panel. The man package was replaced with man-db.
Finally, the following items were added to our database:
- Docker - a program that performs operating-system-level virtualisation, also known as "containerisation".
- Flatpak - a framework for Linux application sandboxing and distribution.
- Krita - a cross-platform application that offers an end-to-end solution for creating digital art files from scratch.
- libdvdcss - a library designed for accessing DVDs like a block device.
- Lua - a powerful, efficient, lightweight, embeddable scripting language.
- Lzip - a lossless data compressor.
- MyPaint - a nimble, distraction-free and easy tool for digital painters.
- qBittorrent - a P2P BitTorrent client.
- Rust - a systems programming language that runs blazingly fast, prevents segfaults and guarantees thread safety.
- snapd - a tool that enables systems to work with portable .snap files.
Further information on which packages we currently track and what changes are planned for the future can be found on our Packages page.
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Distributions added to waiting list
- Rocket Show. Rocket Show is a Raspbian-based Linux distribution for Raspberry Pi 3 computers. The Rocket Show distribution is used to provide light shows, audio and video for stage performances.
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DistroWatch database summary
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This concludes this week's issue of DistroWatch Weekly. The next instalment will be published on Monday, 2 April 2018. Past articles and reviews can be found through our Article Search page. To contact the authors please send e-mail to:
- Jesse Smith (feedback, questions and suggestions: distribution reviews/submissions, questions and answers, tips and tricks)
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- Bruce Patterson (podcast)
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1 • Legacy vs Bleeding Edge Software (by Rev_Don on 2018-03-26 00:38:36 GMT from United States)
I've been burned way too many times by newer buggier software that constantly crashed, ran slower, and offered fewer options compared to their older and more mature version to blindly rely on it (think the abomination that is Gnome 3). I evaluate each and every new version on a test system prior to installing it on a production system. I value stability, reliability, usability, and performance over new, untested, and buggy technology infesting with the next big thing (like LED everything).
I just don't have the time or patience for alpha/beta testing these days. I have things I need to get done.
2 • New vs Legacy (by dhinds on 2018-03-26 00:56:22 GMT from Mexico)
"Do you embrace new options like GRUB2, GNOME Shell, KDE Plasma and systemd or do you prefer familiar software like GRUB Legacy and the MATE desktop"?
Since I don't build systems from scratch, my preferences don't fit into either category.
Grub2 is over 8 years old and is practically universal.
I prefer fast and stable desktop environments (or their substitutes) like Openbox, LXQt and Xfce (in that order) to either KDE or Gnome.
I will customize them a bit but use whatever works best and breaks least. What that means in practice is Sparky Multimedia (w/ Openbox), Gecko Leap 42.3 LXQt and Calculate or RedCore LXQt.
I use the xfce4-panel w/ 10 desktops on all of them along with either the Tint2 or LXQt panels.
So I prefer new but fast and stable over eye candy and complex.
3 • Legacy or .. (by MikeOh Shark on 2018-03-26 01:43:01 GMT from France)
I voted legacy only because too many developers like new for it's own sake and if it breaks WiFi, sound, and other important things, it's not worth the hassle to hunt down the fixes. New needs to be better.
I hate to admit but the service manager in Windows XP is what systemd needs to make it tolerable.
4 • The best of all worlds (running legacy / new technologies) (by Sofia Smith on 2018-03-26 01:57:46 GMT from Spain)
On my laptop, now, I run multiboot. 1. Fedora: Gnome, Uefi, Secure, rpm. 2. Debian: Cinnamon, stable, universal system, +50000 pkgs, deb. 3. Arch: Plasma, cutting edge, fast, pacman. Usually, my prefered option is ThePerfectArch.
5 • I Evaluate Everything (by Darryl on 2018-03-26 04:06:27 GMT from United States)
I'm not a Linux n00b but I'm also not what I would consider an expert. I've seen a lot of things change since I first downloaded Linux. Some of it has been good, some not - I'm sure a lot of people like Gnome 3 but I personally hate it, it massively slows down my workflow. It's what drove me to XFCE and KDE.
New is not necessarily better. Functionality is much more important. Especially for people who need to get things done. That said, if the new shiny object can get the job done faster with less errors, then I'm all for it.
My desktop has 4 hard drives - Currently: Debian Testing (going on 3 years or so), Kubuntu, Windows 10, Windows 7. The drive currently holding Kubuntu Beta 18.04 gets a new distro generally weekly - sometimes daily - occasionally a little longer, but rarely.
6 • init: how is Void conservative? That and bleeding-edge vs conservative (by Brenton Horne on 2018-03-26 04:15:47 GMT from Australia)
I found the article by Jesse on his init work interesting, I also found it odd that he wasn't contributing code at the GitHub repo for SysV init he set up (https://github.com/slicer69/sysvinit) I thought he might have received so few donations he said, "Oh to .... with this!" But now I know why. Likewise I also found it odd that he was talking about how he likes conservative distributions and then mentioned a bleeding-edge rolling distro like Void as being commonplace on his drives. I suppose if you're looking for lightweight systemd-free distros you don't have a lot of choice, especially if compiling with Gentoo is out of the question.
As for bleeding-edge vs conservative, well I like to try out the latest technology (especially new GNOME and KDE releases), but I also like to keep a distro with conservative software versions, few surprises, i3 (which I find a very stable GUI) and my preferred i3 configs (https://github.com/fusion809/i3-configs) installed on my hard disk. Presently this distro is Debian.
7 • MATE because the passing of Ubuntu 10. (by Roy on 2018-03-26 05:03:57 GMT from United States)
I am really satisfied with UbuntuMATE. I will be glad when a fix comes to the GTK for webmoid but cheese is really all I need.
8 • SysV (by Florin on 2018-03-26 05:59:16 GMT from Romania)
Thank you for the info about the new beta release. I'm working to a OpenRC based version of Lunar Linux (a source based distro - see lunar-linux.org).
9 • choices galore (by samuel on 2018-03-26 06:23:53 GMT from United States)
> if you're looking for lightweight systemd-free distros
without-systemd.org
looks like more than 100 to choose from, up to you to decide what qualifies as 'lightweight'
10 • @9 Fair point (by Brenton Horne on 2018-03-26 06:59:21 GMT from Australia)
Fair point, but some require compiling, others have tiny repositories (and yes Jesse reviews a few from time to time it might be good to have reasonably-sized repos), small communities (including dev communities, to fix packages when issues occur, also minimal help in the case of problems, granted he's likely to be able to fix many of them, but we all need help from time to time), strict on open-source (e.g. Parabola), bleeding edge (as opposed to conservative like Jesse wants), etc. But I take your point well, there are more than I probably thought of, I was really thinking of more well-known ones. Thanks for correcting me, if I ever get the itch to kick systemd to the curb I'll know of more options :).
11 • Package lists on Distrowatch (by Andrew Yeomans on 2018-03-26 08:45:20 GMT from United Kingdom)
Many thanks for all your work collating the package lists.
Would it be possible to additionally upload the "raw" full package lists, such as generated by "dpkg -l"? That would allow people to manually compare the other packages that you don"t track in your database.
12 • Old vs New, SysV init - Init's alive (by Alexandru on 2018-03-26 09:13:18 GMT from Romania)
I voted "I evaluate each on a case-by-case basis", because I didn't find the more appropriate option. I don't try new software for the sake to see what it has to offer. I only use new software alternatives when they have a feature I need, which is not available in old software and has no visible regression from old one.
I want to praise Jesse for involvement in SysV Init project. This is the most straight-forward way to support the software. Congratulations!
13 • SysV (by X-Hacker on 2018-03-26 09:15:40 GMT from Greece)
Thank you, Jesse for the beta update, It's essential to keep SysV alive & hopefully it can evolve with a steady pace. Linux is about choices, after all!
14 • Legacy vs. bleeding edge? (by M. Edward (Ed) Borasky on 2018-03-26 10:00:18 GMT from United States)
Are you kidding? I run Arch Linux ;-)
15 • @6 - Void linux is conservative? (by Hoos on 2018-03-26 10:05:51 GMT from Singapore)
Void is a rolling distro and the packages are pretty new, but it is surprisingly stable even if you don't update for weeks, even months.
I installed Void+pre-installed cinnamon from an 11-month old live image, then downloaded and installed all 11 months' worth of updates at one go. It was super fast and problem-free.
Initiating updates in Void does feel like updating a Debian Stable installation - I don't read any update news or warnings, and just update "brainlessly" with a terminal command without needing to do anything else.
On that basis I guess you could consider Void conservative once you've got it up and running the way you like. However, the initial setting up did take some time as I was unfamiliar with it.
16 • @15: Void (by Brenton Horne on 2018-03-26 10:29:35 GMT from Australia)
I've installed Void too, several times too, initial set up was tedious for me too. It was fairly stable, except for two major problems:
* Flatpak had a bug that made it unusable. Tried installing packages with it and it failed. Needed Flatpak as Void's repos were too small to meet my needs. The funny thing is when I went into the #voidlinux IRC channel people were essentially saying if I wanted to use Flatpak I shouldn't be using Void Linux.
* A weird issue with the 4.15.x series kernel wherein while it would boot it would freeze up very quickly and become unusable.
Conservative to me means keeping old, well-tested, yet secure versions of software in its official repos. So I'm using it similarly to the term "legacy", in that way Void isn't.
As for the lack of need of frequent updates I've found Arch is just as safe and easy to update after months of being left to collect dust. Just because it's stable after such a while without updates doesn't mean it's secure to do so. After all some (and after months this would add up to quite a few) updates are security updates.
17 • Happy Voidlinux user (by mcg on 2018-03-26 11:13:57 GMT from Finland)
Voidlinux is not a fork, rolling release, runit, libressl. Extremly fast and stable. xbps pkg manager is fast. Whole installation really takes less space than any other distro out there. I am long time Void linux user and I will never go back to systemd distro. Void linux is best of all! Sure it is not for beginners but even the beginner can install it following the wiki. whats more Void linux community forum is really friendly. Have a nice day!
18 • new vs legacy (by DaveT on 2018-03-26 11:20:04 GMT from United Kingdom)
I have always run debian unstable on my laptops so mainly 'new and cutting-edge' software. The changeover from GRUB to GRUB2 would break my system daily but that settled down and since then nothing has broken in a big way. I dislike bloat so I abandoned KDE and Gnome many years ago.
Everything else runs nicely stable devuan ascii or OpenBSD or NAS4Free.
19 • Void Linux (by nano-me on 2018-03-26 11:57:03 GMT from United Kingdom)
@15,16: I too have started using Void Linux [again] as it offered a flexible way to get Spectre-Meltdown aware verions of Firefox, GCC and a recent [4.14.18+] kernel [compiled with up-to-date GCC]. The Runit init system is robust and accessable. XFCE4 completes. The xbps package manager is as "cool" as Debian's APT.
Of course, I really use a sinit-based init scheme, custom module-free "libre" kernels, Openbox as a DE, etc etc. However the base live XFCE4 system that comes with Void is entirely workable, and I retain the boot-time option of using vanilla Void.
Yes, Void uses a rolling release model. However, I would not call it "bleeding-edge". We are dependent on upstream package creators not releasing "still wet" versions of their code into the wild.
20 • New / legacy (by Bonky Ozmond on 2018-03-26 12:33:08 GMT from Nicaragua)
I generally use new... I use Gentoo / Calculate and void , but i am not someone who updates that regular,, I have rarely had any issues in the last 3 / 4 yrs
I also have a Slackware distro running which is as legacy as it gets and keeps plodding on
I did have Manjaro which did cause me problems a couple of times which was odd as the same updates didnt have same issues with Gentoo
21 • Full package lists (by Jesse on 2018-03-26 13:13:01 GMT from Canada)
@11: "Would it be possible to additionally upload the "raw" full package lists, such as generated by "dpkg -l"? That would allow people to manually compare the other packages that you don"t track in your database."
We have been doing this for a while. In each project's release announcement on our front page there is a link to the distro's "pkglist", that's the full package list. In addition, if you visit a distro's information page, right above the list of tracked packages there is a field called "Full Package List" with links to a full package dump for each version of the distro. Here is the package list for NuTyX 10.1, for example: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=nutyx&pkglist=true&version=10.1#pkglist
22 • init and Void (by |Jesse on 2018-03-26 13:47:21 GMT from Canada)
@6 "I found the article by Jesse on his init work interesting, I also found it odd that he wasn't contributing code at the GitHub repo for SysV init he set up"
Very early on in development of the fork (on GitHub) I updated the project's page (readme file) to mention all work had been upstreamed and future development was happening there with links to the Savannah repo.
"Likewise I also found it odd that he was talking about how he likes conservative distributions and then mentioned a bleeding-edge rolling distro like Void as being commonplace on his drives."
Void uses cutting-edge packages, but its approach to technology is conservative. It's much like PCLinuxOS in that respect. Void doesn't usually have the latest bells and whistles (Wayland, Snapd, etc). It's up to date, but in a technologically simple way. I'd also like to point out I didn't list Void as an example of a conservative distro, I listed it as an example of a low-resource system.
23 • systemd vs other init (by Carson on 2018-03-26 15:23:39 GMT from Canada)
As a user, I've never noticed a difference when using one distro with a traditional init, and another with systemd. It boots, I see my login manager, and then I'm in.
24 • INIT (by rel on 2018-03-26 15:53:27 GMT from United States)
Jesse,
Kudos for picking up the torch for SysV init... may it have many years of life ahead of it.
Is there a way to donate a specific amount to your efforts (one time), other than the patreon method?
rel
25 • Many a question of Distrowatch doesn't offer sufficient choice of answering to (by Gerhard Goetzhaber on 2018-03-26 16:18:39 GMT from Austria)
The current poll appears outstandingly tricky: 1. As far referring the basic system, me, I always try to get the latest version run, and this is even more true concerning the very latest kernel available from a certain distributor by fairly easy installing - which opinion exactly originates my clear current preference to Fedora Rawhide. 2. Regarding the great modern desktop environments' sad tendency towards endless imperfection, I have found my personal golden way with Xfce, evenly on my powerful workstations. I will never leave! 3. What belongs to certain software packages I frequently use, more and more I have come to compiling their most recent versions at least into rather conservative distributions (as for example OpenSUSE Leap) from source. For I have seen this better done with RPM based distros there is one more reason for me to prefer Fedora and SUSE before Debioids.
26 • Init software (by Jesse on 2018-03-26 16:21:03 GMT from Canada)
@24: Yes, indeed. If anyone wants to send a one-time donation they can send it to my e-mail address through PayPal. Anything going to jsmith at resonatingmedia dot com will come to me. Thank you.
27 • Bleeding edge or conservative approach? Difficult to answer (by Jyrki on 2018-03-26 17:10:27 GMT from Czech Republic)
I like it the way Void does it. Apps are up to date but technologically it's matured and proven. But I don't like their package manager (pacman rulez) and also they don't have enough apps in repos too. As for destkop I left KDE long time ago and I use Xfce everywhere. It's flexible, customisable enough, it's rock stable and easy to use. As for init - I always favoured bsd style init (not the one used in Slackware, I loved init in the good old Arch), I use OpenRC nowadays.
Since Manjaro openrc is dead, I run Artix on all PCs but some thing break from time to time, last time it was networkmanager so I am seeking an alternative. I tried DragonflyBSD on some machines and I like it more and more.
28 • New or legacy software? (by Sam Crawford on 2018-03-26 17:35:16 GMT from United States)
I've settled on Debian stable as my operating systems, especially as I run it on a laptop, as well as a desktop, and i just works.
That said I run Chrome that gets updated often, and a few backports. So I guess I like a stable OS but current software for programs I use daily.
29 • Absolutely Both (by Carl on 2018-03-26 17:47:17 GMT from Austria)
I've tried to avoid KDE as much as I could some time ago. Gnome was a no-go, stumbled over XFCE, didn't like it, Then LXDE, tried to like it but it felt quite a bit outdated. Now I am back to KDE with the upcoming openSuse Leap 15.0. Fastest boot times I have seen so far on any KDE based system and surprisingly stable. Never liked their Tumbleweed approach though - alpha testing is not my thing. My approach is to stay conservative with the OS but selectively install the newest versions of some programs as deemed necessary.
Maybe there is someone out there who can answer the following queston: Fedora and openSuse used to be amongst the major distros for a long time. But lately both of them dropped dramatically in the DistroWatch ranking. Any clue why?
30 • Support SYSV development (by Kingneutron on 2018-03-26 17:50:26 GMT from United States)
If you don't like SystemD (like me) I'm only working part time at the moment but I can afford $5/month to support Jesse's efforts. I switched from AntiX to MX17 and it's running well with ZFS -- and no systemd. Join up with the rest of us and help Jesse out!
31 • cutting edge (by Tim Dowd on 2018-03-26 18:28:10 GMT from United States)
I answered "evaluate each on a case-by-case" but I mostly want to stick with software I know and have used as long as possible. I only want to upgrade if there's been a major bug fix or a major advance in functionality. In the past 5 years for me that's been exactly two things: XBMC/Kodi as it has gotten more and more stable and LibreOffice5. Other than that my MATE desktop in 2018 looks a lot like my GNOME desktop in 2012. For me that's a positive thing.
32 • The Poll doesn't have my answer! (by Gary on 2018-03-26 18:33:21 GMT from United States)
My answer isn't up there. My answer would have been to get the best software that is able to do the thing I need it to do, legacy or not. I feel that I am in the majority here if people had been offered that option. Someone might have said that i could have pick a certain option, and that would have been close enough. But, that would be like an airline in Los Angeles saying to me that the closest they could get me to Miami is Atlanta. That is still too far away, in fact, not even close.The polling options don't come close to my answer (how I feel). So, I couldn't participate in the poll this week.
33 • Your Review on NuTyX and Jesses'opignon about sysV (by Tnut on 2018-03-26 18:42:04 GMT from Switzerland)
In behalf of my team, I would like to thanks you for this very honest and very true test on NuTyX. It's realy appreciate. Here are a few comments on my side:
- the install-nutyx script can in fact be used without any option which in that case will install in the default folder "/mnt/hd", using the stable branch, download from the standard depot server., installing the standard set of packages.
- The website is render by cards software as well that's why we enjoy this packages searching tool
- The issue with password will be fixed this week ;) thanks for reporting
- Thanks for reporting all the small missings apps they will be added in the next MATE ISO.
- The documentation process is a huge work, It's actually a continue process which can only be done by me it look like.
- Personaly I would like to thanks the team of DW for the amazing work you are doing to publish all thoses reviews.
- And last but not least, Thanks to Jesse for his effort on sysV project, we need that. I will most probably join. Even systemd is bigger, you probably notest they use the same method as sysV for launching services ... the link :)
34 • new and old packages (by a on 2018-03-26 19:10:58 GMT from France)
It’s strange to add libdvdcss to your packages list when DVDs have been obsolete for quite a few years. Meanwhile I still use gFTP and would use vsftpd if I needed an FTP server... (gFTP isn’t great, though, but I don’t know of anything better.)
35 • @34 Re: DVDs (by Rev_Don on 2018-03-26 20:34:16 GMT from United States)
DVDs aren't even close to being obsolete.
36 • Needed 'feature' (by Kragle von Schnitzelbank on 2018-03-26 20:48:52 GMT from United States)
@16 "Needed Flatpak as …'s repos were too small …" … "… if I wanted to use Flatpak I shouldn't be using …" … If you need packages not included in a distro's repository(ies), there are several choices - build from source (and consider contributing packages), import binaries (via ABI adaptation like alien?), or use one of several methods that trade vast storage space for 'convenience' - AppImage (generic), or Flatpak or Canonical's Snap (sandbox-ish, FreeDesktop etc) - by including runtime libraries and other 'standard' features, trying to avoid some dependency issues inherent in complex systems while creating others. Flatpak usage is only one option. … If the distro development community in question prefers a more robust, efficient and secure approach, and your priority is that some perceived convenience is more important, then I would agree you should only use other distros that agree with your choices. Trying to wag a tiger by the tail is just too risky.
37 • @16, @36 (by Hoos on 2018-03-27 04:00:45 GMT from Singapore)
To be fair to @16, Flatpak has a Void wiki entry and would appear to be an all-in-one-bundle+sandbox format that Void accepts.
https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Flatpak
It's not as if the wiki entry said, DON'T USE FLATPAK!
From my limited use, some Flatpak packages work better than others. I have no idea whether it's the packager's fault or a flaw/weakness of the whole Flatpak system.
38 • Flatpak (by Brenton Horne on 2018-03-27 11:50:27 GMT from Australia)
@37 Ya it does seem odd for a distro to have a package, a wiki entry for the package and yet people say one shouldn't be using the distro if one wants to use said package.
@27 Have you tried just putting up with XBPS? I find if you put up with something long enough it begins to not irritate you as much. XBPS seemed odd to me too but I decided to just deal with it and eventually I got used to it enough for it not to be so bad any more. Some things are nigh impossible to just put up with (like when you've got programs you just have to have) but package managers are seldom ever one of them. XBPS isn't too different from pacman (e.g. they both have syntaxes that take a bit of getting used to, they're both written in C and Shell, they're both very fast), the main difference is that pacman uses just one program (/usr/bin/pacman) to do almost everything (but packaging), while XBPS has several different programs (e.g. /usr/bin/xbps-install, /usr/bin/xbps-query, /usr/bin/xbps-remove, etc.) to do everyday package management stuff. Once you get used to that (which can be simplified by using shell aliases) it's not all that different from pacman.
39 • Artix (by Jake on 2018-03-27 21:02:11 GMT from United States)
@27: Yeah, Artix kind of breaks stuff a lot. I've moved on to Void because of it.
I also hate how their default grub menu is a large resolution (not 640x480) because it forces my VMs to display on a different monitor and doesn't fit into a nice size like my other "app" VMs. They do have some cool tools to build custom ISOs, but it's not documented, and I haven't found where the grub stuff is being pulled in (hopefully they will continue to improve the tool; I still like the idea of Artix and every so often try to make it work again, if only in a VM).
40 • Turning into a bearded sandals and socks guy (by Matt on 2018-03-28 03:45:08 GMT from United States)
I grew tired of trying the latest and greatest software. It wastes my time fixing things. Now I just want a few applications that work. That is why I run Debian stable on every computer I use. Part of that may be due to the fact that the older, stable stuff works a lot better than it did 15 years ago. The other reason is that I am probably slowly turning into one of those grumpy, bearded, sandals-and-socks kind of guys.
41 • @34 & 35 Re: DVDs (by elcaset on 2018-03-28 05:40:36 GMT from United States)
@34 & 35 Agreed, I still use optical discs fairly often watching DVD & Bluray movies, listening to music CDs, backing up data using BD-Rs, DVD-RWs, etc. Way more reliable for me than using hard drives & SSDs for backup.
42 • First stupid Distrowatch poll I've seen (by ned on 2018-03-28 08:03:10 GMT from Austria)
Just leaving a choice between the options
* new
and
* legacy
.....
how about
* working
??
Or would that be too revolutionary?
43 • Legacy (by Nick on 2018-03-28 09:51:48 GMT from United States)
I use SysV init for my daemon processes systemctl will never be on any of my systems until force.
As for KDE - I was forced to use plasma 5 because kde 4 broke down too much and is no longer maintained.
So in short - I use legacy for as long as I can until I see it as too much work to fight for.
44 • @34 @40 and happy to hear about Jesse's work (by StephenC. on 2018-03-28 19:48:37 GMT from United States)
@34 CDs and DVDs are a long, long way from being obsolete. Especially if you are dealing with someone like "Janitor Joe down the street" who works a minimum-wage night job and can't get email to work because Windows keeps crashing. Even peripherals like thumb drives never seem to cross their radar. They take it for granted that TV shows have lots of exciting computer magic used by smart people with lots of money, but never imagine that a lot of it could be possible at their own level.
@40 Somehow that happened to me also. I run Debian stable + some AppImage apps and everything else rarely gets beyond experimental VMs.
Best wishes to success in Jesse's work on SysV init.
45 • legacy vs new (by Jordan on 2018-03-28 22:23:06 GMT from United States)
Hey, today's new is tomorrow's legacy.
I run the new and take my chances. Within reason. ;)
46 • Sysvinit (by Wally on 2018-03-29 14:54:01 GMT from United States)
Thank you, Jesse, for taking up the maintenance of SysV init. I've drunk the koolaid of systemd because I use RHEL7 at work and Fedora at home primarily. But I also use Devuan on a few systems because I want to make sure I can still use SysV init. I plan on setting up sending a little money for you on an ongoing basis later this week. This will be the first time I contribute $$ to open source development, because it matters so much to me.
47 • SysV Init and bootchartd (by Jake on 2018-03-29 16:51:59 GMT from United States)
I'm not sure if this is a feature of SysV Init or not, but I like the compatibility with bootchartd. It's nice to be able to generate a graphical plot of boot times. I know part of this feature is something that systemd integrated into it, but it's nice.
48 • NuTyx (by RJA on 2018-04-01 16:52:57 GMT from United States)
At a glance, it appears to be another KISS distro from Switzerland, just like good ol' SliTaz!
But the review by Robert Rijkhoff, reported bad documentation, which starkly reminds me of Lunar Linux! (which I didn't even try, because of their bad documentation, IIRC)
It's disappointing that the GUI password utility, don't even point to the correct directory.
This is another distro that deserves a chance.
I would like to see those bugs squished!
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• Issue 1096 (2024-11-11): Bazzite 40, Playtron OS Alpha 1, Tucana Linux 3.1, detecting Screen sessions, Redox imports COSMIC software centre, FreeBSD booting on the PinePhone Pro, LXQt supports Wayland window managers |
• Issue 1095 (2024-11-04): Fedora 41 Kinoite, transferring applications between computers, openSUSE Tumbleweed receives multiple upgrades, Ubuntu testing compiler optimizations, Mint partners with Framework |
• Issue 1094 (2024-10-28): DebLight OS 1, backing up crontab, AlmaLinux introduces Litten branch, openSUSE unveils refreshed look, Ubuntu turns 20 |
• Issue 1093 (2024-10-21): Kubuntu 24.10, atomic vs immutable distributions, Debian upgrading Perl packages, UBports adding VoLTE support, Android to gain native GNU/Linux application support |
• Issue 1092 (2024-10-14): FunOS 24.04.1, a home directory inside a file, work starts of openSUSE Leap 16.0, improvements in Haiku, KDE neon upgrades its base |
• Issue 1091 (2024-10-07): Redox OS 0.9.0, Unified package management vs universal package formats, Redox begins RISC-V port, Mint polishes interface, Qubes certifies new laptop |
• Issue 1090 (2024-09-30): Rhino Linux 2024.2, commercial distros with alternative desktops, Valve seeks to improve Wayland performance, HardenedBSD parterns with Protectli, Tails merges with Tor Project, Quantum Leap partners with the FreeBSD Foundation |
• Issue 1089 (2024-09-23): Expirion 6.0, openKylin 2.0, managing configuration files, the future of Linux development, fixing bugs in Haiku, Slackware packages dracut |
• Issue 1088 (2024-09-16): PorteuX 1.6, migrating from Windows 10 to which Linux distro, making NetBSD immutable, AlmaLinux offers hardware certification, Mint updates old APT tools |
• Issue 1087 (2024-09-09): COSMIC desktop, running cron jobs at variable times, UBports highlights new apps, HardenedBSD offers work around for FreeBSD change, Debian considers how to cull old packages, systemd ported to musl |
• Issue 1086 (2024-09-02): Vanilla OS 2, command line tips for simple tasks, FreeBSD receives investment from STF, openSUSE Tumbleweed update can break network connections, Debian refreshes media |
• Issue 1085 (2024-08-26): Nobara 40, OpenMandriva 24.07 "ROME", distros which include source code, FreeBSD publishes quarterly report, Microsoft updates breaks Linux in dual-boot environments |
• Issue 1084 (2024-08-19): Liya 2.0, dual boot with encryption, Haiku introduces performance improvements, Gentoo dropping IA-64, Redcore merges major upgrade |
• Issue 1083 (2024-08-12): TrueNAS 24.04.2 "SCALE", Linux distros for smartphones, Redox OS introduces web server, PipeWire exposes battery drain on Linux, Canonical updates kernel version policy |
• Issue 1082 (2024-08-05): Linux Mint 22, taking snapshots of UFS on FreeBSD, openSUSE updates Tumbleweed and Aeon, Debian creates Tiny QA Tasks, Manjaro testing immutable images |
• Issue 1081 (2024-07-29): SysLinuxOS 12.4, OpenBSD gain hardware acceleration, Slackware changes kernel naming, Mint publishes upgrade instructions |
• Issue 1080 (2024-07-22): Running GNU/Linux on Android with Andronix, protecting network services, Solus dropping AppArmor and Snap, openSUSE Aeon Desktop gaining full disk encryption, SUSE asks openSUSE to change its branding |
• Issue 1079 (2024-07-15): Ubuntu Core 24, hiding files on Linux, Fedora dropping X11 packages on Workstation, Red Hat phasing out GRUB, new OpenSSH vulnerability, FreeBSD speeds up release cycle, UBports testing new first-run wizard |
• Issue 1078 (2024-07-08): Changing init software, server machines running desktop environments, OpenSSH vulnerability patched, Peppermint launches new edition, HardenedBSD updates ports |
• Issue 1077 (2024-07-01): The Unity and Lomiri interfaces, different distros for different tasks, Ubuntu plans to run Wayland on NVIDIA cards, openSUSE updates Leap Micro, Debian releases refreshed media, UBports gaining contact synchronisation, FreeDOS celebrates its 30th anniversary |
• Issue 1076 (2024-06-24): openSUSE 15.6, what makes Linux unique, SUSE Liberty Linux to support CentOS Linux 7, SLE receives 19 years of support, openSUSE testing Leap Micro edition |
• Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
• Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
• Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
• Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
• Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
• Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
• Issue 1069 (2024-05-06): Ubuntu 24.04, installing packages in alternative locations, systemd creates sudo alternative, Mint encourages XApps collaboration, FreeBSD publishes quarterly update |
• Issue 1068 (2024-04-29): Fedora 40, transforming one distro into another, Debian elects new Project Leader, Red Hat extends support cycle, Emmabuntus adds accessibility features, Canonical's new security features |
• Issue 1067 (2024-04-22): LocalSend for transferring files, detecting supported CPU architecure levels, new visual design for APT, Fedora and openSUSE working on reproducible builds, LXQt released, AlmaLinux re-adds hardware support |
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