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1 • Crypto vs Ads (by Mike on 2018-02-12 00:55:25 GMT from Australia)
I prefer ads with no option to switch to cryptocurrency. Bitcoin et al will never become mainstream and should not be promoted. Too many investment novices wil get their fingers burned.
2 • Please don't even think of running a miner on Distrowatch (by eco2geek on 2018-02-12 02:31:39 GMT from United States)
I'm really not interested in you, or anyone, running cryptocurrency mining software on my computer. If I find that you are, I won't stop coming here, but I will block every single last thing that I can block, be it advertising or mining code.
3 • Apples vs. oranges (by David on 2018-02-12 03:05:36 GMT from United States)
Jesse's rant makes a good point but ends with one that makes no sense. Who reviews, accepts, and commits the packages submitted to FreeBSD? Committers. Who puts packages into the Debian repositories? Committers. Yet, Jesse attempted to compare the process of becoming a committer to Debian to simply submitting a package to the existing committers in FreeBSD. You could submit a package to the existing committers in Debian too. The process to become a committer in FreeBSD is and should be much more involved. The BSD community may do a better job of upstreaming packages, but it's not because of the process involved in becoming a committer.
4 • Running Pixel OS (by eco2geek on 2018-02-12 03:12:26 GMT from United States)
Pixel OS, a new distribution added to the waiting list, doesn't seem to be anything but Lubuntu with a new wallpaper, some different widget styles, and some added software that Lubuntu doesn't ship with by default, but which the end user could easily add by themselves. So I'm not sure what makes it a "distribution", as opposed to someone's modified version of Lubuntu.
And their web site warns that the installer could bork your computer.
Also, you're going to have to change the locale and keyboard settings if you don't live in Great Britain.
5 • Solus Installation (by Winchester on 2018-02-12 04:17:02 GMT from United States)
I actually found the Solus 1.2.1 installation media to work more smoothly than the installation media initially released for Solus 3. The latter may require some GRUB boot cheat code. I can't recall the exact one ..... maybe nomodeset.
I installed Solus 1.2.1 ,then being a rolling distribution,updated everything to Solus 3 from the terminal command " sudo eopkg upgrade " .
The graphical GUI package / update manager sometimes will hang when there are additional dependency packages to install beyond the updated packages. It is rare but,it happens once in a while including when jumping from Solus 1.2.1 to Solus 3 so , I would recommend just using the terminal command,at least for the first set of updates.
Next were things such as " sudo sysctl kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=1 " and,after installing the Uncomplicated Firewall GUFW ..... " sudo ufw enable ". Added my user to some groups after the update : " sudo usermod -a -G " ( lightdm , wheel, sys). I might have had to re-add (as root) my normal user to the sudo group at some point early on. Added custom wallpapers to replace the (for most part) poor default selection of wallpapers in Solus. Had to change the default hot pink text color in the terminal. This can be altered system-wide or for specific users. After that,just added additional software from the repositories etc. .
The small panel icon issue can be resolved by removing all launchers from the primary panel and adding a second panel in "dock mode" which will enable larger icons. A couple of spacers and separators can be added as well.
These minor adjustments should be able to get beginners on their way. The operating system seems otherwise almost fool-proof for most intents an purposes.
Under Solus,you can even play almost all flash content WITHOUT installing the Adobe flash plug-in .... via FireFox and presumably the included gstreamer plug-ins. Some online photo editors may not work without the Adobe flash plug-in but,most every other form of flash content will work.
6 • No to mining (by Tony Agudo on 2018-02-12 04:57:20 GMT from United States)
Here's another option: Have advertisements by default, with the option to go ad-less(with a perk or two) with a Patreon or other micropayment subscription. With those two options, you're sure to get at least some actual money to cover costs.
7 • vote - yes ads no mining (by fonz on 2018-02-12 05:29:39 GMT from Indonesia)
the world is getting eviler with new tech. ive always rejected every cryptos since what exactly is backing their value? i dont mind ads as long as theyre not popups nor plugins.
8 • More (by Other options on 2018-02-12 05:59:50 GMT from Australia)
Please no mining. Why no have a 'subscriber' option instead (not necessarily patron) and add some benefits to suit. Mining would end a worse option than advertising imo. Also, why is Archmerge.com not on the distro list? It's far more mature than a lot of the re-skins and half finished distros already there... Which poses another question: can distros please be removed if they are not reviewed to be real world stable/usable? Or at least have some categories, stable and beta/alpha?
9 • Solus (by Ali on 2018-02-12 06:09:22 GMT from Iran, Islamic Republic of)
Tried Solus 3 few days ago. There is no option in installer to select partition for grub installation if your system uses legacy bios. This is ridiculous. Gentlemen, you don't have to reinvent the wheel if you can't add basic features like partitioning and selecting boot loader location. Use Calameras.
10 • Regarding ads (by eco2geek on 2018-02-12 07:33:18 GMT from United States)
If you're running short on funds because of all the people running ad blockers, make a public announcement asking them (OK, us :-) to turn them off, and explain why.
Or come up with some sort of premium services that people could get by paying a subscription fee (as @6 suggested, maybe via Patreon).
11 • Barriers to development (by Simon on 2018-02-12 07:43:42 GMT from New Zealand)
Well, the more trustworthy you want your operating system to be, the harder it has to be for casual contributers to add their code to it...or, the more time developers have to spend auditing those casually contributed packages. The ideal of a trustworthy operating system to which it's easy for anyone to contribute without taking up anyone's time doesn't exist: either it's hard to contribute (because you have to earn your stripes as a developer, as with Debian) or someone who's already a team member has to spend a lot of time auditing and then maintaining the contributions...or it's just a hope-for-the-best situation like it says on the AUR home page: "any use of the provided files is at your own risk".
It's not just "risk" in terms of malware, bugs, etc. Part of that long process of becoming a Debian developer is the Debian project's taking the time to ensure that someone submitting a package will actually bother to fix bugs and respond to questions etc. All of this is part of maintaining a trustworthy OS. Nine times out of ten, casual package contributers may be really great in that respect...but what happens when a package (that was, when submitted, nice and bug-free) breaks and the casual contributer has disappeared and/or just doesn't care? Fine if you're a hobbyist with the time and inclination to tinker with your setup, but Debian and its children power thousands of "mission critical" servers and desktops that just need to work the way they're meant to work. I'm grateful for the barriers that Debian puts up, to casually introducing packages to the OS.
12 • Upstreaming packages to Debian (by Alexandru on 2018-02-12 08:12:54 GMT from Romania)
The difference between Debian and FreeBSD is not limited to the process of committing into them. The official Debian policy is "release it when ready" does not apply to FreeBSD. That simply means, Debian prefers more stable software then more recent software. And the new software makes its way into Debian repositories much slower. It doesn't mean, the software born in Debian derivatives never reaches Debian. You can see Mate and Cinnamon in official Debian repositories, as well as Systemd and other packages.
That being said, the formal process of becoming Debian Developer is very long and difficult, the problem recognized by Debian project itself. That's why Debian Maintainer role was introduced, different sort of official documentation, semi-official documentation, easy-to-follow documentation, short documentation, wiki-like documentation and so on. It seems like Debian is more interested in finding available manpower to port and maintain the software Debian wants into its repositories, than in welcoming software authors to provide their software to official Debian repositories. That's why many packages special prepared for Debian are available from non-official repositories which can be easily added to Debian Linux.
13 • mining on distrowatch.com (by the usual suspects on 2018-02-12 09:27:50 GMT from Portugal)
Feel free to mine on this site. But I will never visit again. And I have overlooked the boring news stories, the same "fill in the blanks" reviews every episode, but I shall not overlook websites using my web browser- my cpu cycles- and my electricity to mine bitcoin. This is indistinguishable from malware.
14 • Ad alternatives (by Karkass on 2018-02-12 09:59:30 GMT from Poland)
The response to ads which slow down websites is the use of crypto which would slow them down even more? Since when did that become a sensible option? People who'd want to support their favorite websites would have even more of a dilemma: to either run some kind of "mineBlock" plugin, or have their (sometimes crappy and already overheating) CPU's subjected to constant heavy loads even though they're just reading articles. Bogus!
15 • Ads or mining crytocurrency (by Romane on 2018-02-12 10:25:48 GMT from Australia)
I chose the first, but actually, something does not feel right to me about such a behind-the-scenes means of making money, so would never switch to the mining option. If it became forced upon me, I have no doubt someone will quickly develop something that will stop such a process dead in its tracks (if such means do not already exist).
Ads give me choice, mining takes away that choice from me. I feel (rightly or wrongly) that to use anothers' browser for ones own ends without any option to completely opt out is immoral, even if it may be legal.
16 • Mining cryptocurrency vs advertisements (by Skinny Skimmer on 2018-02-12 10:27:32 GMT from Canada)
At the sunset of privacy and tech-ethics, is there any OEM scheme that pays end-users to use their products or brands? As a end-user I would definitely like to get paid in said scenario.
17 • getting into Debian (by bob_hayden on 2018-02-12 10:46:35 GMT from United States)
I do not know much about the general issues but I do wish there were a means of making more stuff available to Debian users. In particular, my experience with the optical disk burning software in Debian is that it rarely works, while that provided by Schily always works. The latter was packaged up almost instantly upon user request by the developer of Kwheezy, but AFAIK there is no package anywhere for users of Debian 8 or 9. Because of the bitter history here I do not expect Debian to put this in their own repositories but it sure would be nice if there were a repository for politically incorrect (and other) software that works;-)
18 • 9: Solus Installer (by Ikey Doherty on 2018-02-12 10:48:10 GMT from Ireland)
> This is ridiculous. Gentlemen, you don't have to reinvent the wheel if you can't add basic features like partitioning and selecting boot loader location. Use Calameras.
The installer is far older than Calamares (or even Manjaro) so I'd hardly call it reinventing the wheel. It was a design decision to not enable poorly supported per-partition bootloader given that the distribution defaults to ext4 and supported automatic encryption. Even GRUB will warn you during install that installing to a partition is a very bad idea. I have no intention of supporting that.
You're able to select any valid MBR disk for bootloader location in the installer, and with a UEFI install you can select any valid ESP (or the installer can construct one in automated schemes)
19 • Ads VS mining (by Kazlu on 2018-02-12 10:55:33 GMT from France)
Forcing visitors to mine would be a mistake, but doing an experiment is a great idea. For the sake of old computers users (like myself, I run a rather recent one and several old ones), I'd prefer ads as default with the option to switch to mining. That way, everyone can easily see the impact it has on one's computer performance. For the same reason, I would dislike resource intensive ads!
As for the ethical/political aspect of promoting crypto currencies, I am unsure. I wouldn't be decisively for or against it and will let other, better informed people develop their points. However, it is likely that more and more websites will go this way without asking permission or informing their visitors. Thus, I would greatly appreciate any information Distrowatch could retrieve and communicate in an experiment comparing ads VS mining.
Should mining like this become a problem in the future, I would not hesitate using a blocking extension.
20 • ads vs mining (by Dxvid on 2018-02-12 11:43:05 GMT from Sweden)
I've tried mining through web browser by going to a site which I knew used minero mining, (and I've also run similar tests directly on a few machines to see if I wanted to start mining or not on some of my machines). The web browser mining uses all available CPU time up to 100% of all CPU-cores which causes them to go into turbo mode, on my machines around 3.7-4.2GHz and this brings up the temperature to around 60-68 degrees Celsius (140-155 degrees Farenheit). This in turn switches on the fans on maximum speed and if they're not of a silent type the noise is quite annoying. On one of the machines the fans are so silent I didn't even notice that the mining was using 100% of 8 vCPU cores, I could also use the desktop like I do normally while mining. On the older machines with noisier fans it was really annoying to mine on the other hand. All chassis are of silent type with sound insulation. I did the tests for a couple of days on 3 computers in parallel and they normally use around 270W according to my UPS, when doing the CPU-mining tests they used around 750W! 3 times as much power consumption, and the heat and noise was disturbing. If I would've tried GPU-mining the power consumption and heat production would probably have been even higher. My conclusion is that mining shouldn't be done in someone's home, it should be done in a basement or a garage if done privately. If done by a company or in very large scale by a private person it should be done in a server room with AC or heat exchangers and very high air flow. Most people wouldn't even notice if you enabled browser mining and they were reading distrowatch for 5-10 minutes, but if they kept the tab open for hours they might get angry at the fan noise and the rising room temperature. One way to circumvent the problem is to lock the web browser to a single CPU-core, this would give you some money without creating extreme amounts of heat for the user, only this has to be done by everyone and it might impact the performance of the web browser. Another way is if you enable mining and give the users through a cookie or a link the possibility to choose how many CPU-cores they want to let you use. But if you enable mining I still think you have to make it opt-in rather than opt-out as many older laptops with dust in them or older computer with broken fans could crash or in worst case take permanent damage from overheating. That would be very bad advertisement for you if you break people's computers or make them crash every time they enter your site. I would continue to visit your site if you make mining opt-in even if I prefer cool computers and ads. I might turn on mining if I leave the computer/room for a while and open my window, for example during a lunch break.
21 • Ads & mining (by MarkE on 2018-02-12 12:04:22 GMT from United Kingdom)
I don't mind ads per se, what I do mind is flash ads, because they're so distracting. I wouldn't bother with adblock if there weren't so many animations shouting at you when you visit web pages. (I turn adblock off for your site, of course!) I'm ambivalent about cryptocurrencies in general, but I don't really like the idea of my computer being used as a mining tool. However, if mining was to be used for website visitors, I'd prefer to be informed on the website that it was going on, rather than it run surreptitiously in the background.
22 • @18:Solus installer (by Ali on 2018-02-12 12:07:15 GMT from Iran, Islamic Republic of)
Thank you Mr. Doherty. I prefer those poorly supported distros that allow me to install grub on the root partition. As such, I can use my favorite tools to handle my multi boot system.
23 • Ads V Mining (by kc1di on 2018-02-12 12:21:32 GMT from United States)
I Would be against any effort to use my machine for mining with out my knowledge. That being said I also hate adds that cover page content and that should be more regulated. also sometime not often on Distrowatch some of the added are inappropriate and should not be shown.
I love Distrowatch and know they must pay the bills of offering such a wealth of information. But it should be done in the least obtrusive manner possible. just my opinion.
24 • No Mining (by UpTheCreek on 2018-02-12 12:50:36 GMT from United States)
I shudder to think what mining would do to this old machine. One of the reasons I use Linux and am here to begin with, is that I can take this old box and have a strong environment in which to function.
25 • @ 18 Solus installer (by OstroL on 2018-02-12 12:51:55 GMT from Poland)
"You're able to select any valid MBR disk for bootloader location in the installer, and with a UEFI install you can select any valid ESP (or the installer can construct one in automated schemes)"
One problem of the Solus installer is that it doesn't like other Linux distros on a UEFI laptop. It doesn't like dual booting with them.
"The installer is far older than Calamares (or even Manjaro) so I'd hardly call it reinventing the wheel."
Maybe that it is old that it can only install grub with other Linuxes with it--show the other linux distros in the grub login screen.
Well, the MBR disks are now going out. No one is making them any more, just like the VHS cassettes. All other known installers would give a grub login screen with other Linuxes. Maybe, its time to redo the Solus Installer?
26 • @22 Solus Installer (by Ikey Doherty on 2018-02-12 12:53:51 GMT from Ireland)
I didn't say the distros were poorly supported, only per partition (specifically with ext4) bootloader embedding. Its far easier to do this stuff with UEFI fwiw. Anyway, if I had a wider selection of hardware (disks and BIOS implementations) then I'd be open to enabling it, but I don't, so I don't want to take the risk of entirely broken installs :)
27 • @ 18 Solus installer (by OstroL on 2018-02-12 13:01:25 GMT from Poland)
"Maybe that it is old that it can only install grub with other Linuxes with it--show the other linux distros in the grub login screen."
I meant here the UEFI systems.
28 • Opera's default adblocker with nocoin (by aquila on 2018-02-12 13:09:22 GMT from France)
Bitcoins are really hot right now, but did you know that they might actually be making your computer hotter? Your CPU suddenly working at 100 percent capacity, the fan is going crazy for seemingly no reason and your battery quickly depleting might all be signs that someone is using your computer to mine for cryptocurrency. This cryptocurrency mining can sometimes continue after you have first visited the site.
Simply enable Opera’s ad blocker to prevent cryptocurrency mining sites from doing their dirty work on your computer.
29 • Mining. (by PhantomTramp on 2018-02-12 13:27:27 GMT from United States)
I, too run slim linux distros on older machines. I don't believe my hobo-hardware would be much help to you. Having a switch to turn it on or off would be a good compromise, I think.
Thanks,
The Tramp
30 • Mining vs Ads (by ladislav on 2018-02-12 13:43:47 GMT from Taiwan)
In light of some hostile anti-mining comments this week, let me reassure everybody that we have never run any crypto-mining scripts on the site and have absolutely no intention to do so. The poll was a simple survey to find out what our readers prefer if given a hypothetical choice.
As for the ads - yes, we have quite a few of them on the site. If you don't want to see them, by all means use an ad-blocking plugin. Unlike many websites nowadays, we won't nag you to disable it. It's your choice.
31 • Ads vs mining; FreeBSD & Arch vs Debian (by Brenton Horne on 2018-02-12 13:48:57 GMT from Australia)
Ads & mining: well I don't think anyone likes either of these, but of course DW has to be pragmatic and support itself somehow. Ads should be the default. But a clearly visible button (like on the ads themselves) asking whether you'd prefer mining or a third option (e.g. Patreon) should be available.
I personally think Arch's approach is best. Have well-vetted, tested and trustworthy packages in official binary repositories, with a semi-official source repository containing user-submitted packages. One that anyone can contribute to. As for which is best after that (FreeBSD vs Debian) that is hard to say.
FreeBSD's approach at least means it's easy for new packages to enter the repository but it also means several packages are in limbo (no maintainer, not being deleted, just being left in a broken/out-of-date state) in its repositories. Like GNOME is presently stuck at version 3.18 (from September 2015) and KDE is stuck at 4.14 (from ~2014). They're stuck at these versions even though newer versions are known to work (based on them being tried in the https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports-gnome and https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports-kde) due to a lack of committed maintainers.
While Debian's approach means that packages are seldom deleted unless their upstream project goes belly up. But it also means fewer packages than there certainly could be.
32 • Not a viable option (by Trihexagonal on 2018-02-12 14:11:33 GMT from United States)
I hope I never see a marked spike in my CPU usage when I log onto this site, and I will see it.
It's bad enough to have to concern myself with Meltdown and Spectre without a site I trust (read trusted) attempting to use my machine to mine bitcoin, with or without my knowledge.
33 • @Jesse: (by dragonmouth on 2018-02-12 14:28:44 GMT from United States)
The idea of a new distro is to create something different than already exists (and to get your name up in lights). If what makes your distro unique were to be included into Debian repos, it would negate your distro's uniqueness and make it irrelevant and unnecessary.
Mark Shuttleworth stated in so many words that Canonical develops their versions of popular Linux software because THEY want to be in control of their development.
BTW - NO MINING! My PC is wheezing already.
34 • FreeBSD vs Debian (by Jesse on 2018-02-12 15:01:37 GMT from Canada)
@3: "You could submit a package to the existing committers in Debian too. The process to become a committer in FreeBSD is and should be much more involved."
I'd like to clear something up here. Yes, both Debian and FreeBSD have official package committers and it takes a lot of time/effort to get that official status, however their roles are quite different. In the Debian camp a committer is responsible for packages they enter into the distribution which means committers usually only work on packages they personally find useful or interesting. I have submitted a handful of packages to Debian committers and they were all rejected. Not because of errors or licensing, but because the committer did not want to take on more work, looking after a package they had no interest in.
On FreeBSD official committers also look over submitted packages and test them, but the FreeBSD commiter is not responsible for maintaining the package and keeping it up to date, the submitter is. As a result, FreeBSD committers rarely reject packages (unless there there is a security issue or they fail to build properly). They can accept any valid/secure package without worrying about the extra burden of looking after the package in the future.
This means FreeBSD can have relatively few committers (who check security/syntax) but a lot of submitters who maintain the packages. Debian tends to have a lot of committers, but few submitters outside of that core group because submitted packages are often ignored/rejected.
I'm not comparing the process to becoming an _official_ committer in my article above, I'm comparing the process for submitting and getting new packages accepted.
35 • Mining or Ads??? (by Tom Joad on 2018-02-12 15:43:11 GMT from France)
My thoiught is do ads first or, maybe, only. I am not against the mining thing but I am suspicious of 'stuff' going on in the background while using my browser. I know I would have to enable the mining stuff. But nontheless, I would rather not the mining take place in my browser.
This issue reminds me of an old political saying. "Once the Camel gets his nose under the tent, soon, the Camel is IN the tent."
Me thinks this mining stuff will become a wide spread issue in the not to distant future. And I am hoping No Scripts, for instance, will stay in front of it by allowing us to turn all that mining nonsense OFF. And the way things go these days browser mining will become a big, big issue.
For my part, I do not want that Camel anywhere near the 'tent.'
36 • Advertisements and so on... (by Per on 2018-02-12 15:56:40 GMT from France)
"Most websites which offer free content, including this one, are sustained primarily through advertising. Recently some sites have been experimenting with alternatives, such as mining cryptocurrency in the web browsers of visitors to the site. How this works is, while a visitor is viewing the website, their web browser works to mine cryptocurrency for the website. The owners of the website can then trade the cryptocurrency for cash or services such as web hosting."
Somebody creates website to publish something. After sometime, they might think that they are giving the readers a service, and that their website has to be supported by the readers. They forget to think that the web is an unending one, and no user/reader of their web content has to pay for it, in other words, it is simply up to the publisher to sustain the website. If the content is not interesting, the readers won't come again. The publishers think that if they add advertisements, they'd get money. True enough, but no one can force people to read those advertisements or even click on them. No one is saying that the website publishers shouldn't earn money, but whatever they publish is not compulsory to be read by the user. This fact is understood by the web browser developers, so there are all kinds of ways integrated to the browser to safeguard the user. The web browser developers had understood that their product is more valuable than the web site the user would look into.
Now, while we don't mind Distrowatch earning money through advertisements, but it would be good to understand that, if Distrowatch stops today, there'd be few other such web sites around and some are still to appear. Talking about ads, that's the time I go and make a coffee or go to the toilet, do something else, when TV ads come in while watching a TV programme.
37 • Mining (by Gooby on 2018-02-12 16:35:13 GMT from Moldova, Republic of)
This computer of mine is not a mine!
38 • Solus (by Me on 2018-02-12 16:35:39 GMT from United States)
"runs on 64-bit x86 computers exclusively". Why not just say x64? Almost downloaded it. My mind only saw x86. To me, x86 means 32-bit. I know, it's trivial. Just a comment.
39 • Compensation for use, Solus GRUB (by Stephen on 2018-02-12 17:13:04 GMT from United States)
@30 - Ladislav, I would welcome a premium option where I could contribute funding to cover my share of your costs and in exchange turn off ads. In setting up a contribution, it would be useful to know what that share of costs would be. For instance, what do hits to the distro pages cost per user? I use those for reference a dozen times a week. What does the weekly digest cost to produce in relation to the number of users? I read this digest most weeks. If there were a payment option and the costs were published, I'd be happy to contribute.
@26 - Ikey, Like some other commentators, I run a complex multiboot system (actually several of them) and rely on partition embedding. The main unreliability cited by Grub2's installer (and documents) relates to moving partitions or, in some circumstances, changing partition layout. Since this is something entirely in control of the system administrator, I have never encountered a problem with it in some years of managing systems this way. I understand your reasons for not supporting it, however.
As I recall, Solus can be installed with the Grub2 written to the MBR of a spare drive, and then Grub can be reinstalled embedded to a partition manually after the fact, but it's been a while since I tested that, so I may be misremembering.
40 • @ 26 Solus (by OstroL on 2018-02-12 18:12:18 GMT from Poland)
I have a Solus system installed in my UEFI laptop, and it only shows up, if I click Esc while my laptop starts. Then, I have to choose Linux Boot Manager to boot Solus. But, as I have other Linuxes and also Windows, and one of the Linux distros have the grub, I can see all other Linuxes and Windows, but I can't see Solus. What happens is after a while, I forget that I have Solus system installed. Most of us have multiboot systems, and we like to see what we have at the given moment. Solus doesn't like other Linuxes, so don't like to coexist with them, I gather.
41 • @41 - Solus (by Hoos on 2018-02-12 18:50:23 GMT from Singapore)
Solus has its kernels and img files in /usr/lib64/kernel rather than /boot, unlike other distros.
42 • Revenue methods (by Fairly Reticent on 2018-02-12 19:07:04 GMT from United States)
Contributing to worthy causes, including apps, distros & DW, is fine. I avoid subscribing. Burned many times. … With proper controls, I might explore putting my computer's otherwise idle time to use, whether locating distant stars or blockchain mining (and directing what's generated) - but I haven't seen any mention of a dashboard or advanced settings for general javascript or particular j'scripts. Ought to be. Same for cookies, etc. … I don't mind a few basic ads, even if related to web-page content, provided they're unobtrusive (including bandwidth/performance/storage). In fact, I've gone out of my way for a few websites to make sure their own ads display for me.
43 • Solus OS (by Philippe on 2018-02-12 19:55:03 GMT from France)
I have Solus installed since 2 monthes, in addition to Debian. Pleasantly surprised by this OS and Budgie desktop. Budgie is clean but maybe it ressembles to much to Windows10? The system is as fast as my Debian/XFCE. Updates are fast but less informative than Debian's updates via synaptic. However they always worked till now. Just one issue: sometimes - not always - the resolution of my screen is lost when coming out from suspend. Not found an other way to retrieve it than to reboot.
44 • Ads vs mining (by Bob on 2018-02-12 20:38:27 GMT from Australia)
I will block either option in my browser.
45 • ads vs. mining vs. patreon (by strg on 2018-02-12 21:06:06 GMT from Poland)
In competition of models reconizing creators I would most happily vote for flattr, which is a system much more presidposed to spread and be a big scale alternative. https://flattr.com/
46 • @ 42 (by OstroL on 2018-02-12 21:13:14 GMT from Poland)
"Solus has its kernels and img files in /usr/lib64/kernel rather than /boot, unlike other distros."
What does this has to do with multibooting Solus with other Linuxes in an UEFI system?
47 • mine on this site (by avelinus on 2018-02-12 21:27:18 GMT from Portugal)
Like someone, number 13, said "Feel free to mine on this site. But I will never visit again. And I have overlooked the boring news stories, the same "fill in the blanks" reviews every episode, but I shall not overlook websites using my web browser- my cpu cycles- and my electricity to mine bitcoin. This is indistinguishable from malware". If i know my cpu is used. my fan went to turbo, i end the visits to the site.
When i want something paid, I look for it myself.
48 • Crypto-mining NO! (by UncleVom on 2018-02-12 22:49:45 GMT from Canada)
Ads are annoying enough, but crypto-mining currency on my browser fsck that sith.
I often stop by here when my computer is doing something else usually a couple of times a day. It is already multi-tasking with what I want.
The site is interesting to me as I like to keep informed, but it could easily drop from my list, it's not that important.
49 • Bitcoin (by Scott Eno on 2018-02-12 23:58:10 GMT from United States)
If you ever mine my computer with your page i will turn you into authorities. I use linux to stay virus free not to have my favorite site for obtaining them send virus to my very very clean computer.
50 • Re: upstreaming packages to Debian (by Chris on 2018-02-13 00:00:20 GMT from United States)
Why in the world would developers of Debian based children submit their specialized tools, desktops and utilities packages back to Debian?!? These are unique features of Debian's children designed to get a user to use the child distribution instead of the parent. A good example of this is Manjaro Linux which is a child of Arch Linux but can be installed by a beginner, unlike Arch Linux which has a more complicated installation process. Furthermore, many of the customizations that Debian based distributions develop cannot be easily backported to Debian. An example of this is the PPA functionality developed by Ubuntu. Trying to get it to work in Debian requires all sorts of fiddling and even then it doesn't work the same way as it does in Ubuntu. The good news is that the source code for the tools, desktops and utilities that you like is freely available and nothing is stopping you from compiling it yourself on your distribution of choice.
51 • Cryptomining (by Mike W on 2018-02-12 23:59:59 GMT from Ukraine)
I dislike the idea of using so much electricity worldwide to mine cryptocurrency.
Already some security sites are starting to mention IP addresses and domains that mine. I'm sure it won't be long before someone posts an Ipset and iptables rule to block them.
What javascripts allow your CPU to be taken over for the task and are there specific javascript elements that can be blocked, say with a filtering proxy?
52 • Compensation for use, Solus GRUB (by Stephen on 2018-02-13 00:03:04 GMT from United States)
@30 - Ladislav, I would welcome a premium option where I could contribute funding to cover my share of your costs and in exchange turn off ads. In setting up a contribution, it would be useful to know what that share of costs would be. For instance, what do hits to the distro pages cost per user? I use those for reference a dozen times a week. What does the weekly digest cost to produce in relation to the number of users? I read this digest most weeks. If there were a payment option and the costs were published, I'd be happy to contribute.
@26 - Ikey, Like some other commentators, I run a complex multiboot system (actually several of them) and rely on partition embedding. The main unreliability cited by Grub2's installer (and documents) relates to moving partitions or, in some circumstances, changing partition layout. Since this is something entirely in control of the system administrator, I have never encountered a problem with it in some years of managing systems this way. I understand your reasons for not supporting it, however.
As I recall, Solus can be installed with the Grub2 written to the MBR of a spare drive, and then Grub can be reinstalled embedded to a partition manually after the fact, but it's been a while since I tested that, so I may be misremembering.
53 • ads (by Pat Menendez on 2018-02-13 00:36:23 GMT from Canada)
Ads are profoundly insidious! There is no such thing as a "relevant ad"! For myself, I don't care if the ad is for brand new Ferrari or Porsche cars for $5. I ain't buying!!!!!! Yes, there are sites that need ad revenue. It is incumbent on them to find a way to trick or work around ad servers so that the ads appear to have been seen but have not annoyed, insulted, frustrated, etc. the user. Find a way to display them invisibly. Put the ads in a tab that can be browsed. People use ad block for very legitimate reasons! People us Spam blockers for very legitimate reasons! Sites need to get a better deal and more options, leeway, in how to balance the need for income without driving away their users.There are several sites I have visited that refuse to function or let me access them unless I turn off my ad blocker. I go elsewhere for the information. I am not ever tempted or enticed to click on an ad and find most ads nauseatingly insulting to my intelligence! I can fully understand the need for funding to maintain a site and service. For as good and informative a site as this with the suspected huge number of regular visitors, an ad free subscription should be a pittance per year and to me well worth avoiding the insult of ads and the incumbent trackers or mining.
54 • @46 (by Hoos on 2018-02-13 02:38:24 GMT from Singapore)
I think you mentioned that in your multiboot machine, another distro was the main grub. But it might not be able to find the kernel(s) in solus when you updated grub, so might not generate any menu entry for it.
55 • Getting grubby (by Kragle von Schnitzelbank on 2018-02-13 05:14:28 GMT from United States)
Why not just name each partition, and boot to {name}? Might only need to install bootloader once. … (Warning: this may require (gasp!) plain-text boot-configuration-file manual composition and/or editing.)
56 • RE: 54 & 46 Grub. (by MoreGee on 2018-02-13 05:55:35 GMT from United States)
Puppy always saves the day for this. It will even let you edit the entries before writing GRUB. It will also save you from a Systemd or Wayland update. You just may have to reinstall the one that broke it. If it does it again have it install the boot loader to the partition and not the MBR. Then run puppy again.
57 • To Jesses opinion of upstream to Debian (by debianxfce on 2018-02-13 06:08:51 GMT from Finland)
Debian derivatives are a waste of human resources. Debian has over 50 000 software packages and that should be enough for most of the people. In Debian you have software like alsamixergui and qasmixer for alsa only users. Those are not in tumbleweed and there stopped my distribution change plans. Also the zynaddsubfx-dssi synth is missing from many distributions. Use the Xfce desktop and tweak it freely.
Big problem in Debian testing/sid is that because of the nvidia GLVND package (libegl1) and canonicall mesa maintainer, open source Mesa git packages from Oibaf ppa are not compatible anymore. Latest AMD hardware, Vega and Raven Ridge is supported poorly and mesa bug fixing takes a long time. It is horrible when an open source distribution breaks itself with closed source drivers.
58 • Liberapay (by sam on 2018-02-13 10:59:16 GMT from United Kingdom)
How about a Liberapay account. (like patreon, but opensource and lower fees).
59 • Post # 41 : Solus Kernels (by Winchester on 2018-02-13 13:00:21 GMT from United States)
Solus has its kernels and img files in /boot/ as well as /usr/lib64/kernel/ in my up to date Solus installation.
There are also symlinks " initrd.img " and " vmlinuz " in the main / directory which link to the latest LTS kernel and images etc. .
60 • Solus and GRUB Bootloader (by Winchester on 2018-02-13 13:33:01 GMT from United States)
It is somewhat of a small hassle that Solus installs its GRUB into the MBR without providing any other options but,at least on BIOS MBR machines,you can easily boot into another GNU\Linux OS from the Solus GRUB .... and then re-install the other GNU\Linux OS's GRUB2 back into the MBR if so desired.
Then,add the following entry into the other OS's /etc/grub.d/40_custom file :
menuentry 'Solus O.S. ( on /dev/sda14 )' --class solus --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-gnulinux-simple-6e85c15b-ff97-4e9e-9297-84c74c451704' { insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd0,msdos14' if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos14 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos14 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos14 --hint='hd0,msdos14' 6e85c15b-ff97-4e9e-9297-84c74c451704 else search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 6e85c15b-ff97-4e9e-9297-84c74c451704 fi linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda14 initrd /initrd.img }
In some cases, if using BURG or an older version of GRUB2 , just :
menuentry 'Solus O.S. (on /dev/sda14)' --class solus_os --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --group group_/dev/sda14 { insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='hd0,msdos14' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a557c63f-48d6-445e-9828-f8efc452988d linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda14 initrd /initrd.img }
Replacing all of the 14's with the appropriate partition # which Solus is installed into and replacing the "a557c63f-48d6-445e-9828-f8efc452988d" and " 6e85c15b-ff97-4e9e-9297-84c74c451704" with the appropriate UUID # of the partition that Solus is installed to.
When setting up a multi-boot system,I would install any Slackware system first (because its installer assigns a new UUID to the SWAP partition ..... at least Solus doesn't do this unless you tell it to) ..... Then Solus and / or OpenSUSE and / or Gentoo as they all install their GRUB bootloaders into the MBR no matter what ..... then install last the OS whose bootloader you want to be in the MBR. That seems like the best way of going about things.
61 • debian (by dolphin oracle on 2018-02-13 13:46:41 GMT from United States)
@57
it has often been noted in history that whenever this phrase is uttered:
"and that should be enough for most of the people. "
it almost invariably isn't.
62 • Feeding back to Debian (by CSRoad on 2018-02-13 15:38:13 GMT from Canada)
The basic concept is good, Debian does have great volume in the repositories and most of the devs and maintainers are excellent.
The problem I see is that Debian is no longer truly "The Universal Operating System", it is really just another Gnome/freedesktop/systemd distro, but with the above listed benefits.
When Debian forked itself back on the Gnome/freedesktop/systemd path it became so tangled and committed that child distros are having to deviate further and further if Debian's current vision and dependency choices do not match their own.
The Debian system still makes a lot of sense as well stocked base distro, but it makes limited sense to feed back pieces that no longer fit Debian's currently limited vision of what a distro should be.
Maybe in many cases when it comes to functional improvements to existing software it might make sense to feed these further upstream to the original dev as well as offer it to the deb maintainer.
As you may gather I'm no fan of what Debian has become, but I really don't want to start a fanboi battle, but rather just express what I see as possibly a futile effort in pushing pieces that no longer fit the mold back into Debian.
63 • DebIan process-management methods (not just init) (by Somewhat Reticent on 2018-02-13 16:34:13 GMT from United States)
One fine point deserves mention: DebIan developers have also worked on keeping process-management method (systemd/xml, sysV/text-configs) options open, and one derivative distro uses and appreciates their consideration/effort.
64 • mining, etc. (by Jordan on 2018-02-13 16:54:26 GMT from United States)
@30 thanks for that explanation, ladislav.
65 • crypto and ads (by edcoolio on 2018-02-13 21:37:28 GMT from United States)
Let me be crystal clear:
If mining is ever forced on me, my friends, business, or family - the website in question will be blocked at the router level forever. Period.
I don't care how light it is on resources, I don't care that "I will hardly notice", I don't care that I'm warned in advance. Mining on my equipment for the profit of others = blocked forever.
It is a stupid trend that has wrecked the financials of many individuals trying to chase vapor, it wastes electricity on a monumental scale, it squanders otherwise useful equipment, and it has all but destroyed the graphics card market for gamers/end users. Nothing like wrecking the environment AND fun for gamers in one fell swoop.
That being said, a system whereby an ad-free "login" that enables mining is perfectly acceptable. Of course, it needs to be very, very obvious that the user is logging into the website for the ad-free benefits via mining. The payment for no ads is the ability for the website to run the code (*cough* virus *cough*).
To each their own, but personally, I would never allow this to run on my equipment in a million years.
66 • A solution (by Simon on 2018-02-14 00:16:11 GMT from United Kingdom)
Surprised about all the FUD regarding cryptos here. However ...
The solution to removing ads and mining and still allow websites to earn from visitors: https://oysterprotocol.com/
67 • oysterprotocol (by Jordan on 2018-02-14 12:29:27 GMT from United States)
@66
Nah. I hope the site operators here just go with ads. As long as they are not intrusive flashing ads or popups or popunders, I've okay with it. I'll turn off my ad blocker and be willing to sign an agreement to that effect for distrowatch.
68 • FUD ? (by edcoolio on 2018-02-14 18:41:37 GMT from United States)
@66
FUD regarding cryptos? Maybe we are reading different comments here on DW.
I have read no one espousing a fear of of cryptos.
No one seems uncertain about cryptos, however they do seem opinionated (like both you and myself).
There is no doubt. Most do not want our CPU's or GPU cycles eaten up in the background by a website without our explicit approval.
To be sure, there are differing opinions (both positive and negative) to crypto mining on website visits and in general, but stating there is "FUD" about the subject amongst DW comments seems a bit much. People here, as a rule, are far to tech. savvy to be painted with such a broad brush regarding crypto... or anything else.
69 • Mining (by Jem on 2018-02-15 03:35:35 GMT from United Kingdom)
Let's be very clear here: Any site implementing mining in the browser, is going to increase the electricity bill of the end user dramatically. The PSU on my Mac normally draws around 100W of power. With web mining, that will increase to about 400W. Being on that website is then actively costing me money, as opposed to Salon's claim that "you're just wasting it anyway".
Electricity is not cheap, and it's getting even less so over time. Meanwhile, ROI on crypto is poor as well so the site won't make much from this. And then there's the environmental impact. Basically, this is an insanely stupid idea where LITERALLY EVERYONE LOSES.
70 • Custom software in Debian based distros (by Kazlu on 2018-02-15 14:44:17 GMT from France)
@Jesse "Both SparkyLinux and MX Linux are based on Debian and closely related, but MX doesn't have Sparky's Lumina package. And, for that matter, Sparky does not have access to MX's custom configuration tools."
Maybe I am missing something here, but wouldn't it be possible to add Sparky's repositories in MX Linux (checking that they are usually associated with the same version of Debian as a base) and then install Lumina from that repo in MX Linux? Or the other way around of course?
71 • Mixing repositories (by Jesse on 2018-02-15 15:02:16 GMT from Canada)
>> "Maybe I am missing something here, but wouldn't it be possible to add Sparky's repositories in MX Linux"
You could try, but I would highly recommend against it. If MX and Sparky had repositories solely for their own packages (and packages they had patched uniquely) and never included anything else, then you could probably get away with it. But custom distro repositories can have different versions of libraries, packages with unique patches, etc. You're likely to risk having packages from one repo replace those in another. Or a package update in one repo change your setup.
Imagine the frustration if every so often an update from the second distro disabled a media codec, or the other distro shipped a new kernel version that did not include your wireless driver.
And that's in a situation where most packages are compatible, but different distros have slightly different settings. It gets worse if you look at situations like Unity 7 where Canonical patched system libraries to handle their new desktop. You probably don't want the custom libraries overwriting the ones your applications rely on to work.
72 • Ads/Mining (by mchlbk on 2018-02-15 16:04:56 GMT from Denmark)
Mining: Never. Widespread implementation of browser mining will cause even more people to block ads. (The filters block mining too.)
Ads: A while back I disabled adblocking to support DW. Unfortunately, as the ads were inappropriate, I re-enabled it after a few days.
73 • @36 Advertisements and so on... (by Kazlu on 2018-02-15 16:24:07 GMT from France)
"Somebody creates website to publish something. After sometime, they might think that they are giving the readers a service, and that their website has to be supported by the readers."
Has it come to your mind that maintaining a website to publish something is not free? Either you pay a company that hosts your website, or you pay for the domain name and host the website yourself, which requires a computer running 24/7 that consumes some energy. And I'm not counting the Internet bill when you need a decent upload bitrate to feed your readers.
And that's just for a website which would be fed on your spare time, meaning you have a job outside of the website to be able to, well, buy some food. In order to have websites that provide more in-depth analysis and some technical information, the people publishing on it need to spend much more time on it. Meaning they cannot work full-time on something else. Therefore, then must find some other source of revenue for, well, buying some food.
If no one were earning money from websites, the web would only be filled with blogs and cats videos. It's already a large part of it, but there wouldn't be any really technical website in addition to find information, like Distrowatch is.
74 • @57 "Debian derivatives are a waste of human resources." (by Kazlu on 2018-02-15 16:36:18 GMT from France)
I tried Debian, it works well but it's quite barebones and not practical in the long run. I had to dive often into documentation to set what in many other distros is a casual setting. I now run MX Linux, a Debian derivative, which is *much* easier - and takes less time - to manage day-to-day. It's not just a question of the number of packages available, it's also what is actually installed by default and how is everything configured.
Actually, I don't need specific MX Linux software. A Debian respin, using nothing else than software from Debian repos but with different settings, could be entirely sufficient. But that does not exist to my knowledge (Point Linux maybe?) and I do not have the spare time do do this myself. MX Linux has a solution that completely fits my needs, so I use it and I made a donation since this distro really made me spare some time! I also did a donation to Debian though, since I need it as well in the end :)
I suppose YMMV.
75 • Mining (by ned on 2018-02-15 17:16:22 GMT from Austria)
Mining ==> Goodbye Distrowatch
It was fun while it lasted. Well, all things must pass ...
76 • a (by a on 2018-02-15 19:59:12 GMT from France)
Worst poll ever.
77 • @ 73 websites and so on.. (by Per on 2018-02-15 21:17:41 GMT from France)
"Has it come to your mind that maintaining a website to publish something is not free? Either you pay a company that hosts your website, or you pay for the domain name and host the website yourself, which requires a computer running 24/7 that consumes some energy."
You should at least know how to stay afloat, before you jump in water. And, that staying afloat can be done for short time, if you don't know how to swim. You can always have a blog for free offered by some websites like Wordpress. But, if you are into business, then you should find a way to make a profit. If ads make you money that;s OK by us, but if you want use our electricity and some other things on the sly, you are NOT wanted, whatever the contents is!
Btw, this website is pretty old fashioned, and the reviews are as someone said here "fill in the blanks", the same way all the time. There is nothing seriously interesting here these days. For example, Solus 3 was released on 15th August 2017, but the review is in the middle of February 2018. How many other websites reviewed this distro within one month since its release!
If ads don't pay, then DWW has to find another way to sustain itself. DWW is a business, so the decision is not ours.
78 • How much is monero trading for these days anyway? (by CS on 2018-02-15 23:02:41 GMT from United States)
2017 was the year of the cryptocurrency. Bandwagon has left the station.
The various coinhive scammers managed to make a pitiful amount of money, kill usability (see e.g. https://twitter.com/bad_packets/status/963512608610332672) and many malware programs now block them.
You'll be better off with the Patreon type approaches.
79 • @77 "There is nothing seriously interesting here these days" (by curious on 2018-02-16 08:59:50 GMT from Germany)
Nobody is forcing you to visit this website. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...
80 • Ads and/or Patreon, but no mining (by Lionel on 2018-02-16 09:44:42 GMT from France)
Unsurprisingly, mining isn't the preferred option among users, to say the least. If the current ad system isn't enough, I suppose that Patreon could help. Even though I don't believe that you're going to implement the idea because users would strongly resent it, and that would hurt you, I've just marked DW as untrusted for script execution ;)
81 • @ 79 "There is nothing seriously interesting here these days" (by Per on 2018-02-16 10:05:50 GMT from France)
"Nobody is forcing you to visit this website. Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
Exactly! The same way, the website shouldn't force the random readers to pay for it in a sly way!
82 • Something Interesting Here (by Winchester on 2018-02-16 11:35:43 GMT from United States)
Where else can you find out about all of the "exciting" new Lubuntu and Xubuntu clones with alternate themes and fonts??
83 • Packages not flowing upstream into Debian (by Mauro on 2018-02-16 13:05:52 GMT from Argentina)
I can't have an opinion about FreeBSD because I really don't know the workflow, but about Debian packaging, I think the fundamental difference is the fact that when a maintainer takes a particular software under his/her wing, they take responsibility for adhering to the specifics of the Debian policy (that is licensing check, separating libraries from package, making it available to the different architectures [x86 and amd64 are not the only ones], and a lot of other tasks that make the user life easier).
But above all, the maintainter obliges himself to keep the package updated, and that means: a) keep "testing" & "unstable" in sync with upstream; b) backport security fixes when the package is in the stable repository; and c) take care of bugs during the whole lifespan of the release, even with an older toolchain and libraries.
That is IMHO what makes Debian both a "Stable" OS and a "Universal" OS. Not always is a developer in a position (and/or have time) to take such a high responsibility.
(pardon me, I'm slowly correcting my English)
84 • People need to read more (by Garon on 2018-02-16 15:41:29 GMT from United States)
@all the whiners.
What is wrong with you people? It seems that a lot of you are commenting without reading the other comments. Before you start bitching and crying please read comment #30 and stop being so arrogant.
85 • Cryptomining (by Meya Yu on 2018-02-17 20:10:04 GMT from Canada)
If I ever find that this site is crypto mining, that will be the end of my coming here.
And the fallout on social media would be EPIC- because I'm not very nice when it comes to lambasting a site on my Twitter page....
I'm okay with ads- I'm also okay with the whole donating through PayPal (which I've done). But you start using my CPU for your own gain, and that will be the end of my using this site....
PERIOD.
86 • upstream (by ludvig on 2018-02-17 20:48:08 GMT from United States)
a topic page with 52 posts on the subject, inspired by the DW article:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/7www6v/deb_packages_are_not_getting_upstream_to_debian
So far, I haven't found a related slashdot or ycombinator (HackerNew) discussion -- which is surprising to me, because I think it's an important issue to discuss.
87 • Mining (by hotdiggettydog on 2018-02-18 01:08:45 GMT from Canada)
I'm pretty sure DW brought up mining to get a rise out of us. We expect it at dicey sites like piratebay and porn.
Btw, Torbrowser and firejail should be enough to discourage miners.
88 • Devun 2.0Beta grub multiboot-NFG (by Sarcastic Fringehead on 2018-02-18 04:39:19 GMT from United States)
Installed on sda1&2, sda3&4 have Salix, on an SSD. Got a complaint box during install, grub "this may not be an error", but when I booted, I got grub rescue prompt. Re-installed Mint on sda1&2, all OK now, but it looks like Devuan may not have tested for multiboot setups. Has anyone else run into this?
89 • .deb packages not swimming upstream (by Kragle von Schnitzelbank on 2018-02-18 05:50:18 GMT from United States)
Aren't these Freed Open-Source software?
90 • .deb (by tim on 2018-02-18 18:30:03 GMT from United States)
.deb filetype is simply an archive file format. Some debfiles do (esp those packaged by 3rd parties, "doing us a favor" by packaging their software so that it is installable on users' systems) contain non-free content.
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| • Issue 1157 (2026-01-26): Setting up a home server, what happened to convergence, malicious software entering the Snap store, postmarketOS automates hardware tests, KDE's login manager works with systemd only |
| • Issue 1156 (2026-01-19): Chimera Linux's new installer, using the DistroWatch Torrent Corner, new package tools for Arch, Haiku improves EFI support, Redcore streamlines branches, Synex introduces install-time ZFS options |
| • Issue 1155 (2026-01-12): MenuetOS, CDE on Sparky, iDeal OS 2025.12.07, recommended flavour of BSD, Debian seeks new Data Protection Team, Ubuntu 25.04 nears its end of life, Google limits Android source code releases, Fedora plans to replace SDDM, Budgie migrates to Wayland |
| • Issue 1154 (2026-01-05): postmarketOS 25.06/25.12, switching to Linux and educational resources, FreeBSD improving laptop support, Unix v4 available for download, new X11 server in development, CachyOS team plans server edtion |
| • Issue 1153 (2025-12-22): Best projects of 2025, is software ever truly finished?, Firefox to adopt AI components, Asahi works on improving the install experience, Mageia presents plans for version 10 |
| • Issue 1152 (2025-12-15): OpenBSD 7.8, filtering websites, Jolla working on a Linux phone, Germany saves money with Linux, Ubuntu to package AMD tools, Fedora demonstrates AI troubleshooting, Haiku packages Go language |
| • Issue 1151 (2025-12-08): FreeBSD 15.0, fun command line tricks, Canonical presents plans for Ubutnu 26.04, SparkyLinux updates CDE packages, Redox OS gets modesetting driver |
| • Issue 1150 (2025-12-01): Gnoppix 25_10, exploring if distributions matter, openSUSE updates tumbleweed's boot loader, Fedora plans better handling of broken packages, Plasma to become Wayland-only, FreeBSD publishes status report |
| • Issue 1149 (2025-11-24): MX Linux 25, why are video drivers special, systemd experiments with musl, Debian Libre Live publishes new media, Xubuntu reviews website hack |
| • Issue 1148 (2025-11-17): Zorin OS 18, deleting a file with an unusual name, NetBSD experiments with sandboxing, postmarketOS unifies its documentation, OpenBSD refines upgrades, Canonical offers 15 years of support for Ubuntu |
| • Issue 1147 (2025-11-10): Fedora 43, the size and stability of the Linux kernel, Debian introducing Rust to APT, Redox ports web engine, Kubuntu website off-line, Mint creates new troubleshooting tools, FreeBSD improves reproducible builds, Flatpak development resumes |
| • Issue 1146 (2025-11-03): StartOS 0.4.0, testing piped commands, Ubuntu Unity seeks help, Canonical offers Ubuntu credentials, Red Hat partners with NVIDIA, SUSE to bundle AI agent with SLE 16 |
| • Issue 1145 (2025-10-27): Linux Mint 7 "LMDE", advice for new Linux users, AlmaLinux to offer Btrfs, KDE launches Plasma 6.5, Fedora accepts contributions written by AI, Ubuntu 25.10 fails to install automatic updates |
| • Issue 1144 (2025-10-20): Kubuntu 25.10, creating and restoring encrypted backups, Fedora team debates AI, FSF plans free software for phones, ReactOS addresses newer drivers, Xubuntu reacts to website attack |
| • Issue 1143 (2025-10-13): openSUSE 16.0 Leap, safest source for new applications, Redox introduces performance improvements, TrueNAS Connect available for testing, Flatpaks do not work on Ubuntu 25.10, Kamarada plans to switch its base, Solus enters new epoch, Frugalware discontinued |
| • Issue 1142 (2025-10-06): Linux Kamarada 15.6, managing ZIP files with SQLite, F-Droid warns of impact of Android lockdown, Alpine moves ahead with merged /usr, Cinnamon gets a redesigned application menu |
| • Issue 1141 (2025-09-29): KDE Linux and GNOME OS, finding mobile flavours of Linux, Murena to offer phones with kill switches, Redox OS running on a smartphone, Artix drops GNOME |
| • Issue 1140 (2025-09-22): NetBSD 10.1, avoiding AI services, AlmaLinux enables CRB repository, Haiku improves disk access performance, Mageia addresses service outage, GNOME 49 released, Linux introduces multikernel support |
| • Issue 1139 (2025-09-15): EasyOS 7.0, Linux and central authority, FreeBSD running Plasma 6 on Wayland, GNOME restores X11 support temporarily, openSUSE dropping BCacheFS in new kernels |
| • Issue 1138 (2025-09-08): Shebang 25.8, LibreELEC 12.2.0, Debian GNU/Hurd 2025, the importance of software updates, AerynOS introduces package sets, postmarketOS encourages patching upstream, openSUSE extends Leap support, Debian refreshes Trixie media |
| • Issue 1137 (2025-09-01): Tribblix 0m37, malware scanners flagging Linux ISO files, KDE introduces first-run setup wizard, CalyxOS plans update prior to infrastructure overhaul, FreeBSD publishes status report |
| • Issue 1136 (2025-08-25): CalyxOS 6.8.20, distros for running containers, Arch Linux website under attack,illumos Cafe launched, CachyOS creates web dashboard for repositories |
| • Issue 1135 (2025-08-18): Debian 13, Proton, WINE, Wayland, and Wayback, Debian GNU/Hurd 2025, KDE gets advanced Liquid Glass, Haiku improves authentication tools |
| • Issue 1134 (2025-08-11): Rhino Linux 2025.3, thoughts on malware in the AUR, Fedora brings hammered websites back on-line, NetBSD reveals features for version 11, Ubuntu swaps some command line tools for 25.10, AlmaLinux improves NVIDIA support |
| • Issue 1133 (2025-08-04): Expirion Linux 6.0, running Plasma on Linux Mint, finding distros which support X11, Debian addresses 22 year old bug, FreeBSD discusses potential issues with pkgbase, CDE ported to OpenBSD, Btrfs corruption bug hitting Fedora users, more malware found in Arch User Repository |
| • Issue 1132 (2025-07-28): deepin 25, wars in the open source community, proposal to have Fedora enable Flathub repository, FreeBSD plans desktop install option, Wayback gets its first release |
| • Issue 1131 (2025-07-21): HeliumOS 10.0, settling on one distro, Mint plans new releases, Arch discovers malware in AUR, Plasma Bigscreen returns, Clear Linux discontinued |
| • Issue 1130 (2025-07-14): openSUSE MicroOS and RefreshOS, sharing aliases between computers, Bazzite makes Bazaar its default Flatpak store, Alpine plans Wayback release, Wayland and X11 benchmarked, Red Hat offers additional developer licenses, openSUSE seeks feedback from ARM users, Ubuntu 24.10 reaches the end of its life |
| • Issue 1129 (2025-07-07): GLF OS Omnislash, the worst Linux distro, Alpine introduces Wayback, Fedora drops plans to stop i686 support, AlmaLinux builds EPEL repository for older CPUs, Ubuntu dropping existing RISC-V device support, Rhino partners with UBports, PCLinuxOS recovering from website outage |
| • Issue 1128 (2025-06-30): AxOS 25.06, AlmaLinux OS 10.0, transferring Flaptak bundles to off-line computers, Ubuntu to boost Intel graphics performance, Fedora considers dropping i686 packages, SDesk switches from SELinux to AppArmor |
| • Issue 1127 (2025-06-23): LastOSLinux 2025-05-25, most unique Linux distro, Haiku stabilises, KDE publishes Plasma 6.4, Arch splits Plasma packages, Slackware infrastructure migrating |
| • Issue 1126 (2025-06-16): SDesk 2025.05.06, renewed interest in Ubuntu Touch, a BASIC device running NetBSD, Ubuntu dropping X11 GNOME session, GNOME increases dependency on systemd, Google holding back Pixel source code, Nitrux changing its desktop, EFF turns 35 |
| • Issue 1125 (2025-06-09): RHEL 10, distributions likely to survive a decade, Murena partners with more hardware makers, GNOME tests its own distro on real hardware, Redox ports GTK and X11, Mint provides fingerprint authentication |
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