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1 • log viewing (by DaveW on 2017-07-24 00:42:28 GMT from United States) |
Mine is a single user machine, so normally the only time I need to check logs is when something has gone wrong. Then it's manual access to the logs. For me it is also quite rare.
2 • logging (by anon de on 2017-07-24 00:59:57 GMT from United States)
I have all system logging disabled and thus cannot view any logs.
3 • System Logs (by rdaniels on 2017-07-24 01:09:11 GMT from United States)
I also only check logs when something has gone wrong and I need to dig into why. This is uncommon enough I never even thought to look into anything fancier than dmesg and such.
4 • Annoyed by redundant application menu entries (by Andre on 2017-07-24 01:35:54 GMT from Canada)
Blame the Clementine developers for the program's menu entry being "Clementine (Clementine Music Player)". You can copy /usr/share/applications/clementine.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications/ and edit the GenericName if you want to override the default with something more sane. This works for other programs too, by the way.
5 • Calculate Linux. (by Myst on 2017-07-24 01:40:32 GMT from Australia)
I'm not a Techie, so most things I learn about PC's is from trial & error, then searching the net for solutions or contacting IRC channels for support. I guess most of us are like that.. I've been distro hopping for a number of years after starting with Ubuntu/Debian distributions. Up to recently I was hooked on Arch based distributions. About 4 months my frustration with SystemD really hit a nerve, I started experimenting with No-SystemD derivatives, Like Alpine, Void, Manjaro-OpenRc and TrueOS & OpenBsd. The more I looked these alternatives I noticed improvement in stability of the OS, especially in & around the boot sequence. I really do like BSD especially, TrueOs, unfortunately in BSD there are number packages that I use daily that are not available in binary for BSD, and I stated above due to my lack of technical skills it's often to hard for me to compile from source.
Recently I have testing Gentoo based Linux, I've tested Calculate, Funtoo & a new distro RedCore. Of these, I found Redcore a great distro for Newbies to Gentoo. Offering a unique way to a familiarise them selves to PKG Build. It offers,the ability to switch modes. Binary mode Redcore's default mode, that is to install Pkgs from their binaries. a "mixed mode" the use of a combination of binaries & building from source. Thirdly a source mode. It's so easy to switch with " vasile" command. As much as liked Caclulate-Linux, it lacks what Redcore has to offer. I like Funtoo, my skill set is not quite there yet, to be able to comfortably resolve & find solutions.
So those looking at Gentoo, give due consideration to RedCore! I think you will be surprised with what you find. It's still new & evolving, so contact the team on their Facebook page or IRC & share your suggestions. I'm sure you will hear a lot more of this distributions in the coming months.
6 • Pardus with PISI (by Amand on 2017-07-24 02:10:13 GMT from Malaysia)
While two Pardus swith over to Debian, another Pardus continue what the real Pardus Linux left.
7 • Unlogging ISOs How To (by Arch Watcher 402563 on 2017-07-24 02:29:31 GMT from United States)
"we can choose whether we want to use Pulse Audio or ALSA for sound"
+1 but make the choice JACK vs ALSA, with Pulse as an add-on option (which it is, literally layered atop ALSA)
"Do you use them to keep an eye on the system, or are your log files just cluttering up the disk?"
The latter. Logs are for sysadmins with multiuser workstations or multiclient servers. One-man desktop PCs don't need them save for debugging purposes. And PS someone should invent a way to encrypt them as they are made.
I'd like to know how logs can be completely disabled. The systemdeath documents don't say in so many words. I found the following possibly redudant, or possibly lacking, or possibly both, kernel command line paramters.
It's not possible to tweak live ISO images with conf files. It must be done at boot time and that's the cleanest way for any system anyhow.
8 • About Starlab, Kali OS (by BeGo on 2017-07-24 02:58:03 GMT from Indonesia)
Who, or what market segment, shall pick Kali Linux as Their 1st OS of Choice? :)
9 • system logs and sudo (by Trihexagonal on 2017-07-24 03:04:35 GMT from United States)
I check my logs once or twice a week. I use su instead of sudo, am the only one with physical access to my machines, keep a close eye on and use them every day so I know if something has gone wrong.
If there is any question in my mind of having been compromised or something doesn't look right I insert my boot media, reboot and rebuild the system from scratch.
10 • Debian 9.1 so soon ? (by Frederic Bezies on 2017-07-24 06:14:46 GMT from France)
Am I the only one to think that Debian 9.0 was released a little to early after full freeze back in february 2017?
This first point release seems to "confirm" spending one or two more months in full freeze would have been a good idea.
Anyway, this is a good news for people who were waiting for Debian 9.1 to migrate to it.
11 • Debian 9.1 so soon ? More infos! (by Frederic Bezies on 2017-07-24 06:16:11 GMT from France)
Forgot to add this headline : https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170722
It is about Debian 9.1.
12 • My experience with latest Archbang distribution (by Srinivasprasad on 2017-07-24 08:57:28 GMT from India)
yesterday I tried Archbang distribution (latest) on my optiplex 330. The live session booted fine very fast.
But when I tried to install the same on my computer, i found that installer is missing in right click context menu.
After googling i found that I can use Sudo abinstall. I tried the same but this time an error came at the 8th step i.e boot loader installation, thereafter even several attempts it was not successful though I installed the grub manually.
it is necessary that the developer shall test the distro before uploading
13 • Calculate (by Dave Postles on 2017-07-24 09:58:43 GMT from United Kingdom)
I abandoned it (again) after trying in vain to get LibreOffice Base working.
14 • System Logs (by jymm on 2017-07-24 10:16:02 GMT from United States)
I am the only one that uses my Linux computers, so I do not check system logs.
15 • Logging (by Brenton Horne on 2017-07-24 11:02:40 GMT from Australia)
I only check at logs when an error occurs that I notice. For example, I check out logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if Xorg fails to launch.
16 • Kali Linux (by Jesse on 2017-07-24 11:57:12 GMT from Canada)
@8: "Who, or what market segment, shall pick Kali Linux as Their 1st OS of Choice? "
People who watch TV and movies. Over the past year or so a lot of newcomers have been showing up on Linux forums, asking for tips on using and installing Kali Linux. The distro has shown up in some TV shows (and I think a movie) and people interested in learning Linux (or hacking skills) pick it as their first Linux distro. It's probably one of the most popular "first Linux distro" projects available right now.
17 • Sound Choices (by OhioJoe on 2017-07-24 13:43:07 GMT from United States)
I wish they gave you an option for the volume control. I like the old simple up and down style. I don't need a big clunky confusing style, with side to side slider and a built in media player. On some distros a program called "Volti" may help you return to the simple control.
18 • @ 4 annoyed...? (by kaczor on 2017-07-24 14:46:49 GMT from United States)
" Blame the Clementine developers for the program's menu entry..."
You don't blame the developers, if you use their app, you say thank you for its given to you free.
19 • archbang @12 (by Dave on 2017-07-24 15:19:07 GMT from United States)
You did not verify the root partition is bootable in cfdisk. Just select the root partition, select bootable, write to disk and exit. No need to reinstall, just reboot. Enjoy!
20 • PinguyOS (by OstroL on 2017-07-24 15:48:32 GMT from Poland)
For quite sometime PinguyOS website had been off. Sometime ago, the PinguyOS creator had said he might take off the distro. Looks like it had happened. No one can do things without getting paid. A pity!
21 • @18: kaczor (by dragonmouth on 2017-07-24 18:43:27 GMT from United States)
You have it backwards, kaczor. The developers should thank the user for alpha and beta testing their half-baked software. Any suggestions for improvement should be received in the spirit they are given and thoughtfully considered. If it wasn't for the users, the developers would have no jobs. There would be nobody to try their clever software. BTW - I spent over 30 years as a software developer.
22 • @21 (by kaczor on 2017-07-24 20:28:18 GMT from United States)
1) What do you know about Pinguy OS and its developer?
2) "BTW - I spent over 30 years as a software developer."
Are you saying you've wasted 30 years of your life, creating alpha and beta software?
23 • @#4, and #18, and #21 (by sayyour on 2017-07-24 20:40:28 GMT from United States)
You don't Blame anyone. you help fix it or make it better so it works and then SHARE that with the world ( open source), Isn't that the whole idea? Even if that means asking the Original developer to look at his code again to see why it's not working.and any of the changes or additions along the way, those developers as well.. Just my belief , thats all. in regards to comments #4, #18, and #21
Or maybe I am wrong?
24 • mistake (by sayyour on 2017-07-24 21:12:31 GMT from United States)
"""Even if that means asking the Original developer to look at his code again to see why it's not working""".
I should have used a more appropriate word like ""their"", and not "his", sorry to All the women coders(developers) out there.
25 • easy @ comment #4 (by in my opinion on 2017-07-24 21:31:14 GMT from United States)
or just right click the icon in menu, and edit name in the applications properties..+ less typing
26 • Calculate Linux (by BillC on 2017-07-25 01:57:24 GMT from Australia)
Thanks for the Calculate Linux review. I have been using Calculate for over a year as my daily driver and I really enjoy it - everything works (well, almost) and I am learning Gentoo system admin. The 2-3 minor issues I have had have all been solved in the Calculate Forum - small and friendly. As you mentioned the English forum is small, but I have always received help within a day or two, usually from one of the developers.
Calculate is essentially Gentoo and you have access to all the Gentoo packages - just as extensive as what is available in Arch or Debian.
I liked the reviewer's examples of setting USE flags - but remember that with Calculate if you accept the defaults you do not need to compile packages, saving the sometimes long compile times. That is how I started using Calculate, but as I get more confident I have started to customise my packages. A slippery slope to becoming a Gentoo user!
It is also worth noting that the Calculate team try to make all the desktops look similar so that you could use the XFCE version on an older machine and it still looks similar to the KDE version. Personally I use the LXQT version :)
27 • i wish (by menu on 2017-07-25 02:52:22 GMT from United States)
@25 (and others)
Which menu, which desktop environment, supports in-place editing of menu entries via right-click?
28 • PiSi Linux is, also, a renegade PARDUS project ... (by Nemrut on 2017-07-25 04:44:23 GMT from Canada)
i truly appreciated and deeply enjoyed reading the DW's wonderful news about Pardus come back .... However, I'm very surprized that DW failed to mention the fact that another Turkish distro called PiSi Linux is also an offspring of the original Pardus project
Interestingly, the PiSi Linux DistroWatch page states this fact as follows:
"Pisi Linux is a GNU/Linux distribution based on the old Pardus Linux with its famous PiSi package management system..."
(And by the way, Pardus is named after a Turkish Anatolian panther species, while "pisi" means "kitten" or "kitty" in Turkish).
But regardless, i truly appreciate and enjoy reading such great news stories often here on DW pages !
29 • Famous PiSi package management system... (by OstroL on 2017-07-25 05:59:42 GMT from Poland)
Solus is another distro using (its) famous PiSi package management system.
30 • redundant menu entries (by jymm on 2017-07-25 11:07:13 GMT from United States)
I edit my menu entries all the time, Like changing Kpat to Solitaire and Firefox Web Browser to just Firefox. Just be careful about Preferred applications, change the name and the default program setting cannot find them.
What drives me even crazier are applications like Krita, which I love and use, that make multiple entries in multiple categories.
I use the Mate desktop and Alacarte menu editor.
31 • @12 Archbang (by Jake on 2017-07-25 14:58:25 GMT from United States)
I've used Archbang since they offered an OpenRC version. I like having an installer since normal Arch installs require me to keep the manual handy and they can't be done offline. Double-check what @19 mentioned if you haven't already. I also had trouble with the bootloader but that was because my laptop only supported UEFI booting, and I needed to follow some special instructions for my hardware. Archbang is a great distro for me to start off in Arch land. I hope mrgreen continues to work on it, especially the OpenRC version.
32 • @8, @16 Kali (by Sting on 2017-07-25 15:04:03 GMT from United States)
I use Kali at work in a VM for penetration testing. It is nice to have several tools pre-installed and ready to go. Otherwise, it's basically Debian. If I were a full-time security researcher, I might have it as my daily on a laptop for doing my job. @8, I once wondered the same thing until I actually started doing a little work in the field.
33 • Archbang (by lenn on 2017-07-25 15:06:06 GMT from Canada)
Does anyone remember who started Archbang?
34 • The end of RemixOS (by Sebastien on 2017-07-25 15:21:27 GMT from France)
I can't believe Jide drops all this work around RemixOS ! I was particulary looking foward to try RemixOS for mobile which was very appealing to me: your phone and your computer in one same device. The ultimate convergence goal was reached ! I was not using RemixOS currently but I was about to (as soon as the mobile version would came out I guess). For me it was the most inovative project for user experience around so far. Really sad.
35 • OpenBSD (by DRLong on 2017-07-26 00:29:18 GMT from United States)
I could go on and on about how great OpenBSD 6.1 is, and I will. Now with syspatch, doas, and installurl it just could not be any easier. I know some of these features are not unique to 6.1 but keeping your system up to date is as easy as it gets.
Default install takes less than 5 min and then you have a fully secure, down right cool operating system. Albeit not the most user friendly unless you like the terminal, and I do.
Most of the best tilling wms are available e.g DWN, I3, AWESOME, fvwm to name a few. Hardware support is getting better and better and wireless could not be any easier. Simple .conf file and your online in minuets.
Give it a try....
36 • OpenBSD (by Trihexagonal on 2017-07-26 02:27:14 GMT from United States)
@35 You are correct, Sir! With "only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time" and the forthcoming introduction of KARL, or Kernel Address Randomized Link, which works by relinking internal kernel files in a random order so that it generates a unique kernel binary blob at install, upgrade, and boot time, OpenBSD is renown as a secure OS.
The build process is a breeze, and while I use ports exclusively with FreeBSD I do use the pkg system with OpenBSD, allowing me to have the base system and all my standard programs build in no time at all before ever invoking X.
Like DRLong said, give it a try.
Typed on my OpenBSD 6.1 box.
37 • Calculate Linux (by Winchester on 2017-07-26 10:19:29 GMT from United States)
Calculate Linux is great just as long as you DON'T go with the "Cinnamon" version. I installed that one first and it would freeze-up at (somewhat) random. File Manager operations via "Nemo" resulted in sluggish performance and freezes.
The Cinnamon desktop worked great on the same hardware under Porteus , Manjaro , Antergos , and Korora so,I am unsure what the exact problem was. I tried enabling and disabling composite effects. It did not matter.
So,I switched to the MATE desktop plus LXDE as another option and everything is running very smoothly. The only problem is that upon using "Calculate Update" the program prompts to remove all LXDE related packages because the profile of the system is "Calculate Linux Desktop MATE".
The solution there is to "emerge --no replace" all of the packages that I want to keep which are not part of the profile. I did it once already and now since upgrading from 17.1 to 17.6 , I have to go back and do it again because I selected to use a new configuration file during that update.
Also,the system keeps setting a bootloader default timeout of 2 seconds which I kept changing to 8 seconds only to have updates change it back to 2 seconds multiple times. So I took it (the GRUB) out of my MBR eventually because I have other bootloaders via other distributions on other HDD partitions.
Overall though,Calculate (with Mate or LXDE) is one of the very best distributions I have ever tried.
Post # 13 : Calculate Linux Desktop MATE comes with Libre Office Base pre-installed. I don't know if that's what you meant. The database software is not a program that I have actually tried to use as of yet. If it's installed and launches (which it does) ,I don't know why that it would work any differently than it does on any other distribution / operating system.
38 • @29 - Thank you for the Pardus > PiSi > Solus info ... (by Nemrut on 2017-07-26 11:53:10 GMT from Canada)
@29 - Really hank you pal.
Happy to learn that Solus -- one of my favorite distro -- is also using PiSi .....
Meanwhile, you are welcome to visit this Polish-Ottoman village (Polonezköy, or Adampol) on Istanbul's shores to mingle with local Linux geeks to talk about coding, etc, while enjoying the annual Vişne Festival and much more ......
(P.S. ensure to check the Polonezköy's homepage listed at the end of the Wikipedia's entry for more details)
39 • Solus packager (by Kragle von Schnitzelbank on 2017-07-26 15:42:01 GMT from United States)
Solus inherited/adapted/forked PiSi; the Solus packager is eopkg. They are not 'compatible'.
40 • Old days (by Mac on 2017-07-26 21:05:00 GMT from United States)
I miss the good old days of mepis and aptosid !!!
41 • PCLOS (by johnny on 2017-07-27 01:44:27 GMT from United States)
@ comment #25
I can do that using PCLOS KDE5, KDE4 but they dont support KDE4 anymore. Out of all the distro's i have used ONLY PCLOS has worked right out of the box every time. It is the Distro that I always return to, because it is easy, and it works.
42 • a little clarifaction about the new, or revenant Pardus (by Szulejmán on 2017-07-27 04:19:53 GMT from Canada)
As DistroWatch News current edition mentioned, "the original Pardus distribution came out of retirement and published a new release, Pardus 17.0. Around the same time the community group released a new version called Pardus Topluluk 4.0".
However, judging from some of the above-posted Pardus related comments, there seems to be a confusion, which, perhaps, happened because DistroWatch News neglected to mention the fact that both new [Pardus] distributions were now based on Debian, as opposed to being developed from scratch ..., hence, being Independent distros like they used to be ...
And this fact alone leaves the PiSi Linux project (which is still actively based on the old Pardus) to be the only distro which is still being developed independently where the original Pardus left off, as correctly mentioned by the commentator @6, and similarly stated here on http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=pisi
Meanwhile, commentator @39 PiSi-Solus realeted clairifaction is appreciated.
43 • Old days (by zcatav on 2017-07-27 14:28:31 GMT from Turkey)
@40 • Old days - by Mac
What about MX linux and Siduction?
44 • Calculate Linux: Base (by Dave Postles on 2017-07-27 15:39:00 GMT from United Kingdom)
@37 Yes, Base is installed and it launches, but then try creating and CONNECTING a new database. I've tried everything I can think of to connect the jre, but still it will not connect a new database (nor open an existing one). I've tried the Calculate fora, but the answers there just don't seem to work. I've not had this issue with any other distro.
45 • Logging (by Jake on 2017-07-27 16:59:40 GMT from United States)
I mount /var/log as tmpfs. If I care, I'll check the log while the system is active, but I don't care after a restart what happened before. In the rare case where I can't boot and actually need to see what's wrong (I don't recall ever having this problem with Mint; this is truly rare since it means I can't get a shell), then I can run a live CD, remove the tmpfs mount, then boot again. I can use my live CD to analyze the logs, which is what I'd have to do anyway for failed boots. If the problem is intermittent, I just leave the normal mount permanent, maybe taking the directory off of my SSD and onto a regular HDD (the main reason for using a tmpfs).
46 • Pisi Linux (by claudecat on 2017-07-27 18:50:44 GMT from United States)
As someone that really liked the old Pardus, I decided to give Pisi a try. It's not bad! Pretty much Pardus with most of its unique features and a nice new Plasma 5 look and feel. Not without some minor issues, and it lacks a working gui tool for package management (a big issue), but Pisi could be a player again with some more polish and publicity.
I was sad when I learned that the future of Pardus, official or not, was to be based on Debian. It's always nice to see new paradigms emerge, and Pisi continues to keep the original (in all senses of the word) Pardus spirit alive.
47 • of Pardus, the PiSi Linux and still-independently-developed distros like Solus . (by Szulejmán on 2017-07-28 12:25:59 GMT from Canada)
@46 -- i agree with you, as it's, indeed, a pity that Pardus is now based on Debian ..., hence, another promising paradigm lost ...
But on the other hand, the good news is that there still are few Independent-based distros actively being developed out there, such as Solus, which is a truly independtly developed sublime quality and polished distro, and on top of that it's using Pardus-created avante garde PiSi package manager ...., as pointed out by @29 and @39 ...
Also, you're truly right that PiSi Linux is as great as the old Pardus. So, let's hope that PiSi Linux continues to be developed from scratch ....
48 • Starlabs and Netrunner (by Corentin on 2017-07-29 22:25:44 GMT from France)
It is great to see Linux computers but their prices are prohibitive, I find...
> " While it would have been possible to simply update the previous system due to its inherent rolling nature, we recommend a fresh install."
A fresh install for Manjaro, for a rolling distro? No need with Arch or Manjaro so why with Netrunner "Rolling" (which is based on Manjaro)? If this is really necessary, it's just stupid.
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|• Issue 788 (2018-11-05): Clu Linux Live 6.0, examining RAM consumpion, finding support for older CPUs, more Steam support for running Windows games on Linux, update from Solus team|
|• Issue 787 (2018-10-29): Lubuntu 18.10, limiting application access to specific users, Haiku hardware compatibility list, IBM purchasing Red Hat|
|• Issue 786 (2018-10-22): elementary OS 5.0, why init keeps running, DragonFly BSD enables virtual machine memory resizing, KDE neon plans to drop older base|
|• Issue 785 (2018-10-15): Reborn OS 2018.09, Nitrux 1.0.15, swapping hard drives between computers, feren OS tries KDE spin, power savings coming to Linux|
|• Issue 784 (2018-10-08): Hamara 2.1, improving manual pages, UBports gets VoIP app, Fedora testing power saving feature|
|• Issue 783 (2018-10-01): Quirky 8.6, setting up dual booting with Ubuntu and FreeBSD, Lubuntu switching to LXQt, Mint works on performance improvements|
|• Issue 782 (2018-09-24): Bodhi Linux 5.0.0, Elive 3.0.0, Solus publishes ISO refresh, UBports invites feedback, Linux Torvalds plans temporary vacation|
|• Issue 781 (2018-09-17): Linux Mint 3 "Debian Edition", file systems for SSDs, MX makes installing Flatpaks easier, Arch team answers questions, Mageia reaches EOL|
|• Issue 780 (2018-09-10): Netrunner 2018.08 Rolling, Fedora improves language support, how to customize Kali Linux, finding the right video drivers|
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Volumio (formerly RaspyFi) is a Debian-based distribution originally made for the Raspberry Pi single-board computer, but later expanded to other embedded devices, including CuBox, BeagleBone Black and UDOO. It aims to fully integrate Music Player Daemon, an open-source music player server, into the current Debian releases and to optimise it for Audiophile-quality music playback. Volumio also makes it simple to play music library directly from a USB storage device or from any network-attached storage and it also enables users to listen to web-based radio stations from Spotify, Last.fm and SoundCloud. Starting in October 2014 the project no longer provided a complete Linux distribution; instead it develops Volumio as a music player application only which it makes available for various platforms. The Volumio distribution resumed development in 2016 and is available for x86 computers as well as several ARM devices.