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1 • Bodhi Linux (by morgan cox on 2012-09-17 09:28:16 GMT from United Kingdom) |
E17 is the best desktop for low powered netbooks which have a lack of screen real estate...
When you, for example right click and a sub menu opens, if it is at the edge of the screen it pushes the menu back into the screen (so it has room to open the sub menu) - why don't ALL desktops do that ?
It also uses bugger all resources - on my Samsung N150 it's really fast - unlike Ubuntu with Bodhi Linux full screen flash video works fine.
Also Terminology puts all other terminal emulators to shame - it's like the compiz of terminals, almost like its from a different decade - when I go back to KDE the terminal seems boring.
2 • Time for Boddhi again (by AliasMarlowe on 2012-09-17 09:47:52 GMT from Europe)
I tried Boddhi a few years back, and liked it, but not enough to replace Xubuntu on the low spec laptop. Maybe it's time to try it again.
Incidentally, I'll be trying it out on a 1.6GHz Pentium M, which should be slower than the dual-core Atom Jesse used. This old laptop does not lack for screen space, however, having a 1920x1200 LCD.
3 • Update Notfications (by TobiSGD on 2012-09-17 09:58:58 GMT from Germany)
"On distributions which do not include the apt-check script it is still possible to get notification of available upgrades. On distributions which include the apt-get command run the following line:
apt-get -s upgrade | tail -n 1
You should see a message which says something like:
3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded."
Without running "apt-get update" before this command it will not tell you how many updates there really are, but only how many updates they were the last time you updated the package database and not updated the system.
Running apt-get update in .bashrc can seriously slow down the login (depending on the number of repositories and your Internet connection), so I wouldn't recommend that.
4 • Checking for updates (by Jesse on 2012-09-17 10:38:08 GMT from Canada)
>> "Without running "apt-get update" before this command it will not tell you how many updates there really are, but only how many updates they were the last time you updated the package database and not updated the system."
That is true, but most modern distributions automatically refresh the package database on a regular basis. On most distros it is not necessary to manually update the package database prior to running the check.
5 • Linux to OS X (by joe f. on 2012-09-17 10:54:08 GMT from United States)
I came from OS X to Linux 9 years ago, and two years ago I had to take over the MacBook Pro I'd tried to move my wife to. I actually gave OS X a go, then dual-booted, then wiped the Mac partition. Eventually, rebuilt a desktop machine and passed the laptop onto the daughter. It's a very nice OS, I use it at work on occasion, and it's better than Windows. But I can't really take Apple's "you'll takes what you gets and you'll like it" attitude. Customization of the OS is hard -- when it's possible -- and the boxes don't offer much either. For an iPad -- I have one at work -- it's fine. For my main machine...no thanks.
6 • Bodhi cd size (by bill on 2012-09-17 11:04:49 GMT from Canada)
Bodhi is a great distro and desktop.
Since it is light weight, I think they should use some of the spare space on a cd for more wireless drivers.The iso only is 450mb or so. people will be wanting to install this on old laptops and netbooks so wireless drivers are important.
7 • Bodhi (by meanpt on 2012-09-17 12:29:50 GMT from Portugal)
Bodhi is the distro every laptop owner should carry with (appologies thouht here as I don't own a desktop). It fits in a mainstream SD card and still manages to be fast, without compromising in usability and functionality. Bodhi is geting better, release after release, and as an added bonus for those with touch screens, it can even provide a more functional touch interface which is lights ahead of any other desktop distro. Good work, bodhi team!
8 • Nice Surprise (by Bob on 2012-09-17 12:32:21 GMT from Austria)
Two months ago I've read a post of an OpenSuse developer complaining about the overwhelming task to remove bugs from the 12.2 development. This made me suspicious and I was thinking of keeping the old 12.1 version or switching to something else. But after some positive feedback I have decided to sacrifice a partition and installed the 64-bit KDE variant of OpensSuse 12.2. To my surprise this one is the most stable version so far on my hardware. So I just repeat what some guys already have stated: 12.2 might be the best OpenSuse achievement to date. This time it's a keeper, but I still haven't completely forgotten the troubles encountered with previous versions ;-)
9 • Linux to OSX (by Sam on 2012-09-17 12:38:14 GMT from United States)
Given my job I have bifurcated work needs - writing and office productivity software AND statistical, geospatial, and basic scientific computing. For years beginning with SuSE 8 (yeah, no "open" on the front of it back in the old days) I was diehard Linux-only on my laptop and desktop. Linux has been great for running R, GRASS, even QGIS (at first for light GIS work, but with that project's growing community of plug-in developers, I'm using GRASS slightly less these days).
Unfortunately, the Gnome 3/Unity revolution threw me off the bus. UI was and is important for my productivity/writing work flow and those UI changes were just too jarring. Now I drag around a Mac and still run Mint 13 MATE on my home desktop (work computer switched from PC to iMac this year).
While I dislike some of the same OSX features mentioned in the article (dragging icons into Applications to install them? ... not sure yet what exactly "Finder" is supposed to be... where's the darn "Start" menu?!?), I find that everything, unlike my Linux experience outside of rock-solid distros like Debian, "Just works." Further, everything works natively with my phone and iPad - so calendar, reminders, document management, flow seamlessly across devices which is quite important for me.
10 • Linux to OSX & Bodhi (by Ken Harbit on 2012-09-17 12:42:36 GMT from United States)
I'll stay with Linux mostly because it's free, I can learn from it by looking at the code, the Linux desktops work for me because there are many and all are changeable at the code level (if it's needed), and I don't need the polish of OSX.
I loved Bodhi but I love Mint better. I'm running the E17 desktop on Mint right now, it's great. I like Mint because the Gui's make things easy and the command line is there when needed...And I can run Enlightenment desktop.
11 • @9 Linux to OSX (by vw72 on 2012-09-17 12:51:37 GMT from United States)
Don't get too comfortable with OSX. With Apple's intention of unifying all of their hardware platforms under iOS, you soon will be in the same quandary as Gnome 3/Unity. The difference being is that Apple has a huge fan base and will be praised for revolutionizing the desktop.
12 • pcmanfm auto-mount (by Comm_01 on 2012-09-17 15:14:59 GMT from Brazil)
Maybe by checking the automatic mount you broke this feature (can't say, as I don't use Bodhi), but if pcmanfm is running as a daemon (auto-start with 'pcmanfm -d') it will pop-up a dialogue asking what to do with the inserted media.
13 • Spit and Polish of Linux Distros (by Glenn Condrey on 2012-09-17 15:31:04 GMT from United States)
I agree with the statement that as of late, the spit and polish of linux distros has been lacking lately.
I cut my teeth on linux with Xandros Linux, starting with 2.0, 3.0, and finally 4.5.
Since Xandros gave up publishing desktop linux distributions, I have never found another operating system that had as much spit, polish and friendly feel (while also appealing to even the most hardened linux veteran) that Xandros had.
14 • Spit and Polish.. @13 (by Jordan on 2012-09-17 15:41:17 GMT from United States)
You'll like Zorin. ;)
15 • Zorin (by Glenn Condrey on 2012-09-17 15:48:54 GMT from United States)
Tried it...decent...but I guess I got picky with Xandros.
If someone every buys the code for the old Xandros File Manager (very much like the modern Windows Explorer) and is able to incorporate it into a modern linux distro....they'll be billionaires.
16 • Xandros.. picky folks.. (by Jordan on 2012-09-17 16:02:46 GMT from United States)
I had Xandros and was quite liking it as a transistion from Windows. Then the commercial side came out and controversy raged for a bit. I recall getting a bit confused but did find it interesting that the linux community was aghast at that change by Xandros, in a similar vein as SuSe/Novell I guess.
Meanwhile I remain confused because on the one hand I want to support non-Windows developers, but on the other hand commercial distros seem ... well, seem bad for some reason?
17 • Hanthana Linux (by bob on 2012-09-17 16:24:23 GMT from Thailand)
I just downloaded Hanthana Linux for the first time. I've been trying to download previous versions for several years, but it's always very slow and times out. This time it took over 14 hours but it finally worked. Not sure why it's so difficult to download this distro. Maybe it would help if they offered a Torrent download as an alternative?
18 • My wish for Bodhi: bodhi-desktop metapackage (by Leo on 2012-09-17 20:17:43 GMT from United States)
I am running Bodhi in one computer, of the many i have at home, and really like it. But I am sure I would be trying it in other computers if there was a ppa where you can keep a bodhi-desktop up to date. It would be a different way of running Bodhi, in that you could install it on top of a non-LTS Ubuntu. But I really don't install things from scratch, once I install Linux I keep upgrading fore years, so this would allow me to kick the tires and potentially switch. I know this is in the TODO list, I thought I'd add my +1 :)
19 • Re. 13 / Xandros (by uz64 on 2012-09-17 21:53:21 GMT from United States)
Xandros was basically about as close to a direct Windows rip-off as you could get... even down to the licensing model. It was a rip-off with artificially-imposed limitations; the one I recall the most now was a limit on the speed you could burn a CD-R disc. The way to get rid of these ridiculous limitations and to fully use and take advantage of the hardware you bought in full and own? Give them money.
No, thanks. I could almost understand paying Microsoft money to use their OS (after all, only they produce it--they own it, it's theirs, and that's not going to change), but come on... paying a company to use what is just their own vision of a Linux distribution? Donating to open source projects and Linux distributions that you like is good, but paying some company to be able to use your hardware and the free software they have bundled and packaged together is just insane.
I would hardly call that "friendly"--in any sense--toward anyone.
20 • Linux to OSX (by dragonmouth on 2012-09-17 21:56:58 GMT from United States)
I switched from Windows to Linux because of Redmond's arrogant "we know better than you what you need" attitude. I am not about to switch to Fruitco's "you WILL like what we give you" garbage.
21 • Bodhi (by Bill on 2012-09-17 22:10:12 GMT from United States)
I really like Bodhi alot (if they just didn't have those d$^&&%d penguins flying around! I also really like MacPup (which also uses E17). One thing that all distros could learn from Puppy is to immediately pop up a short set up box after the system boots the first time (unless such things are previously handled pre-boot). The first box allows you to set your time zone and keyboard, the second is the set up for networking. I hate trying a new distro and having to search all over the place to get online. Let's face it the Net is your user's manual and you need to that get started!
22 • Flash on Bodhi (by Budhi on 2012-09-17 22:12:28 GMT from United States)
Loved, absolutely loved Bodhi! BUT, after trying 1.4 and 2.01, could never get flash to work. Youtube was hit and miss....mostly miss. The Bodhi forum is a friendly place and Jeff is omnipresent on it, but no one could help with my flash problem. YMMV.
23 • Re. 15 / Xandros File Manager (by uz64 on 2012-09-17 22:14:36 GMT from United States)
That Xandros file manager you're talking about... I believe that was nothing more than a modification of Konqueror. It was a rip-off/clone of Windows Explorer, but ironically they didn't even fully develop it; they just modified the existing KDE file manager. IMO, Thunar and Dolphin are much better. Nautilus is even pretty decent. And there are so many file managers for Linux, if you don't like those there are countless others of all different styles.
CLI file managers: Midnight Commander, ytree, UnixTree
Desktop environments: Konqueror (KDE), Dolphin (KDE), , Nautilus (GNOME), Thunar (Xfce), PCManFM (LXDE)
Other GUI file managers: PCManFM-Mod, SpaceFM
Two-pane file managers: emelfm2, GNOME Commander, Krusader
And a special mention: Xfe, or X File Explorer. Fast, lightweight, and if you like Windows Explorer, you'd probably like this. Lots of features, too; you can use it like a Windows Explorer clone or set it to two panes. Only problem: It's not one of the big ones, so you may not be able to find packages of it in some Linux distros.
24 • @2,@23 (by howdy on 2012-09-17 23:35:46 GMT from United States)
@2: " slower than the dual-core Atom Jesse used" - You mean Robert.
@23: Programs like mc are *console* applications, not "command line." For command *line* file management, please see rm, mv, cp, ln, chown, chmod, et al. That's not merely a matter of semantics, it's at the heart of the definition of command line. And if you try to wiggle and say that mc is launched via command line, I'll remind you I can launch any graphical file manager the same way.
25 • Bodhi performance (by Joe P on 2012-09-18 00:09:22 GMT from United States)
I wonder how fast Bodhi would seem with a few needed KDE programs (like K3B and Kgpg) and a few needed Gnome programs added. Maybe it only seems fast because it is missing so much that will need to be added.
I'll probably try it on a flash disk and tweak it to use my RAM.
26 • The MS 'taint' of partnership (more like a pact!) (by Anon on 2012-09-18 02:04:38 GMT from Germany)
"Xandros Desktop was based on Corel Linux, a Debian-based distribution which was acquired along with the development team behind the product from Corel Corporation in August 2001 after Corel decided to sell the Linux distribution market"
Following the Microsoft 'pact', Corel Linux eventually died, despite their claims on continuing it. It was eventually spun anew as Xandros. At the time, Corel Linux was easier to install and use than any other Linux distro - suprised Microsoft was eager to become a 'partner?' Corel was also to continue funding the WINE project, but that funding eventually dried up.
Various members of Corel were excited to work with Microsoft, at least one referenced bringing .NET to Linux, and how they would continue on with Corel Linux and helping WINE.
I'm surprised with Microsoft's involvement with Novell, OpenSUSE hasn't ceased development.
Visit Corel's site today, since the several years of MS partership, how many Linux products do they offer?
Microsoft Buys into Corel
Corel Sells Out To Microsoft
Corel Shuts Down Open Source Development Site
"They're still bleeding money, and are only alive because it was worth Microsoft $135M to get them out of producing Linux "
Interview: Corel's Linux VP on the Microsoft deal (The death knell for Corel Linux, despite claims to the contrary)
(Corel Linux dies, reborn as Xandros, but MS now wants to extend 'Patent Protection')
Microsoft Gives Xandros Users Patent Protection
27 • Reply to 25: Bodhi performance (by Robert Storey on 2012-09-18 02:12:22 GMT from Taiwan)
Hi Joe P. Just want to let you know that I did install a bunch of KDE programs, including K3B (but not Kgpg) on my test machine. I didn't suffer any performance hit from doing that.
28 • Bodhi OK on REALLY Slow PC (by RO on 2012-09-18 03:09:28 GMT from United States)
Like a Fujitsu Lifebook P1120 with 800Mhz Transmeta Crusoe, which feels more like about 300-400 Mhz Intel Pentium, and with 240 MB RAM. I have 2.0.x Bodhi on it, and it is "passable" - about like some slower $99 Android tablets for a "modern" comparison. At least it does the E17 windowing and has a keyboard and touchscreen (resistive, so not good for much more than button tap/mouse click type actions, and not near the edges of the screen due to lack of calibration utility). I do like the trackpoint, being a Thinkpad veteran.
Looking forward to see how 2.1.x does on it.
29 • Bodhi and Snowlinux E17 RC (by Paolo on 2012-09-18 06:20:47 GMT from Italy)
I have installed Bodhi 2.1.0 and I think is a very good distro ... but I also have try the live cd
of Snowlinux E17 Crystal RC, based on Debian Testing.
Snowlinux E17 is simply amazing,awesome and very light, like Bodhi.
Probably today I install on my Dell Latitude D630 near Bodhi and #! (my main distro)
I think this version of Snowlinux can be one of the next argument on DWW
30 • Re: displaying update notifications, Ubuntu vs. Debian (by eco2geek on 2012-09-18 06:58:48 GMT from United States)
Debian's repos also contain the "update-notifier-common" package, which is the package that contains the "apt-check" script.
What it doesn't seem to have is the (rather complicated looking) arrangement Ubuntu uses to display it at the command line at login time. For a description of that process, see:
31 • Bodhi can use the Lubuntu for some Chromium stuff (by ChiJoan on 2012-09-18 07:44:11 GMT from United States)
I have Bodhi installed on an AMD Sempron tower, with KDE programs and added Lubuntu/LXDE as a safety net. It's quite fast, haven't tried the just released version yet, but on reboots I noticed it wipes icons off the desktop that I've added. Even on Firefox that I've added, it took quite a few times of me adding the Bookmark Toolbar, before it would autoload like my tabs.
The first time I tried to log into my Google, Bodhi crashed, when it restarted I loaded LXDE, then I picked Enlightnment next time. Some of the Screensavers I picked, Fireworks for one crashed it, removed those, but the Screensavers don't autoload after a restart.
Joan in Reno
32 • @21 - flying penguins, @25 - KDE apps (by Uncle Slacky on 2012-09-18 10:03:45 GMT from France)
@21 - You *do* know that you can deactivate the penguins, if they're annoying you, don't you?
@25 - My daughter runs a number of KDE apps (particularly Kolourpaint) under Bodhi with no apparent speed penalty, on a 6-year-old Dell Inspiron 1300 laptop with 1.25Gb RAM.
33 • Storming the Gates (by Jordan on 2012-09-18 11:36:53 GMT from United States)
@19 well... ripping off Microsoft is a bad thing? <---- sort of joke. lol, etc..
Anyway, something of a bad taste moved me away from Xandros.. along with the usual need to try just one more distro. ;)
On to "the perfect one" someday. Oy vey, no such thing, ay? Couldn't get Bridge Linux to install (well, it installed, booted to a blinking cursor and that was it). SuSe in here now and it can't remember my wireless network or the time, no matter how I tweak the settings. Blizzards of error messages trying to use Yast. Lots to do here because I do like Suse..
34 • Sabayon Linux 10 fixes X-blink bug on Dell Vostro 360 (by Gavin R. Putland on 2012-09-18 14:08:11 GMT from Australia)
Sabayon becomes the second distribution (that I've noticed) to give a full-HD display on the Dell Vostro 360 without tweaking the boot parameters. But you still need the usual parameters to enable brightness control. Details at http://www.grputland.com/2012/07/ubuntu-1210-alpha-2-fixes-x-blink-bug.html .
35 • Snowlinux E17??? (by davey on 2012-09-18 23:14:37 GMT from United States)
@29 Just looked at the Snowflake site and there's no mention of an E17 version. Where did you see this?
@22 I just installed Bodhi 2.1 and there's a package in the App center that installs Flash and Java. Can't tell you the details because I'm on my main distro right now. You tube works just fine so far.
I really like the feel of Bodhi, but there are some rough edges that may keep it from becoming my 1st love. For example, minimiizing windows just makes them disappear and I can't see any way to get them back. The "shelf", or panel as I think of it, is not as easy to use as in KDE, where you can just drag an app into it from the menu. And even when you do it kosher, sometime the icon doesn't stick.
I'll keep playing with it and see if it's me missing something. The64 bit version on my box seems slicker on my quadcore box than the 32 bit version on my partner's older single core one. If I do figure out how to get around these annoyances I'll be very tempted to make it my primary OS.
36 • Snowlinux E17 (by james c on 2012-09-19 03:48:42 GMT from United States)
37 • @35 e17 (by RollMeAway on 2012-09-19 04:26:07 GMT from United States)
"For example, minimiizing windows just makes them disappear and I can't see any way to get them back."
1. Press the mouse wheel button, to see all running apps.
2. Add to a shelf or even the desktop, a "module": taskbar, ibox, or itask for more standard method.
3. Read the excellent documentation on e17:
Find snow e17 here:
Try a more stable e17 version built with debian stable and alternate gnome2 desktop:
Take the time to learn e17's capabilities. You will be GLAD you did!
38 • ..reasons for distro-hopping.. (by Jordan on 2012-09-19 16:22:32 GMT from United States)
Interesting how things seemingly of a less than critical nature move me (and presumably others) off one distro to try others or even to go back to Windows.
Java. Flash. Panel peculiarities (or in my case incompatibility with my habits). The freaking "cashew" on Plasma (old script and other tricks no longer get rid of it, and the guy who made it gets upset when asked how to get rid of it).
"Perfect distro" for me will be the one that has none of that I suppose.
39 • Anti cashew? (by Jesse on 2012-09-19 16:44:48 GMT from Canada)
>> "Java. Flash. "
I don't think I've ever encountered a distro that had problems with either of these.
>> "The freaking "cashew" on Plasma (old script and other tricks no longer get rid of it"
If you want to hide it, click on the offending cashew, click Add Widget, select Download New and perform a search for "cashew". The two top options that come up both hide the cashew from view.
40 • Cashew .. Jave .. Flash (by Jordan on 2012-09-19 18:54:11 GMT from United States)
Great big thank you for the cashew remedy (hoping it is a remedy, not to doubt your wisdom but there are angst laced forum entries about the issue).
The Java and Flash probs come up at www.pogo.com in the "Monopoly Slots" and "Hog Heaven Slots" games in particular, others as well. Also at Facebook's "Pyramid Solitaire Saga" intermittently. It has to do with outdated versions of java ("icedtea" in some distros).
Now to put my SuSe 12.2 hard drive back in this machine and give the cashew a send-off, hopefully. ;) Thanks again!
41 • Java (by Jesse on 2012-09-19 19:00:31 GMT from Canada)
If your distribution ships with an older version of Java (or a different implementation of Java) you can always update to the latest version of Oracle's implementation from java.com
42 • Py-Cashew etc (by Jordan on 2012-09-19 19:21:48 GMT from United States)
No longer works. The "toolbox" cashew is meant to stay, and the dev who made it will resist efforts to get rid if it or even to make it transparent.
43 • Changing from Linux to Apple (by Peter Besenbruch on 2012-09-20 05:22:46 GMT from United States)
My colleagues are all Apple users. They have Macbook Pros and Airs, along with iPads. Invariably folks try to take notes with the iPad, and quit. The Macbook users hang on longer. Me, I show up with a Linux based netbook. It has the practicality of the Macbook, the size of an iPad, and the price of neither.
Suspend and resume are fast, and wireless networking is reliable.
Recently, I purchased one of the new keyboard wedges. They are basically a keyboard with a motherboard and hard drive inside. They come with Linux installed (Ubuntu Oneiric), and cost $220 at Amazon. A rock solid, reliable machine, I eventually stuck Debian on it (it's what I know).
I moved to Linux over the copy protection issue in Windows XP. I stayed because Linux worked. I have been careful over the years about the equipment I have purchased, so I haven't had the issues that others keep complaining about here. My latest purchase was a "like new," Wacom Intuos 3 tablet for my son's four year old netbook. He gets excellent results when connected to an external monitor, using the GIMP.
I use Linux for photo editing, desktop publishing, spreadsheet work, finances, HTML editing, astronomy, book reading, music listening, and DVD watching. My wife does some of the same things, but in addition logs into work using Citrix. Since it requires Java, which has suffered from security issue after security issue, she does it via a virtual machine on her Linux netbook that also runs Linux. Specifically, it runs Window Maker on Debian. The setup resets to a snapshot after each run.
Linux works. I will not change.
44 • Cashew (by Jesse on 2012-09-20 12:32:12 GMT from Canada)
>> "Py-Cashew etc No longer works. The "toolbox" cashew is meant to stay, and the dev who made it will resist efforts to get rid if it or even to make it transparent."
Sorry, but that is not true. I am running the latest version of KDE and I just installed the py-cashew widget. It still works, making the desktop cashew disappear.
45 • from linux to os x (by Dave on 2012-09-20 13:02:23 GMT from United States)
Personally I have never run a Mac,but the writer's comment about the OS X desktop being so pretty as to make gnome and kde look like "school projects" makes one ask what kind of crap desk top he ran on linux...I have seen both gnome and kde (and your favorite linux desktop here) tricked out to be pure eye candy,simply beautiful.In fact I have seen them tricked out to look like the afore mentioned OS X desktop.....so where Boz may be able to tout certain features of his OS being "better" the beauty of the desk top is not one of them
46 • The Great Cashew Scandal (by Jordan on 2012-09-20 13:38:54 GMT from United States)
"Sorry, but that is not true. I am running the latest versSorry, but that is not true. I am running the latest version of KDE and I just installed the py-cashew widget. It still works, making the desktop cashew disappear.ion of KDE and I just installed the py-cashew widget. It still works, making the desktop cashew disappear."
If it were "not true" I would not have posted my experience, which includes: not being able to get rid of the cashew in SuSe 12.2 KDE, searching for a remedy under Google terms such as, "how to get rid of toolbox cashew," "I hate the kde cashew," etc, downloading and installing the "ihate...." program which did not work, downloading and installing the "py-..." program which did not work.
So, it is true. Perhaps your success has something to do with different distros? I know KDE is KDE, Plasma is Plasma, but .. maybe a difference somewhere?
It seems like a silly thing to debate about, but I will not declare a statement here by another participant as "not true" if it has to do with his or her experience, although I may intone some sort of "try this strategy." ;)
47 • @23 (by SilentSam on 2012-09-20 18:04:44 GMT from Canada)
I worked for Xandros for a few years. Xandros File Manager was written from the ground up, and wasn't based on Konqueror.
48 • Kiwi Linux (by Carl Smuck on 2012-09-20 21:07:51 GMT from United States)
Kiwi LInux works really well on my antiquated IBM Thinkpad T60. Has all the multimedia codecs and is able to give Zorin OS Lite 6.1 a run for its money. Zorin OS 6.1 is fast and is a good distribution I have that one on my T60 as well. Ultimate Edition 3.4 has nice effects but makes my IBM T60 run way too hot and it becomes sluggish and unstable. Bodhi Linux is much more stable now on my old IBM Thinkpad than the older version of it that I tried quite some time ago. In fact Bodhi has never had one single hiccup in my IBM Thinkpad. But the same can also be said of Zorin OS Lite and Kiwi OS 12.05. Kiwi only became a little bit sluggish when I added the cinnamon desktop to it and logged into the cinnamon desktop. Kiwi OS works much better than Linux Mint 13 cinnamon. My IBM Thinkpad T60 cannot run more than a few seconds with LinuxMint 13 Cinnamon before it freezes up. If any others of you out there have an old 2.0 Ghz IBM thinkpad and want to pick a good Linux distro to run on it the winners are the latest version of Bodhi in part because of the CPU scaling utility. By default it makes the CPU run at only 1.0 GHz if it is a 2GHz machine. It then automatically speeds up when put under some load. So the thinkpad stays cool. Zorin OS Lite seems to never strain the CPU and the system stays cool. Same with Kiwi Linux. I never thought of Kiwi as being all that lightweight of a distribution.
49 • VectorLinux wins (by Jordan on 2012-09-21 11:28:11 GMT from United States)
Now for me the whole idea of distro hopping and configuring and tweaking to make things less obtrusive and more comfortable is beginning to settle.. I've always had a VL disc, just about very version, some bought and some downloaded free.
Now the Canadian distro has taken over my Linux life because it's all coming together. VL 64 bit has all the codecs and all the access I need with no efforts other than visual eye candy etc to bring about.
Slackware based: fast, great repos and of course that old traditional feeling that Slackware has to offer. I am thinking that the 14 release of Slack will have me checking it out too.. but the VL scheme is much to my liking.. we'll see. ;)
And now cashew!! :oD
50 • @49 "no cashew" typo (by Jordan on 2012-09-21 11:29:54 GMT from United States)
..not "now cashew." ... ;)
51 • cashew (by Mac on 2012-09-21 11:57:05 GMT from United States)
Thanks Jesse it worked for me. Been trying to get rid of that for 3yrs.
Have fun Mack
52 • Cashew (by Jesse on 2012-09-21 13:12:24 GMT from Canada)
>> "If it were "not true" I would not have posted my experience, which includes: not being able to get rid of the cashew in SuSe 12.2 KDE, "
My apologies, I was a bit skeptical. Last week and this week you've posted vague complaints about Flash and Java not working on websites which, when I visit them, work fine. This week you have been complaining about not being able to get ride of the cashew, and when I posted a solution, you claimed it didn't work on openSUSE 12.2. I happen to be running openSUSE 12.2 at the moment and, well, see for yourself:
Without any error messages, links to bug reports or other posts detailing specific steps as to what you've tried and what went wrong it is hard to help you.
53 • cashew and stuff (by Jordan on 2012-09-21 15:46:03 GMT from United States)
Well no the skepticism is always in the air wrt this stuff.. I'm often looking around forums and seeing long threads going on and on about how this or that remedy works for some and not for others and often with the same exact distro and similar hardware.
The cashew bit is interesting to me. I had no idea until I googled around that the dev who made it won't relent on an option in KDE to hide or do away with it; it's his baby. ;)
54 • Cashew and Stuff (by tdockery97 on 2012-09-21 16:15:06 GMT from United States)
Just tried the py-cashew solution posted above on LMDE KDE and it actually worked.
55 • Flash in Linux (by Anon on 2012-09-22 08:16:40 GMT from Norway)
Flash has always been a weak proposition under Linux. Several years ago Adobe made an about face and started support for Linux, only to announce it would cease doing so not long ago. At least two sites I use to visit have already upgraded to Flash versions unplayable by Firefox on my 64-bit ArchLinux system. However - Google Chrome is still able to handle the same sites. I am not sure, but I seem vaguely to remember something about Google working with Adobe to ensure Flash funcionality in their browser. Here's hoping html5 will catch up speed.
56 • gamers to the rescue.. (by Jordan on 2012-09-22 12:38:31 GMT from United States)
Never liked Chrome or Google (I know, that's like not liking air or donuts), but the built in flash of Chrome does beckon. My Firefox fetish is challenged. In Linux as opposed to Windows we can get into the about:config and tweak away and ruin.. I mean exploit the inner workings to our delight.
Trying that with Chrome would be another Linux delight for me, but I don't know how yet and not sure if Google would allow such a thing (almost typed Microsoft there).
The flash crashes in Chrome have been addressed for Windows by a gamer site.. I am wondering if those smart gamers will turn their attention to the ongoing flash and java issues in Linux.
57 • Sabayon IS a rolling release (by RollMeAway on 2012-09-23 05:13:28 GMT from United States)
I have finally had success upgrading Sabayon release 9 to release 10 on three machines. Had mixed luck with previous versions.
All old computers, one KDE, one LXDE, and one E17.
Most neglected one (KDE) upgraded over 1100 pkgs, without problems, and rebooted OK!
So, if you hate reinstalling, Sabayon is another option for "install once", upgrade forever (well, forever IS a long time!).
58 • Flash & Google Chrome (by Anon on 2012-09-23 09:17:26 GMT from Norway)
Jordan wrote: "Never liked Chrome or Google (...)".
Agreed. I prefer Firefox, but I must say it is good to have Google Chrome as a backup for modern flash sites (as long as it lasts...). Note that I have the latest Adobe flash installed in the OS and working in Firefox for _most sites, i.e. I did _not have to tweak Google Chrome in any way for it to play flash content unavailable with Firefox. Not sure how Google Chrome is interacting with the separately installed Adobe Flash, if at all. Not sure if I want to know either, come to that ;)
59 • Chrome.. flash (by Jordan on 2012-09-23 12:06:01 GMT from United States)
@58 .. on which distro are you running Chrome? I'm seeing issues posted around with it on Slackware derived versions.
60 • Re: 59 • Chrome.. flash (by Jordan (by Anon on 2012-09-24 02:08:23 GMT from Norway)
See my first post above - it is a 64-bit ArchLinux system.
There's a choice between Google Chrome, Google-Chrome-Beta and Google-Chrome-Dev in Arch User Repository (AUR). I am actually running the latter. It's an easy default CLI package install in Arch and I've not experienced any hiccups whatsoever, but then that would have been unheard of in Arch anyway... oops!... Sri! ;)
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