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1 • No subject (by Joaquim Gil on 2007-05-21 09:07:41 GMT from Portugal)
DeLi Linux 0.7.2. That sounds great for, at least, make a dedicated DNS server out of a Pentium 133.
Another great annoncement: rPath Linux 1.0.6. It surely deserves a try.
2 • Re:#1 Distros for older machines (by A. Wong on 2007-05-21 09:22:28 GMT from Canada)
Right now I've gotten DSL 3.3 working on my older Celeron 133 64Mb RAM laptop. It's great to find people making distros that actually work on older machines.
On my older Pentium 4 1.7 512Mb RAM desktop, my favourite distro so far is Elive 0.6.8 because it works quickly and well with all these older peripherals that I have (in LiveCD mode with little tweaking).
Keep up the great work, Ladislav!
3 • Re:#2 Distros for older machines (by A. Wong on 2007-05-21 09:25:47 GMT from Canada)
Sorry, the laptop is a Celeron 400...
4 • RE#2 (by Werewolf on 2007-05-21 09:36:54 GMT from Romania)
If you are looking for a fast distro, then you must try Frugalware! This is my favorite distro :D , damn fast and stable!
5 • OLPC on 60 Minutes: Intel is evil (by tervel on 2007-05-21 09:36:55 GMT from Austria)
Intel is using predatory tactics against the One Laptop Per Child project. In this CBS "60 Minutes" video, Nicholas Negroponte shows documents proving that Intel is pressuring certain governments to not sign with OLPC. Intel is dumping the price of the low volume order of Classmate PCs with Windows XP to prevent OLPC from starting mass production.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39733
http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/27/technology/fastforward_xo.fortune/?postversion=2007042716
http://olpc.tv/2007/05/21/60-minutes/
6 • MEPIS in other languages (by CeVO on 2007-05-21 09:44:32 GMT from Spain)
This is GREAT news. It simply cannot be expected that all people are comfortable with English, so extra efforts for other languages should be applauded, and all serious Linux distros ought to take notice....
7 • Famelix (by pollycat on 2007-05-21 10:07:52 GMT from United Kingdom)
The desktop wallpaper on the Famelix screenshot comes from Windows Vista and the general design and "look and feel" is a blatant copy of the Vista design. It strikes me as funny that it would be presented here as "stunningly beautiful" in design etc. - hats off to Microsoft for this!
8 • RE: 7 Famelix (by ladislav on 2007-05-21 10:17:53 GMT from Taiwan)
Oops, sorry.... Never seen Vista before...
9 • Re: One laptop Per Child (by glas on 2007-05-21 10:33:09 GMT from United Kingdom)
Checked out the links above (#5) and it appears that the operating sysytem will be Wndows Xp, whatever organisation wins the battle to be the major suplier of low-cost laptops to third world children.
What a shame.
10 • Beautiful screens are more likely to be found on XP (Re 7) (by dbrion on 2007-05-21 10:38:41 GMT from France)
This is a purely mecanical effect, as one can either
a) extract Linux screens, if necessary convert them (ImageMagic works with many OSes, I doubt being Windows ported is a loss of intellectual value (at least, I never read the shadow of the beginning of a proof)) and put them on Windows.
b) take pictures or share them with friends or download them.
c) if one has some drawing talents, use the Gimp or Opendraw; both work on XP...
As there are more XPs than Linuxen (this breaking any user number based argument for distribution "superiority"), one can find more nice scrreens under Windows..
In the free world, the best looking pictures I saw were on Freesbie and PC-BSD...
11 • Re: The growing waiting list (by Eddy Nigg on 2007-05-21 11:29:45 GMT from Israel)
Just wondered, if your criteria "and have an ISO image available for download from a working FTP or HTTP server (or at least provide a torrent file)" wouldn't require de-listing of a few distributions, specially the ones which don't provide any download (for free)? Maybe this condition might be outlined differently, depending on your preference, but it seems to me obvious what you meant...
12 • Beautiful and fast (by Gurito on 2007-05-21 11:57:08 GMT from Germany)
Beautiful: Elive, there are a pair of themes that make it incredibly beautiful...
Fast: Arch... I tried Frugalware also, but just to see that, in my personal opinion, Arch is much simpler :) And supports better my laptop :p
13 • elpix (by dbrion on 2007-05-21 12:06:15 GMT from France)
could leave the waiting list and become a distr, if her author agrees as :
she is Knoppix based (good hardware recognition, thus avoiding using Whine Torrent)
she is a live CD (with No install button), thus not intrusive
she taught much a friend of mine
she is successful, and, like PClinuxOS, her servers saturate
she speaks German and american, thus is twice better as PClinuxOS...(if languages are equal, of course)
14 • Very timely! (by just john on 2007-05-21 12:10:32 GMT from United States)
I was just thinking "Is DeLi Linux worth trying for all these old laptops I have?" and your review came just in time.
Thanks!
Keep up the good work, on that, and on all the other stuff!
15 • Re: Re: One laptop Per Child (by Sergio on 2007-05-21 12:45:33 GMT from Portugal)
That's wrong, it will still be factorry based on Linux, not Windows.
It will be able to run Windows, though, due to the addition of a SD sltot, if you really read the article.
It seems that M$ is having a hard time developing a Windows XO ;) because of, guess what: the hardware specs are almost 100% open-source :D
As for Intel, I just hope that AMD Puma comes out as a decent alternative to Centrino. If yes, you can bet I won't hesitate in ever buy again Intel hardware. Companies like these only deserve to be turned down. Maybe there will be the time when they'll get a lesson for employing their dirty tactics.
16 • Offtopic: Tux gallery = the 1000 faces of Tux (by tervel on 2007-05-21 13:36:06 GMT from Austria)
http://tux.crystalxp.net/
17 • famelix lol (by twodogs on 2007-05-21 13:50:54 GMT from United States)
haha famelix just copied vista. even go to there site and its XP! --> http://www.famelix.com.br/
18 • Mandriva (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 14:01:18 GMT from United States)
I find it funny on the release announcement page you see employees fired to save money, and then you look down and see Mandriva acquires Linbox!?
Mandriva is already stretched thin by not employing enough people, but on top of that they decide that acquisitions of failed linux software is a better investment than their employees. And this could be like lindvd, another thing that they pick to drop on a whim after a few months or a year.
19 • RE#12 (by bal0 on 2007-05-21 14:06:07 GMT from Germany)
Well, what you call "simple" ? ;)
To set up your system and make it work you want to in Frugalware is way easier than Arch (and many others), but under the hood the system itself is more KISS in Arch, thats true.
20 • Question 15 what is a "SD sltot" (by dbrion on 2007-05-21 14:07:06 GMT from France)
Is it a supplementary static disk? (if there were not acronyms, it would be simple to understand; in France, acronyms are used to hide the simplicity of the subject -and the necessity to keep one's {low level}""expertise""-; elsewhere I do not know...)
=> If i am not wrong, they will make a dual-boot OLPC?
The advantage of adding Windows is that children may be very happy (in a mechanical way) to do 'like the others' (this explains the attention linuxers give to download figures and page hits numbers, as they [are, if one wants to be politically incorrect] / have been children) => trials to bring linux to schools generally failed, as the PCs were felt as budget ones (linux sites count when one goes from Linux to Windows, but not when one comes back)...
21 • Re: Mandriva (by Troy W. Banther on 2007-05-21 14:14:30 GMT from United States)
How sad. I hope the company can trim the layer of fat at the top and return to a profit.
22 • DeLi (by octathlon on 2007-05-21 14:25:38 GMT from United States)
Thanks for the DeLi review. I think I'll see how it runs on my old Pentium 100 MHz with 48MB. I've never heard of the Ayttm chat client, wonder how well that works.
23 • THANK U 4 DeliLinux!! (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 14:28:26 GMT from Canada)
I very much enjoyed reading about DeliLinux here on DW's Weekly. I have removed Win98 and instead installed DeliLinux on many old hardaware, as a volunteer technician in a community center serving poor and students here in Toronto. People loves DeliLinux. Because unlike Win98, no more crashes or getting viruses. Plus it's up to date and as such it (again, unlike Win98) recognizes almost all new gadgests (i.e, iPods, various Mp3 Players, Flash RAM drives and much more). I think DeliLinux is a perfect distro for legacy hardware--definetely better than the highly misleading Damn Small Linux. The only thing missing in DeliLinux is Firefox. Because without Firefox, it's unfortuneatly not possible to surf the web properly, as most pages are designed for IE and Firefox only. Yes Firefox can be installed on DeliLiniux, but this isn't a good idea, as it's pretty slow.
While we are still on legacy hardware and distros that runs them, i have to mention "The Little Debian". I learned about it only recently. It's an extremly fast, and visually very beautiful distro. It has brought my cute P-I Toshiba with 32Mb of ram to life. It certainly runs better than with Win98, which it replaced. And most importantly, unlike DeliLinux, Firefox runs like a rocket on The Little Debian.
I'm really quite surprized that such a great distro, The Little Debian, isn't listed here on Distrowatch. I sincerely hope it will be listed from now on, so as more people hears about it and use it to keep running their old desktops and laptops.
The only complain have about The Little Debian --it's in Spanish only. I really hope it becomes available in English as well, in order to attract more users and benefit the community.
Finally, may i suggest the DW's monetary award be paid, next time, to DeliLinux for keeping pretty old computers alive through such a great distro? Also, may i please suggest that DW organizes the distros according to what they're mainly used for. For example; DESKTOP DISTROS: Mandriva, Ubuntu, PCLinux, Xandros... / MULTIMEDIA DISTROS: Studio64, Musix, Artistix, MoviX / SCINCE DISTROS: SciencetificLinux, ..... / OLD-LEGACY COMPUTERS DISTROS: DeliLinux, TheLittleDebian, PuppyLinux, ..... / LiveCD/DVD & USB DISTROS: Knoppix, Slax, MCNLive, etc.
Even better, i think it would be great if DW can have another category (besides the above-mentioned one) that lists distros according to the original distros, which they're based on (or derived from). For example: RPM-based: PCLinux, DEBIAN-Based: Xandros, Pardus, .... UBUNTU-Based: Mint, Edubuntu....., etc.
Because, the way it stands now, there are more than 500 distros listed on DW and, needless to mention, looking for a specific distro for specfic porpuse is like looking for a needle in a haystack :)
Anyway Ladislav -- once again, thanks a lot for bringing out another great issue of DW Weekly for our info and pleasure. And we look forward to reading DW Weekly for many more years to come and surfing even a better and more-organized DistroWatch.com
24 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 14:32:15 GMT from Canada)
..... and here are the links for The Little Debian Project:
http://littledebian.pbwiki.com
http://www.linuzeros.org/content/view/25/2/
25 • RE: 23 (by ladislav on 2007-05-21 14:34:19 GMT from Taiwan)
looking for a specific distro for specfic porpuse is like looking for a needle in a haystack :)
You've never seen the search page???
http://distrowatch.com/search
26 • RE: Add to Database (by Justin Whitaker on 2007-05-21 15:04:49 GMT from United States)
Ladislav,
A quick perusal of the waiting list shows many intriguing projects, some of which are now dead, or have not been updated in quite some time.
Of the ones that are still viable, the following should be moved over to the database:
Granular
Tomahawk
OpenFiler
Lazy Dragon
Midnight BSD
BeaFanatIX
Each of these have been around for "a while" and have had more than one release, so they have some staying power. There are a few others, like Necromantux, that fit that criteria, but my Spanish is not very technical: I can't tell if there is something unique there or not (although when has that been a criteria for inclusion? :P).
Thanks,
Justin
27 • Famelix Legality? (by Sam Avery-Quinn on 2007-05-21 15:17:34 GMT from United States)
Beyond a dead knock-off of Vista, that wall paper comes as the default in Vista. Does Microsoft have copyright on that photo? I doubt Famelix folks do.
While I'm supportive of making a GUI that window users can acclimate to quickly and thus ease their possible confusion of switching to Linux (which I still find an odd argument), blatantly copying material from Microsoft (which might even by copyrighted) just paints a bad image for Linux. Does this not fall into the Microsoft FUD about Linux stealing patents from Bill Gates? Think about it - if we steal Vista wallpaper, maybe we do steal patents (of course we don't, but the perception can be fostered by this).
28 • ARCH Linux .. PCLInuxOS .. SIDUX (by Lycan on 2007-05-21 15:19:45 GMT from United States)
Thats all i can say
My favorite 3
29 • boot speed (by Michael Salivar on 2007-05-21 15:25:37 GMT from United States)
When you say nobody has gotten past 30 seconds in grub to login boot speed, are you speaking strictly of the user friendly distributions? I know Arch and Gentoo can boot in closer to 15 seconds, I imagine Slackware is in the same boat.
30 • RE: #27 (by Justin Whitaker on 2007-05-21 15:26:50 GMT from United States)
Good point!
If anything, Linux users as a whole should be helping Microsoft with their anti-piracy efforts. Maybe we should create penguinsversusinfringement.org or something.
We should not turn a blind eye to pirated Vista and XP installs just because it's a blow to Microsoft's revenue. I'm going to set aside the issue of music or game infringement for a moment and say that one way we can combat the whole IP infringement question by showing that we understand Microsoft's problems, and are trying to help.
31 • Beautiful screens are found on PCLinuxOS (by LinFX on 2007-05-21 15:30:37 GMT from United States)
You may be correct but shouldn't they have more? They do still
have a large majority of the market.
That said, PCLinuxOS is one of the best looking distro's out now.
With a beautification team at MyPCLinuxOS.com I dont think it will let up anytime soon.
Check these wallpapers. http://www.linfx.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=6
PCLinuxOS is on FIRE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHT4TgFI5Dg
32 • RE: #30 penguinsversusinfringement.org (by GL on 2007-05-21 15:36:00 GMT from United States)
How about an OS validation feature on the web site that determines if your Windows installation is illegal and offers to replace it with the Linux distro of your choice then and there....
33 • Qu 27 Are natural sites copyrightable? (by dbrion on 2007-05-21 15:43:43 GMT from France)
A suit would be utterly ridiculous, else (if one is religious oriented, it would be blasphematory).
The main trend in Linux communauty (not of linux develloppers) , to day, is to get every worst aspect of Windows copied:
releasing in due time, without too much bug hunting (this happened with Me; XP is infinitely better)=> hundreds of Linuxen exhaust themselves in this sysiphian race
claiming they are perfect
defining some very oriented (and often unsatisfying) notion of user friendliness (with the exception of OLPC, perhaps, as far as now)
considering pple who want cheap hardware as morons...
I wish all these aspects had been patented, thus raising, in the worst case, huge heaps of money...(brevetez l'imbècillité humaine et vous serez très riche)
34 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 16:23:44 GMT from United States)
Excellent DWW!
As for that being the default Vista wallpaper, I've got Vista and have never seen it. Maybe it is available on some machines - I guess for those with high-end graphics. The fonts and menu bar are clearly stolen from Vista.
In any event, it does look pretty nice, though it should be said that I still prefer my Linux desktop. We've got a lot of work to do in the area of appearance, it's good to recognize that fact, but at the same time I don't know a lot computer users who care. I still see Windows 2000 in use and nobody cares.
And by the way, I tried Fedora 7 on my laptop and the appearance and fonts are much better than Vista, IMO. They're doing a great job even at 1280x800!
35 • RE:25 - Mia Culpa!!! (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 16:24:10 GMT from Canada)
ahh, sorry Ladislaw :(
really sorry that i missed your great and highly-organized search page.
But i guess i wouldn't have missed it, if it was prominently displayed on the front page.
You see, i (like many other people that i know), search for distros using the two basic boxes you have provided on the left hand corner of the page, underneat the DISTROWATCH.COM's banner.
I suppose it might be easier for people to spot the detailed search option if the above-described basic searching was removed or replaced with the detailed options, etc.
36 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 16:27:19 GMT from Canada)
Also, i'm sorry for misspelling your name (posting 35), which i should have spelled as Ladislav.
37 • RE: #32 Excellent idea! (by Davey on 2007-05-21 16:31:18 GMT from United States)
I generally couldn't care less about enforcement of corporate "intellectual property" because it's mostly just another tool for them to use bribery and financial might to extort money from innocents.
Still, your idea is outstanding! It gives the lie to charges that OS is about "piracy" and at the same time markets Linux. I hope you'll work on marketing this idea to outfits that might be able to implement it. Maybe OSDL, EFF, or somebody like that?
38 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 16:35:40 GMT from Canada)
Also, i'm sorry for misspelling your name (posting 35), which i should have spelled as Ladislav.
39 • Metalinks instead of direct links to ONE mirror (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 16:47:49 GMT from United States)
You should use metalinks when possible (which link to all mirrors and provide checksums and repair info), instead of a link to a single mirror.
http://www.metalinker.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalink
40 • Late praise for a distro crew... (by spunbondwarrior on 2007-05-21 17:09:50 GMT from United States)
I intended to do this several weeks ago, my how time does fly...
Anyway, I want to say a few good things about the folks who bring out "Pioneer Linux", TAFusion. A distro I do not now run...
They not long ago distributed an "enhanced" version of Mepis. I was at a local network systems contractor one day and they had a few copies of the TA Mepis so I bought one. I took it home put it in an damn if it didn't do anything at all except make some weird screen scenes.
I called and asked what was up, the person I spoke with was quite friendly and obviously product knowledgable. In less than a very few minutes we determined that I had somehow recieved a copy of something that should never have made it to the packaging state. I offered to return the CD to where I purchased it, or send it back to TA directley, but was told no, that's ok, we'll send you a copy we know is good."
In just a very few days I had a little package with a new CD and a very nice mousepad, which was siezed by the S.O. as it is too nice for mean ol' me....
She still runs that TA-Mepis and still uses that mouse pad. They even called to make sure we got it.
The best customer service experience I have ever had.
The absolutely worst unimaginaly bad customer service experience I have ever personally experienced or been made aware of was regarding a purchase from another DW advertiser. That was a purchase of a whole lot more than just a CD or two, a whole lot more....An absolutely unforgivable series of events and total lack of concern for quality and customer satisfaction that led to my sending them an extremely nasty letter about it. They did make things right, but only after assuring me that my perceptions were obviously wrong and that customer service satisfaction and happiness was their primary mission and why that is so. Though I believe the owners statements of concern and apology and etc, that it took me being so nasty to get any results at all, well, I personally will never name, recommend nor buy anything from or thru them again.
If Dell does no better with their Linux strategy, the long term outlook for desktop Linux is rather bleak indeed.
Much better to praise the good by name, than to give even the slightest creedence to the marginal. IMNSHO anyway
41 • DeLi(ghted) (by Claus Futtrup on 2007-05-21 17:19:45 GMT from Denmark)
Great review on DeLi - I considered the system when I first started experimenting with Linux, but unfortunately didn't find my way to boot and install it. Darn - I wish I hadn't thrown out that old 486 machine (with 400 Mb disk and 20 Mb RAM) just 2 months ago. I kept the RAM and the neat #9 GXE Level 11 (2 Mb) videocard.
Best regards,
Claus
Zenwalker
42 • Cytrun Linux (by Ricardo / RR_Fang on 2007-05-21 17:52:00 GMT from Brazil)
Firstly, thank you Ladislav for another great DWW, really enjoyed this one as i already heard from DeLi Linux but never really read a review about it, looks like it can really be handy to make an old box alive for some more time :) And too bad about the costs reduction in Mandriva...
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Now, something about Cytrun Linux, one of the new distros in the waiting list: It is a small and new project specially crafted for servers, focused on security and reliability. Surely, it looks promising and deserves some more attention by anyone who need a "just works", secure by default server solution.
BUT, at the same time, it is known to be spamming/advertising (mass advertising and even "resurrecting" old topics about "whats the best distro for Y", possibly with a bot) on a big forum about computers/hardware in Brasil (Clube do Hardware). Not sure about this on another forums (like Guia do Hardware, known a lot for Kurumin Linux), but HOW can i respect this distro while i notice this kind of attitude??
I would love to hear some explanations from the devs (i'm open to talk, i dislike flamming), but after this sort of disrespecting, mass advertising attitude (come on, this is not the way), i simply cant respect it as I should and give it a try. It would go against my ideals. Hope this can change...
(Sorry for the rant, but i needed to do this)
43 • Boot times (by Tazix on 2007-05-21 18:26:03 GMT from United States)
If DeadCD could do it in 3 seconds when installed to the Hard drive(Not sure about Olive since I never got a copy of that)...I think theres a good chance of reducing boot times dramatically.
Of course... what hardware detection and which init scripts get scrapped in the process, is a different story.
44 • IMPORTANT: Correction on Mandriva layoffs (by Adam Williamson on 2007-05-21 18:58:35 GMT from Canada)
A correction on the Mandriva layoffs story (the fault is mine not Ladislav's, I sent him an inaccurate list and forgot to correct it): Oden Eriksson was not among those whose contracts were ended. He is still here. Sorry about that. I've asked Ladislav to update the story.
45 • OLPC (by Glenn on 2007-05-21 19:33:28 GMT from United States)
I read the articles referenced earlier and now I'm more confused than ever. I think that OLPC is a great idea/project, and I thought it was on track to provide a nice, AMD powered Laptop running Linux to lots of people for $176.00 (to start out with) and then drop to $100.00 as numbers increased. But now it looks like Intel and M$ are throwing a wrench in the works. Why? Is it plain and simple greed, and they're trying to crush the competition, or what? I can understand M$ doing that, but I've always thought of Intel as being a little more even-handed. (Even though I have AMD processors in my computers). I wonder how long it will be until this all plays out? I just have a bad feeling about this. M$ is going to worm their way into the OLPC and turn it into a far more costly project than was originally intended. For starters, if they put a windows OS on those computers, then won't they still have to buy all those expensive proprietory apps in order to get any real, practical use out of the OLPC computers? With Linux, they wouldn't have to do that, right? Someone please explain it to me.
Glenn
46 • DeLi (by Chris on 2007-05-21 21:35:43 GMT from Netherlands)
Thank you very much for the DeLi article!
47 • PCLinuxOS is on FIRE!!! (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 21:41:02 GMT from United States)
Let us call the Firefighters so that they can put out that FIRE!!!
No, just kidding congratulations to Texstar for his hard work and PCLinuxOS.
Now the question becomes will it catch, Ubuntu? It still needs 1000 or more hits to catch.
48 • Re: 47 PCLinuxOS still needs 1000 or more hits.... (by GL on 2007-05-21 21:51:14 GMT from United States)
Try refreshing the Page Hit Counter to display the last seven days....
49 • Waiting List (by Ariszló on 2007-05-21 21:52:03 GMT from Hungary)
I have been experimenting with Kiosk CD's recently and foun Webconverger quite good:
http://webconverger.com/
50 • 48 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-21 22:14:57 GMT from United States)
You are absolutely right. PCLinuxOS is indeed no. 1. For a long time there I really thought that no other distro was going to catch Ubuntu. I has 2655 hits and Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Sabayon and then Fedora. Things are indeed changing!!!
Thanks GL for pointing this out.
51 • OLPC: DVDRAM Storage and I/O's. (by Andre Gompel on 2007-05-21 22:28:42 GMT from United States)
1) The OLPC (one laptop per child) is "flash based" to avoid the high cost (and power requirement) of a hard disk.
If the OLPC has one on more inexpensive (simple) SATA ports, connecting a SATA DVD-RAM (like the Samsung, orr perhaps LG) could be very useful.
Nowdays the DVDRAM are becoming fast (12x), and are also very inexpensive... but they still require some power.
So it would be great for the basic flash based Linux to support SATA based DVDRAM.
I have used (Linux) a DVDRAM and even though it is now an old (slow) model, just love it! It is like a 5 GB hard disk.
2) OLPC CPU Core: cheaper and faster CPU come up all the time, but I would love to see a powerfull open source core, to allow building a large SOC for this project! I am sure that llarge foundries would be delighted to make "opens core" based silson for this type of project which could become very large volume.
So far the Strong Arm derivatives (Intel) are quite good, but they are not open source...
This was my 2 cents.
Andre
52 • Frugalware is very simple to use (by Marius on 2007-05-21 22:40:39 GMT from Romania)
If you think Arch is easier then Frugalware then there must be something a wrong with how you look at simple , IMO. Besides Frugalware is also more polished , just look at fonts, the default look in KDE ...
What Frugalware is lacking and I have to admit it is a bigger community and you can feel that with hardware support and strange bugs that pop up.
You could however help and make it so that Frugalware better supports you laptop or whatever. You can't really expect the devs to support something that's not even requested or tested by anybody. They are pretty stretched out as is and probably don't need yet more work.
53 • Famelix new version - stunningly beautiful??? (by Blarg on 2007-05-21 23:55:30 GMT from Australia)
"Originally designed as a virtual clone of the Windows XP desktop, the new version 2.0 delivers a stunningly beautiful desktop environment with many enhancements and artistic additions."
Should read
"Originally designed as a virtual clone of the Windows XP desktop, the new version 2.0 is a clone of the Windows Vista desktop"
It even features one of Vistaswallpapers. Please call a spade a spade. The new version is so obviously a clonne of Vista it's almost laughable.
54 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-22 00:15:19 GMT from United States)
Why is it that most distros use the standard KDE or Gnome toolbars which are flat and ugly? Why can't these desktops or the distros that use them add some 3-dimensionality to them? The few that do look far more pleasing and professional than the majority that don't.
BTW, I'm talking about the toolbar itself, not the icons or buttons or whatever you want to call them that are on the toolbar. It's a major reason why many Linux desktops look so...... unfinished, compared to a Macrosuck Winbloze desktop. It's just one of those little things that myself and a number of people I know find a turn-off.
55 • No Beagle for me - not even in Fedora 9 (by Ohnonymous on 2007-05-22 01:37:56 GMT from United States)
No thank you. Beagle is bloated and extremely CPU heavy. I can make a new folder any time *I* need to organize my files.
What bizarre stupidity possessed Fedora developers that they ever decided to install it by default?
56 • Security lifetime of PCLinuxOS 2007 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-22 02:43:56 GMT from United States)
Can a PCLinuxOSer please tell me, how long are security updates guaranteed for PCLinuxOS 2007 and major packages?
57 • Suggestion (by Marcos on 2007-05-22 03:16:05 GMT from Argentina)
It would be nice to have on every distro page (here, in DW) a link to the corresponding article in wikipedia, don't you think?
58 • RE: 56 (by johncoom on 2007-05-22 03:42:16 GMT from Australia)
This is rather a silly place to ask this question - do you imagen that PCLinuxOS people are hanging out here just to answer questions :-(
Why don't you go here http://www.pclinuxos.com/
Then into the SUPPORT -> FORUM where you will have to Register first and ask your question in the forum area of:-
General (General questions that do not fit in the above catagories)
Please do not put your question in any other Forum area (other wise it will likely get moved by a moderator) - that should be obvious - its common sence
Please think carefully before you post - it is not hard you know :-)
Lastly after registering in the forums - later if you do not want to be a mamber any more - you can when logged in use the PROFILE button to Delete the Account
Finally - I have not answered your question because I do not know the answer - it is quite obvious that the PCLinuxOS Forums is the place to ask
Have I held your hand enough now, and pointed you in the right direction ?
59 • Re: #56 PCLinuxOS support (by PCLinuxOS user at 2007-05-22 03:48:07 GMT from United States)
I looked, but found no reference to any support timeline on their sites. Updates were dropped for the last version when the team started on PCLinuxOS 2007, about six months ago. Long time, no patches. Hopefully Tex or one of the Ripper Gang will come along to answer this for you (and me!)
60 • correction to 58 - RE: 56 (by johncoom on 2007-05-22 03:51:27 GMT from Australia)
I should have wrote
Lastly after registering in the forums - later if you do not want to be a mamber any more - you can when logged in use the PROFILE button find where to Delete the Account
61 • #58 (by PCLinuxOS user on 2007-05-22 03:53:22 GMT from United States)
Bad day, John?
That post would make me want to run AWAY from the forums, not towards it.
Could you hand #56 his head back now, so he can put it back on his neck?
62 • 58 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-22 04:21:30 GMT from United States)
This is all too common a case these days with PCLinuxOS. An okay distro with a lot of arrogance in the users and those running the joint. It's not perfect and we won't die without it. It's not God's gift to Linux users.
63 • re: 61 (by johncoom on 2007-05-22 04:21:49 GMT from Australia)
Well yes I am know to be rather gruf when people seem to be doing silly things like not bothering to go to the appropriate place to ask questions about particular aspects of individual Linux Distributions
I mean one does not have to be a Rocket Scientist to work it out.
Please forgive me if I sound gruf (bad temperd) it was not ment that way - I was offering what I considered to be the obvious and usefull way to find out.
Shall I just go and craw in a hole now, because people are SO sensitive ?
64 • RE: 63 (by ladislav on 2007-05-22 05:09:12 GMT from Taiwan)
You could have simply said that the PCLinuxOS forum would be a more appropriate place to aks without making the guy feel like a fool (for not being able to figure out such and obvious (!) thing for himself). Besides, what's wrong with asking a question like that here? There are many PCLinuxOS users and fans who read the forum and even Texstar has posted here a few times before.
Running and moderating a user forum of a beginner-friendly distro requires much more skill and patience than doing the same for one of the more technical distros. Yes, it's tempting to jump all over a new user for not having read the rules or for posting in the wrong forum. But as a newbie-friendly distro, it is essential that you guys learn these skills. There have been quite a few complaints about the way PCLinuxOS is moderated recently, so there is obviously (here is that word again) room for improvement.
I know it can be hard, but sometimes it's better not to reply at all than to post an angry response. Learn from your leader; Texstar is surely one of the nicest guys in the Linux community - don't spoil things for him!
65 • Mandriva 2007.1 (by info@asmabahceler.com on 2007-05-22 05:24:53 GMT from Turkey)
German :
Mann kann Mandriva Letzte Version auf jedem Fall nur mit einem Wort ausdrücken ; Supeeer !
English :
No more than...Mandriva last Version 2007.1 is Super ! Super ! Super !
http://www.asmabahceler.com
66 • re: 64 (by johncoom on 2007-05-22 05:38:09 GMT from Australia)
ladislav - thanks for advice - I eat humble pie
67 • qu 47 : can you prove GNU apps can get expensive when windows ported? (by dbrion on 2007-05-22 05:38:54 GMT from France)
"For starters, if they put a windows OS on those computers, then won't they still have to buy all those expensive proprietory apps in order to get any real, practical use out of the OLPC computers? "
Choose one app [not linked with the kernel nor 1 out > 8 desktops], say, for OLPC abiword or Python
go to sourceforge or the apps site
compare lucidly (not ritually) the Windows port with the Linux original...
At least 90% of interesting GNU apps have been ported... They did not become that expensive.
As far as OLPC are concerned, the user does not have to add frequently apps (disks are flash, like USB keys).
There is another point which is not politically correct to post about, it is laptop power (one can /hear/ that a laptop ha(s/d) a Linux installed, from worn out fans: that is why Microsoft windows is spelled winblows...) It is economically interesting, as there are more laptops bought than desktops (and they remain more expensive).
In one (sorry, that is the drawback of fashion, I do not remember which) UBUlinux review, I read, of course Ubuntu could be installed, rocked, was sooo beautiful ,et pat
but
there was one
unanswered
post
"Why does my laptop last twice less time under Ubuntu than under Windows?"
This was the same ratio that I suffered from with another type of laptop till Mandriva published (in GNU/linux magazine, mars 2006) how to somewhat lower the consumption. From Linux Identity Kit, no 1/2007 I read p 33 that Mandriva continued trying to improve this power management (not the buttons actions). What did the other well hit rated Linuxen do?
68 • Re: #64 (by PCLinuxOS user on 2007-05-22 05:41:07 GMT from United States)
Thanks, Ladislav. Very well stated.
69 • Cor 68 subject: 45 is 47 (by dbrion on 2007-05-22 05:55:28 GMT from France)
and sorry for 69...
70 • Re: 58 (by h3rman on 2007-05-22 07:32:32 GMT from Europe)
Hi johncoom,
you know what's a bit ironic, you spent so many words disciplining Mr or Mrs Anonymous, it would have taken much less of an effort to just answer the question. :)
71 • Trying out Mandriva (by h3rman on 2007-05-22 07:48:04 GMT from Europe)
But back to business..
somebody above mentioned Mandriva 2007.1 Spring.
I never thought I would try that, since I sort of stick to Fedora and CentOS, but last week I got a nice cheap little new computer which is also my first 64 bit computer.
Ladislav has stated that Mandriva is doing well on the 64 bit front, so I decided (sice Fedora 7 final is not out yet) to download and try Mandriva One for a change, which is also a live cd, and which has quite a few restricted codecs on board, so I wouldn't have to go out hunting for a repo with gstreamer-plugin-ugly etc.
I have to say that in spite of a few minor flaws, such as it having a "Google Earth install" button, clicking on which results in a totally broken Google Earth installation, or IceWM freezing completely, or Rhythmbox bugs, this release is pretty good. Fast boot, very easy installation but with enough options. I'll give it a try for a few weeks and then decide if it's good enough to make me delay installing Fedora 7 on it (which is unlikely).
72 • Swings and Roundabouts (by davecs on 2007-05-22 11:48:11 GMT from United Kingdom)
With every distro you get good and bad points. The "character" of PCLinuxOS is based on the fact that it's created by a small team, and as Ladislav correctly says, it's led by one of the nicest, most laid-back guys you're likely to come across in a domain where people can be quite arrogant at times.
The "small team" can therefore maintain a sense of focus, in this case on the SOHO user, and it's this that has propelled PCLinuxOS to where it is today. But with such a small team, there are not the resources to maintain the older (2004 - ie all releases up to 0.93a) repositories once work begins on a newer set. If we had those resources, would we have the same focus and appeal to the same people? It's a hard question. And could it have been done, bearing in mind that many new packages just wouldn't compile using the v3 compilers any more?
As long as the current compiler can be used, each PCLOS version will upgrade to the next. All updates will continue. This will hopefully be a good few years.
If PCLinuxOS doesn't fully address your concerns, don't use PCLinuxOS. There are loads of distros, with different priorities for different people. Find one that suits you and your hardware. Whatever one it is, it's better than Windows!
73 • OLPC and windows (by john frey on 2007-05-22 12:37:02 GMT from Canada)
If you rely on CNN for news you are likely to have a fairly distorted view of, well, pretty much everything. I read Negroponte's response to OLPC running windows and he says it will not. MS has some units that they are working on, and an SD slot was included at MS request. The OLPC project is NOT putting windows on the machine, that is a complete misrepresentation of the facts.
MS may be trying to put windows on the OLPC but, given the culture at OLPC and MS development practices, it is highly that any version of windows will ever be distributed with the OLPC.
That kind of FUD should not get perpetuated here at Distrowatch.
74 • pclos + frugal (by Vanillah on 2007-05-22 12:51:19 GMT from Serbia)
Any variation of the word "pclos" should be banned from the DWWComments! Do you have anything to talk about except damn pclos? I've been reading DWW for a few months now, and every issuse contains pclos troll. Cut it out!
Who said that Frugal is stable? I had Bug Buddy popping out on me for every app I started. After that, system worked flawlessly for some time, then everything just crashed all of a sudden. Certain hal problems, grub crashed etc etc...
75 • RE: #74 pclos / frugal (by Martin on 2007-05-22 13:50:05 GMT from Netherlands)
relax, vanillah, we had the ubuntu fanboys, the puppy enthousiasts, now the pcos wave, what's next? so, just lean back and enjoy distrowatch. i do.
76 • RE: 58, etc. PCLOS (by octathlon on 2007-05-22 14:12:46 GMT from United States)
Seems you don't even have to visit the PCLOS forums to get a dressing-down from them for asking a simple, reasonable question. I had been wondering if the complaints were justified or not, but that post removes any doubt.
johncoom> "Have I held your hand enough now, and pointed you in the right direction ?"
Yes, thank you; you've pointed me in the right direction. Away from recommending PCLOS to anyone I want to give a good first impression of the Linux community.
77 • 76 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-22 14:57:23 GMT from United States)
Ubuntu users may be annoying because they think their distro is so good, and don't realize everything in Ubuntu is also in other distros. However, I still recommend Ubuntu over PCLOS because of the recent arrogant attitude of PCLOS users. I don't know anything about Texstar, but I know the PCLOS community is not a good thing for new users.
Go Ubuntu (for newbies, anyway).
78 • Distro Bashing (by mudcat on 2007-05-22 16:06:51 GMT from United States)
Anyone who would evaluate a distribution based on the posts of a single "loose cannon" (and not really a bad guy, once you figure out his "communication style") is none-too-bright. And, I don't use distributions endorsed by half-wits. So, no Ubuntu for me.
Oh, wait...
Seriously, though, I have PCLinuxOS, openSUSE, and Ubuntu on three different machines, serving three different purposes. PCLinuxOS is the only one that I would entrust to Windows or Mac users. openSUSE is my favorite, after serious "tweaking." But, Ubuntu is also quite nice and is doing a fantastic job of getting attention for Linux in general.
Let's cut to the chase... I have seen posts from partisans for nearly every major distribution which appear "arrogant" (K/X/Ubuntu fans are one of the groups I rank high on that list), but I always try to evaluate the distribution on the merit of the software and, to a somewhat lesser degree, on the support of its community. In both of these lights, PCLinuxOS and Ubuntu shine. Both, have friendly communities. But, I've also seen overzealous moderation -- as well as whacked out fans -- on each, as well. Let's try to be objective and fair in these comparisons. We all want to see more freedom (and quality) in our desktop and server options. Let's not snipe at those seeking the same things.
79 • PCLOS Forums (by txMike on 2007-05-22 17:35:27 GMT from United States)
2000 people do fine, 1 doesn't.
The forum is great, especially for new folks. And the distro is the best out of the box.
80 • 71 (by Adam Williamson on 2007-05-22 17:47:56 GMT from Canada)
h3rman, what problems have you had with Rhythmbox in Spring? I use Rhythmbox literally all the darn time and I've not had any issues with it. If you'd let us know I'm sure we can look into it. Just tell me here or report to Bugzilla - http://qa.mandriva.com/ . Thanks.
81 • Absolute Garbage Linux (by slaxes on 2007-05-22 18:02:32 GMT from United States)
Sometimes stuff just get to me. I wanted to try absolute after reading about it here. I downloaded it, twice actually-discovered that the md5sum is on the zip file and not the iso. Ok the beta install fails to create a fstab, creates a blank mtab-can't install a bootloader. Ok try to registar at absolute's forum tried several times. Nope registration is SNAFUED . No irc so all I can say is stay away from absolute linux.
82 • Boot times (by none on 2007-05-22 18:24:50 GMT from Finland)
Just have to mention that "30 seconds" is quite misleading. Ubuntu and eg. Mandriva can easily boot from _GRUB_ to _GDM start_ in ca. 10 seconds or so. You just need to calculate also the ages the PC takes to get past BIOS/POST (from the button press to when GRUB has loaded), and also GDM/KDM takes some time to start, not to mention the awful startup times of both GNOME and KDE with non-top-of-the-line hard discs.
On my brand new computer, for some reason also GRUB + Linux takes about 5 (!!) seconds to first start - "Loading Stage 2" (I've disabled Stage 1.5 in hope of faster boot but to no help) and then after selecting the kernel "Starting". I don't know what the heck GRUB/Linux is doing at that point of time, probably some extreme disk partition checking slowness or something, but I hate it and it didn't happen with the same hard disc with the previous motherboard.
83 • No subject (by Bill Gatz on 2007-05-22 18:32:31 GMT from United States)
Is it "oo-boon-too" or is it "oo-bun-too" or is it
"uh-boon-too."
Inquiring minds want to know.
84 • How to pronounce Ubuntu (by Phidia on 2007-05-22 18:38:19 GMT from United States)
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10216&highlight=pronouce+ubuntu
85 • Ubuntu Christian edition (by Jim on 2007-05-22 19:29:10 GMT from United States)
Ubuntu in all it's variations get entirely too much attention here. There's many variations on Ubuntu (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Fluxbuntu, Scibuntu, Ebuntu, Devbuntu, nUbuntu, Ubuntu Christian Edition, Dubuntu, zUbuntu, and many others. Each one is mentioned when a new version is released. This is an obvious tactic to keep Ubuntu in the forefront of Linux distributions.
What would happen if the other distributions did this? What if SUSE decided to split into kSUSE, gSUSE, xSUSE, eSUSE, nSUSE, etc... a different version for each desktop available? What if the others did the same?
In my experience Ubuntu isn't worth the hype and attention it gets. It's a second rate distribution that's grown in popularity because at every opportunity the distro's creators use sites like this as a marketing tool.
86 • Thank you (by Ario on 2007-05-22 19:43:39 GMT from Iran, Islamic Republic of)
Thank you all and specially Mr. Alan Baghomian for translating this to persian my language.
I will be glad if anything I can do for you in any way.
Good wishes for you.
Ario from Iran
87 • Re. 85 (by UZ64 on 2007-05-22 19:54:26 GMT from United States)
"In my experience Ubuntu isn't worth the hype and attention it gets. It's a second rate distribution that's grown in popularity because at every opportunity the distro's creators use sites like this as a marketing tool."
I partially agree with what you're saying, but I really doubt Ladislav gives a damn that his site is being used as a "marketing tool" to skyrocket the Ubuntu family's popularity. Hell, Ubuntu Christian Edition bypassed the waiting list and went straight to the main database because the distro's creators threw some money his way! That's something I personally have more of a grudge against than Ubuntu having "too many" distros. The fact that it brings religion (of all things) to the computing world makes it a double whammy, and it's one distro I wouldn't mind seeing crash and burn.
I imagine Ladislav's number one goal is to get people off Windows and other proprietary operating systems, and let them know that there are alternatives out there. It worked for me, and no doubt countless others, so no doubt he has been successful in some cases. Whether a person chooses one of the Ubuntus or something else is probably the least of his worries... as long as they switch, or at least spread the word that there *are* alternatives out there.
I personally don't use Ubuntu myself, but I have played around with it and its main siblings, and it's really not that bad. Still, when it came time to choose a distro, I decided to choose between Slackware, Arch, Frugalware, KateOS, and Zenwalk, finally deciding on Zen. If Debian Etch would have been out in the time of my switch, I may have seriously considered it as well. There are at least a half-dozen more (besides those) that are worthy, IMO.
On the other hand, Ubuntu was the first distro I successfully got working on my mom's computer with the wireless card working right out of the install. Not the best distro for the system (the machine only has about 192 megs of memory and a cheap AMD proessor), but it did work as expected with no tweaking.
88 • Ubuntu pronunciation (by Bill Gatz on 2007-05-22 20:04:31 GMT from United States)
Well, thanks for that link, but all it points to is
a bunch of people disagreeing on how to pronounce
Ubuntu.
I'll stick with "oo-boon-too," I guess. :)
89 • More Ubuntu Pronunciation (by davecs on 2007-05-22 20:48:40 GMT from United Kingdom)
It's one of those strange words. It's spelt "Ubuntu" but pronounced "Unable to install Gentoo".
90 • RE # 89: Ubuntu pronunciation (by linbetwin on 2007-05-22 22:01:07 GMT from Romania)
No, it's pronounced "After finally getting the damn Gentoo Live DVD to boot, the buggy GTK-based installer crashes every step of the installation process, so good luck trying to get the Gentoo DVD to boot again, but we made live CDs and DVDs and buggy GUI installers anyway, because we want to be user-friendly like Ubuntu."
91 • This is great!! (by Bob Wyld on 2007-05-22 22:53:44 GMT from United States)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20070522/tc_infoworld/88741;_ylt=ApSt8kE96Ze.FH_PCI5Sv9QjtBAF
Just gotta love Linux users. And it is so obvious that MS is so full of crap.
But maybe MS telling OSS to patent their products is a good thing before MS steals it all.
92 • Mandriva 2007.1 Spring is Wonderfull. (by info on 2007-05-23 00:00:22 GMT from Turkey)
I am testing at the Time Mandriva Linux 2007.1 Spring-Version. It is really wonderfull. The Test-Resultate is very very good - Firstclass.
Thanks Mandriva-Producer and - Mandriva-Community.
Regards From TURKEY
chin
93 • wallpapers (by Ref #31 PCLinuxOS wallpapers on 2007-05-23 00:47:49 GMT from United States)
go here --> http://picasaweb.google.com/getlinuxnow/MyPCLinuxOSWalls for all of gryphen's wallpapers!
94 • strange distros (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 01:05:44 GMT from Australia)
* PClinuxOS 0.93a is a great distro - "the Ubuntu of the RPM world" - but it has a strange way of handling partitions. e.g. it lists Windows partitions as win_c, win_d, win_e etc., instead of hda1, hda2, hda3, etc. This might be an attempt to help Windows migrators - but they are not automatically mounted, so there are no files or folders listed in them. Other distros can provide immediate access to Windows partitions.
* Religion is moving into the Open source community. Not only is there Ubuntu CE, but Puppy Linux has a Church distro:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=17939
95 • RE: 87 (by ladislav on 2007-05-23 01:26:42 GMT from Taiwan)
The issue of Ubuntu Christian Edition by-passing the waiting list keeps coming up here, so let me spend a few minutes to clear things up. Yes, the creator of the distro bought an advertising banner on DistroWatch and that's how it managed to get listed straight away instead of spending months on the waiting list. But the truth is that it was I who suggested this solution. As you can imagine, some of the distribution makers keep emailing and nagging me to list their distro as soon as possible, so in these cases I ask them to buy advertising on the site in exchange for the listing (I don't charge for listing itself). This suggestion either gets them off my back or makes me some money, so it's a good way of solving a problem. But it usually takes several emails before I suggest this sort of solution.
Ubuntu CE wasn't the first distro to do this; in the past year or so I remember Pioneer and Karoshi also buying advertising banners on the site in exchange for being added to the DW database.
If any of the distro makers (or readers) want to see a distro move from the waiting list to the DW database without a delay, they (you) can simply follow the example of Ubuntu CE (and others) and do the same. The pricing is US$160 for 100,000 banner impressions and the distro in question will be listed with an hour or two after receiving the payment.
96 • RE: 87 (by Ohnonymous on 2007-05-23 02:06:33 GMT from United States)
The stated purpose of Ubuntu CE is to bring Linux to Christians, not the other way around.
97 • Mandriva (by Jesse on 2007-05-23 03:13:39 GMT from Canada)
I seem to recall some debate last month about whether Mandriva or
Ubuntu would better fit the needs of the French government. Seeing
Mandriva struggle finacially and lay off developers suggests to
me that they aren't a company I would buy from. They may have an excellent
distro, but the company doesn't look stable.
98 • Famelix :( (by khai on 2007-05-23 03:16:14 GMT from Canada)
Famelix looks very good, but it's impossible to download it from North America.
Either no response from download server or speed <3kb/s finished with broken download.
99 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 04:31:50 GMT from United States)
> Ubuntu Christian Edition bypassed the waiting list and went straight to the main database because the distro's creators threw some money his way!
Who cares? Are you saying this is unethical? I don't see your point.
100 • Pay for listing (by Jim on 2007-05-23 05:34:39 GMT from United States)
So, pay $160 to bypass the waiting list...
Hmmm...
How much did it cost the authors of Ubuntu to get the #1 position?
101 • Ubuntu haters (by Debian lover on 2007-05-23 06:02:06 GMT from United Kingdom)
"In my experience Ubuntu isn't worth the hype and attention it gets. It's a second rate distribution that's grown in popularity because at every opportunity the distro's creators use sites like this as a marketing tool."
Marketing? It's free! They even send free CDs. (hence the popularity). Marketing what?
I am no newbie to Linux, but have Ubuntu installed as my primary desktop OS, just because of the ease of it. It has everything all the other distros have, development stuff, command line stuff, plus a nice bit of gloss (I turn off half the gnome device management "autorun" things, and replace the default theme). And it's based on Debian... which incidentally is my 2nd boot OS, for when I want to run my own routines in true 64bit under natively compiled kernel etc.
If you don't like it, don't use it. But there's no need to bash what is essentially a good thing for Linux in general.
102 • com 97: Enfin la rituelle danse du scalp autour de Mandriva (by dbrion on 2007-05-23 06:36:51 GMT from France)
"Mandriva struggle finacially and lay off developers suggests to
me that they aren't a company I would buy from. They may have an excellent
distro, but the company doesn't look stable.
"
The governement did not by anything from UBUlinux; the Parliament bought UBUlinux for their successors (to day, the whole parliament is laid off, and I do not know whether they loved their successors -this would be very innovating, in my cynical opinion- ).
Government and parliament are separated (google search Montesquieu).
Often, gov linked entities use Suze or Fedora-derived linuxen, if needed - the vast majoriy is Microsoft Windows, with OpenOffice to claim free software is used and ask better pricesfrom a serious OS
Openoffice is sometimes installed: , thus L/linux press writes about it; sometimes -removed-: well, let us stay politicall correct....
Mandriva is widely used in universities and research -and security / version continuity are archived, this making their economic future not a concern for free download [if it does not work in France, it will work in Austria, say]-
Mixing politics, economics and technics is a source of confusion, specially when based on wrong facts.
BTW: normally, I will be flamed as being a Mandriva loover:
not to lose time:
professionnaly, I use ( arbitrary order) HP-UX, AIX, Suze, RedHat derived linuxen or Cygwin (this is a vey good idea of Red Hat), individually, I use XP and pay (3 times more than for Windows XP, this giving the argument "Winblows is expensive" its full intellectual value) for Mandriva and docs (both are interesting)...
103 • RE: 100 Pay for listing (by ladislav on 2007-05-23 07:21:37 GMT from Taiwan)
You sound like a troll, but I'll answer your question anyway.
No distribution or project has ever paid money (or even asked if they can pay money) to influence the DistroWatch page hit ranking statistics. As for Canonical/Ubuntu, they have never ever paid anything, not even one cent, to DistroWatch for any service whatsoever.
The only thing that can be bought on DistroWatch is advertising space.
Is that clear?
104 • re #89 (by ray carter at 2007-05-23 14:25:23 GMT from United States)
Actually, I have installed Gentoo, fully optimized on my mini-itx. I also use ubuntu on my laptop and two other desktops plus the four seats I admin for the local library.
105 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 14:50:18 GMT from United States)
I don't mind debate, complaining, and all that. But the whining about who is in what position on the list is ridiculous. Ladislav does not have a patent on lists (actually, Microsoft has filed for that patent). You are free to start your own website and construct any kind of list that makes you happy.
Unless you have specific evidence of wrongdoing, I would prefer as a DWW reader that you vandalize a different site with your goofy accusations. It wouldn't bother me a bit if Ladislav were to delete posts like that.
106 • re: 91 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 15:08:50 GMT from United States)
This is great! And the fact that M$ says it doesn't want to sue shows that they really want to be the next SCO. Remember, SCO started out by selling Linux "licenses", very similar to what M$ is doing now.
107 • PCLinuxOS (by Jerry B. on 2007-05-23 16:24:56 GMT from United States)
I was looking around the pclinuxos forums and lo and behold I am
not the only one who cannot get the 2007 final version to install, or
even to run in live cd mode.
Dozens of reported problems.
Reminds me of when the Edsel came out.
108 • Famelix Picture (by Pat Rinehart on 2007-05-23 16:46:26 GMT from United States)
Can anyone identify where the Famelix screenshot photo above was taken?
http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/famelix-2.0-beta-small.png
Thanks, Pat
109 • RE: 93 (by tao on 2007-05-23 18:06:05 GMT from United States)
Thanks for the link.
110 • RE: 107 (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 18:17:10 GMT from United Kingdom)
Over the 2 years I have been using linux on my home desktop, I've had quite a few distributions I couldn't properly/fully install for one reason or another. But I didn't waste my time or anyone else's badmouthing any of them here. Instead, I went to the help forums of the appropriate distro, found which category to ask my question, posted the problem, et voila!, solution provided by very helpful communities.
You might try it yourself ... and if you are friendly and polite, they'll likely treat you in the same manner. If you get a nasty forum reply, step away and look in the mirror. You might find the problem there.
Fan of PCLOS, Mepis, Ubunut, Mint, DSL, Puppy, Beatrix (when it was around), Xandros for a while, Linspire, Vector, .... , with my first exposure to linux years back on RedHat 6.x.
111 • Please... (by Yoyo on 2007-05-23 18:19:53 GMT from Mexico)
"I was looking around the pclinuxos forums and lo and behold I am
not the only one who cannot get the 2007 final version to install, or
even to run in live cd mode."
Oh please.
That's true of absolutely every distro version ever released. Considering all the possible hardware combinations, that's a fact of life.
112 • "Why does my laptop last twice less time under Ubuntu than under Windows?" (by Anonymous on 2007-05-23 18:37:12 GMT from United States)
> "Why does my laptop last twice less time under Ubuntu than under Windows?"
For me, one reason seems to be that the linux version of Firefox is sucking the life out of it. I have 3 web pages open now, and top says that Firefox is sucking 20% of the CPU. Linux PowerTop has some patches for Firefox, but I haven't tried them yet.
http://www.linuxpowertop.org/
Wish it wasn't so, but my laptop runs horrendously hot under linux, at last using Firefox.
113 • RE: 83 Ubuntu pronounciation (by Tazix on 2007-05-23 19:54:17 GMT from United States)
Well... according to a video I saw with Canonical founder Mark Shuttleworth, doing an interview for the Dell deal... it's pronounced:
Ooh-buhn-too (but said quickly)
Which is how I've always pronounced it. (good guess on my part)
That said... pronounce it any way you want... it's all good. :)
114 • RE: 83 - More for 113 (by Tazix on 2007-05-23 19:56:47 GMT from United States)
Oh... and you can see for yourself here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZiw-2wEQE
115 • everything! (by max on 2007-05-23 20:52:26 GMT from Germany)
i dont know why this "page hit ranking" still there when you know that is incorrect!?
i think you can work on enhancing "search" page ladislav.
speaking more about the exact functionality of distros is better than what did you buy as a computer!
ohh plz look at comments...what is this comments page now alike?!that distro is ugly....my distro is the best....and blah blah blah...!!
it seems linux has no error in body then everybody sad about fonts and art works!!how many distros works like windows xp that is made in 2001 and still works good...too many works need to do dear scientists!
are you that gurus who wants to hack the planet?!
every distro is million lines of codes, when you can not use what others create then who are you?
116 • Great Book LPI Linux (by Bill Savoie at 2007-05-23 21:35:14 GMT from United States)
Thanks Ladislav.! I followed your advice about the 'In a nutshell' O'Relly book "LPI Linux Certification" and it is a wonderful book.. 961 pages and quick index and all located in the same book. I have maybe 100 books, one on SED, three on VI, many PHP books, Python books, network books, Perl books, etc, but this one covers many needed subjects in one place. Thanks for pointing to this keeper.
Again you keep us growing by allowing your intuition and enjoyment of Linux to be your guide.
117 • Re: Ubuntu haters (by Jim on 2007-05-23 21:38:15 GMT from United States)
I tried Kubuntu. I installed it. I did the recommended updates. Next start of the computer it wouldn't do it. Tried again. Same thing. Tried Ubuntu. Same thing. That same computer ran SuSE 9.3 and 10.0 with no problems.
118 • RE: 59 (by devnet on 2007-05-23 22:04:30 GMT from United States)
"I looked, but found no reference to any support timeline on their sites. Updates were dropped for the last version when the team started on PCLinuxOS 2007, about six months ago. Long time, no patches. Hopefully Tex or one of the Ripper Gang will come along to answer this for you (and me!)"
The reason support for .93a was terminated was because 2007 uses GCC4 and not GCC3. That means ALL applications had to be recompiled for 2007. Tex had to make a decision...either keep 2007 on GCC3 and make no steps forward...or stop development on .93a and work toward GCC4 in 2007.
If he didn't do that, he'd have had to have his developers maintain 2 repositories separate from one another...with a small team and NO space on the ibibilio servers at the time...he couldn't do that.
So, that's why updates were killed. Before that, you could have downloaded .71 and updated it to .93a :) I expect 2007 and forward will have the same comittment.
119 • RE: 77 (by devnet on 2007-05-23 22:07:59 GMT from United States)
"Ubuntu users may be annoying because they think their distro is so good, and don't realize everything in Ubuntu is also in other distros. However, I still recommend Ubuntu over PCLOS because of the recent arrogant attitude of PCLOS users"
Please do justify your comments and substantiate them with examples...I'm one of those users and I don't like being labeled arrogant when I'm not...today I helped over 25 different new users in the PCLOS IRC channel...and many of them could have googled their response. I took the time to show them the proper ways to do things...and I did so tactfully and without arrogance.
Please do not base your assumptions on the actions of one or two users in a forum or IRC channel...investigate for yourself and substantiate your claims.
120 • @118 (by Adam Williamson on 2007-05-23 22:34:03 GMT from Canada)
...or get a real buildsystem which can support more than one stable release, maybe?
this is the kind of thing new, popular distros like PCLOS need to start looking at *early* or else it will come back to bite them a couple of years down the road.
MDV now has an excellent buildsystem but I won't say it's exactly been smooth sailing, so it's something that you should plan. For info, this is me, from earlier, testing a build of dvdstyler on Cooker and both currently supported stable releases (2007 and 2007 Spring) then uploading it to a different repository in each:
ssh n5
sudo iurt dvdstyler
[output telling me build is successful]
sudo iurt2007.1 dvdstyler
[output telling me build is successful]
sudo iurt2007 dvdstyler
[output telling me build is successful]
exit
cd ~/build/dvdstyler [this is an SVN checkout of http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/dvdstyler/current/]
mdvsys submit [this submits to cooker]
repsys -t 2007.0 --define section=contrib/updates dvdstyler 30012 [to 2007 updates]
repsys -t 2007.1 --define section=contrib/backports dvdstyler 30012 [to 2007 Spring backports]
that's the kind of thing you need to really be able to support multiple releases properly.
iurt is a build bot: it sets up a clean chroot of the required release, installs all BuildRequires specified by the package, and then attempts to build it. http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/Iurt
mdvsys / repsys are submission tools for an SVN-based buildsystem.
121 • pclinuxos attitude (by Jordan on 2007-05-23 23:11:54 GMT from United States)
Post 119: that's a pretty arrogant post "devnet."
122 • RE: 115 (by ladislav on 2007-05-23 23:24:49 GMT from Taiwan)
i dont know why this "page hit ranking" still there when you know that is incorrect!?
There is absolutely nothing incorrect about the page hit ranking; it simply shows how many people visited a certain page on DistroWatch, that's all.
The only incorrect thing is the minds of those people who take the numbers for more than what they are.
123 • Re: Davecs and Devnet (by PCLinuxOSuser on 2007-05-24 00:36:29 GMT from United States)
Thanks!
That clears up the timeline issue for me. You all did an amazing job putting together 2007 in the face of some huge and compounding challenges (hosting, IBiblio, etc.) Updates have always been timely with .94 and previous. Appreciate the clear answers.
124 • PClinuxOS (by rajihammer on 2007-05-24 03:37:43 GMT from United States)
I'm one of those people who questioned the pclos standings in Distro watch. The best advice I got was to give it a try and then judge. So tried it I did, and boy was I not overly impressed. It's a fine distro. And I suspect that the high numbers it is getting is evidence of newcomers to Linux giving it a try and finding it usable. That's a good thing. However, as a 7 year veteran of Linux, I don't mind a little work to make things go, but a newbee certainly does and PCLOS may suit them well. I'm sticking with Fedora.
125 • re: Famelix (by Anonymous on 2007-05-24 03:51:01 GMT from United States)
Are you versed enough in Brazilian copyright law to state for a fact that what Famelix is doing is illegal? Can you prove the fonts were "ripped from Vista" and not original creations or just the msttcore fonts which we all have access to? Can you prove that is the same photograph distributed with Vista and not a derivative?
Unless you have proof, it is just FUD that does more to harm the community than any well intentioned "oh this distro violates such and such copyright of so and so."
126 • PCLinuxOS (by Poindexter on 2007-05-24 05:43:48 GMT from Australia)
I have become a distro junkie. 27 distro's in the last 6 months, the last being PCLinuxOS, but I always come home to Freespire, because it truly does "just work"
127 • RE 112 (by dbrion on 2007-05-24 06:46:52 GMT from France)
I am very sorry but you quoted somethig I already quoted from memory (on must change why does my laptop last... into why does my laptops battery remain usable) : that is not (in the short term) a matter of hardware failure, but a matter of power greedyness.
There are two different issues with Firefox:
a) it can use CP, even when idle (which seems absurd) , thus increasing power consumption, thus making the PC hot, thus wearing out the fans.
b) some versions may be buggy, with mem.leaks (one can see it with top), thus leading to unpleasant things ( as I am not connected, I use Konqueror or lynx, and dropped every suspicious soft by using a tiny swap FS). This has no consequence on the power consumption, but I read about this issue with an UBUlinux firefox...
The cooling of the PC can be controlled in a satisfactory way under Windows (for unethical reasons, I fear); under Linux, it depends on the laptop and on the distr (as there are many laptops, it takes time and money). I read that Suze is interested in power management, that UBUlinux claims to be and I know (and saw, from experience, they worked for me) that Mandriva has been making efforts for more than one year on this issue...
(whatever one must be indulgent : efforts can have strange consequences, as bugs may be temporarily added; I had not that problems with Mandriva {if bought in due time, Mandriva 206 in 2006, with errata lists, and so on}, for my laptops (not my mothers' though some linuxen seem very parasitic oriented) ).
=> When I read 'it is a breeze, it is rock solid, it is sooo beautiful' I wish the writer had used either
a watch, to know how long a mains disconnected laptop can compute on its battery, an AM meter, a thermometer or a datalogger, for a set of representative apps... That would be an innovating, not too subjective (but long and expensive) way of testing, but it might be redundant with some distrs efforts...
The fact that such questions are unanswered in UBUlinux reviews is interesting , in my opinion, in itself...
Thanks for the link...
128 • Firefox and resources (by davecs on 2007-05-24 11:00:04 GMT from United Kingdom)
I use Firefox for one reason only: as a GMail user, some of the extensions really make my e-mailing easier, like clicking on a link to an e-mail address and a window opening for a new post, rather than Thunderbird or KMail. Also putting my contact list down the right, links across the top, and "zebra" striping each line on the list of mails.
If everything else were equal, I would prefer Konqueror. It's less temperamental for a start. Most of the resources it takes are already being used by the KDE system. There does seem to be a project to bring Greasemonkey to Konqueror. It can't happen too soon!
On my old rig, an Athlon 3200+ on an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, running Beryl and FF at once slows things a little. On my lappy which has really fast X700 3D graphics (faster than the FX5200 on the Asus with nvidia drivers) supported natively by xorg, the same combo brings the computer to its knees! Both have 512Mb RAM, which is really all they have in common. My new rig has 2Gb RAM and can support Beryl, Firefox, OpenOffice and SuperKaramba all at once!
On my mum-in-law's old computer (she's now getting my old Asus) Beryl just won't run at all, hardly surprising with SiS630 graphics, However, despite 384Mb RAM, (16Mb Graphics, 368Mb system) Firefox is like wading through treacle, again she uses it for GMail and likes all the extensions.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has been finding FF a little painful lately.
129 • Mandriva layoffs (by voislav on 2007-05-24 18:58:57 GMT from Canada)
It's a bit depressing that just when I thought that Mandriva has turned the corner with its 2007 edittion, something like this happens. It's not the end of the world or anything like it, but just the lack of any communication from the company. We all understand that they are here to make money, but the best way to do this is to keep your users happy. Stuff like this makes me one uneasy user.
130 • Waiting list (by Gary Woodman on 2007-05-25 00:00:13 GMT from Australia)
Ladislav,
I hadn't heard about the waiting list before. There are certainly a lot of distros on it! You have very sensible criteria for adding a project; we all know many projects start off with a blast but soon fizzle out. To keep the waiting list in control, maybe you could create a new category, "expired", and use an aging criterion to expire projects off the waiting list, maybe 2 years for community projects and 6 months for commercial projects.
Just a suggestion to make your wonderful site even better. Many thanks for an interesting and important reference.
Regards
Gary
131 • Ulteo... (by Antoine on 2007-05-25 04:14:47 GMT from Brazil)
What about next DWW talk about current situation of Ulteo? I'm curious about it...
132 • 3 new distros (by Ariszló on 2007-05-25 11:52:44 GMT from Hungary)
I can see you have just added PMagic, Granular & BeaFanatIX:
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
133 • BeaFanatIX (by Fractalguy on 2007-05-25 15:51:56 GMT from United States)
BeaFanatIX is the continuation of BeaTrix, a small Debian based distro. It fits on a pocket CD and is designed for older machines. BeaTrix sported OpenOffice.org etc. that were full sized apps, but only a few - the barest few that would fit into 190MB - that made it a nice walking around CD for firing up while visiting most any machine. At least that is how I used it. I did install it on my main drive for a few weeks back in '05, it worked great. BeaFanatIX (Bea fans) replaced the original "heavy apps" with lighter apps, picking up where Bea left off when its founder fell ill. I'm glad to see the Bea line continuing with us.
134 • Old box, Etch & Dillo... (by Caraibes on 2007-05-25 20:58:01 GMT from Dominican Republic)
Hi all, I am currently on my (very) old box, Celeron 466Mhz, 128megs of ram... Etch runs grat on it, I am now with Fluxbox, writing this comment on Dillo... I must say things look a bit different in Dillo, but all in all, it works fine... Of course, I also have the "real" browsers as well, IceWeasel, Opera, Epiphany... But it's fun to see the web thru the eyes of DIllo...
Etch really rules...
135 • Waiting list (by dbrion on 2007-05-26 09:37:08 GMT from France)
I suggest adding myOS : it is a tiny distr, just meant to show GL without X (one might developp games or surface visualisation on very old PC, and I fear they could be easily ported on phones,...) I know it can be qemulated.
The idea of 130 (considering a distr as expired after an inactivity delay) might be not that good : I do not know whether it takes much more time maintaining (and updating !) than removing it, and perhaps it is better to let the reader choose the expiration delay. (I know of apps which were not upgraded for years, as the commercial society that sold them disappeared, and they reappeared open sourced, and improved slightly....) The death of an idea / shipping list is something difficult to define, and perhaps should be decided by individuals.
136 • Vista ripp-off ... (by Jordan on 2007-05-26 16:58:58 GMT from United States)
Look at the screen shot of "famelix" and then try to
comprehend this nonsense from "anonymous":
125 • re: Famelix (by Anonymous on 2007-05-24 03:51:01 GMT from United States)
Are you versed enough in Brazilian copyright law to state for a fact that what Famelix is doing is illegal? Can you prove the fonts were "ripped from Vista" and not original creations or just the msttcore fonts which we all have access to? Can you prove that is the same photograph distributed with Vista and not a derivative?
Unless you have proof, it is just FUD that does more to harm the community than any well intentioned "oh this distro violates such and such copyright of so and so."
You are a very naive person, "anonymous."
137 • Waiting list - WebKiosks (by chrono13 on 2007-05-27 01:54:08 GMT from United States)
Currently Webconverger is the best Linux WebKiosk.
Having set up several Kiosks myself, I can tell you that the need for decentralized (normal), simple and secure WebKioks for small and medium businesses is huge. Webconverger is the best so far.
Currently WebConverger is Firefox 2, Flash9, and has PDF support.
I would like to see a second version to include Dan's configured for adult content filtering though.
Webconverger should be included in Distrowatch.
138 • Dell Ubuntu (by Andy on 2007-05-27 14:37:39 GMT from United States)
The pigs are flying and the fat lady is singing -
Dell ships new PC with Ubuntu pre-installed
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&
139 • Mandriva is much better than PClinuxOS (by teks on 2007-05-28 01:07:50 GMT from Turkey)
Mandriva Linux is really very good Linux-Distro und much better than PClinuxOS. I don't understand it, why PClinuxOS have in Distrowatch-Tabelle 3. Place ?
It is really a Theater !
140 • PCLOS, Mandriva, Suse (by Robzilla on 2007-05-28 04:23:43 GMT from United States)
I have to say I have used all three. I have not tryed the new release of PCLinuxOS yet. I have tried it before and I have to say there are a lot of things Ilove about it like the look. However, PCLinuxOS was always buggy for me. Sometimes my wireless would work and sometimes it would not. Lets face it if you can't get online you are pretty much dead in the water! All in all a nice distro yet I do not see what it offers more than Mandriva? In fact, Mandriva has always worked well for me. Yes Mandriva Discovery costs a small amount of money but it works very well and you get a month of Mandriva club free. This means you can download powerpack. I just have to say I really think Mandriva gets a bad rap and it is a good product. If I want all free then Suse 10.2 is pretty awesome. Of course in the end if I am running Linux does it matter what distro I am using?
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GALPon MiniNo was a lightweight, Debian-based distribution designed for PCs that are 10 years old (or more), though it's also perfectly usable on modern computers and netbooks. It contains a carefully tuned selection of applications that try to maintain a balance between features, ease of use and speed. IceWM with ROX-Filer and PCManFM provides the desktop. The distribution has full support for three languages (English, Galician and Spanish) and it also comes with "magic icons" - a set of tools that automate repetitive or system tasks (e.g. rotate or resize hundreds of digital images, convert audio or video files into other formats or burn an audio CD with a simple drag & drop).
Status: Discontinued
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