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1 • first (by Have to on 2007-01-01 09:19:22 GMT from United States)
I just have to do it, the very first comment of the year. Anywho, Ulteo is going places that we have not see before in desktop computing. I wish the best of luck to the team.
2 • a good year (by Eric on 2007-01-01 09:49:04 GMT from Canada)
i had an excellent year myself with the linux and BSD experience. 2006 proved to be a very evolutionary stage in my adoption of BSD and enjoying the daily distro tracking fun of the many diverse distros on the renound distrowatch. thanks ladislav for my #1 site on the web hands down, and cheers to my soon to be 100% migration to opensource OS's and software in 2007, aswell as anybody else considering the switch with me. ;)
VIVA LA DISRTOWATCH!!! youve got my full support, respect, and hopes for another upcoming successful year as.... "the best site ever" (rivaling the .torrent protocol in importance to me), lol PEACE!!
3 • HPD analysis (by Suge on 2007-01-01 11:05:23 GMT from United Kingdom)
This kind of analysis is always contentious, but the apparent decline of Knoppix has to be the most misleading item due to the long delay of the latest v5.1, now available. Klaus has explained that he wanted to wait for settling of updates amongst several of the principle apps he incorporates as well as conversion to aufs. Worth waiting for! Expect Knoppices to regain their prominence. Apart from that, Puppy 2.13 (now in beta2) and forthcoming 2.14 can be expected to shoot up the 2007 charts with recent radical innovations to compiling and packaging leading to substantial speed and productivity increases. Any kind of statistical assessment is, as agreed here many times, likely to be problematic in such a dynamic field. Let's hope more folk get the message after Vista appears and see it for what it really is!
4 • Great site ! Driving force of linux movement ! (by Michael on 2007-01-01 11:16:58 GMT from Malaysia)
Well, what else can i say about Distrowatch that others hadn't.
Frankly, I almost never miss a daily glance at distrowatch. It's more than just an obsession with linux. While other sites like Yahoo, Msn, etc cannot be accessed from Malaysia because of the earth quake in Taiwan, distrowatch is still omni-present !
Distrowatch will build a very strong future generation of Linux followers and innovators.
Happy New Year Distrowatch.
Michael
(Malaysia)
5 • Happy New Year (by William on 2007-01-01 11:47:03 GMT from United States)
The previous comment was bang on. DistroWatch is THE driving force behind the Linux/*BSD movement.
Like life, the beauty of DistroWatch is choice.
Thanks to all who keep this site moving at light speed.
6 • Fedora 7 plans - Ubuntu future (by herman on 2007-01-01 12:15:34 GMT from Netherlands)
Fedora 7 coming in three editions ("desktop", "server", "KDE") is a good idea. My feeling is that the Fedora developers crowd is not unaware of the often vocal bloggers that have been telling the world "hey, I left Fedora for Ubuntu". Making a "desktop" cd and a "KDE" cd, along with a server cd will make each installer disk leaner and simpler and that's what a lot of people seem to like. A common complaints in the direction of Fedora is, besides Yum's lack of speed, its huge installer disk. Which is a matter of perception, because whereas Ubuntu needs to take a lot of commonly desired packages off the internet after installing, Fedora has them on the disk. However, perception is crucial in this world - should I say, unfortunately.
Another issue is life cycle - this too has been improved: you can now easily skip a Fedora release.
So it will be 'Fedora desktop' vs. Ubuntu and "KDEdora" vs. Kubuntu. I hope there will be no separate logo for "KDEdora", though. ;) Are Fedora and Ubuntu direct competitors? Yes, and it's good. Going for market share is good, because few developers like to work for only a handful of users. It's crucial for Red Hat too, to see to it that Fedora will not lose users to Ubuntu. Mind share will be market share - conquer (part of) the server market via the desktop: it's what MS did.
Ubuntu still has the buzz and the momentum, so it will likely dominate for some time to come. However, Ubuntu's 'daddy' Debian will be releasing its new Stable and although 'Latest and Greatest' lovers will prefer something edgier, it is easier to install than ever, and it is simply a great and stable operating system. Ubuntu has Dapper as its "Long term support" OS but Debian Etch might increasingly be preferred to Dapper as Ubuntu users find out that they're using 'Debian' anyway.
On the other side, Fedora, OpenSuse, Mandriva a.o. are getting better all the time too. As said above, Fedora will be playing Ubuntu's game; OpenSuse is controversial but the OS works really well; etc.
So I guess, *the* 2007 question is, what will Ubuntu do to stay the 'coolest' distro? Will it keep up when the buzz wears out?
7 • Pleasant New Year's Surprise (by Mark W. Tomlinson on 2007-01-01 12:18:10 GMT from United States)
After a week of increasingly stagnant Linux news sites, I was pleaseantly surprised when I made my daily morning check of DistroWatch and found a brand-new edition of DWW! Ladislav, you made my day.
(Now, which do I download first: the latest Sabayon version or PC-BSD 1.3? Decisions, decisions...)
8 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-01-01 12:51:33 GMT from Sweden)
Happy New Year to all
"Despite slowing growth, the popularity of DistroWatch.com reached all-time high during the year 2006. According to Netcraft.com, it is now the 936th most popular web site on the Internet, which makes DistroWatch one of the highest ranked Linux and open source news sites available today."
Can you feel the power you now have!? :) dont leet us down.
"Oh my God! I haven't any other words to express our gratitude for your HUGE and astonishing donation! Thanks a lot!!!!!"
Gave me tears to my eyes. :)
9 • Happy New Year 2007 !!! (by Caraibes on 2007-01-01 13:16:39 GMT from Dominican Republic)
Hey, Ladislav, I wish you all the best for the New Year, and same to all DW readers !
I wish I had more PC's to try all those distros, as I now settled with 3 of them...
Yes, Dapper on the laptop, #1, no competition, but curiously, I now have Mandriva 2007 on my main box, and it performs better than Blag (especifically for OOo printing, and Mplayer plugins in FF).
Still have Blag & Edubuntu Dapper on other boxes, happy with it...
For this new year, I guess the apparition of MS Vista will be a phenomenon that might shed some light to lighter free alternative OS...
Another interesting year to follow...
10 • No.9 Caraibes (by PenguinGeek on 2007-01-01 15:03:21 GMT from United Kingdom)
Buy yourself a dozen plug-in carrier racks and strip out some old hard discs junked at the roadside, then you only need one PC to test everything!
11 • RE 10 Which road side? (by dbrion on 2007-01-01 15:30:10 GMT from France)
I fear shipping fees would be unrealistic, as well as plugging untested stuff: a more conservative solution would be to buy USB to/from ATA/SATA adapters, and begin qemulating (works OK with a laptop and Mandriva 2006 for legal Win98 emulations) new distrs, till you know it won't break any data...
This solution (it is the same as yours, less provocative) would seem less geeky, and I use it at work (Qemu is functionally replaced by VMplayer, and Mandriva by Microsoft Windows XP [ why do US linuxers think of a Freedom keyboqrd {azert} when they zrite about a rock solid OS]) without fire nor being fired..
By the way, what does EDUbuntu mean? I won't test UBU stuff this year... I will buy Mandriva without DWW carefully designated buttons which I use for potentially dangerous (not fully tested)distrs ....
12 • DistroWatch donation goes to SabayonLinux (by Bernard on 2007-01-01 16:30:53 GMT from United Kingdom)
Congratulations, this is really a good choice and well worth supporting IMO.
On the day to day side though I'll stick to anything slack based, it has proven to be fastest and most efficient and clean. And one Debian Etch, in hommage to an old love.
13 • elive (by ray carter at 2007-01-01 16:41:28 GMT from United States)
Glad to see Elive 'moving'. IMHO it is an excellent distro - one I always recommend that folks with 'older' equipment try.
14 • Importance of DW (by Roy S. on 2007-01-01 17:32:01 GMT from United States)
DW has been an invaluable resource for me personally. It took a long time and a lot of experimenting before I found the distro that suited me best. I still visit daily to make sure I don't miss something new and exciting. Although I am sticking with what I have, I realize that some of the more cutting edge offerings may be better for wooing new users. Last year I helped 3 of my friends and family get started on the road to freedom.
15 • Stats (by Scaramanga II on 2007-01-01 17:59:43 GMT from United States)
I'd take the Alexa figures to be more accurate - Netcraft rankings are based on those using their toolbar, who are generally more technically inclined and thus bias the results. Either way though, very impressive figures. Well done!
16 • sabayon (by random guy at 2007-01-01 19:37:23 GMT from United States)
love sabayon, it ties ubuntu as my favorite distros
17 • Mandriva 007 Flash USB Key -any users ? (by Fotograf on 2007-01-01 20:23:53 GMT from Canada)
can we download and make a USB Key at home ?
or to pay 60$ US is the Only option available ?
18 • LinuxMint (by TheoDreiser on 2007-01-01 20:30:45 GMT from United States)
I want to take this opportunity to congratulate the people who took
Ubuntu and raised it to the next level by making LinuxMint. This is
only the second distro i am aware of that "out of the box "plays dvd movies,wmv files,mp3 files,and has Flash 9 working great.
As for Distrowatch, i can not go a day without visiting it, it's
indispensible.
19 • Good IntelMac distro? (by Andrew on 2007-01-01 21:01:02 GMT from Canada)
Does anyone know of a distro with support for Intel-based iMacs? (Running one w/ Intel Core Duo 1.83 GHz, X1600 ATI Radeon 128 MB, Superdrive, 512 MB RAM, 160GB HD, Airport.) Tried Sabayon, but the sound didn't work and there were "issues" with wireless. I'm hoping that support will be better in the next release, but until then...
20 • 2006 was a good year (by Russell on 2007-01-01 21:08:36 GMT from United States)
Congratulations to Ladislav and DWW for another excellent year of keeping us informed and entertained :) It was a good year for me in the Linux realm, with my distro disks topping 150... I really need some more storage space... Right now I have PCLOS and Mandriva 2007 on my main box, and have installed Xubuntu on some older hardware. For me, PCLOS and Xubuntu seem to work the best "out of the box". Elive has a nice look and concept, but it needs to be cleaned up before it's ready for prime time. I wasn't terribly impressed with Ubuntu, but that was Breezy. I ordered some Dapper disks from them to try out, and if it's improved I may start handing some out to potential converts.
One last comment on the M$/Vista situation: most of the "regular" computer users I know don't even have a clue what's happening with Vista. They are merrily using their 5-6 year old XP Home boxes, and complaining to me when they lock up, die, slow down, etc. The Vista issue has not impacted them yet, and it won't until their newer XP boxes reach end-of-life and they have to upgrade. The ones running the 1.4 gig Celerons with SDRAM will end up with Vista by default when their boxes die and they get their shiny new Dell/Compaq/HP from Wal-Mart, and they won't care as long as it runs and guys like me clean all the malware and virii out of them regularly. I suppose those of us who are system builders could start carrying around fully loaded laptops with Beryl installed and when the masses see the desktop and go "ooh" then we can hit them with the advantages of Linux/BSD. The momentum will have to come from us, cause Joe User doesn't really care. Anyway that's my once-a-year rant. Be well.
21 • Linux on USB key (by Fotograf on 2007-01-02 00:41:56 GMT from Canada)
who knows - which Live Linux (or hdd installed) has an Option to
USB Key installation ? Gimme a hint
22 • Re: 11 (by johncoom on 2007-01-02 01:26:36 GMT from Australia)
dbrion from France wrote "By the way, what does EDUbuntu mean?"
From DW distro description for Edubuntu (think of the word education)
Edubuntu is a partner project of Ubuntu Linux, a distribution suitable for classroom use. The aim is that an educator with limited technical knowledge and skill will be able to set up a computer lab, or establish an on-line learning environment, in an hour or less, and then administer that environment without having to become a fully-fledged Linux geek.
23 • Linux on USB stick/pen drive (by Basilio on 2007-01-02 01:44:42 GMT from Puerto Rico)
Yes, there are several Linux distros with an option to install to USB stick/Pen Drives. They vary from lightweight distros to full blown ones. Just a quick search at Distrowatch can give anyone the clues. About a good MacIntel support, most distros that have had support for the Mac in the past have now or are working on a Mactel release. Ubuntu newest relaease have Mactel support, and many others have including OpenSUSE. Tehy have even a Live CD/DVD version to try before install.
Have a good DW year!!
24 • RE: 21 (by wam on 2007-01-02 03:36:23 GMT from United States)
This works great!
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
25 • RE: 23 (by Andrew on 2007-01-02 03:55:44 GMT from Canada)
Tried Ubuntu - same problems as Sabayon; strange, given all Macs have approximately the same hardware, right? I will try OpenSUSE - I was turned off by the closed nature and lack of packages back when it was still Software Und System Entwicklung, and more recently by The Deal Which Must Not Be Named, but reviews have been good of late. Forgot - also, OpenGL refused to start on Sabayon. Thanks for the help anyhow!
26 • mandriva on a stick (by agendelman on 2007-01-02 04:56:23 GMT from United States)
re 17, 21
ok, ok, Fotograph, you're breaking my heart. Here it is:
http://www.mcnlive.org/
27 • re #21 Linux live on USB memory sticks (by rglk on 2007-01-02 05:05:34 GMT from United States)
I've installed the following Linux distros on USB flash memory drives: Puppy, DSL, Knoppix, ZenLive (use MySlax Creator to install it), slax, MCNLive, PCLinuxOS. They all work well. My favorites are PCLinuxOS and Knoppix, installed on 1 GB thumbdrives. See http://www.pendrivelinux.com for tips on how to install them.
You have to use a live file system when you run a Linux distro from a flash memory drive rather than installing it on the thumbdrive as on a hard drive. You could use a regular hard drive install on the thumbdrive and thus install almost any Linux distro on such a drive but you'd be wearing out the thumbdrive pretty fast because of excessive writes to the drive (each cell of the flash memory can be written to only a limited number of times).
Robert
28 • I am Ready to contribute to DistroWatch (by KaruppuSwamy.T on 2007-01-02 06:31:14 GMT from United States)
I use to visit DW atleast twice or thrice a day. I am interested in Distro release section, reviews on first page and of course this weekly issue. In turn I too want to contribute. What should I do? What are all possible?
I am available at KARUPPUSWAMY AT GMAIL DOT COM
29 • RE 22 : I know what Edubuntuntu _claims_, I do not know what they mean (by dbrion on 2007-01-02 07:59:13 GMT from France)
in early distributing releases, where, from the starting page, I saw blunders (typos, not technicall). The contrast between their claims and an early release might ironically result in a 10 year rejection . I know that, in France, Linux was officially encouraged (for economical results) and that most (at least 80%) of the schools use MICROSOFT WINDOWS, after some careful checks...
RE 17 For Mandriva 60$ USB install, it might be cheaper (or even easier to get by mail) than a 2 Go USB key (and you might be sure it works on both linux and Windows, if you do not like the installed OS and reformat..).
30 • re #!& #21 Linux live on USB memory sticks (by mzee on 2007-01-02 14:29:29 GMT from Belgium)
Fully agree!
ZenLive, slax, MCNLive, PCLinuxOS are really very nice. The best of two worlds : Linux installed on HD and running from LiveCD
In my eyes the best one is MCNLive Cherbourg. Even if your Bios doesn 't allow you to boot from usb-stick you boot from LiveCD with 'fromusb'-option. Then : free CDROM drive. Very fast. Most interesting programmas available. Easy to install new ones if you wish. English default language but French and Dutch also available.
Happy New Year!
31 • tnx for USB Live (by Fotograf on 2007-01-02 23:21:15 GMT from Canada)
ok ok thanks to all who responded - I downloaded all of those and will try them one by one .....starting with MCNLive - because my
Abit NF7 Mobo doesnot support USB boot......
32 • yeah right (by eternal on 2007-01-02 23:21:50 GMT from Croatia)
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
instructions given on that page tells you how to make bootable usb linux key on a windows machine.
so, i would have to use windows to make a bootable linux usb key.
yeah right. i don't use windows at all.
33 • MCN keyboard (by dbrion on 2007-01-02 23:41:44 GMT from France)
If you want to show a brand new USB Linux to French speaking ppl in order to convince to switch to GNU/linux (they may be very serious with French -from {a}sad experience of French engineers who spoke a mixture of English and French and went to Quebec; {b} if I want a good technical English to French dictionary, it is likely to be made by Quebec universities...) they might have a keyboard problem (see Alixe). If they begin with Linux, and type any text to try, they will laugh and keep Windows....
For ppl who have a French Keyboard, unless MCN changed since #nov 2006, it is more amusing: as the keyboard is Belgian, one can type some text but Bash/{Perl..} scripting will become highly unpleasant... I know it can be fixed (especially on an USB key...) but MICROSOFT DOS had fixed this trivial hardware detection problem in the late 1980.s..
I tried mcn late november, but it was so Mandriva-like I did not keep it.....
34 • RE: Good IntelMac distro? (by Amit on 2007-01-02 23:59:03 GMT from United States)
SimplyMEPIS supports the latest Intel Macs. Check it out.
35 • Summary of expected upcoming releases (by Seveners on 2007-01-03 02:29:35 GMT from Satellite Provider)
Why my favorite distro's, Slackware, never listed on upcoming releases...
hehehe, just joking :-)
36 • re #32: Linux live on a USB memory stick (by rglk on 2007-01-03 05:05:54 GMT from United States)
eternal wrote:
"... instructions given on that page tells you how to make bootable usb linux key on a windows machine. ..."
It turns out that the most reliable and least troublesome method of installing Linux on a USB thumbdrive is to do it from within Windows XP, using a FAT32 file system and generally following the tips on www.pendrivelinux.com. It can also be done entirely from within Linux, e.g. using an ext2 or ext3 filesystem, but many people have had less success with that than in doing it from within Windows with FAT32.
Using a FAT32 file system on the thumbdrive also has the advantage that any unused space on the thumbdrive can be used to set up a persistent home directory holding the system configuration as well as non-system and personal files that can then also be read and written to from within Linux, Windows and Mac OSX.
Almost everyone has access to a Windows system, and it takes only 30-60 min to install the Linux distro on the thumbdrive. After that you're free of Windows.
If you absolutely don't want to touch Windows, you may be more limited in which distros you can install easily and reliably, without tearing out your hair or possibly ruining your thumbdrive. MCNLive and slax certainly can be installed without booting into Windows, and I'm sure DSL and Puppy can so too. You'd have to go to their respective websites for install instructions.
If your BIOS doesn't support booting from USB devices, then most of the Linux distros mentioned here won't run, or at least not without additional tricks. One way to get that to work is by kickstarting the boot process from the live CD and then run the distro entirely from the thumbdrive which obviously runs much faster. MCNLive is set up to do that, and I also got ZenLive to work in that way.
One feature that I've found to be essential for any Linux distro on a USB drive to be useful, is to have provision, in extra space on the thumbdrive, e.g. on a separate partition, for storing the system configuration and for additional files or additional software. Knoppix and slax handle that fairly well. MCNLive Leuven v.2, as nice as it is, didn't have that capability; perhaps it's been included in their current version, MCNLive Cherbourg.
Robert
37 • Summary of the Year 2006: (by nedvis on 2007-01-03 05:59:16 GMT from United States)
a- Last year I've probably made at least 1000 hits at DW.com from either my five Linux/BSD computers at home or PC at work.
b-I managed to conver 5 ( formerly Windows98/ME) computers to Linux
c-After testing at least 20 distribution last year the longest lasting one is PCLinuxOS 0.92b with nVIDIA kernel module which is my favourite one ( continuously running since end of June 2006.)
d-I managed to get Linux Master Certificate at expers-exchange.com for
helping people with their Linux boxes and scored #13 in Linux Setup (overall) category and #7 in Linux ( for the year 2006.) . Not too bad for an Linux enthousiast/hobbist as I am.
e-Besides PCLinuxOS a PCBSD 1.2 was most pleasant discovery to me in
2006 and now it's PCBSD 1.3 . ( Is prefix "PC" in distribution name proof of hight quality? I don't know but it turn to be true. )
f-This year I'm going to convert three or four more computers at work to Linux/PCBSD. One is already serving our church children's center WEB site ( and old Dell 600 MHz Pentium III runing Mandrica 2006 )
g-I'm finally about to get my LPI certification ( currently reading brilliant O'reilly's "LPI Linux Certification In Nutshell" )
h-I'm small distros hunter and I'm so happy finding there are growing development forces not only behind big Linux names.
Does this all sounds like a programatic behaviour? I don't know but
I sort of like this kind of infestation!
Happy New Year to all you Linux adicts !
nedvis
38 • Elive - Just a note for Elive, Enlightenment (by Angel_Fr@gzill@ on 2007-01-03 08:08:39 GMT from Belgium)
Elive - Just a note for the Elive developpers !
Congratulations for the Distro, is excellent and different ot the average... Obne of my very favourites!
I have read in the Elive site that you are going to use KDE for next versions, even using Enlightenment as windows manager.
Well I am not sure of what you intend, by it may be a mistake, and will be similar, maybe to other Debian/KDE distros...
What is Elive appealing for is just because of its originality and difference. It is because the use of Enlightenment that give Elive its special Charm...
Also because its light and quick. The fact that now there are more memory available for PCs is not a justification to include heavy artillery , as KDE. You have a 'niche' market in Linux and you rick of spoiling and loosing it...
Also, want to point out that the last version of the Distro, Elive 0.6 apparently has a problem.
I have downloaded it twice via Torrent and the md5 I found in a ftp server tells me that the ISO is not right.
On the other hand there is not way to verify the ISO with a md5 from the Elive Web Site (the Link is broken...)
Please, if you read it try to consider all this...
Angel_Fr@gzill@
39 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2007-01-03 12:55:59 GMT from Sweden)
re #32
read #36 then see this links for additional information
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Small_Footprint_Gentoo_on_USB
http://dynebolic.org/ (??? sitedown ???)
use this instead http://freshmeat.net/projects/dynebolic/
and this for more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynebolic
re #38
I have no problem what so ever with v.06_revolution
the .md5 can be found here http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03931#0
and I agree with you its a nice small footprint distro and nothing will change that http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/46.html , to merge with KDE was a joke.
Im now using Pardus linux and loving it,
cons is that there isnt that many packages ready, (that means for example no Gnome)
pros, faster package manager then .deb
useful site for people wanting to try it out http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/
40 • Comment 36 why FAT32? (by dbrion on 2007-01-03 15:43:23 GMT from France)
This is a very primitive filesystem (no links, some misunderstandings on permissions) limited to 2Go AFAIK : system archives (use tar eg to save) are likely to be cut... (it will be tempting if 4 Go USB flash disksare avalaible)
Self made External HD drives are economically more interesting (the Go is 30 times cheaper from the market price in my town, allthat with new stuff - I maintain Mandriva USB friends estonishing key is a bargain- ). They are ligt enough to be carried, big enough not to be lost. The only pb is power supply...
41 • My thoughts and feelings... (by Malakai on 2007-01-03 18:24:00 GMT from Canada)
First off, kudos to everyone at Distrowatch for maintaining my number 1 website... like a good credit card, I never surf without it. ;)
I firmly believe 2007 is going to open some eyes for a lot of people both inside and outside (we're coming for you...) the linux world. This should also be a pinnacle year for linux for one big reason... Windows. Vista is going to be released, and it's already very clear that hardware specs and requirements to even load the "Aero" effects are enormous, and if you can actually load it, you can sit and watch half your system resources go down the toilet in one flush. However, it goes far beyond that.
I've been stuck in the Windows world starting all the way from 3.11 for Workgroups, so I've seen a lot in my time, and while there were positives, they are overshadowed by an obvious track record of insecurity, instability and incompetence by Microsoft. I'm sorry, but an OS should not have to be reinstalled because its very core (in the case of Windows) becomes corrupted from everyday use and installation/un-installation of programs. The windows registry has the security of swiss cheese, and the stability of someone standing on a greased exercise ball. I've had to reinstall windows OS's countless times simply from corruption, and I'm not talking about viruses/spyware and the like, just using the system. Vista's core will still be the registry, and thus will still suffer from the same problems, despite MS's claims that they are clamping down on that, which I'm not buying for a minute. The registry is only part of the issue, which along with the obvious malicious software issues, DLL issues and dependancies, and security so many programs tied to the OS itself.
I still boot to windows for games, and other programs that I still need access to, but other than that, it's Linux all the way. It's a great feeling to know that there is another choice, and that's really what Linux is all about. Yes, it's stable and secure, yes, it can run on a variety of hardware (old and new), and yes, it's free/cheap. Those are all moot points IMO. Linux is choice, plain and simple. And I for one am glad I made my choice.
What distro's am I using? I have a multi-boot system right now with my Windows install, PCLOS, Debian and Mandriva 2007. Will I still be using those 6 months from now? Maybe, maybe not. I would like to try Arch and/or Gentoo, but I don't like the idea of distros where you seemingly (from reading on forums) spend more time configuring and setting up everything that should be installed by default, and then maintaining it all, than you actually do using the system. To me, that seems like too much work for little payoff (yes, they claim to be faster, but is there really THAT much of a difference?). I've had to do that too much in the Windows world, and to me that feels torturous. If anybody has thoughts to the contrary feel free to fire away.
All that being said, I can't wait to see Linux move up and take pot shots at the MS Juggernaut. Bring some popcorn, cause it's gonna be entertaining... ;)
42 • re #41 (by Eric on 2007-01-03 21:20:56 GMT from Canada)
give arch a try, it is much simpler to get going than gentoo, i have tried both, aswell as sabayon and sabayon even seemed slow to me.... i'll root for arch 100%, but maybe wait until its 0.8 Voodoo release to make sure everything gets rounded off.
enjoy arch as i have, but atm i'm running PC-BSD 1.3 and i must say im impressed, good luck
43 • Re #38 & 39 (by Andrew on 2007-01-03 22:19:06 GMT from New Zealand)
I agree with the comments about Elive.
Elive is a great distro, if they move from Enlightenment then it becomes just another distro - debian with Kde. I notice a few days ago that Debian are releasing a version with Kde, what will the difference be? Elive is not only good for PC's with old hardware it's starting to do well on new hardware also. I don't know why Enlightenment is ignored by other distros. The main ones seem to be Kde, Gnome, XFCE and Fluxbox. I believe Enlightenment has more to offer. The reasons for Elive to use Kde doen't add up to me. I would like them to give more of a reason. Please explain Elive?
44 • Elive Joke • Re #43 (by Ariszló on 2007-01-03 23:33:27 GMT from Hungary)
Don't worry. It was just a joke:
http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/News/_articles/47.html
45 • Sabayon md5sum (by Woody Ochs on 2007-01-04 00:33:03 GMT from United States)
I can't seem to get an md5sum match vis-a-vis the Sabayon 3.25 image which the VT HTTP Mirror transmits and the checksum which it displays. Has anyone else noticed this?
46 • DW header - title (by Today Anonymous on 2007-01-04 07:41:01 GMT from Australia)
Dear Ladislav
I think you have put the wrong thing in your html header code for Title
At present you have = Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux. BSD.
From reading the a lot of the comments that end up here I think it should be changed ?
To some thing like = Distro hoppers delight, a new distro each week, Hop Linux, BSD.
47 • Re: 45 Sabayon md5sum (by johncoom on 2007-01-04 08:05:56 GMT from Australia)
Well perhaps this has got some thing to do with it ?
For the SabayonLinux-x86-3.25c.iso - the ....3.25c.iso md5 file shows
5bd23c813e19b777d1b50d6c5f5d934f SabayonLinux-x86-3.25.iso
For the SabayonLinux-x86_64-3.25c.iso - the .....3.25c.md5 file shows
c2c0bec320e850240c22e1fbf7c2a122 SabayonLinux-x86_64-3.25.iso
NOTICE the md5sums do not seem to be for the "3.25c" issue but for "3.25"
:-(
48 • Re: 45 Sabayon md5sum (by johncoom on 2007-01-04 08:20:41 GMT from Australia)
From the other DOT dot mirror - the md5sums are different and for 3.25c issue
cf7bd7513bc01ccd3b87e3088a92d913 SabayonLinux-x86-3.25c.iso
6be2ea8175b72463005f4c3e1869c38b SabayonLinux-x86_64-3.25c.iso
I had a hell of a job getting them - see if those match your downloaded ISO ?
:-)
49 • Down with Windoaz! Down with Mac! Down with Linux! (by iAintRobot!! on 2007-01-04 08:30:01 GMT from Canada)
DOWN WITH WINDOAZ, DOWN WITH MAC, DOWN WITH LINUX!!
Relax folks :)
Although the above-stated slogans reflect the true feelings i hold for those OpSystems, they're not meant to offend anybody. They, rather are meant to provoke you into thinking and read my post attentively.
Have you heard of a a RedHat-based operating system called Sugar???
Here's a very interesting news i found on BBC's website, which motivated me to post this message today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6224183.stm
Nicholas Negroponte, the pioneer behind the One Laptop Per Child project is quoted as saying the following:
"One of the saddest but most common conditions in elementary school computer labs (when they exist in the developing world), is the children are being trained to use Word, Excel and PowerPoint".
And he goes on and add the following crucial remarks:
"I consider that criminal, because children should be making things, communicating, exploring, sharing, not running office automation tools"
What Negroponte says matters because he's the brain behind One Laptop Per Child, one of the most important projects of our times. More importantly, he's a scientist and founder of the world renowned Media Lab at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The mission for Negroponte is all about eliminating poverty with education." It's not a lap top project it’s an education project," he says.
That's why it matters what Negroponte says.
One Laptop Per Child project is not only a good technological deed for for developing world's children, but it also --perhaps more importantly-- runs on a RedHat-based operating system called Sugar --- and it very much reflects Negroponte's above-mentioned statement that it's wrong, it's a crime to train and force children (or anybody who uses a computer) to memorize, instead of exploring, learning and creating in order to operate a computer.
It's about time that start realizing that MsWindws. Mac, Linux and all other existing operating systems, are rather designed to impede creativity, and preventing the users to become more creative. From a logical point of view they all, more or less, are the same.
And sorry that Linux (as it's known) isn't an exception. The only considerable difference between Linux and Mac and Windows is a negative one --- that Linux is the ugliest, the user unfriendliest and resource hungriest of the trio. But, please, don't respond and try to argue about this particular argument i just made. Because this isn't really what i'm hoping to generate and have people discuss about it. Plus, i have my share of hatred for Windows and Mac, like many of you. Thus, there's no point to argue about Linux vs Window and Mac, etc. Let's rather debate about Negroponte's statement and what it means and it's implications. And let's download Sugar to study and tinker with it and then share our observations and thoughts.
I strongly believe this new OS, Sugar, has, potentially, very positive implications for the future direction of Linux in general and all other operating systems in particular. Perhaps, we eventually will discover that Sugar is a technological version of god-sent messiah we need in order to, finally, defeat Windowz for once and all.
Let's welcome the opinion of all those who honestly think that it's about time we question KDE, Gnome, and other GUis that makes what's Linux today: user-unfriendly, ugly and increasingly power-hungry. If we, as computer enthusiasts really want to do our part of work contributing to humanity's development for a brighter future, than we have to question and criticize Linux, just like we do criticize Windows and Mac. Whether it's Windows, Mac or Linux -- it doesn't refute the fact that they all are developed by a bunch of nerds, led by three pathetic man; Bill Gate, Steve Jobs and Linus Torvalds. Why should we waste our prescious memory and time to learn applications, which reflect the limations of the above-mentioned nerds and their ilk. We shouldn't allow others to limit our creativity and vision marching toward a bright a peaceful future. We shouldn't allow others to treat us like we're robots, whose creativity and movements are limited, for they're programmed by a human being.
I very much hope that Ladislav will start playing an active and leading role in this debate about Sugar OS and it's implications. I hope he will bring all relevant people together--including Negroponte. For example, an interview with him on the DW Watch's pages would be an excellent start. Similarly, after an in-depth research, reserving a permanent space on an important corner of DistroWatch for Sugar would be a great contribution. Likewise, i hope he reserves a special corner, always visible, for Sugar on DW. I look forward to your replies and hope Ladislav will keep my posting on the front page for several weeks, so as to make sure that nobody miss this great debate :)
50 • Re: #49 (by linbetwin on 2007-01-04 09:56:05 GMT from Romania)
... and that concludes our international moment of Zen for this week's comments section. Just don't forget that sugar makes you fat, even if you spend a lot of energy reinventing the wheel.
51 • RE49 Men aint Hindu goddesses (by dbrion on 2007-01-04 11:24:54 GMT from France)
with many heads... See DW 200605xx (from memory) and Elektor (free contents, photos of Koffee Annan and "La Manivelle" in Tunis..)..
It is a 386 based PC, with a quite innovating LCD screen, an rock solid keyboard and a reliable power supply. However, I do not see how it could be upgraded with a flsh disk.
The structure is somewhat between classical PCs and embedded (mobile phones work on GNU/linuw).
Serious entiteies, such as Microsoft and Redhat, were /are interested in it.
I think there shall be no (/ very few) language blunders, but it might take time.
I found VMplayable or Qemulatable files, but in a beta version (my keyboard does not support Greek.)...
You should not tell KDE/Microsoft Windows/ Gnome are ugly: as many ppl put photos they took during their Holy Days, .it would mean that any place in the world is ugly....
52 • Dreamlinux 2.2 is OUT! (by kanishka on 2007-01-04 23:23:03 GMT from Italy)
Nobody noticed that Dreamlinux 2.2 is out and ready for download?
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/download.html
53 • RE: 52 Dreamlinux 2.2 is OUT! (by ladislav on 2007-01-04 23:27:51 GMT from Taiwan)
Good luck with downloading it! With the speed I am getting at the moment, it will take me more than a day to download the CD! And once it's on the front page of DW, it will only get worse....
54 • RE: 52 Dreamlinux 2.2 is OUT! (by kanishka on 2007-01-04 23:33:42 GMT from Italy)
Haha you're right! I tried with my DSL and couldn't get more than 12 Kb/sec... Waiting for Linuxtracker! ^ ^
55 • LinuxConsole 1.0 is out, too (by Ariszló on 2007-01-05 00:03:54 GMT from Hungary)
linuxconsole1.0.76-cd.iso was released on January 2:
http://www.linuxconsole.org/1.0/iso/
There are also some broken links at
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linuxconsole
User Forums should point to http://www.linuxconsole.org/forumen/ (or http://www.linuxconsole.org/forumfr/),
Documentation to http://www.linuxconsole.org/wikien/doku.php (or http://www.linuxconsole.org/wikifr/doku.php),
and Download Mirrors to http://www.linuxconsole.org/1.0/iso/
56 • LG3D (by Tazix on 2007-01-05 18:46:20 GMT from United States)
Anybody try the latest LG3D?
Last time I tried it, it ran like a modern game on a budget 3D card... "stutter city"... And I have a fairly high end system / video card.
57 • DreamLinux (by wam on 2007-01-05 19:37:45 GMT from United States)
It looks sooooo sweet. Its going to take almost 2 days to download! Anyone know of a faster link?
58 • Re: 56 • LG3D (by Ariszló on 2007-01-05 19:48:21 GMT from Hungary)
I have not tried the latest live cd yet but the "Linux x86 Mega Bundle" is cool: https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/binary-builds.html
59 • lg3d (by ray carter at 2007-01-05 21:56:28 GMT from United States)
I note on DWs ld3d page a note that this can be run from a 256mb flash memory device. Anyone have any info on how to do this? I've been to their page and don't find much info.
60 • fedora on ppc ibook g4 (by robzilla on 2007-01-06 02:54:02 GMT from United States)
I am trying to install linux on my mac. I love linux and would like to use it on my ibook. I am thinking of trying fedora. I am wondering if anyone has tryed to install linux on an iBook g4 1.42ghz computer? Any thoughts, hints, suggestions would be great.
Thanks,
R
61 • olpc and elive (by dbrion on 2007-01-06 09:50:13 GMT from France)
Images for OLPC can be found (and hints for emulation) for instance in :
http://berrange.com/personal/diary/2006/02/running-olpc-within-vmware-player
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_images_for_emulation#VMware_Player
Sugar is not an OS, but a gui (from the start , I saw a kernel 18 claim under VMplayer running under Wicrosoft Windows. I doubt the emulation was cheated...).
I took me 4 days to download Elive from a cybercafé (one should not use credit cards in cybercafés,even antiviruses). It was worth the time, as it converges towards OLPC use of mice (as one goes one the East or West side, new desktops arise). I think the OLPC sugar behavior will be fully imitated ( Nprth and South will be added to descover other icons)=> this is NOT a bug...
Elive has qemu installed (which can be called many times from the same system; it differs in that side of the free version of VMplayer). Elive can thus emulate herself and it is the actual demo. I think the new release will add preconfigured images of OLPC, and of two KDE installed Linuxes, one with KDE full installed and a system with customised KDE (in a minimalist way : no OO, many Konsoles to follow top memory prints.) and many other amusing things: it is planned for Apr 2nd. As isos will be greater, it might be tested in May..
62 • search for gnome on Distrowatch (by Anonymous on 2007-01-06 17:39:07 GMT from Germany)
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=libgnome&pkgver=2.16.0#pkgsearch
i dont get an result when i search on distrowatch for gnome. but for kde yes. is it here against gnome and for kde?
63 • Re: search for gnome on Distrowatch (by Ariszló on 2007-01-06 18:55:36 GMT from Hungary)
How about this:
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?desktop=GNOME&status=Active
64 • Distrowatch Weekly Podcast (by Everett Attebury on 2007-01-07 03:28:34 GMT from United States)
I used to subscribe to the podcast with Amarok, but lately I keep getting a 403 permission error when I try to download them. Anyone else having this problem?
65 • Re: search for gnome on Distrowatch (by Anonymous on 2007-01-07 13:16:04 GMT from Germany)
ok, now today i get a result for gnome with: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=libgnome&pkgver=2.16.0#pkgsearch
i dont know why i didnt get it last times:(
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