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1 • Commercial Distros: More Steak, Less Sizzle (by Roach Boy on 2006-06-19 09:29:59 GMT from Nairobi, Kenya)
Sorry people. This is a rant and it probably has got nothing to do with this week’s Distrowatch Weekly. Anyway, I’m still trying to figure out why Red Hat is considered the flagship for GNU/Linux in IT departments around the world. Just this morning, my mouse went haywire on me while I was using Red Hat Enterprise version 4.0 Work Station (Gnome 2.8) and I’ve had all sorts of other problems with Red Hat (and CentOS, which is compiled from Red Hat source code), problems that I don’t experience with other distros (mainly Debian and Slackware). As someone observed rhetorically on Linuxquestions.org with regard to Red Hat Enterprise version 3.0, “This is enterprise software?”
For my money, Debian and Slackware seem to be much more reliable than the “enterprise” Linux distros such as Red Hat, SUSE and Mandriva. Perhaps I'm being a little unfair, but it seems to me that distros like Red Hat are more a triumph for the marketing department than for the software department. In fact, if someone were interested in trying out Linux, I’d be more comfortable starting them out with Debian or a Debian derivative such as Mepis, Knoppix, or Kanotix (I had a hard time with Ubuntu 4.10; but I plan to try out Ubuntu 6.06) or Slackware.
If Debian and Slackware can do it, I don’t understand why companies with millions of dollars in backing can’t turn out equally reliable products. Of course, the likes of Red Hat, Novell and Mandriva are important to the open source community, but we need software that works reliably, not more marketing hype. Please give us more steak and less sizzle!
Giving-Credit-Where-Credit’s-Due Department. In my opinion, Mandriva and SUSE have got the right idea with supermounting/submounting of floppies a la Windows. It would be nice if Debian and Slackware offered kernels with supermount compiled in rather than requiring users to compile their own kernels. And if you don’t want to supermount your floppies for whatever reason, you could just edit `/etc/fstab’ accordingly. Or maybe I should just remaster my own Slackware/Debian CDs and quit bitching!
2 • klik on small distros (by brodders on 2006-06-19 09:53:39 GMT from Horley, United Kingdom)
Interesting reading about Frenzy!
Sounds like it is a contender for the small, powerful'n fast crowd like Puppy and DSL.
:) But I'me getting too used to using klik on Kanotix; very very nice.
Anyone know if any of the small distro's support klik??
3 • Bummer (by Nick on 2006-06-19 09:57:02 GMT from Wichita, United States)
I missed the package round up. How could this have happened? Oh, I was on vacation. Bummer.
I wish they would have added XGL and Compwiz.
4 • Wonderful Website - thanks Ladislav (by Bill Savoie on 2006-06-19 09:57:40 GMT from Huntsville, United States)
Linux offers so much, it is hard to keep up. This website really helps me. I love the ipod section on the home page. I download all of the podcasts to my laptop on the weekends, and then at work, where I am not allowed internet access, I listen in my office. It is a great way to learn. Thank you. Here in America we are managed, fed information to keep us happy no matter what is going on around us. In this environment, podcasts offer a way out.
Maybe the real future of linux, is not in the struggle with Microsoft, but with the struggle of media outlets to mold us into good consummers, and to make us into people that can do what we are told. Without Linux we just become a predictable population that can be easily managed?
Where I work they only allows company computers with Microsoft OS, as they see Linux as being spywear. We don't have admin passwords for our desktops. Twice a week in the middle of the day everyone must leave the labratory for two hours while virus scans are run on all the computers! That is 4 hours a week where 50 people don't have access to their computers! We are shooting ourselves in the foot. Because of lack of office space, my office is outside the lab. Because of that gift I can bring in my laptop! We live in interesting times. Buddha told us to be an island. I like being an island with linux! Thanks Ladislav!
5 • slackware kernel (by Andreas on 2006-06-19 10:02:22 GMT from Stadtwald, Germany)
changelog entry from 24.04:
BTW, I think 2.6.16.x, being the first kernel series in the 2.6 series that
has been promised some long-lived support, will be the 2.6 kernel you'll see
in the next Slackware release. If/when 2.6.17 (or 18, etc.) come out, don't
expect to see me chasing after it immediately. I'm looking for a kernel
that can be counted on for stability -- not the bleeding edge. Of course,
once 2.6.16.x is considered tested enough to leave /testing (and it does
seem close), perhaps a newer kernel might take its place here just for fun.
Oh and yes -- I did see that 2.6.16.10 is out, and I know that the test26.s
kernel wasn't yet updated. Due to the Mozilla situation, I can't delay this
update to be a $SUCKER some more, but you'll see 2.6.16.10 soon. That is,
if there isn't a newer one first...
current testing kernel is 2.6.16.20; it will probably moved from there just before the release.
regards,
Andreas
6 • Tao Linux (by HughesJR on 2006-06-19 11:13:24 GMT from Corpus Christi, United States)
The CentOS Project has also published an article on the retirement of Tao Linux.
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=135
Tao Linux and CentOS have long had a very good relationship and have worked together to solve issues since both project's foundings (CentOS has hosted the bugs database for Tao Linux for quite a while as an example).
David Parsley has been added as a CentOS Developer and Tao Linux users should be able to seamlessly shift to CentOS with the tools David has developed and released in his shifting repository.
The CentOS Project would like to thank David for Tao Linux and for his decision to join the CentOS Developement Team.
7 • Frenzy 1.0 extended (by mzee on 2006-06-19 11:31:38 GMT from Gent, Belgium)
Thank you for providing that comparison of BSD live CDs.
After testing / playing with Frenzy 1.0 for almost two weeks now I am not sure I agree with : "My overall impression was that BSD live CDs are not on par (yet) with their GNU/Linux cousins". Frenzy provides all I want from a Linux distribution. And then that 'ports' system is so easy to install any programs you feel are missing.
In my eyes Frenzy is not only "a security/rescue tool for administrators" Even newbies to FreeBSD may feel happy with the choice of programs provided. That why I don't agree with "Sergei Mozhaisky would consider developing a less specialized 700MB version of his distro." 'Frenzy 1.0 extended' is just OK! Sergei Mozhaisky given us a very nice piece of work!!
8 • Ubuntu (by tom on 2006-06-19 11:45:36 GMT from La Junta, United States)
FYI:
The most recent Ubuntu upgrade has serriously broken my system.
I upgraded from Dapper testing to LTS and now it looks like I will need to re-install and restore (data) from backup. I am not sure if the problem has been solved.
There are a number of simmilar reports on the Ubuntu site, but no posted solution yet.
I thought you all might like to know and hopefully I can save you some time/aggrivation. Check the website before you update, or even better ? wait untill the problem is solved.
9 • No subject (by user on 2006-06-19 12:09:44 GMT from Tirana, Albania)
Netbsd live cd?
Never heard before but I am interested to read a review about this live cd version.
10 • Roach Boy is Right (by Anonymous Brat on 2006-06-19 12:20:39 GMT from Houston, United States)
Great comment Roach Boy!. The only commercial linux that comes close to being perfect is OpenSuSE 10.1. But I would prefer a Knoppix or a DSL any day given the choice to use them.
11 • Too few distros... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2006-06-19 12:56:30 GMT from Roma, Italy)
...support x86_64.
I just used the "Search by Distribution Criteria" feature and I found "only" 45 active distros supporting it, versus a total of 369.
Let'us also consider that some of the ones listed still consider x86_64 a second class arch (that is unfortunately true also of my favourite Kanotix)
Now that is clearly wrong. True, I suppose the great majority of PCs in the world are still 32bit.
But that is changing very fast. All the new AMD based PCs and, in the near future, the majority of Intel based ones, will be 64bit.
If you buy a new computer today, what do you buy, something which will soon be obsolete? (Unless of course you are on a tight budget)
12 • Slackware 11.0 (by William Poetra Yoga H. on 2006-06-19 13:43:23 GMT from Beijing, China)
It's surely been quite some time since the last Slackware release. I can understand Pat's hesitation to move to 2.6 though, but I also heard that 2.6.16 has a lot of upgrades in it (I'm currently still using 2.6.15.7), so I'll get it when it stabilizes :)
By the way, is it OK to promote my own distro here? :p
Get nags from ftp://wpyh.dyndns.org/
"nags" stands for... well... erm...
13 • Package choices show favor to desktop apps. (by Dave Thacker on 2006-06-19 14:14:28 GMT from Omaha, United States)
With the exception of XEN, the 2006 package choices seem to show more a
bias towards the desktop, rather than the heavy lifting linux does in the server room. Video drivers, camera and photo utilities are replacing load balancers (ldirectord) and web server stat reporting (webalizer). To me this indicates an interesting shift in the "state of the Distrowatch audience". Thanks Ladislav for another informative week!
Dave
14 • Frenzy 0.3 vs. Frenzy 1.0 'extended' (by Andrei on 2006-06-19 14:33:27 GMT from Tampa, United States)
mzee - I did indicate in my review that Frenzy 0.3 was *already* the best BSD live-CD I had tested even though I had the older verison 0.3 and not the new 1.0.
Please note that I said that "*overall* the live-CDs I had tested were not on par (yet)".
I fully agree with you that even Frenzy 0.3 already *was* on par with most of the GNU/Linux live-CDs (and better than many I would add!) and I am planning a separate review of Frenzy 1.0 as soon as I can get my hands on the CD.
Keep watching for it on distrowatch!
Kind regards,
Andrei
15 • XGL + Compiz (by morgan on 2006-06-19 15:17:28 GMT from Brighton, United Kingdom)
Please add XGL and compiz to the package DB.!
Cheers
16 • VLOS VLOS VLOS (by RobNyc on 2006-06-19 15:39:51 GMT from Flushing, United States)
VLOS 1.3 is so hot
17 • Live BSD's (by Rob.B on 2006-06-19 16:41:21 GMT from Reading, United Kingdom)
I've tried the recently released Frenzy live cd and agree it's very well put together. It has a live slackware (eg Vector) kind of 'feel' to it. Sadly, I couldn't get it to auto dhcp to my b/b connection and manual tweaking didn't work for me either.. Maybe knoppix type network config would help.
A little off topic, but I'd like to see the otherwise great plethera of live slack distributions use workable hdd installers i.e. GRUB based would be in keeping with this young century! ;-P
For now I will work with Xubuntu.. ;-)
18 • Sources.list generator for Ubuntu (by Stefan Daniel Schwarz on 2006-06-19 17:02:54 GMT from Mettmann, Germany)
There's also a Sources.list generator for Ubuntu available here:
http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
And of course you can always install and use Klik, too!
19 • Libranet (by Markus on 2006-06-19 18:11:24 GMT from Bochum, Germany)
Dear Ladislav,
why don't You mention the discontinued distro
Libranet and move it to Your "discontinued site"?
best regards to the other side of the globe.
Markus
20 • What's not marketing (by Béranger on 2006-06-19 20:22:28 GMT from Bucuresti, Romania)
To #1: "why Red Hat is considered the flagship for GNU/Linux" -- because they pay some of GNOME developers and because some (network) tools are made by them.
And no, RHEL3 is not that bad. I can only judge by CentOS4, which is rather stable, albeit maybe not as much as Debian Sarge.
*mounting of floppies is not an issue. Plus: even in Debian Sarge, the 2.6 kernel will mount removable devices (incl. USB) via udev. Slackware... this is not a distro that will give you fries with everything.
To #16: VLOS 1.3? Is is still by torrents only? (Or you can buy it, but how d'ya know what you'll buy unless you try it?) What about extra repositories? It's not clear what it offers, no matter how good it is. Should those guys change theie atitude, they should be able to compete at least with Frugalware.
# BU 4.6: a little late. 4.5 was on the wait list for ages. (There are distros on the waiting list since 2003!)
Otherwise, DistroWatch is a royal pleasure, and DistroWatch Weekly is a real joy to read -- thank you, Ladislav!
21 • SimplyMEPIS 6.0. RC1 (by Anonymous on 2006-06-19 21:44:59 GMT from Honolulu, United States)
SimplyMEPIS 6.0. RC1 seems more polished than Kubuntu 6.06, and you can log in as root. It has the most sensible installer of the linux's that I've tried so far.
22 • Kanotix and Blag (by mika hack on 2006-06-19 22:02:44 GMT from Roma, Italy)
I use both....
give them a try!!!
;)
23 • Ubutnu envy? (by azbaer on 2006-06-19 23:52:21 GMT from Phoenix, United States)
I dont know why all the Ubuntu bashing, except that they are ranked number one. Yes I use Ubuntu 6.06,for the most part eveything worked out of the "box".
Red Hat is the most popular by name, if you are luck enough to encounter Linux, (in the USA) it will be Red Hat. Actually I m surprise on how often Red Hat is mentioned on stock exchange programs.
Who cares what flavor you use, Your using LInux is all that matters.
24 • to #16 (by Kensai on 2006-06-19 23:54:56 GMT from , Puerto Rico)
RobNyc I know you always say every distro is the best, an about VLOS the lead developer lives near me and he is the most arrogant person and does not keep VLOS to the true spirit of GPL he just want it to be commercial withou it even being good in the first place. And I can do better things with my gentoo proper system.
25 • cool stuff! (by JAG on 2006-06-20 01:46:24 GMT from Linden, United States)
Hey everyone...check this out!
http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/14/2014254
26 • Package tracking (by Carlos Alberto P. P. B. Santos on 2006-06-20 02:39:42 GMT from La Habana, Cuba)
I think that the less interest on the package tracking this time is due to a more perfect tuning of options DW is already tracking w/the need of the community as a hole.
BTW, those were very clever additions.
27 • I justed loaded WIndows vista beta.... (by azbaer on 2006-06-20 02:54:52 GMT from Phoenix, United States)
Im tring out Vista, what a painfully install process. the worse Linux installer is better and more exciting then the Vista installer. The OS alone fott print was 12GB, no office suite, no internet plugins or Vista gives new meaning to BLOAT ware. By the way it looks alot like Mac OS X and Linux
28 • Re: #8, #23 Ubuntu/Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (by KnightFire on 2006-06-20 03:41:27 GMT from Calgary, Canada)
There is definately something wrong with Ubuntu/Kubuntu 6.06 LTS! I have a dual P3 1GHz w/512MB, Digital Tulip ethernet, ATI, and SBLive; the Ubuntu boot up is very slow with no network, or sound, and Kubuntu just locks up. I was really hoping to upgrade... I'm still running Red Hat 7.3. Hmm... perhaps a disk install of DamnSmall or KNOPPIX.
29 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2006-06-20 05:48:11 GMT from Honolulu, United States)
Did you try the alternative installer CD? Many people including me have had problems with the Ubuntu live CD installer, but the alternate install CD works okay.
Of Kubuntu, Kanotix, and the other Debian-based distributions, I like SimplyMEPIS 6.0. RC1 the best so far.
30 • 14 • Frenzy 1.0 'extended' (by johncoom on 2006-06-20 11:04:28 GMT from Camberley, United Kingdom)
Andrei - if you can use BitTorrent - Frenzy 1.0 - Extended - EN (253.2Mb) is listed here on this
page http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?cat=145
MD5 (frenzy-1.0-ext-EN.iso) = fdb5dfbee148988ee6e53737b742725d
You can join the LinuxTracker - but you do not have to, you can just grab a torrent and download - please u/l at least as much as you d/l
Now that was easy :-)
31 • 14 • Frenzy 1.0 'standard' (by johncoom on 2006-06-20 11:12:39 GMT from Camberley, United Kingdom)
I forgot to add that Frenzy 1.0 - Standard - EN is also there as
well, at the Link I gave above. Both are currently being seeded
32 • package database update (by elcaset on 2006-06-20 12:47:43 GMT from Bothell, United States)
I, too am bummed out that I missed the suggestion period for the package database update.
I would love it if you were to add Totem media player. VLC is my favourite media player (it plays everything), but Totem is also great because (at least in my tests) is the fastest video player (and I mean a lot faster than the several others i tried).
33 • Another missing one (by Thorsten Glaser on 2006-06-20 13:17:33 GMT from Cologne, Germany)
Since beginning of April 2006, all development snapshots
of MirOS BSD have been combined Live+Install ISOs.
They do not offer any more comfort than a freshly
installed base system, without additional packages,
twm instead of kde, etc. but are automatically built
as part of the release process - the OpenBSD team
doesn't even give install ISOs away - and the framework
can be used to build funky live CDs enhanced with
colourful software such as KDE.
Due to server issues, the homepage is a mess, but
you can always find the latest downloads on the
good Scarywater (Anime) BitTorrent tracker:
http://f.scarywater.net/miros/
34 • Is there life after Ubuntu? (by tom on 2006-06-20 23:05:51 GMT from Helena, United States)
It looks like goodbye Ubuntu after almost a year. Ubuntu has become unstable and no solution (to the problem) to the posts by myself or others on the Ubuntu site (the posts of others are over 1 week old and additional users are reporting simmilar problems as of today).
I am considering a re-install, but as there is no solution to the problems I am not sure it is worth the hassle.
I have been giving Vector serious consideration. Frenzie is a possibility. SUSE/Fedora are nice, but bloated.
Advice on a medium-weight distro??? Light weight distros also welcome, must be able to compile from source.
35 • FOOBARed (by Mr. Pink on 2006-06-20 23:10:57 GMT from Redmond, United States)
I'm happy to report that Dapper has disintegrated on my laptop after only being in use since the day stable was released.
/etc/hostname file is empty, so is /etc/network/interfaces.
acpi went complitely insane and networkmanager has no clue.
Synaptic refuses to start.
Congrats to Ubuntu team on successfuly mimicing MS business model.
36 • Libranet (by Andrew on 2006-06-20 23:16:20 GMT from Red Deer, Canada)
Does anyone know if it possible to get a hold of a copy of LIbranet? All of the .torrents I've tried seem dead.
37 • Re :8 (by Marc on 2006-06-20 23:50:00 GMT from Montral, Canada)
I too made an upgrade to LTS and i'm really DISAPOINTED !!!
The whole thing finished with broken package that i could not
resolved. Luckally i had saved all my data. Now i want to try
something new , any sugestions ?
38 • Check out this project... (by JS on 2006-06-21 02:08:41 GMT from Plano, United States)
This should really be looked at as a candidate for a possible future Distrowatch contribution! I really wish these guys success on this project.
http://www.alkyproject.com/
39 • FreeBSD 6.2 release correction (by Anonymous on 2006-06-21 06:30:27 GMT from Seattle, United States)
The FreeBSD 6.2 schedule is targeting Sep 11, 2006 rather than July 31, 2006 as listed in the DistroWatch upcoming release list. Not surprising, as 6.1 final release was significantly delayed.
40 • Re: 37 (by tom on 2006-06-21 06:38:11 GMT from La Junta, United States)
I have been happy with Zenwalk.
I am looking into Vector. Features: Fast. Slackware.
I just found an interesting variation of Kanotix as well:
Kanotix2006-CPX-Mini. Features: Size 239 MB, Fluxbox + Rox. Debian.
Downloading now, have not booted as of yet.
Tried Frenzie, looks interesting but I can not bring up the net so will not likely install.
41 • Re : 34 (by Caraibes on 2006-06-21 10:33:54 GMT from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic)
For medium weight distro, here are my 2 big time favorites :
Blag (either 30k(stable) or 50k(beta))
Zenwalk 2.6
I use both, but finally switched my main desktop to Blag 30003 last month, and I REALLY like it... I enjoyed Xfce a lot, because it s very fast, but at the end of the day, Gnome suits me better, despite being much slower than Xfce...
See Blag here :
http://www.blagblagblag.org/ it is a really great distro !
See Zenwalk here :
http://www.zenwalk.org/
42 • 41 (by tom on 2006-06-21 13:48:39 GMT from Helena, United States)
Caribes: Thank you for the advice. I am considering BLAG but have a few questions for you regarding BLAG.
First would you advise BLAG 30K or 50K ?
What repositories does BLAG use? I would assume it is compatible with Fedora and therefore a large repository/number of software packages. Is BLAG 50k any more or less compatible with bleeding edge Fedora packages (then 30k)?
What is the advantage of BLAG over Fedora core 5?
Also, have you looked at Fluxbox as an alternate to XFCE or GNOME?
Have you looked at Vector?
43 • Ubuntu (by EmyrB on 2006-06-21 14:30:58 GMT from Aberystwyth, United Kingdom)
What's with all the Ubuntu bashing? I have no complaints about Ubuntu 6.06, I installed an early dapper flight and upgraded on a regular basis. I have Ubuntu 6.06 running on an old Gateway 9500 Laptop and a machine I chucked together out of spare parts with no issues what so ever.
The only challenge Ubuntu will have on my systems is either Mepis or Slackware. I know Ubuntu is not for everyone, but instead of bashing Ubuntu, report your findings to the Ubuntu team and try another distro. My penny's worth.
Keep up the good work Ladislav.
44 • i have not tried Blag 5k (by hekar on 2006-06-21 17:40:00 GMT from Kitchener, Canada)
I'm using Blag 4k and its great (not great for a server though). it's comes with apt and yum set up with the greatest repositories. as for 3k or 5k i would go with 5k, i didn't like the 3k release of blag
45 • 43 (by tom on 2006-06-21 22:57:30 GMT from Helena, United States)
I am not "Ubuntu bashing" at all. The reality is Ubuntu 6.06 has some very serious problems. Just look at the forums:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=140
There are times when I can not access Ubuntu because I get a "server busy" error message. Many of the posted questions are unresolved.
I have filed a bug report with Ubuntu and it remains both unanswered and unresolved. Presuably Ubuntu tech support is overwhelmed right now.
The end result is my Ubuntu system is broken (after upgrading the system) and I am reluctant to re-install without some idea of what caused the problem.
Thus a search for life after Ubuntu.
46 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2006-06-22 07:10:25 GMT from Honolulu, United States)
Just tried the KANOTIX-2006-CPX-MINI-7 iso that one of the posters above mentioned. It's a pretty cool USB/Live-CD distro with Fluxbox and ROX.
The homepage is here:
http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/cpx-mini/index.html
47 • Ubuntu bashing? (by Anonymous Penguin on 2006-06-22 07:34:25 GMT from Roma, Italy)
As Tom (post #45) wrote, there is no Ubuntu bashing, but some serious issues with it.
I tried the alternate-amd64.iso and it hangs during install, no matter what I try to do.
48 • It's all relative (by Mr. Pink on 2006-06-22 10:32:14 GMT from Redmond, United States)
After trying latest SUSE it seems like Dapper wasn't that bad. Have you ever tried to move a couch from one floor to another? That's what running SUSE feels like.
49 • RE: #48 (by Anonymous Penguin on 2006-06-22 19:01:33 GMT from Roma, Italy)
True, SUSE has quite a few problems, but I can solve most of them, even with a lot of work.
Ubuntu here absolutely refuses to install. So what good is it to me?
More about it later.
50 • 48 & 49 (by tom on 2006-06-22 20:57:00 GMT from Helena, United States)
Mr Pink- What OS do you suggest.
49 I agree, my Ubuntu install was hosed, no fix in sight. If you get a fix, please share. Most of the Ubuntu useres who are not having troubble have thier heads in the sand, denial of problems, and accuse me of "bashing" Ubuntu just because I seek help with the system.
All you Ubuntu users, how about more help and less criticism.
Although slow SUSE at least runs.
51 • (K)Ubuntu ***CLEAN*** desktop install (by Mr. Pink on 2006-06-22 21:33:19 GMT from Redmond, United States)
Just to share with the public here's my way of installing Dapper:
1.Download alternative or server ISO.
2.Do server (minimal) install.
3.Enable uni/multiverse in /etc/apt/source.list, I also add 3rd party repos like current KDE, plf and such.
4.Do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, you can also get linux-686 or -k7.
5.apt-get install (k)ubuntu-desktop OR aptitude --with-recommends install (k)ubuntu-desktop if you like it fat.
I've been doing it since Hoary and it seems to be the shortest path to current full-blown desktop. Make sure to put /home on separate partition 'cause dist-upgrade most likely won't go smooth when new release comes out.
I'd like to see Ubuntu coming out with mini-ISO like debian. Cuts down on downloads for everybody.
To #49: Ultimately everything can be fixed. It just depends on your desire to do so. I frankly am getting tired of all that perpetual fixing. And distro maintainers keep failing to deliver. Sad. Imagine how it affects TCO for businesses. I personally cannot go to my customers and tell them with the staight face that linux on desktops would be better. I just can't.
52 • Still looking (by Mr. Pink on 2006-06-22 21:36:33 GMT from Redmond, United States)
Mr Pink- What OS do you suggest.
I don't know. I'm in search myself. I've been doing it since '98.
53 • RE: #52 (by Anonymous Penguin on 2006-06-22 21:50:04 GMT from Roma, Italy)
>>Mr Pink- What OS do you suggest.
I don't know. I'm in search myself. I've been doing it since '98.<<
Have you tried Mac OS X?
54 • Alternatives (by Mr. Pink on 2006-06-22 23:11:24 GMT from Redmond, United States)
Have you tried Mac OS X?
No. Investment in overpriced hardware and software is not something I'm looking for. Althogh it looks like if you want good quality apps commercial is the way to go. With all those OSS devs who are doing it out of the goodness of their heart and no need to survive in the marketplace there is not much hope that we will see a lot of improvement.
55 • in search of a 'lighter' distro (by ray carter at 2006-06-23 02:43:58 GMT from Idaho Falls, United States)
Highly recommend you have a look at Elive. I find it very impressive. There is a one click install from the Live CD.
56 • Buffalo continued as Mustang? (by Ariszló)
From http://www.mcalesterlinux.net/ :
Version 2.0 of Buffalo Linux is under design review. It will be continued, but whether the LiveCD format will be or whether it will be integrated as an extension of Mustang are under consideration.
New Linux miniCD distribution:Mustang Linux
Homepage for Mustang Linux: http://mustang.mccooler.net/
57 • Mustang (by tom on 2006-06-26 03:19:41 GMT from Helena, United States)
Downloaded Mustang mainly to see what they have done with Blackbox.
The CD does not boot either under qemu or from the CD ROM on re-boot. Have not tried VMWare.
Maybe when they work out thier boot bug. (No MD5 sum on Mustang website to check, but I have downloaded twice and each download has the same MD5 sum and the CD also checked out fine).
58 • RE: 57 Mustang (by ladislav on 2006-06-26 03:25:56 GMT from Taipei, Taiwan)
I tried Mustang too a few weeks ago, but it didn't boot here either. That's why I never mentioned it in DistroWatch Weekly or anywhere else on the site.
59 • Re: 56-58 Mustang (by rglk on 2006-06-26 05:02:27 GMT from Edgewater, United States)
Same here ... it just doesn't work. Don't waste your time.
60 • Re: Mustang (by Ariszló on 2006-06-26 08:05:46 GMT from Budapest, Hungary)
I tried Mustang on three machines and, yes, it failed on two. One of the machines where Mustang failed had an nVidia graphics card while the other did not have enough RAM. The machine where Mustang booted fine had an Intel 845G graphics card.
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