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1 • No subject (by Marco on 2006-04-03 09:48:10 GMT from London, United Kingdom)
It's always a pleasure to read the Distrowatch Newsletter on a Monday morning. Thanks a lot for your great work!
2 • Tuttle (by Henrique on 2006-04-03 10:00:59 GMT from Carnaxide, Portugal)
What bugs me most about this story is the lack of humility of the City Manager. Worst than to make a mistake is not to recognize it. I'm also sorry for Tuttle.
3 • GoblinX 1.3 (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 10:02:06 GMT from Brasília, Brazil)
There is a new release candidate version of GoblinX 1.3...
From their site:
"The release candidate is out to anyone who wants to test and know more about the next release, also we wish you report any error or bugs found while using the release candidate version. The GoblinX 1.3 rc01 uses the same kernel from GoblinX Premium, and it means you can use all extra drivers from the premium edition on it."
4 • GNOME 2.14 enters Debian unstable (by Erik on 2006-04-03 10:16:15 GMT from Dresden, Germany)
Good news for Debian (unstable) desktop users: GNOME 2.14 is currently being uploaded to unstable. Many components are already there and a fully working GNOME 2.14 should be available within a couple of days.
http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.14-unstable-2006-04-01-21-33
5 • GParted and not GNU/Parted? (by Emre Sokullu on 2006-04-03 10:54:36 GMT from Türk, Turkey)
I think GNU/Parted would be a better choice for donations. Not to disregard their works, but GParted is nothing but a UI for Parted. The real work is done by GNU/Parted team. And there are a bunch of GParted alternatives around like QtParted.
6 • Idea for future donation (by Alan Sanderson on 2006-04-03 11:42:30 GMT from Canberra, Australia)
The Linux-NTFS project would be a very worthy project to give a donation to. They develop tools to allow the Linux kernel to access NTFS partitions as well a wide collection of NTFS partitions. http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
7 • Time to move on (by Eric S. Raymod on 2006-04-03 11:49:03 GMT from Pretoria, South Africa)
Hi
Please don't be mad with me. I've given up on the "open source movement". I now work for Microsoft and I'm very happy. Soon I will be changing my surname to Redmond.
Regards
Eric S. Redmond.
8 • Tutle (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 11:57:33 GMT from Brussels, Belgium)
Mr Taylor owes Mr Hughes excuses but he even does not understand it.
9 • Re: GParted and not GNU/Parted? (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 12:16:18 GMT from Stockholm, Sweden)
Gparted is __NOT__ "nothing but a UI for Parted". It's also a frontend to at least nine(!!!) additional packages (e2fsprogs, xfsprogs, ntfsprogs, dostools, reiserfsprogs, jfsutils, hfsutils, util-linux, reiser4progs) : http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
Putting all these and the different logics together itself qualifies GParted much more than a pure frontend for anything.
Congratulations and long live GParted! :-)
10 • bad link (by Dr. David Johnson on 2006-04-03 12:25:24 GMT from , United States)
Link that says "Freshmeat" in the "Related Web Sites" section at the SLAX page at
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03327#0
should point to
http://freshmeat.net/projects/slax/
Tnx for a great site guys. I'm still trying to hold my sides in, after reading Robert's "Hasta La Vista" piece last night ;-)
David
11 • In response to 7* by ESR (by woka on 2006-04-03 12:31:14 GMT from Hampton, United States)
Perhaps you can bring the redmond crew some new concepts they might never have heard of such as security, stability, and user satisfaction? Best of luck!
P.S. I am ready to use that bridge you sold me in Brooklyn. Where do I mail the check to?
12 • Gnome Parted? (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 12:46:44 GMT from , Germany)
I just wonder, why has the money been donated to the gtk gui (gparted) instead of the gnu program itself ((gnu) parted)?
13 • Re: Gnome Parted? (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 13:06:41 GMT from Stockholm, Sweden)
Perhaps because Parted can fully handle only FAT (its reiserfs support has serious corruption problems for years and its ext2/ext3 support became incompatible with current popular layouts) meanwhile GParted is able to safely and almost fully handle about 10 additional, widely used filesystems (ext2, ext3, jfs, xfs, ntfs, reiserfs, reiser4, hfs, etc).
Parted is basically a partition table editor but GParted can manipulate almost a dozen different filesystems as well, by using the relevant package for each filesystem.
14 • Poor Tuttle (by SFN on 2006-04-03 13:58:27 GMT from Rochester, United States)
The sad part about all of this is that Jerry Tuttle wasn't satisfied with painting a target on Tuttle's entire computer infrastructure. He wants to keep making that target bigger.
15 • RE: 14 (by SFN on 2006-04-03 14:01:07 GMT from Rochester, United States)
"Jerry Tuttle" = "Jerry Taylor"
16 • tuttle person (by towsonu2003 on 2006-04-03 14:37:53 GMT from Baltimore, United States)
that guy is still speaking. poor (sic) tuttle guy... Why doesn't CentOS send him a bill for the support services the Tuttle Guy received??????
17 • No subject (by TuttleOK_Fanboi on 2006-04-03 14:43:04 GMT from Austin, United States)
Um, wouldn't someone who SOLD his operating system have more time on his hands than someone who GAVE IT AWAY?
Uh, yeah, and next time you want something, just get the FBI involved. Then they will just quake at your every word. They'll like call you "Mister" and everything.
18 • No subject (by AC on 2006-04-03 14:43:22 GMT from , United States)
Incompetence and arrogance is a disturbing combination but this isn't our community's finest hour either. The harassment, though deserved, isn't the best way to encourage governments to adopt GNU/Linux.
19 • fedora (by Scott Wilson on 2006-04-03 15:13:12 GMT from Phoenix, United States)
I spent all of sunday trying to install fedora core 5.
This is the only time, I have ever had a issues installing a distro.
either the system would not load my sound or USB keyboard, or USb Mouse, or it would not boot after a reinstall, lock up during the boot process.
So I now have a empty system, waiting for me to to reinstall Windows (for games) and Ubuntu or Debian.
So as it sits for me: Suse and now Fedora will never be on my PC again. I will use CentOS or a evaluation version of Red HAt Ent Linux to study for RHCE test.
20 • Finnix iPod release was a joke (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 16:00:21 GMT from Budapest, Hungary)
The release of Finnix for iPod is mentioned in the issue, but it was only an April Fool's. Check finnix.org. The iPod download is in fact an mp3 ;-)
21 • Tuttle City Manager (by chronicon on 2006-04-03 16:13:42 GMT from San Antonio, United States)
LOL! This is great! It's people like this guy that keep me employed! He doesn't even seem to grasp the difference between a web site (domain, hosting, etc.) and a web page. And, if you read the article, he is of the opinion that making threats is the proper way to get assistance from total strangers who owe him nothing! Guess that's just how they do bidness out in Tuttle, huh?
22 • Vista review (by genetics73@hotmail.com on 2006-04-03 16:45:36 GMT from Indianapolis, United States)
how many beta distros of linux are without faults? vista is not to be out till next year...give me a break
23 • Jerry Taylor an embarassment (by JeffS on 2006-04-03 16:56:21 GMT from San Francisco, United States)
It was laughable to read the email exchange. This Jerry Taylor not only displayed is complete ignorance, he was completely rude and arrogant. Johnny Hughes was bending over backwards to try to help this guy, and remained calm, and eventually was able to help this idiot, in spite of ridiculous threats and a complete lack of cooperation.
Even after the whole exchange this Jerry Taylor moron still would not admit his wrong doing (threating an innocent stranger who was only trying to help him), or his complete incompetence.
This guy is an embarassment. The city of Tuttle should fire him immediately - he's completely unqualified, he is an ass, he's arrogant, and he'll bring his IT systems down to their knees with his complete incompetetence and ignorance.
24 • U/K/Edbuntu (by |TG|Mateo on 2006-04-03 17:03:28 GMT from Quincy, United States)
Funny, I don't complain when I see the link go up in the "New distributions" list without an accompanying announcement.
I think "W00t! Getting an early start on the download!" and trot off the the mirrors. Not a single complaint on my part, after 15 minutes downloading (as opposed to over an hour today-same mirror btw).
And Yes, I actually think in w00t!
25 • Suggestion for next donation (by Hillman on 2006-04-03 17:20:57 GMT from Hong Kong, Hong Kong)
I have seen the GNOME has received donation from Distrowatch before. I think, as a windows environment, KDE deserves the donation also.
26 • The Tuttle story (by Arthuro Braketti on 2006-04-03 17:47:12 GMT from , Canada)
Here's how Daffy Duck would sum it up: with his last letter, this Taylor guy certainly gives the whole story a nice coat of Tuttle wax.
27 • OpenSSH (by Bremac on 2006-04-03 18:00:47 GMT from Toronto, Canada)
A suggestion for the next donation - OpenBSD/OpenSSH. As they're mentioned so much, they need money, and it hardly seems fair that such an important project should be left out.
28 • 22 (by AC on 2006-04-03 18:32:44 GMT from , United States)
Give ME a break. Of course GNU/Linux distributions all have their faults. Even Debian stable. But among those faults are not the sorts of faults that afflict Redmond products, specifically. The faults that the article focused on were those that deliberately work to subvert the users' freedom and treats them like criminals. Perhaps you don't see a difference but I see this as far worse that having problem configuring X or Firefox crashing.
29 • 27 (by AC on 2006-04-03 18:39:13 GMT from , United States)
Is it possible to donate to OpenSSH without donating to OpenBSD? I agree the former definitely needs our support. The latter... well, I don't want to start a flame war.
30 • I agree with Alan Sanderson (by Sonmez Sahutoglu on 2006-04-03 18:51:18 GMT from Lees Summit, United States)
I agree with Alan Sanderson that the Linux-NTFS project would be a idea to donate.
31 • Tuttle (by Gus on 2006-04-03 18:55:06 GMT from Brick, United States)
If you read the tuttles time article, you will see he is still more arrogant explaining why he did what he did. Kind of ironic, the tutlle city home page calls themselves as "The place where people grow-friendly".
32 • Re: Post 22's comment... (by 3742891 on 2006-04-03 19:02:15 GMT from Chullora, Australia)
22 (genetics73@hotmail.com) says...
"how many beta distros of linux are without faults? vista is not to be out till next year...give me a break"
Does Linux FORCE THE USER TO USE DRM technologies? Well Vista will!
Does Linux force the user to upgrade a video card when they don't have to?
I'm running the Xgl/Compiz desktop eyecandy with a Geforce 2 MX400, an ancient budget DirectX 7 card...Microsoft wants you to upgrade to a DirectX 9-class solution to experience the same desktop eyecandy! If that doesn't define the word inefficiency, I don't know what does.
And what's really funny is that Beta users are struggling with Vista's eyecandy, while Linux folks are having fun "spinning the cube" !!!
Microsoft refuses to dump or rewrite Internet Explorer, it slaps on band-aid security methods around it, and calls it a security improvement! (And not surprisingly, they'll use it as part of their marketing nonsense..."Play the security card")
The real improvement would've been to address IE directly. This is how Linux and the open-source community approaches problems. They actually attack the problem directly! Not wonder around it, letting the user suffer its nonsense.
33 • Winwoes review (by John, Doe on 2006-04-03 19:45:17 GMT from Norfolk, United States)
Dear Sir,
I stumbled across the reviews of Vista Winwoes on this forum, hehe that was the best review I have read this year.
PS I can'thave big brother see my name on this forum it may cause my taxes to be audited, or worse.
34 • Donations (by tomcat on 2006-04-03 20:24:43 GMT from Norderstedt, Germany)
Gparted well deserves the donation. The team does a good job. I have some suggestions for future donations:
Inkscape, Screem, Nvu, Rhythmbox, Gnomebaker, DSL, KateOS, Kurumin and SystemRescue.
I think all of them contributed nicely for the OSS movement.
35 • Xandros (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 21:24:49 GMT from Duluth, United States)
Anyone know when the next version of Xandros will be released and what it will be like? Thanks.
Keep up the good work with "DW". It is greatly appreciated.
36 • Donations (by Anonymous on 2006-04-03 21:25:26 GMT from Helsinki, Finland)
Given the recent news, I think the OpenBSD/OpenSSH team would appreciate a donation.
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060321034114
37 • OpenBSD (by anonymous on 2006-04-03 21:42:11 GMT from Garden Grove, United States)
Hello, I think the next donation should go to OpenBSD. Think of all the wonderful things that have come out of that OpenBSD! OpenSSH, Blowfish passwords, OpenNTPD, CARP, their reworking of malloc that caught a ton of third party bugs, and documentation from a few hardware vendors!
38 • Xandros (by Xandros 3elf on 2006-04-03 23:11:14 GMT from Tewksbury, United States)
There is no need for a new Xandros Version. Version 3 remains perfect but if there is a new version I will not need it. I have version 3.
39 • Next donation to Puppy (by Caraibes on 2006-04-03 23:15:38 GMT from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic)
I suggest you consider Puppy Linux for a donation...
I start to really dig the whole concept after about a year of just toying around with it...
Here are some interesting articles that justify my choice, and don't talk directly about Linux :
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,62562,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_6
http://www.recycleworks.org/ewaste/ewaste_process.html
http://www.davidsuzuki.org/WOL/Challenge/10steps.asp
Food for thoughts...
40 • Re: OpenBSD Donations (by Misty on 2006-04-03 23:19:20 GMT from Little Rock, United States)
I third that, even though I don't use it. It's one of the better projects out there and they could use a donation.
41 • Re: 39 (by JAG on 2006-04-04 00:30:14 GMT from Linden, United States)
I'd like to second the donation request for puppy...
It's a cool little distro...I also think it should be included under
"Development and unannounced releases".
Here's an excerpt from the developer news site...
Mar 29
A snapshot of Puppy2 alpha, dated March 29th, has been uploaded. This is not an official release. It is for Puppy testers and developers. Get it from here:
http://www.puppyos.com/test/
The patched 2.4.31 kernel source is also available. Some notes:
* CD: This can be burnt to CD-R or CD-RW using most Windows or Linux CD-burner programs. If you want to use it in multisession mode (sessions get saved back to CD-R), then be sure the CD-burner program supports multi-session burning (leaves CD "open" for further tracks to be burnt later).
* DVD: There is no known Windows burner program that will burn the DVD properly (?). You need a Linux DVD-burner program, such as Burniso2cd in Puppy -- this program burns the DVD "open", so that it can be used normally or as multisession.
* UPGRADING: If you have tested a previous puppy2 alpha CD, please get rid of any pup_save.3fs file, wherever it is on the hard drive. Also delete a underdog.lnx file if it exists. This is important!
There is a special forum for puppy2 development. Report here any bugs, I also want to know about success stories!
Forum URL: http://www.puppyos.com/nfphpbb/
42 • Concept of MultiLinuxLive NOT A NEW ONE (by long memory on 2006-04-04 00:38:38 GMT from , Australia)
QUOTE
We have previously mentioned the existence of a custom Linux DVD that contains a number of bootable live distributions,
END QUOTE
This concept is not a new one - AND - I know you are aware of it because I found out about it here in the first place (circa 2004) - The ONLY NEW thing is that Nautopia.net are now making it a DVD
A CD with 6 mini-distros had been created called MultiDistro - of course it is a bit old now, but it would not have heart you to remember to mention it - so that others relise that the concept of multiple systems on one CD (and now DVD) is not a new one.
You can get a torrent of Multi-Distro here, they have v.2.0 and v.2.2
here http://www.tlm-project.org/public/distributions/multidistro/
It is also mirrored
here ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/multidistro/
v.1.5 11/26/2004 12:00:00 AM
v.2.0 12/06/2004 12:00:00 AM
v.2.2 02/23/2005 12:00:00 AM
Last entry in the changelog of 2.2 that lists the mini-distros & vers
23.02.05 RIP from 11.4 to 11.6
DSL from 0.8.4 to 0.9.3
GeexBOX from pre-0.99 to 0.98.5
SAM from 1.1 to 2005-1
INSERT from 1.2.16 to 1.2.18
Beatrix from Nov.04 to 2005.1F
DON'T GET ME WRONG - the new MultiLinuxLive (DVD) is brillant.
But let us remember, the concept of multi O/S removable medium is not new
43 • GParted?? (by Andy on 2006-04-04 01:06:10 GMT from Palo Alto, United States)
I am really appalled at the way each time the 'G' gang comes out with a product it becomes the next-killer-app for linux. QtParted has been around for ages before the GNOME crows woke up to smell its success. Nothing has been said about that.
Do the distrowatch editors are new entrant to open source products? I think not, but the omission of QtParted altogether is not very healthy for OSS in general because it clearly favours the GTK-GNOME options over everything else.
Sorry guys, that's one more reason for me not to visit distrowatch in the future . . .
44 • #7 (by vampire_janus@yahoo.com on 2006-04-04 01:19:50 GMT from , Philippines)
don't you guys find that funny at all? :D
45 • kubuntu flight 6 released as well (by vampire_janus@yahoo.com on 2006-04-04 01:23:27 GMT from , Philippines)
http://kubuntu.org/
would you know if this would be the last alpha release before they release 6.06? if that is so, i would like to download it already as i need an upgraded desktop distro right now
46 • qt_parted (by vampire_janus@yahoo.com on 2006-04-04 01:44:42 GMT from , Philippines)
i use qt_parted myself which comes with systemrescuecd and knoppix. i find it so easy to use. though the latest systemrescuecd's kernel (2.6) has some issues with a qt_parted base app (was it makeext3?? or something)
it is a known fact that ladislav is not a kde folk as i am... maybe that explains it :D
47 • GParted vs QtParted (by kilgoretrout on 2006-04-04 04:42:01 GMT from , United States)
Let me preface my remarks with the declaration that I'm not a gnome guy. In fact, I don't like gnome at all; I'm with Linus on that one.
However, I have used qtparted and I was not impressed; it was buggy and prone to corrupt reiserfs partitions if a resize was attempted. The developer was very defensive and blamed everyone in the world for the reiserfs problem and ultimately edited out the complaints from his forum. He refused to disable the reiserfs resize even though there were numerous reported problems and he acknowledged that there were issues resizing reiserfs partitions. I thought that was irresponsible.
I haven't tried gparted, but after reading their website and the comments here, it's got to be better than qtparted. Another excellent free partitioning tool is mandriva's harddrake which you can get on pclos's live cd. This I have used and it's vastly superior to qtparted.
48 • #43 Gparted by Andy (by Another Andy on 2006-04-04 11:07:31 GMT from Helsinki, Finland)
Don't you think that refusing to visit Distrowatch because it supported a Gnome-oriented product instead of a KDE-oriented one is a classic example of the type of unpleasant infighting and "bitchiness" within the Linux world which is likely to discourage a lot of folk from trying Linux?
Why do personal preferences for a desktop (or a distro or a particular application) have to lead to these kind of sniping remarks? I can't see the need for it. Surely there is room in the Linux world for all tastes!
49 • #42 (by Anonymous on 2006-04-04 11:29:33 GMT from Brasília, Brazil)
www.pcquest.com
Creating a Multi-boot DVD
Learn to make a consolidated multi-boot DVD, India's first, of all live Linux distro CDs you carry around for your adminstrative tasks
Anindya Roy
Friday, July 01, 2005
(...)
50 • Re: GParted vs QtParted (by Anonymous on 2006-04-04 11:58:30 GMT from Stockholm, Sweden)
QtParted is not developed and maintained for about two years now. The text "QtParted is back among the living!" is misleading on is home page. Since the Ark Linux took over the maintainership, they made only one minor release, basically with only a few spelling fixes.
The developer was right about the reiserfs problem because it was Parted's reiserfs code, not his. Nevetheless he should have indeed disable reiserfs. GParted uses the resize_reiserfs tool, not Parted's broken reiserfs code so no such danger.
It's also not true that he edited the related forum messages. The site is zombie for years so consequently since the forum got broken nobody is fixing it.
51 • knoppix..? (by tonny on 2006-04-04 13:18:42 GMT from Yogyakarta, Indonesia)
3 weeks now, and i haven't heard a word 'bout knoppix..
doesn't somebody want to post development in knoppix :(
52 • RE: 46 • qt_parted (by ladislav on 2006-04-04 14:22:43 GMT from Tokyo, Japan)
it is a known fact that ladislav is not a kde folk as i am... maybe that explains it :D
As a matter of fact, I use KDE on my main production box. I`ve always used KDE and have no intention to switch to anything else. Of course, that`s not to say that GNOME (or any other desktop/window manager) is a bad product; it`s just a matter of personal preference. I do prefer working in KDE.
53 • QTparted (by Anonymous on 2006-04-04 16:26:59 GMT from Rancho Palos Verdes, United States)
I use the cfdisk option in zenwalk 1.4 boot and it seems to work well even though I couldn't get zenwalk to load. It is great for making the odd partions needed to install DSL. Does it use Gparted?
54 • DesktopBSD (by genetics73@hotmail.com on 2006-04-04 16:58:19 GMT from Indianapolis, United States)
I have just downloaded the above OS but my intallation failed because neither the mouse nor the keyboard functioned. I have a BenQ wireless keyboard/mouse combo that works very fine with every other OS i have tried - the despicable WindowsXP being one of them, Mandriva, Fedora, etc. Is there a way I can get around the problem without sacrificing the wireless combo?
55 • No subject (by parol on 2006-04-04 19:54:25 GMT from Mc Lean, United States)
Kjempe kuuuul hjemmeside du har.
56 • No drivers installed for LAN on goblinx (by mikkh on 2006-04-04 20:20:13 GMT from Winchester, United Kingdom)
I really like the look of goblinx, but it doesn't appear to load my bog standard realtek LAN drivers (8139too, or similar off the top of my head)
Never had problems with any other distro, so I've never had to fix it
What's the cure anyone, please ?
Tried it in vmware workstation with the same results
57 • Re: Jerry Taylor an embarassment (by Vance on 2006-04-05 04:27:05 GMT from Pittsburgh, United States)
He may be more than just an embarassment. According to the Tuttle Times article, he essentially states that he obtained technical support services by threatening to accuse Johnny Hughes or the CentOS project of a crime.
Title 18, United States Code, Section 875(d): "Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
Oklahoma has similar state statutes. You can download them from the URL below. You want to look in Title 21, Sections 1481 to 1488.
http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/osStatuesTitle.html
58 • On Jerry Taylor (by Mereo on 2006-04-05 10:15:01 GMT from Burlington, Canada)
> Guess that's just how they do bidness out in Tuttle, huh?
It's funny that people made fun not only Mr. Taylor but also the Tuttle City. Isn't that cruel?
Sometimes I think being expert in our time doesn't mean that we can still be an expert in the next 30 years. That's how things go.... We laugh at the old people now, and then our children will laugh at us. That's one of the reason why I see a lot of people in my department start of as a programmer/technician but then end up doing some Computer Science or Mathematical stuffs. At least Maths is not outdated as fast as technology!!!
59 • SSH donation (by Anonymous on 2006-04-05 13:41:04 GMT from Halifax, Canada)
I vote next weeks donation goes to the openssh project :)
60 • About Knoppix being late (by Gilberto Dos Passos on 2006-04-05 20:18:43 GMT from , Canada)
Klaus said the 5 version would be released at the EARLIEST 2 weeks after Cebit, which ended on March 15th, in order to iron out the latest bugs. We're the 5th of April, so give him a break.
Also, kernel 2.6.17 is now at rc1 and it brings a LOT of changes (see the changelog). Most probably Klaus is waiting for the release of the new kernel.
So, in the end, there's no reason to worry. We're not talking abour a 5 years delay, as in the case of Microsoft, but a 5 days delay. Please, give the sucker an even break!
61 • Zenwalk 2.4 (by Caraibes on 2006-04-05 23:30:45 GMT from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic)
Just to let you know I downloaded and installed the new Zenwalk 2.4, and it seems great ! My first impressions are very favorable !
Folks with older hardware, or simply people who like Slackware, but with a bit of ease... Seems like a winner to me...
Of course, I'll need more test to give you follow-ups...
62 • distrowatch donation (by warpengi on 2006-04-06 04:11:42 GMT from Calgary, Canada)
I want to add a vote for openbsd and openssh. I don't use bsd but I certainly use ssh and scp.
Where would we be today without OpenSSH? We would all be running bloated X displays on our servers just to administer them, that's where.
63 • 63 bit of history (by AC on 2006-04-06 05:07:20 GMT from , United States)
More likely, we'd be running either the insecure telnet or the proprietary version of ssh which Debian used to include.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/11/msg00167.html
64 • The author of the Tuttle Times article is as clueless as Taylor (by Anonymous on 2006-04-06 06:45:21 GMT from Santa Barbara, United States)
"Just like computers need an operating system to function, like MacOS or Windows, web sites do too, and CentOS is one of those - distributed through the computer platform of Linux."
So CentOS isn't a OS for computers, like MacOS and Windows are, it's an OS for web sites. And Linux is a "computer platform", and CentOS is "distributed through" it. Yow.
And
"Hughes apparently felt that the apology wasn’t enough to make up for the accusations and FBI threats for a problem he didn’t cause and really had no obligation to fix, and he posted the entire e-mail exchange on the CentOS website on Friday."
Uh, WHAT apology? Taylor wrote "“I am sorry that we had to go through the process and accusations to get the problem resolved" -- that not's not an apology! "I am sorry" in that statement is equivalent to "It's unfortunate". An apology is "an expression of regret at having caused trouble for someone", but Taylor explicitly blamed Johnny Hughes.
And with Mayor Paxton's ridiculous defense of Taylor, Hughes' initial statement rings oh so true: "I feel sorry for your city"
65 • RE: #47 (by Anonymous Penguin on 2006-04-06 10:21:32 GMT from Roma, Italy)
"Another excellent free partitioning tool is mandriva's harddrake which you can get on pclos's live cd. This I have used and it's vastly superior to qtparted."
I agree with that one. Most of us will have a Mandriva CD1 or DVD somewhere, and that is a much better free partitioning tool.
66 • #61 (by tom on 2006-04-06 13:16:36 GMT from Helena, United States)
Thank you, I enjoyed Zenwalk as well. Nice "bare bones" install. Has all the software I normally use without the bloat.
I have enjoued XFCE for some time and hope it does not become more bloated. Fluxbox is also nice, but on some installs it does not install a full menu (sometimes no menu).
If you enjoy Zenwalk try Vector and Frugalware. Fluxbox was very nice on the Vector Live CD.
I tried Arch, but frankly if I did not appreciate any advantage over Slackware. It would be nice if Arch Linux automatically took care of the install scripts. It is so much easier to modify a script later then write the whole thing from scratch. Espeically with multiple installs within my site.
67 • XGL and Compiz are problems (by 3D Games Fail under XGL on 2006-04-08 18:58:23 GMT from San Mateo, United States)
XGL and Compiz are problems , one scummvm does not work right under it, nor does 3D games like quak4-demo crashes on it , under the liveCD version with install kanororaa version, not sure but maybe rr4 is the same too
68 • re: SSH donation (by Just me on 2006-04-09 05:16:08 GMT from Chicago, United States)
Another vote for SSH (dontation).
Regards
69 • Linux creates an impression (by Craig Bell on 2006-04-09 13:31:59 GMT from Oakville, Canada)
from the April 7th blog entry .....
link: http://spaces.msn.com/christabell31/
The box is freaking me out man!
My crazy office mate has a linux system and the default screen savers are really cool. Every day a new one pops up and they are usually nice and wholesome things like pretty pictures fading into other pretty pictures, a pong replay, or a little man juggling.
Well not today...
I look at crazy office mate's computer and type was appearing on the screen. "NCS Server unvailable. All work...NCS Server....ALL work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and No Play mAkeS Jack a dUll boY." and then it just kept typing "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
Those guys at linux are seriously twisted.
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