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1 • As usual (by Dexter Ang on 2005-06-27 09:51:39 GMT from Philippines)
As usual, great work Ladislav.
I'm saddened by the loss of a fellow Canadian, Human Being, and Linux enthusiast. Condolences to his family and friends.
2 • hilarious photos (by paul h on 2005-06-27 11:31:05 GMT from United States)
the link to the backgrounds was so true to the point for every desktop in there but it was so hilarious.
great job finding that internet jewel. and everything else was very good and to the point
3 • Clarkconnect (unmentined) releases (by Bo on 2005-06-27 13:33:59 GMT from United States)
Latest News
June 22, 2005 --- ClarkConnect 3.1 Release Candidate #2 is available. The details are here.
June 21, 2005 --- ClarkConnect 3.1 Release Candidate #1 is available. The details are here.
June 16, 2005 --- ClarkConnect 3.1 Beta #4 is available. The details are here.
June 14, 2005 --- ClarkConnect 3.1 Beta #3 is available. The details are here.
June 7, 2005 --- ClarkConnect 3.1 Beta #2 is available. The details are here.
4 • FC5 (by PuGz on 2005-06-27 13:36:24 GMT from Australia)
Its good to see that the fedora boys are getting on to some serious business.
I know a lot of us linux users started with either slack, debian or if you were a tad later red hat. We all had at least some very early introduction to red hat.
Lately, I only ever hear of complete newbies or universities running fedora core. It just doesn't have much ground breaking stuff... and if you want stability and reliability instead, there are better choices.
but some of those new features sound like fedora might actually step up to once again be a bit more of a leader in the game. here's hoping to some good and ground breaking work that can keep giving the linux community that extra push!
in the mean time... i think i will stick to my top 3: slack, archlinux, debian.
--
PuGz
5 • Backgrounds and stuff (by Scott Wilson on 2005-06-27 13:48:39 GMT from United States)
The backgrounds were funny, I use Debian, but the picture of Debian reminds me of the last time I used the IRC channel for help. Red Hat and Fedora how true. A vendor from a major Computer company had nothing nice to say about RH, ravining about Novell and SUSE.
Suse 9.3 I may have to try it out, so far its been the best out of the box experince I have had since using Linux.
Last week PureDebian, what a pile of trash. The boot options are labeled wrong. even after getting the base config set up, I still had to tweak on things to get things to work. Fine tune the product maybe you will have something. More detailed documention would be nice. So any way I reinstalled Sarge from Debian. much nicer.
The multi media problem really bugs me, It s the only complaint about Linux, my brother has since converting to Linux doesnt mind bitching about it every time I talk to him.
Positive note to end on. I look forward every monday morning a cup of coffee and Distrowatch weekly!
6 • RE: Clarkconnect (unmentined) releases (by ladislav on 2005-06-27 14:08:29 GMT from Taiwan)
I need a decent release announcement with information what has changed and improved since the last release. The ClarkConnect site makes a one-sentence announcement and then redirects people to the same old page as the first announcement.
In other words - how do you expect me to create a one-paragraph release announcement out of a short, simple sentence saying that "ClarkConnect 3.1 Release Candidate #2 is available"? If the developers won't do better than that, I can't be bothered either.
7 • Sorry for the double post... (by Bo on 2005-06-27 14:17:21 GMT from United States)
Regarding announcements, I agree. I see what you mean.
8 • multimedia (by mark on 2005-06-27 14:29:00 GMT from United States)
suse 9.3 was great except for the multimedia
but after I learned that there was a set of packs for it
and installed them its been one of the best
9 • re: multimedia (by Visible on 2005-06-27 15:09:52 GMT from Canada)
I am just about to setup Suse 9.3. Anyone know what "set of packs for it" this person is talking about? It sounds like the person is talking about some add on boxed packages or disks.
I can only think of online repositories. The only thing I really know for really good Suse yast sources is packman at links2linux.org or packman.de. Those are not necessarily exact addresses.
10 • re: multimedia (by SFN on 2005-06-27 15:26:57 GMT from United States)
I could point you to one other site. That's Guru's RPM site. Lots of good info there too. http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/
Other than that and packman's site, I don't know of any "packs". That would definitely be some good info to get out to people who use or want to use SuSE.
11 • astronomy and linux (by crawancon on 2005-06-27 15:27:28 GMT from United States)
speaking of space and linux distro's....
http://www.lin4astro.org/index.php?new_lang=en&main=accueil.php
:-)
12 • re suse multimedia (by nitroushhh on 2005-06-27 15:29:29 GMT from Netherlands)
these 'packs' appear in the online update.
check them and they are installed for you.
Still need to get over to packman for full featured video playback.
There are 4 'media packs', but its not very clear what they are for, or which ones you should install. People have had problems installing all 4.
I did 1and 2 then got xinelib and kaffiene from packman and kept my old win32 codecs and decss for playing you dvds.
13 • Help... (by Max on 2005-06-27 15:38:51 GMT from Australia)
This might not be the exact best place to ask this but here it goes...
There is a file in my system that the root user cannot cat, ls or rm...
Why the hell is that?
Isnt the root supposed to be able to do anything?
I also tried chattr, chmod and chown to no avail
Does anyone knows what the hell is going on????
(Im using Reiserfs btw)
14 • re: alternate ubuntu artwork (by nitroushhh on 2005-06-27 15:48:31 GMT from Netherlands)
Might it be a fork called "UBUMTU" ??? ;-)
15 • Ooops (by Max on 2005-06-27 15:49:55 GMT from Australia)
Btw I want to delete the file, but all those commands give me error msgs even as root...
16 • SUSE 9.3 CDs (by Anonymous on 2005-06-27 16:09:37 GMT from Germany)
ftp.suse.com now has also 5 CD ISO images available.
17 • No subject (by Max on 2005-06-27 16:39:36 GMT from Australia)
Filesystem was corrupted... would not detect problem at boot fs check but solved now.... thanks
18 • Another Great Distrowatch Weekly (by Wesley on 2005-06-27 17:22:47 GMT from United States)
Great Read
19 • live CD distro (by Frank Esposito on 2005-06-27 17:23:31 GMT from United States)
just noticed these were missing from your list
"Klax" is an i486 GNU/Linux Live-CD, very similar to Slax because it's created with the same Linux Live scripts. The version described here contains KDE 3.4.1.
http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/
and;
"Klax" KOffice 1.4 Live-CD
http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/klax/koffice.html
great site-
-espo
20 • "Debian users can simply do an apt-get" (by zebul666 on 2005-06-27 18:35:28 GMT from France)
oh no . even here we can see this sort of "of course debian users can do apt-get " ..
and do you think of the user of non dbian distro
pleease stop it. Or provide the detail instruction to install such a software on the others distros too.
How a site like distrowatch.com that features an incredible number of distribution can talk in an article of a software and of only a distribution in that article.
it is a shame.
I can't bear those "debian users can apt-get' anymore on any site ... i am really sick of it.
21 • The search for the perfect Distribution (by Bill Savoie on 2005-06-27 19:01:00 GMT from United States)
The previous post from zebul666 didn't like the 'debian users can apt-get' note that shows up so much at distrowatch. I have tried many different linux distributions, my last was Suse 9.2, but I have never liked the rpm package manager. Since Redhat 4.2 it has gotten me into trouble.
I love Ada 95, so Suse has provided that, and I have been satisfied. I haven't got Mplayer to work, and now Suse doesn't even try to provide that.
With Novell in the game, it looks like Suse is going more commercial. I have been using Mepis for the last month, but I get upset each time it boots since it looses my desktop settings of 8 desktops. I think 'apt-get' is a wonderful package manager and it gives me Ada and all the language tools anyone could want.
I think Ladislav Bodnar is a gift to the Linux world. Thanks for the wonderful website..
22 • FC and apt-get (by AlanS on 2005-06-27 19:23:13 GMT from Australia)
@Bill Savoie: Ada is available on FC as well. I think it is available on most of the multi CD distros. On FC the packages needed are gcc-gnat and libgnat.
In regards to the section of the weekly that deals with FC5. I don't know if it's a good idea for the Fedora Project to come up with a new graphical package manager. I hope that is not what they are thinking of. Would be much better to use Synaptic or whatever the equivelent one is for yum and modify them to suit. While they are at it they could try and bring us a version of apt that is something approaching what has been released in the last 6 months. That way we might be able to use a newer version of synaptic with it.
23 • Debian users... (by sud_crow at 2005-06-27 19:43:09 GMT from Argentina)
Well, you could apply the "tip" to your own package manager:
apt-get xplanet is the same as:
urpmi xplanet in Mandrake
apt xplanet (with atp4rpm in SUSE)
pacman -S xplanet in Arch Linux
emerge xplanet in Gentoo...
And all the other distros with GUI package managers as Red Hat, Ubuntu, Mandrake, SuSE, Frugalware... you can search in those.
----
To Ladislav,
I really liked the new "featured" distribution section. Its good to read about the developers, i hope you keep this new model in the next issues!
24 • FC and apt-get (by AlanS on 2005-06-27 20:03:26 GMT from Australia)
@Bill Savoie: Ada is available on FC as well. I think it is available on most of the multi CD distros. On FC the packages needed are gcc-gnat and libgnat.
In regards to the section of the weekly that deals with FC5. I don't know if it's a good idea for the Fedora Project to come up with a new graphical package manager. I hope that is not what they are thinking of. Would be much better to use Synaptic or whatever the equivelent one is for yum and modify them to suit. While they are at it they could try and bring us a version of apt that is something approaching what has been released in the last 6 months. That way we might be able to use a newer version of synaptic with it.
25 • Re: FC and apt-get (by AlanS on 2005-06-27 20:04:37 GMT from Australia)
Forget that last bit about apt. Was confusing apt with apt4rpm.
26 • AlanS (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-27 21:54:09 GMT from Italy)
"Forget that last bit about apt. Was confusing apt with apt4rpm."
Alan
apt4rpm is APT ported to rpm distros: so you were correct in your previous post (although the actual package "apt4rpm" is for creating an apt repository)
As to FC using APT I don't think so: now they say that yum is better and APT is deprecated (I disagree)
Anyway yum has already a GUI frontend (very poor if compared to Synaptic)
27 • Scott Wilson (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-27 21:57:58 GMT from Italy)
"Last week PureDebian, what a pile of trash."
Same feelings here. I expected some script of any sort to start after the normal Sarge install: nothing at all.
28 • nitroushhh (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-27 22:09:34 GMT from Italy)
"There are 4 'media packs', but its not very clear what they are for, or which ones you should install. People have had problems installing all 4."
You should check dependencies either with YaST (which is hopeless at it) or, if you use apt:
# apt-get -f install
29 • Bill Savoie (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-27 22:33:51 GMT from Italy)
With Novell in the game, it looks like Suse is going more commercial.
Same feelings here. I gave SUSE the boot more than a month ago. I am a happy Kanotix user now.
I don't know if I have outgrown SUSE or if it is indeed getting worse by every release (the only "feature" I liked about 9.3 was Gnome, eventually a decent one)
30 • RE: "Debian users can simply do an apt-get" (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-27 22:50:25 GMT from Italy)
A few thoughts:
1)Debian has more than 120 derivatives
2) The number of people who use Debian or a derivative is probably more than half the total number of linux users
3)Apt (officially or unofficially) has been ported to a number of rpm distros, including SUSE, Fedora and Mandriva
4)Debian has by far the largest number of package available, and not necessarily in the official repositories: a google search "packagename.deb" gives me almost always a repo to add to my sources.list. When a package is only available as a rpm, you still stand a very good chance of using it in your Debian system: alien will do do the trick for you.
And BTW, I think that also Mandriva would have a lot to gain by going Debian :)
31 • Xplanet (by Carlos Eduardo on 2005-06-28 00:06:50 GMT from Brazil)
Xplanet can display the clouds all over the Earth every 3 hours. It can also display states and countries bounderies. Visit http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/maps.php and you'll be amused!
32 • PureDebian and Underground Linux (by William Roddy on 2005-06-28 00:29:05 GMT from United States)
I hate to dis distros, but both PureDebian last week, and Underground Linux this week proved to be a waste of time for any user at any level. These two distros don't come close to the level of so many more distros from which one could chose.
33 • Suse 9.3 (by nightshade on 2005-06-28 01:27:26 GMT from Australia)
After installing suse 9.3 I did the update through YAST and selected the multimedia packs. All functionality of multimedia was returned after this.
34 • re: suse 9.3 dvd... (by dr on 2005-06-28 02:43:07 GMT from Canada)
I would like to know where people are getting the whole 4 gig plus dowjnload of suse 9.3.... as every mirror I check shows the 4 gig eval version but only shows 188mb size when dnloading????? All should have been updated by now.
..dr
35 • More stuff (by Scott Wilson on 2005-06-28 02:53:52 GMT from United States)
I was really thinking "Great, maybe I can get my Brother to switch form Suse to Debian with Puredebian. I was so unhappy with the results.
Fedora just something about it I dont like, I was a long time Red Hat user since version 6.0. SUSE cant complain its great, but I am often feel I am still usung MS Windows, I dont feel that I am free, as I do with Debian, and yes the "apt-get"thing is just a hoot! Actually Doing suse FTP install now, on my laptop, after all I said, I would try it out. :-)
36 • Scott Wilson (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-28 03:21:59 GMT from Italy)
"SUSE cant complain its great, but I am often feel I am still usung MS Windows, I dont feel that I am free, as I do with Debian "
So I am not the only one who feels like that :)
37 • Pure Debian (by Phil Taylor on 2005-06-28 04:48:50 GMT from United States)
Just installed using Pure Debian. (I'm posting this message from it) It was okay. From command prompt did a "startx" and went into Gnome. I'm a KDE guy so I was a little disappointed. Found I could do apt-get install xdebconfigurator and then after running xdebconfigurator and dexconf I can choose my GUI. Was able to go to KDE or other desktops after that. Debian Pure seems okay, but I think it was easier to get to a Debian install using Knoppix or Kanotix. Usable, but not the slickest thing in town. They just gave it a 0.1 release, so I'm willing to see how it improves over time.
38 • You've just *got* to visit the humor links!! (by Ed Borasky on 2005-06-28 05:21:36 GMT from United States)
Man, I haven't laughed that hard in months!! Whoever came up with those, thanks from the bottom of my Gentoo-loving heart!
Gentoo is for Ricers :)
39 • Re: PureDebian and Underground Linux (by Ariszló on 2005-06-28 05:49:19 GMT from Hungary)
I haven't tried PureDebian but Underground Linux is awesome: its is very easy to install, gives you a working environment out of the box, and is extremely fast.
Go get it: http://www.ludos.org
40 • SuSE 9.3......so wat's wrong? (by Eric Yeoh on 2005-06-28 16:02:10 GMT from Malaysia)
I really am unsure why are there so many people dissing a distro just because it has become a commercial success.
Is it so wrong to be a success? Distro coders still need to eat and pay bills. With a commercial distro, it is actually easier for most companies to accept because there is an actual brick and mortar organisation behind it.
Some may be dissapointed with the "crippled" multimedia features of commercial offerings but after Googling around and forums most problems can be solved.
BTW so far SuSE is the only one works with my HP desktop at work and my Acer and Compaq laptops. I need a distro that works and not something that is "seemingly" superior but takes me a long time just to boot the damn CD.
41 • Eric Yeoh (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-28 19:17:46 GMT from Italy)
"I really am unsure why are there so many people dissing a distro just because it has become a commercial success."
That is not the point at all.
I had been using SUSE almost from the beginning, till last month, when I couldn't take it any longer. On the other hand I have the freedom and "the just works" feel of Debian: why keep struggling?
So a few examples of what I don't like about SUSE?
1)It is more and more buggy when it is released. It feels more and more like a rush job. I had to do a lot of compiling in order to get things working. Then it would make more sense to use Gentoo.
2)It is incredibly bloated and slow.
3)I don't like some of their heavy customizations. And every release they come out with some funny new default or "feature" : last year it was FAM disabled by default, now it is the new firewall which doesn't allow the opening of multiple ports...much more
4)Their multimedia support is still subpar or non existing: you have to use apt to get a semidecent one: and yet I couldn't watch any streamings in Kaffeine.
Same problem with P2P: i don't see why you couldn't at least get aBitTorrent client, which linux users use mostly for downloading distros.
Also I don't like the way they sell it: it has to be with bulky, expensive manuals. That can be okay the first time, but not after you have bought it for so many time.
If I really want to use a rpm distro I feel that Fedora or Mandriva are a better choice by now.
42 • suse9.3 (by mark on 2005-06-28 22:23:18 GMT from United States)
azureus and limewire run great
I didnt have any problems with the firewall
except not being able to turn off ping
multimedia runs great
its much faster then centos4 (aka red hat el4)
just my 2 cents
43 • Underground Linux? (by Andy Axnot on 2005-06-28 22:33:58 GMT from United States)
I read 2 comments here on Underground Linux. One very positive, one very negative. Anybody know if it's been reviewed anywhere?
(I just love Distrowatch, btw)
Thanks.
44 • mark (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-28 23:14:27 GMT from Italy)
"its much faster then centos4 (aka red hat el4)"
A matter of personal experience. For me the opposite is true.
Besides CentOS is rock-solid.
The only reason why I don't use it is because you get a limited number of desktop apps for it.
45 • RE: Underground Linux? (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 02:38:35 GMT from Italy)
It is "unusual", pretty even (IMO), but as a Debian system it is utter rubbish: whoever created it didn't have a clue about Debian.
Do you want an excellent one? Try Kanotix.
46 • Dont get me wrong SUSE is great (by Scott Wilson on 2005-06-29 02:48:38 GMT from United States)
Suse provides the best out of the retail box experience. Here in Phoenix, the only two Shrink wrapped package Linux versions that you can buy off the shelf are Red Hat workstation and SUSE. In some ways I really like SUSE, other ways I really hate it. I really dislike Fedora, Maybe the new Fedora foundation verseion will be better. I see the linux would as 5 flavors, Debian based, Red HAt/Fedora based, Slackware based and Mandrake or what ever their name is and Suse. 6 if you count Gentoo. Any way the choice of options is what makes Linux Great. Is the next Distrowatch weekly going to delayed due to the US Holiday? July 4th?
47 • Underground Linux? LOL (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 02:50:17 GMT from Italy)
I just realized that it is made in Italy. So nobody can say that I am partial...
48 • More stuff (by Scott Wilson on 2005-06-29 03:45:28 GMT from United States)
Mr Anonymous Penquin from Italy and the rest of the posters.
Please use a user name, make one up if you dont want to use your name. Please.
Well SUSE ftp install went badly on my notebook, just to be fair I just wiped my Debian machine and am currently install SUSE 9.3 on my machine. I will have to check out Symphony, since I am an Iowan by birth. Kworld I love it, one of real clocks costs about $1500 (US)
49 • Re: Underground Desktop (by Ariszló on 2005-06-29 05:49:12 GMT from Hungary)
Anonymous Penguin wrote: It is "unusual", pretty even (IMO), but as a Debian system it is utter rubbish: whoever created it didn't have a clue about Debian.
Since you are far from being explicite, I can only guess what you mean. Are you saying that Underground Desktop is not a pure Debian System because it uses third-party repositories like
ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/
http://www.ludos.org/underground/ ?
50 • RE: More stuff (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 05:51:44 GMT from Italy)
"Mr Anonymous Penquin from Italy and the rest of the posters.
Please use a user name, make one up if you dont want to use your name. Please. "
But "Anonymous Penguin" *is* my chosen user name, not because it contains the word "Anonymous"
I have seen the oddest user names, like random sequences of numbers and letters.
At least mine is easy to remember :)
51 • Ariszló (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 05:57:12 GMT from Italy)
"Since you are far from being explicite, I can only guess what you mean. Are you saying that Underground Desktop is not a pure Debian System because it uses third-party repositories like..."
Not at all. I also use plenty of third-party repositories. I mean that it is very poorly configured. Have you tried a dist-upgrade? You'll see immediately what I mean.
52 • Re2: Underground Desktop (by Ariszló on 2005-06-29 07:44:02 GMT from Hungary)
Have you tried a dist-upgrade?
No, because it would not be wise to replace Underground's speed-optimized i686 packages with Debian's legacy-optimized i386 packages. It is hard to both use and not use Debian's repositories.
53 • Ariszló (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 08:36:44 GMT from Italy)
"Have you tried a dist-upgrade?
No, because it would not be wise to replace Underground's speed-optimized i686 packages with Debian's legacy-optimized i386 packages."
Well, that means that you can't install extra packages.
54 • Anonymous Penguin (by Ariszló on 2005-06-29 09:45:21 GMT from Hungary)
Yes, you can install extra packages without a dist-upgrade. Installing additional packages is not the same as replacing already installed ones. It's a pity that the extra packages are built for i386 rather than i686 but a few extra packages won't slow down the system too much.
Even if dist-upgrade sucks at the moment, this is a baby distro, so chances are that dist-upgrade will either be fixed, or Underground will become a fork sticking to its own repositories.
55 • Ariszló (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 12:44:44 GMT from Italy)
" Installing additional packages is not the same as replacing already installed ones. "
Quite often in order to install more packages you need to upgrade their dependencies. That is why I keep my Debian partion always updated.
"Even if dist-upgrade sucks at the moment, this is a baby distro, so chances are that dist-upgrade will either be fixed, or Underground will become a fork sticking to its own repositories."
I see it more like Knoppix, which breaks if you want to dist-upgrade.
But that isn't the only issue. Many other typical Debian configurations are screwed: locales is an example.
56 • The subject is Underground Desktop, not me (by Ariszló on 2005-06-29 20:44:26 GMT from Hungary)
Since this is a new-born distribution, all is flaws are forgivable, IMHO. If I had found as many issues as Anonymous Penguin had then I would report them at the forum, which is here:
http://www.ludos.org/portal/forum/
What I really appreciate is that it is optimized for i686 because running an i486-pessimized distribution on a Pentium 4 machine is not much fun. It also looks pretty (too pretty to my taste but never mind) and it gives you many of the most popular applications out of the box. There is also an FAQ which tells you how to configure the network or add some more applications:
http://www.ludos.org/portal/node/18/
57 • RE: The subject is Underground Desktop, not me (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 21:16:06 GMT from Italy)
Well, I use that formula instead of the ugly (and rude?) "@somebody" that one can now find everywhere.
"If I had found as many issues as Anonymous Penguin had then I would report them at the forum, which is here:"
Well, I try several distros a week. If I find them too far from a reasonably decent standard I simply give up.
58 • And besides... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-29 21:43:21 GMT from Italy)
"running an i486-pessimized distribution on a Pentium 4 machine is not much fun."
Kanotix runs quite fast here. Many times faster than SUSE, for instance.
59 • Re: And besides (by Ariszló on 2005-06-30 06:50:07 GMT from Hungary)
Yes, there are some exceptions like that. Slackware is easy to explain: although its packages are built for i486, they are optimized for i686 (-march=i486 -mcpu=i686). There are also some distributions that are built for i686 and they are still very slow. Underground is not exceptional: it's built for i686 and it is faster than Kanotix.
60 • Underground Linux and Kanotix (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-06-30 19:45:01 GMT from Italy)
"Underground is not exceptional: it's built for i686 and it is faster than Kanotix."
Do you have some serious benchmarking which can confirm that?
61 • Suse 9.3 (by mariachi on 2005-07-01 22:31:44 GMT from Australia)
Why is it this distro seems to limp like a lame dog on my 3.0ghz p4 ?
This far from removing it entirely and going back to Gentoo.
62 • RE: Suse 9.3 (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-07-01 23:07:26 GMT from Italy)
"Why is it this distro seems to limp like a lame dog on my 3.0ghz p4 ?"
SUSE and Gentoo couldn't be more different, opposite almost, from any point of view.
But having said that, almost every distro is faster than SUSE. My favourites are Debian/Debian based, and certainly they are a lot faster than SUSE.
There is only one feature that I really like about SUSE: "repair an installed system" from CD: it can save plenty of time if you are an experienced user, it can save your skin if you are a newbie.
63 • SUSE 9.3 (by Josh on 2005-07-02 02:23:42 GMT from United States)
I got the SUSE 9.2 DVD from a mag. Did not like it, ran very bad on my AMD 64 3000+ PC. But it ran great on my 6 year old Dell. Hope 9.3 is better
64 • Re: Suse 9.3 (by Ariszló on 2005-07-02 08:56:11 GMT from Hungary)
Anonymous Penguin wrote: But having said that, almost every distro is faster than SUSE. My favourites are Debian/Debian based, and certainly they are a lot faster than SUSE.
First a question:
Anonymous Penguin wrote: Do you have some serious benchmarking which can confirm that?
SUSE performs much better on my machines than Fedora.
65 • Speed (by Ariszló on 2005-07-02 09:12:07 GMT from Hungary)
When I first read comments in which some users praised Debian or Fedora as fast distros, all I could think was that love is blind. But perhaps they are all running their beloved distributions on an x86_64 machine where they are not as unbearably slow as they are on a Pentium 4?
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| • Issue 1099 (2024-12-02): AnduinOS 1.0.1, measuring RAM usage, SUSE continues rebranding efforts, UBports prepares for next major version, Murena offering non-NFC phone |
| • Issue 1098 (2024-11-25): Linux Lite 7.2, backing up specific folders, Murena and Fairphone partner in fair trade deal, Arch installer gets new text interface, Ubuntu security tool patched |
| • Issue 1097 (2024-11-18): Chimera Linux vs Chimera OS, choosing between AlmaLinux and Debian, Fedora elevates KDE spin to an edition, Fedora previews new installer, KDE testing its own distro, Qubes-style isolation coming to FreeBSD |
| • Issue 1096 (2024-11-11): Bazzite 40, Playtron OS Alpha 1, Tucana Linux 3.1, detecting Screen sessions, Redox imports COSMIC software centre, FreeBSD booting on the PinePhone Pro, LXQt supports Wayland window managers |
| • Issue 1095 (2024-11-04): Fedora 41 Kinoite, transferring applications between computers, openSUSE Tumbleweed receives multiple upgrades, Ubuntu testing compiler optimizations, Mint partners with Framework |
| • Issue 1094 (2024-10-28): DebLight OS 1, backing up crontab, AlmaLinux introduces Litten branch, openSUSE unveils refreshed look, Ubuntu turns 20
| | • Issue 1093 (2024-10-21): Kubuntu 24.10, atomic vs immutable distributions, Debian upgrading Perl packages, UBports adding VoLTE support, Android to gain native GNU/Linux application support |
| • Issue 1092 (2024-10-14): FunOS 24.04.1, a home directory inside a file, work starts of openSUSE Leap 16.0, improvements in Haiku, KDE neon upgrades its base |
| • Issue 1091 (2024-10-07): Redox OS 0.9.0, Unified package management vs universal package formats, Redox begins RISC-V port, Mint polishes interface, Qubes certifies new laptop |
| • Issue 1090 (2024-09-30): Rhino Linux 2024.2, commercial distros with alternative desktops, Valve seeks to improve Wayland performance, HardenedBSD parterns with Protectli, Tails merges with Tor Project, Quantum Leap partners with the FreeBSD Foundation |
| • Issue 1089 (2024-09-23): Expirion 6.0, openKylin 2.0, managing configuration files, the future of Linux development, fixing bugs in Haiku, Slackware packages dracut |
| • Issue 1088 (2024-09-16): PorteuX 1.6, migrating from Windows 10 to which Linux distro, making NetBSD immutable, AlmaLinux offers hardware certification, Mint updates old APT tools |
| • Issue 1087 (2024-09-09): COSMIC desktop, running cron jobs at variable times, UBports highlights new apps, HardenedBSD offers work around for FreeBSD change, Debian considers how to cull old packages, systemd ported to musl |
| • Issue 1086 (2024-09-02): Vanilla OS 2, command line tips for simple tasks, FreeBSD receives investment from STF, openSUSE Tumbleweed update can break network connections, Debian refreshes media |
| • Issue 1085 (2024-08-26): Nobara 40, OpenMandriva 24.07 "ROME", distros which include source code, FreeBSD publishes quarterly report, Microsoft updates breaks Linux in dual-boot environments |
| • Issue 1084 (2024-08-19): Liya 2.0, dual boot with encryption, Haiku introduces performance improvements, Gentoo dropping IA-64, Redcore merges major upgrade |
| • Issue 1083 (2024-08-12): TrueNAS 24.04.2 "SCALE", Linux distros for smartphones, Redox OS introduces web server, PipeWire exposes battery drain on Linux, Canonical updates kernel version policy |
| • Issue 1082 (2024-08-05): Linux Mint 22, taking snapshots of UFS on FreeBSD, openSUSE updates Tumbleweed and Aeon, Debian creates Tiny QA Tasks, Manjaro testing immutable images |
| • Issue 1081 (2024-07-29): SysLinuxOS 12.4, OpenBSD gain hardware acceleration, Slackware changes kernel naming, Mint publishes upgrade instructions |
| • Issue 1080 (2024-07-22): Running GNU/Linux on Android with Andronix, protecting network services, Solus dropping AppArmor and Snap, openSUSE Aeon Desktop gaining full disk encryption, SUSE asks openSUSE to change its branding |
| • Issue 1079 (2024-07-15): Ubuntu Core 24, hiding files on Linux, Fedora dropping X11 packages on Workstation, Red Hat phasing out GRUB, new OpenSSH vulnerability, FreeBSD speeds up release cycle, UBports testing new first-run wizard |
| • Issue 1078 (2024-07-08): Changing init software, server machines running desktop environments, OpenSSH vulnerability patched, Peppermint launches new edition, HardenedBSD updates ports |
| • Issue 1077 (2024-07-01): The Unity and Lomiri interfaces, different distros for different tasks, Ubuntu plans to run Wayland on NVIDIA cards, openSUSE updates Leap Micro, Debian releases refreshed media, UBports gaining contact synchronisation, FreeDOS celebrates its 30th anniversary |
| • Issue 1076 (2024-06-24): openSUSE 15.6, what makes Linux unique, SUSE Liberty Linux to support CentOS Linux 7, SLE receives 19 years of support, openSUSE testing Leap Micro edition |
| • Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
| • Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
| • Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
| • Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
| • Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
| • Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
| • Issue 1069 (2024-05-06): Ubuntu 24.04, installing packages in alternative locations, systemd creates sudo alternative, Mint encourages XApps collaboration, FreeBSD publishes quarterly update |
| • Issue 1068 (2024-04-29): Fedora 40, transforming one distro into another, Debian elects new Project Leader, Red Hat extends support cycle, Emmabuntus adds accessibility features, Canonical's new security features |
| • Issue 1067 (2024-04-22): LocalSend for transferring files, detecting supported CPU architecure levels, new visual design for APT, Fedora and openSUSE working on reproducible builds, LXQt released, AlmaLinux re-adds hardware support |
| • Issue 1066 (2024-04-15): Fun projects to do with the Raspberry Pi and PinePhone, installing new software on fixed-release distributions, improving GNOME Terminal performance, Mint testing new repository mirrors, Gentoo becomes a Software In the Public Interest project |
| • Issue 1065 (2024-04-08): Dr.Parted Live 24.03, answering questions about the xz exploit, Linux Mint to ship HWE kernel, AlmaLinux patches flaw ahead of upstream Red Hat, Calculate changes release model |
| • Issue 1064 (2024-04-01): NixOS 23.11, the status of Hurd, liblzma compromised upstream, FreeBSD Foundation focuses on improving wireless networking, Ubuntu Pro offers 12 years of support |
| • Issue 1063 (2024-03-25): Redcore Linux 2401, how slowly can a rolling release update, Debian starts new Project Leader election, Red Hat creating new NVIDIA driver, Snap store hit with more malware |
| • Issue 1062 (2024-03-18): KDE neon 20240304, changing file permissions, Canonical turns 20, Pop!_OS creates new software centre, openSUSE packages Plasma 6 |
| • Issue 1061 (2024-03-11): Using a PinePhone as a workstation, restarting background services on a schedule, NixBSD ports Nix to FreeBSD, Fedora packaging COSMIC, postmarketOS to adopt systemd, Linux Mint replacing HexChat |
| • Issue 1060 (2024-03-04): AV Linux MX-23.1, bootstrapping a network connection, key OpenBSD features, Qubes certifies new hardware, LXQt and Plasma migrate to Qt 6 |
| • Issue 1059 (2024-02-26): Warp Terminal, navigating manual pages, malware found in the Snap store, Red Hat considering CPU requirement update, UBports organizes ongoing work |
| • Issue 1058 (2024-02-19): Drauger OS 7.6, how much disk space to allocate, System76 prepares to launch COSMIC desktop, UBports changes its version scheme, TrueNAS to offer faster deduplication |
| • Issue 1057 (2024-02-12): Adelie Linux 1.0 Beta, rolling release vs fixed for a smoother experience, Debian working on 2038 bug, elementary OS to split applications from base system updates, Fedora announces Atomic Desktops |
| • Issue 1056 (2024-02-05): wattOS R13, the various write speeds of ISO writing tools, DSL returns, Mint faces Wayland challenges, HardenedBSD blocks foreign USB devices, Gentoo publishes new repository, Linux distros patch glibc flaw |
| • Issue 1055 (2024-01-29): CNIX OS 231204, distributions patching packages the most, Gentoo team presents ongoing work, UBports introduces connectivity and battery improvements, interview with Haiku developer |
| • Issue 1054 (2024-01-22): Solus 4.5, comparing dd and cp when writing ISO files, openSUSE plans new major Leap version, XeroLinux shutting down, HardenedBSD changes its build schedule |
| • Issue 1053 (2024-01-15): Linux AI voice assistants, some distributions running hotter than others, UBports talks about coming changes, Qubes certifies StarBook laptops, Asahi Linux improves energy savings |
| • Issue 1052 (2024-01-08): OpenMandriva Lx 5.0, keeping shell commands running when theterminal closes, Mint upgrades Edge kernel, Vanilla OS plans big changes, Canonical working to make Snap more cross-platform |
| • Issue 1051 (2024-01-01): Favourite distros of 2023, reloading shell settings, Asahi Linux releases Fedora remix, Gentoo offers binary packages, openSUSE provides full disk encryption |
| • Issue 1050 (2023-12-18): rlxos 2023.11, renaming files and opening terminal windows in specific directories, TrueNAS publishes ZFS fixes, Debian publishes delayed install media, Haiku polishes desktop experience |
| • Issue 1049 (2023-12-11): Lernstick 12, alternatives to WINE, openSUSE updates its branding, Mint unveils new features, Lubuntu team plans for 24.04 |
| • Issue 1048 (2023-12-04): openSUSE MicroOS, the transition from X11 to Wayland, Red Hat phasing out X11 packages, UBports making mobile development easier |
| • Issue 1047 (2023-11-27): GhostBSD 23.10.1, Why Linux uses swap when memory is free, Ubuntu Budgie may benefit from Wayland work in Xfce, early issues with FreeBSD 14.0 |
| • Issue 1046 (2023-11-20): Slackel 7.7 "Openbox", restricting CPU usage, Haiku improves font handling and software centre performance, Canonical launches MicroCloud |
| • Issue 1045 (2023-11-13): Fedora 39, how to trust software packages, ReactOS booting with UEFI, elementary OS plans to default to Wayland, Mir gaining ability to split work across video cards |
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Ojuba was a Fedora-based Linux distribution whose main focus was to provide the best Arabic support, as well as some Islamic tools such as Hijra (Hijri calendar) and Minbar (prayer time indicator). It was available as an installation DVD or installable live CD.
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