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| DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 69, 4 October 2004 |
Welcome to this year's 39th edition of DistroWatch Weekly. If you haven't pre-ordered your OpenBSD 3.6 CD set, now is the time to do as they started shipping, a month earlier than expected! Also, we have some news about the upcoming SUSE LINUX 9.2. Enjoy!
Content:
Newsletter for Ubuntu users, OpenBSD 3.6 CDs now shipping
 The developers of Ubuntu Linux, a new high-profile Debian-based Linux distribution, have launched a weekly newsletter called Ubuntu Traffic: "This list began as a summary of the discussions that take place on the Sounder/Ubuntu email list and IRC channel. With the Ubuntu release, Ubuntu Traffic will become a summary of the most important Ubuntu related mailing list and IRC traffic on all lists." The latest issue covers a lots of interesting topics, such as new Ubuntu artwork, daily ISO images, and the economics of Ubuntu (inclusive of a reply by Ubuntu's founder Mark Shuttleworth). It also mentions the release date of Ubuntu Linux 4.10 final, which was set to the October 20th. This is a good place to keep up-to-date with the development and other interesting topics related to this increasingly popular distribution.
 The OpenBSD 3.6 CD sets are now shipping, a whole month before the product's official release on November 1st. From an announcement by Theo de Raadt: "The 3.6 CDs have arrived in Calgary. (They are early because of I am presenting a talk in Malaysia). The CDs will start shipping out in the next few days to those who have ordered them already. Unlike the staffing disaster last time, it sounds like things are working very well. Enjoy them, and thanks for your support." Unfortunately, pre-orders have been disappointing thus far. If you enjoy the product and wish to support it, visit the the OpenBSD online store and get your very own 3-CD set of OpenBSD 3.6 (US$45). Needless to say, the accompanying release song is also out and available in mp3 or ogg formats.
 The SME Server project has been acquired by Lycoris: "Effective immediately, Contribs.org and the development and support of the SME Server will be handled by Lycoris." For those unfamiliar with the Red Hat-based SME Server distribution, it was originally known as e-smith and developed by a company of the same name, before the product was taken over by MITEL. Late last year, MITEL announced that it would no longer provide a free edition of SME Server and handed the product over to the SME server user community at Contribs.org. The project looked half-dead before Lycoris took control over it last week. On surface, it seems like a positive development for SME Server; however (please forgive us our scepticism), Lycoris has a history of unfulfilled product plans (what happened to Beryl which meant to be released after Update 3?), denials of its own press releases, and poor customer relations. The company now promises "a commitment to continued GPL development and availability" of SME Server, but given its past, we never know if we can believe it or not. Only time will tell.
 The Gentoo project has announced a poll to decide the winner of the Gentoo web site redesign contest: "Voting is finally underway in the Gentoo web site redesign contest. The five finalist entries may be viewed at the contest page. It is now up to the Gentoo community to choose the winning design." The Gentoo web site has seen very little changes since the early beginnings of the project and most users will agree that a redesign was in order. If you are interested in helping to choose the winner, head for the Gentoo forums and cast your vote; only four more days remain before the winner is announced.
Finally, looking through the first three days of webalizer statistics on the DistroWatch.com web server, the recent trend among this site's visitors to replace their ancient and bug-ridden Microsoft Internet Explorer with lean, secure and feature-rich Firefox has been further confirmed. This month, Firefox has become the leading web browser with a market share of almost 27%, while MSIE's share dropped to less than 23% (from over 60% three years ago). Mozilla has 14% and Opera 9%. Although it is natural to expect a higher percentage of open source browsers on a web site devoted to Linux and BSD, it is always nice to see that the new generation Gecko browsers now represent the dominant browsing tools for most of our visitors. Way to go!
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| Featured distribution of the week: Bayanihan Linux |
Bayanihan Linux
Continuing with our introductions to less well-known Linux distributions, this week's featured project is Bayanihan Linux. Sponsored by Advanced Science and Technology Institute (ASTI) in the Philippines, Bayanihan Linux is a free, single-CD, Fedora-based distribution in English, designed to ease migration from Windows to Linux. Version 3.1, released last week, features up-to-date software with KDE 3.3.0 as its default desktop, well-designed and logical menu structures, as well as compatibility with Windows applications through WINE. The latest Firefox browser and OpenOffice.org office suite are also included. The excellent online manual with plenty of step-by-step instructions and screenshots is a cherry on the top, especially since so many other Linux distributions tend to neglect the importance of good documentation.
The word "Bayanihan" represents a Filipino tradition where people in a community help their neighbour in physically moving their house to a different location. This is perhaps a good analogy to be used when migrating to a new operating system as well, with FAQs, developer's mailing list and IRC channel (web based user forums are under construction) ready to offer assistance to users. The project sports a good-looking web site with new features being added regularly and new distribution releases produced roughly every 6 months since version 1.0 released in June 2002.
Bayanihan Linux 3.1 is a well-crafted, up-to-date distribution, designed with non-technical users in mind. To find out more, visit the project's web site and start downloading. You won't be disappointed!
Bayanihan Linux 3.1 - a well-designed and up-to-date distribution for non-technical users.
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| Released Last Week |
Càtix 1.0.1
Càtix is a Knoppix-based live CD developed by TecnoCampus Mataró in Barcelona in cooperation with Softcatalà to distribute 60,000 Càtix live CDs to the Catalan-speaking public in Spain. Version 1.0.1, released yesterday, is mostly a bug fix release of the earlier Càtix 1.0; however, it does include improved hardware auto-detection routines. There are comprehensive release notes (in Catalan) if you need further details.
Càtix 1.0.1 - an instant operating system for Catalan speakers
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Bayanihan Linux 3.1
Bayanihan Linux 3.1 has been released: "Bayanihan Linux 3.1 is the fourth major release of the Bayanihan Linux operating system. The software applications included in this release are the latest packages available to date. System features: graphical desktop; Internet ready; office productivity suite; Windows emulation, filesystem and sharing support; multimedia playback of CD, MP3, DVD, VCD and AVI; CD/DVD burning capability; educational applications; image editing tools; better support for removable devices." Read the full release announcement for details.
CRUX 2.0 (PPC edition)
The PPC edition of CRUX 2.0 has been released: "The long awaited CRUX PPC version 2.0 is now available. Supports Apple and Pegasos II systems, uses Linux kernel 2.6.8.1 and Native Posix Threads Library (TLS/NPTL). Ready for ALSA and IPv6. See the download page!" CRUX PPC isa PPC port of the fast and light-weight CRUX Linux distribution for Apple's NewWorld PowerPC computers; for further information please visit the project's web site.
Yellow Dog Linux 4.0
Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 has been released: "Terra Soft Solutions, Inc., the leading developer of integrated PowerPC Linux solutions, is pleased to announce release of Yellow Dog Linux v4.0. The final Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 CD-Rs have been created and will today be delivered to a CD production facility for glass mastering and replication. Six months in development, Yellow Dog Linux v4.0 is built upon Fedora Core 2, offering both KDE 3.3 and GNOME 2.6.0 desktops with an all new presentation for both the Installer and post-installed desktop environment. Included applications are OpenOffice 1.1.1, Rhythmbox 0.8.3, Mozilla 1.7 and development tools glibc 2.3.3 and gcc 3.3.3 built upon the 32-bit kernel 2.6.8." Read the official press release for further details.
Damn Small Linux 0.8.2
A new version of Damn Small Linux has been released. From the changelog: "0.8.2: added ndiswrapper with GUI; added add users to live CD with GUI; improved dial-up PPP with controlling GUI; added prims2 setup GUI; frugal mounted read/write, backup/restore & mydsl in a single partition; added emelfm as super-user menu item; changed colors of mc when launched from menu; added View in Scite emelfm user command."
Lineox Enterprise Linux 2.1
Lineox has released Lineox Enterprise Linux 2.1, a distribution built from source RPMs for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1, inclusive of errata and security updates: "The main reason for making Lineox Enterprise Linux 2.1 was to create a platform on which to build updated packages from source packages published by Red Hat, Inc. which continue to be available up to May 31 2009. Lineox plans to use these packages to keep some of our servers updated, which are still running Red Hat 7.2-based Spectra Linux 1.1. Always Current Lineox Enterprise Linux 2.1.007 contains all available updates including Update 5." Read the rest of the release announcement for details.
AGNULA/DeMuDi 1.2.0
A new stable version of the AGNULA/DeMuDi audio distribution is out: "AGNULA/DeMuDI 1.2.0, the Debian-based GNU/Linux distribution for audio, has been released. This release is first of the 1.2.x series, which sports tighter integration with Debian, using the Sarge Debian Installer and the CDD (Custom Debian Distributions) framework. Highlights: installer - running apt-get update in case network is available; configuration - added a cfengine script to properly set /dev/dsp /dev/mixers links and permissions; kernel - applied i2c and lm-sensors patches; menus - added missing menu entry for Gnome Wave Cleaner in Sound/DSP; applications - added gtkguitune to the DSP task, lm-sensors and sensord to the packages installed by default, GEM to the Synthesis task...." Read the full announcement and FAQs for further details.
AGNULA/DeMuDi 1.2.0 - a new version of the specialist Debian-based audio distribution.
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IPCop Firewall 1.4.0
18 months have passed since the last stable release of IPCop Firewall, but now we have a pleasure to report that a brand new version is finally out: "The IPCop team is proud to announce the final 1.4.0 release today! IPCop Linux is a complete Linux distribution whose sole purpose is to protect the networkson which it is installed. It is extremely easy for anyone to install and configure. Frequently, the IPCop firewall can be installed within 10 to 15 minutes. Changes: build system uses LFS (Linux from Scratch); new GUI; new supported hardware includes: SCSI hardware, PCMCIA hardware, Speedtouch PPPoE, AVM Fritz!DSL...; new features include: support ACPI, uni- and multi-processor systems, SSP Stack Smashing Protection and libsafe, intrusion detection SNORT (for all interfaces), traffic shaping...." See the rest of the release announcement for a complete list of changes.
Vidalinux Desktop OS 1.0
The first stable version of Vidalinux Desktop OS has been released and is available for download via BitTorrent or purchase (US$30): "VLOS (Vidalinux Desktop OS) is a powerful, stable and easy to use new Linux distribution. The desktop components are based on the best projects of the open source community including GNOME desktop environment, OpenOffice.org, Ximian productivity suite, Mozilla browser, Evolution mail and calendar client, Gentoo Linux system and Portage package manager. Vidalinux Desktop OS is the only system which includes additional multimedia and productivity applications for the home user including media players, browser plugins for Flash, RealPlayer, PDF viewer, media, graphics design and administration tools." Visit the project's web site for further information.
Development and unannounced releases
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| Upcoming Releases and Announcements |
Ubuntu Linux 4.10
The first stable version of Ubuntu will be released on October 20th: "Release manager Jeff Waugh announced the (new) release date for the final version of Ubuntu. To get some extra testing exposure for our very first (YAYAYA!) release, Mark has suggested that we push out a release candidate on the 13th, and our final release on the 20th of October. The release schedule has been updated for this change. Matt Zimmerman seemed mildly concerned that it was being moved to a day other than his birthday. Matt: your Ubuntu Traffic editor feels for you." The full story.
SUSE LINUX 9.2
According to this notice (in German), the next release of SUSE LINUX will be version 9.2 and it should be available on November 1st in Germany (incidentally, Fedora Core 3 will be released on the same day). In fact, Amazon UK is already taking pre-orders for the product: see SUSE LINUX 9.2 Professional (£58.49) and SUSE LINUX 9.2 Professional Upgrade (£41.39), with the projected shipping date on November 5th. Expect a formal product announcement from SUSE within the next few days/weeks.
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September donation: K3b receives US$350
Many thanks to those who have taken the time to nominate a project for our September donation last week. Although XFce ended up with the most nominations, the project does not have facilities to accept donations at present. That meant the our September donation could only go to K3b, a project that received the second highest number of nominations. The September donation totalled €280 (about US$350). As always, our donation programme is a joint initiative between DistroWatch and LinuxCD.org, which contributed US$50. LinuxCD.org is an online store selling low-cost Linux/BSD CDs - they have the largest selection, inclusive of all the latest releases, and they offer the lowest prices. Next time you need to order your favourite Linux or BSD CDs, get them from LinuxCD.org.
Most of you frequenting DistroWatch won't need an explanation of what K3b is - especially since it has emerged as the runaway leader in graphical CD/DVD burning applications under Linux and BSD. Those who frequently download large ISO images of Linux distributions undoubtedly appreciate the clear user interface and easy drag-and-drop functionality (anybody still remembers X-CD-Roast)? The developer of K3b, Sebastian Trueg, has emailed us to say "thank you", after first making sure that the donation is real: "What the h...? Is this real? Did you really want to donate 280 Euros? I think I had a really stupid look on my face when I saw the mail... :)"
Here is the PayPal receipt for our donation:
This email confirms that you have paid trueg@k3b.org 280.00 EUR using PayPal.
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Payment Details:
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Total Amount: 280.00 EUR
Transaction ID: 2K408897TP551592A
Quantity: 1
Item Title: K3b Development Donation
This is the list of projects that received a DistroWatch donation since the launch of the programme:
New distribution additions
- StartCom Enterprise Linux. StartCom Enterprise Linux, which is based on the Red Hat AS source code, is the ultimate solution for middle-size servers to large data centres. The current version supports the largest commodity-architecture servers with up to 16 CPUs and 64GB (on x86 systems) of main memory, Global File System - for highly scalable, high performance data sharing in multi-system configurations. Included in this distribution is a comprehensive collection of open source server applications like mail, file (SMB/NFS), DNS, web, FTP, and a complete desktop environment.
New on the waiting list
- Phaeronix. Phaeronix is a SLAX-based live CD full of all kinds of software, with a strong bias towards normal users' needs - multimedia, office and Internet programs.
DistroWatch database summary
- Number of Linux distributions in the database: 339
- Number of BSD distributions in the database: 9
- Number of discontinued distributions: 40
- Number of distributions on the waiting list: 80
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Encouraging Linux projects
Our coverage of Hiweed Desktop last week resulted in a lot of excitement (in Chinese) on the project's web site. The lead developer (who has chosen to remain anonymous) felt strongly encouraged by our report and wowed to continue the development of Hiweed Desktop. Many users of the distribution offered their congratulations and support for the project. Best of luck, Hiweed, we are looking forward to your next release!
That's all for today, see you again next Monday!
Ladislav Bodnar
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1 • my first comment (by fm on 2004-10-04 10:40:33 GMT)
wow, me first.
I read every day distrowatch.com. Ok I know, I lied. I read it twice a day . :)
Anyway I just wanted to know if it is just me , or Mandrake is being silent lately.After they made a contract with the French government they have been very inactive in the press. That is not familiar for Mandrake.
Anybody knows what is going on?
2 • Donations (by *NixUser on 2004-10-04 10:56:45 GMT)
I am not sure if a dontation was already submitted to Mozilla.org; in honour of being the (now) top-ranked browser on distrowatch, I see it as fitting (imho).
Side note; is there a running list of donations that have already been presented? Just curious.
3 • RE: Donations (by ladislav at 2004-10-04 12:04:02 GMT)
Is there a running list of donations that have already been presented?
OK, I've updated the story to include all recipients of past donations - see the donations section above.
4 • Mandrake (by Nick at 2004-10-04 13:37:06 GMT)
I am baffled to see that Mandrake is always the #1 distro on distrowatch.
5 • please can u set a montly newsletter (by rzr at 2004-10-04 13:50:15 GMT)
please can u set a montly newsletter
6 • X-CD-Roast (by Lino on 2004-10-04 13:52:16 GMT)
I like k3b and I use it, but I have to admit that I prefer X-CD-Roast. Here is the reason.
It has a simple GUI that takes some get-used-to and could be confusing for new users, but when you know your way around it becomes easy to use, in my opinion easier then k3b. And it's fast.
Compared with k3b it is quicker to start and faster in blanking CD-RW. It also doesn't automatically check md5sum as k3b does when you burn an ISO image, a feature that I sometimes found annoyng.
And it's not difficult to get used to it, still a lot easier then CLI. It does require basic knowledge of CD burning though. I think that's where k3b comes in.
7 • Nice (by Charles at 2004-10-04 13:55:52 GMT)
Ladislav,
I think it is awesome that you are making these donations to open source projects. Kudos to you.
8 • HAIL non IE browsers (by crawancon at 2004-10-04 14:58:29 GMT)
please minus one off of the IE user statistics. Although im at work and have no choice but to surf here with IE, in my heart im using firefox. :-)
oh how i yearn to go home and use it. i miss my tabbed browsing.
9 • RE: HAIL non IE browsers (by SyntaxError at 2004-10-04 15:47:57 GMT)
Dude, if you dare, you can download the zip version of Mozilla Firefox and unzip it, say, in My Documents folder, you get yourself a non-IE browser at work!
That's how I avoid IE except for work specific.
10 • Im a big fan (by Robby at 2004-10-04 17:07:42 GMT)
This is a great donation project, Im going to make a donation to Vidalinux as well, thanks Ladislav.
11 • OpenBSD (by Jochem at 2004-10-04 17:57:05 GMT)
My vote for the next donation goes to the OpenBSD project; their work influences a lot of other projects (OpenSSH anyone?), they work hard to deserve it, and they need it...
12 • next donation and "Bayanihan" (by Daniel at 2004-10-04 18:47:54 GMT)
I'd like to see this project http://autopackage.org/ receiving next month's donation, for making so much for the new Linux-users, especially those comming from Windows.
Also, I'm afraid but "Bayanihan" web-site wasn't available in the last 2 weeks, at all...
13 • re: Donations (by Luk van den Borne at 2004-10-04 18:48:10 GMT)
K3B is a project that really deserves donation imho. I would like to nominate Arch Linux or Ubuntu Linux. Mandrake is a commercial company and should be able to stand on its own feet, otherwise it won't be useful donating to it anyway. The projects that really can use the donation are not for profit projects imho.
14 • • RE: HAIL non IE browsers (by Undecided at 2004-10-04 19:49:16 GMT)
I have been unable to locate a .ZIP English version of Firefox for download. Does anyone have the URL ??
15 • re: Donations written by Luk van den Borne (by Anonymous on 2004-10-04 20:55:54 GMT)
Ubuntu Linux is backed by www.canonical.com a commercial company and by your admission should stand on its own.
16 • nomination (by Olap at 2004-10-04 21:11:59 GMT)
my nomination is for Arch linux, there is only a small group of developers (compared to most) and they do and incredable job at maintaining a huge pakage base that is the most upto date in any distro. Also the idea behind the project makes this project worthy too
17 • ..IEBrowser (by Ajax at 2004-10-04 21:17:48 GMT)
It is now known by everyone (or shouldI say anyone literate to the internet) that Internet Explorer has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.There are many alternatives to Explorer. My favorite is Opera Browser. I think Opera is full of useful features for the novice user or the experienced user, and is fully customizable. Mozilla is now becoming a target for spammers..therefore I do not suggest using Mozilla, but Firefox is also the ultimate browser for those of you wanting to deploy and use the Gecko based browser.
18 • Mandrake (by JGabriel66 on 2004-10-04 21:21:00 GMT)
Nick: "I am baffled to see that Mandrake is always the #1 distro on distrowatch."
It's not that baffling when you think about it.
It's a result of three factors:
A) Newcomers click on it a lot, because they want to check out the "top" requested distro. I. E., there's a feedback effect.
B) Even the shortest time frame offered for viewing statistics is "1 Month". This adds to the feedback effect, since a distro has to be on top for quite a while to move up.
C) Many users are newcomers. Mandrake offers and advertises a simple, friendly, configuration process that will appeal to them. While many of us know that several other distro's now offer *equally* easy install routines, Mandrake remains at the top because none of them offer a *significantly better* new user experience. And they've got to be better - or at least marketed better - not just as good, to knock Mandrake out of that top spot.
19 • Donation suggestion (by EEDOK at 2004-10-04 21:41:25 GMT)
I agree with the others who say Arch, they have produced a very fine distro, without having a million users contribute or a corperate backing..
20 • next donation: pyGame!!! (by EdCrypt at 2004-10-04 22:51:34 GMT)
Ladislav, great job.
I think the next donation should go to pyGame. It's a great project. 'Game' is a serious thing today!!!
21 • Firefox in zip format -- for Windows (by SyntaxError at 2004-10-04 22:54:50 GMT)
Here is the link to Firefox in the zip file. Just unzip it to a folder and run Firefox from there.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10.1/Firefox%201.0PR.zip
22 • Re: HAIL non IE browsers (by crawancon at 2004-10-04 23:58:50 GMT)
ahhhh good to be home and have my tabs.
a short note about IE. for those users content with the popupblock from SP2, you're still at risk, especially to the jpeg exploit. just try firefox or opera.
as for donations, i've already mailed my nomination, but i'll still add that morphix be nominated... they've released a morphix based ubuntu live cd and working on a userlinux livecd., all while working on .05.
23 • Lycoris - I've said it before.... (by lugnut on 2004-10-05 03:33:50 GMT)
and I'll say it again; great product (Desktop/LX), lousy customer relations. And that's with their flagship product. Why should we think that things will be better in regards to SME Server?
later
24 • re: Donations (by Anonymous on 2004-10-05 04:59:10 GMT)
Ubuntu? What not Debian which it's based on and which is also the base for so many other distributions?
25 • Specifix (by Ariszló at 2004-10-05 06:57:25 GMT)
Tried Specifix and was amazed. It's still in alpha but it's more stable on my machine than many other distros. And it gives you Gnome 2.8 as it is. No KDE, though.
26 • Donation (by Holger on 2004-10-05 07:12:34 GMT)
I think Mambo should be the one getting the next donation, as they need the money to fight back that crazy guy attacking their licence...
My 5 cents
27 • newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by OutSider at 2004-10-05 08:20:21 GMT)
Anyone knows any good distro for laptops (toshiba a65)? Since I'm a newbie in this biz I just try diffrent distros (my sound card isn't recognized - ac97 realtek and my ati radeon mobile 7000 makes problem with some games in fullscreen). Help will be appreciated and blessed :]
28 • donation (by discoman at 2004-10-05 15:05:18 GMT)
i'd like to nominate gaim for this months donation- i'm a big-time chat junkie, and i don't think i'd have survived long in the world of linux without people to talk me through it, most of whom sit in the linux chatroom on yahoo that i access through gaim. i love the distrowatch site, although i'm pretty firmly settled on kanotix being my distro of choice, it's always nice to see what's in the news and to do some comparing and note-taking. keep up the great work :)
29 • Re: newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by Ariszló at 2004-10-05 16:13:18 GMT)
Try this:
http://www.linuxforums.org
30 • donation (by Marian at 2004-10-05 17:58:09 GMT)
i'd like to nominate slackware . why? find out.
31 • re: ubuntu (by Luk van den Borne at 2004-10-05 19:48:42 GMT)
Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. But my no 1 vote was for Arch anyway. Did you think Slack or xBSD is simple(not simple as in newbie simple, but as in simplicity)? Try Arch. Also, it's very fast and has an impressive amount of packages to choose from.
32 • mixed results with slackware (by gnobuddy at 2004-10-05 21:11:23 GMT)
I recently tried Slackware for the first time in my four years or so of messing with Linux. (I dumped Windows about three years ago and have been Linux-only since then).
I had mixed results with it (Slackware 10). It seems to work very well on my older Duron 1300 box (Via motherboard). Fast, stable, and one of only two distros on which everything I try to compile from source actually compiles and runs (Gentoo being the other). But on my newer Athlon XP 2400+/Gigabit nforce2/dual-channel DDR box, I experienced total lock-ups every so often, requiring a hard reboot. I think SSH may have been the trigger for the freeze-ups...but I don't know for sure.
For now its back to Gentoo...I can't live with frequent total freeze-ups.
-Gnobuddy
33 • Vote for Arch! (by John on 2004-10-06 08:04:48 GMT)
My Vote goes to Arch Linux. It's about time this awesome distro gets appreciated!
34 • Re: Vote for Arch (by Ariszlo at 2004-10-06 08:11:39 GMT)
If I have to vote for a distro other than my favorite one then I'd rather vote for Arch than Ubuntu. Unlike Ubuntu, it's fast and reliable and does not worship the One-One-One philosophy (One OS, One Desktop, One Application of a Kind).
35 • HPD / Rank table (by Tomislav Djokic at 2004-10-06 22:49:54 GMT)
This is not fair: my PCLinuxOS works well and now I don't have a need to click on PCLinuxOS in your Rank table and so its HPD is smoller and smoller. Is there some possibility to make another Rank table: Satisfied user table or Your Linux table, something like that, to see REAL rank of diferent ditributions?
36 • re: newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by Andrei Oprisan at 2004-10-07 14:05:19 GMT)
I have a toshiba laptop too (a75) and slackware (with the 2.4.X series kernel) works perfectly on it (only the winmodem isn't recognized, but I don't really use it as it sees my wireless card...)
I've tried many distros on it (knoppix, pclinux, gnoppix, mandrake, etc.) and slackware is the only one that works with it. I was really surprised that knoppix didn't see my sound and wireless card...
hope this helps,
Andrei Oprisan
37 • Camino & PPC (by Mark V at 2004-10-08 01:44:25 GMT)
Ladislav: I use Camino for OSX which is a gecko build from Mozilla. It is fast and is intergrated into Aqua. Does your counter get me as firefox?
Also i fix up old computers for the folks in the neiborhood and have settled on old Mac's which seem to have less problems. Anyway to sort distro by processor?
Finally how about adding Darwin,GNU-Darwin to list?
38 • I second autopackage (by Alex on 2004-10-09 05:49:01 GMT)
This is very important for the future of Linux when we have so many distributions.
39 • Debian or Arch (by Vegard Fiksdal at 2004-10-10 01:23:35 GMT)
I dont know wether this is really a poll for the next donation, but if it is I would go for Debian. They have done so much, have such an awesome package base with apt-get. and is the most stable OS Ive ever tried out.
Currently, Im running an Arch installation, and is very pleased with it, its an lovable distro, and I kinda regard it as a "Slack-with-a-decent-package-manager-distro" and love the purity and configurability, but as a whole, I think that Debian has done more for the world than any other distros out there, and Im 100% that I will return to it some day..
40 • Yoper (by Alan Moser at 2004-10-11 04:24:31 GMT)
People have been raving about Arch linux, well there is another distro out there that is great, stable, and up-to-date, and like Arch, is compiled and optimized for the i686 platform. But what is great about Yoper is the fact they have managed to take the best of the Major distros (SaX2, Kudzu, Synaptic/apt-get, Portage/Emerge) and combine it with a from-source distro. But what really kicks the other distros in the butt is their "customer support", which is their forums. I mean, where else can you get a reply for a problem from the HEAD DEVELOPER.
41 • apt-get repositories (by Nitroushhh on 2004-10-11 09:58:12 GMT)
Hi Ladislav,
Seeing package lists from distros' daily builds, I was wondering if you also list current package versions from a distros' apt-get repository.
If not, is it a policy or just that no-ones interested ???
My thinking was that I find pclinuxos very handy for my media machine. But also, because of their great apt-get repository, I can try out new versions of packages very easily. Via synaptic and their very up-to-date repository.
I think it would be useful for visitors to see versions in apt-get repositories. What do you think ???
Do you have a way for pclinuxos to send you this info to you ?
regards Nitroushhh.
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