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1 • my first comment (by fm on 2004-10-04 10:40:33 GMT)
wow, me first.
I read every day distrowatch.com. Ok I know, I lied. I read it twice a day . :)
Anyway I just wanted to know if it is just me , or Mandrake is being silent lately.After they made a contract with the French government they have been very inactive in the press. That is not familiar for Mandrake.
Anybody knows what is going on?
2 • Donations (by *NixUser on 2004-10-04 10:56:45 GMT)
I am not sure if a dontation was already submitted to Mozilla.org; in honour of being the (now) top-ranked browser on distrowatch, I see it as fitting (imho).
Side note; is there a running list of donations that have already been presented? Just curious.
3 • RE: Donations (by ladislav at 2004-10-04 12:04:02 GMT)
Is there a running list of donations that have already been presented?
OK, I've updated the story to include all recipients of past donations - see the donations section above.
4 • Mandrake (by Nick at 2004-10-04 13:37:06 GMT)
I am baffled to see that Mandrake is always the #1 distro on distrowatch.
5 • please can u set a montly newsletter (by rzr at 2004-10-04 13:50:15 GMT)
please can u set a montly newsletter
6 • X-CD-Roast (by Lino on 2004-10-04 13:52:16 GMT)
I like k3b and I use it, but I have to admit that I prefer X-CD-Roast. Here is the reason.
It has a simple GUI that takes some get-used-to and could be confusing for new users, but when you know your way around it becomes easy to use, in my opinion easier then k3b. And it's fast.
Compared with k3b it is quicker to start and faster in blanking CD-RW. It also doesn't automatically check md5sum as k3b does when you burn an ISO image, a feature that I sometimes found annoyng.
And it's not difficult to get used to it, still a lot easier then CLI. It does require basic knowledge of CD burning though. I think that's where k3b comes in.
7 • Nice (by Charles at 2004-10-04 13:55:52 GMT)
Ladislav,
I think it is awesome that you are making these donations to open source projects. Kudos to you.
8 • HAIL non IE browsers (by crawancon at 2004-10-04 14:58:29 GMT)
please minus one off of the IE user statistics. Although im at work and have no choice but to surf here with IE, in my heart im using firefox. :-)
oh how i yearn to go home and use it. i miss my tabbed browsing.
9 • RE: HAIL non IE browsers (by SyntaxError at 2004-10-04 15:47:57 GMT)
Dude, if you dare, you can download the zip version of Mozilla Firefox and unzip it, say, in My Documents folder, you get yourself a non-IE browser at work!
That's how I avoid IE except for work specific.
10 • Im a big fan (by Robby at 2004-10-04 17:07:42 GMT)
This is a great donation project, Im going to make a donation to Vidalinux as well, thanks Ladislav.
11 • OpenBSD (by Jochem at 2004-10-04 17:57:05 GMT)
My vote for the next donation goes to the OpenBSD project; their work influences a lot of other projects (OpenSSH anyone?), they work hard to deserve it, and they need it...
12 • next donation and "Bayanihan" (by Daniel at 2004-10-04 18:47:54 GMT)
I'd like to see this project http://autopackage.org/ receiving next month's donation, for making so much for the new Linux-users, especially those comming from Windows.
Also, I'm afraid but "Bayanihan" web-site wasn't available in the last 2 weeks, at all...
13 • re: Donations (by Luk van den Borne at 2004-10-04 18:48:10 GMT)
K3B is a project that really deserves donation imho. I would like to nominate Arch Linux or Ubuntu Linux. Mandrake is a commercial company and should be able to stand on its own feet, otherwise it won't be useful donating to it anyway. The projects that really can use the donation are not for profit projects imho.
14 • • RE: HAIL non IE browsers (by Undecided at 2004-10-04 19:49:16 GMT)
I have been unable to locate a .ZIP English version of Firefox for download. Does anyone have the URL ??
15 • re: Donations written by Luk van den Borne (by Anonymous on 2004-10-04 20:55:54 GMT)
Ubuntu Linux is backed by www.canonical.com a commercial company and by your admission should stand on its own.
16 • nomination (by Olap at 2004-10-04 21:11:59 GMT)
my nomination is for Arch linux, there is only a small group of developers (compared to most) and they do and incredable job at maintaining a huge pakage base that is the most upto date in any distro. Also the idea behind the project makes this project worthy too
17 • ..IEBrowser (by Ajax at 2004-10-04 21:17:48 GMT)
It is now known by everyone (or shouldI say anyone literate to the internet) that Internet Explorer has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.There are many alternatives to Explorer. My favorite is Opera Browser. I think Opera is full of useful features for the novice user or the experienced user, and is fully customizable. Mozilla is now becoming a target for spammers..therefore I do not suggest using Mozilla, but Firefox is also the ultimate browser for those of you wanting to deploy and use the Gecko based browser.
18 • Mandrake (by JGabriel66 on 2004-10-04 21:21:00 GMT)
Nick: "I am baffled to see that Mandrake is always the #1 distro on distrowatch."
It's not that baffling when you think about it.
It's a result of three factors:
A) Newcomers click on it a lot, because they want to check out the "top" requested distro. I. E., there's a feedback effect.
B) Even the shortest time frame offered for viewing statistics is "1 Month". This adds to the feedback effect, since a distro has to be on top for quite a while to move up.
C) Many users are newcomers. Mandrake offers and advertises a simple, friendly, configuration process that will appeal to them. While many of us know that several other distro's now offer *equally* easy install routines, Mandrake remains at the top because none of them offer a *significantly better* new user experience. And they've got to be better - or at least marketed better - not just as good, to knock Mandrake out of that top spot.
19 • Donation suggestion (by EEDOK at 2004-10-04 21:41:25 GMT)
I agree with the others who say Arch, they have produced a very fine distro, without having a million users contribute or a corperate backing..
20 • next donation: pyGame!!! (by EdCrypt at 2004-10-04 22:51:34 GMT)
Ladislav, great job.
I think the next donation should go to pyGame. It's a great project. 'Game' is a serious thing today!!!
21 • Firefox in zip format -- for Windows (by SyntaxError at 2004-10-04 22:54:50 GMT)
Here is the link to Firefox in the zip file. Just unzip it to a folder and run Firefox from there.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10.1/Firefox%201.0PR.zip
22 • Re: HAIL non IE browsers (by crawancon at 2004-10-04 23:58:50 GMT)
ahhhh good to be home and have my tabs.
a short note about IE. for those users content with the popupblock from SP2, you're still at risk, especially to the jpeg exploit. just try firefox or opera.
as for donations, i've already mailed my nomination, but i'll still add that morphix be nominated... they've released a morphix based ubuntu live cd and working on a userlinux livecd., all while working on .05.
23 • Lycoris - I've said it before.... (by lugnut on 2004-10-05 03:33:50 GMT)
and I'll say it again; great product (Desktop/LX), lousy customer relations. And that's with their flagship product. Why should we think that things will be better in regards to SME Server?
later
24 • re: Donations (by Anonymous on 2004-10-05 04:59:10 GMT)
Ubuntu? What not Debian which it's based on and which is also the base for so many other distributions?
25 • Specifix (by Ariszló at 2004-10-05 06:57:25 GMT)
Tried Specifix and was amazed. It's still in alpha but it's more stable on my machine than many other distros. And it gives you Gnome 2.8 as it is. No KDE, though.
26 • Donation (by Holger on 2004-10-05 07:12:34 GMT)
I think Mambo should be the one getting the next donation, as they need the money to fight back that crazy guy attacking their licence...
My 5 cents
27 • newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by OutSider at 2004-10-05 08:20:21 GMT)
Anyone knows any good distro for laptops (toshiba a65)? Since I'm a newbie in this biz I just try diffrent distros (my sound card isn't recognized - ac97 realtek and my ati radeon mobile 7000 makes problem with some games in fullscreen). Help will be appreciated and blessed :]
28 • donation (by discoman at 2004-10-05 15:05:18 GMT)
i'd like to nominate gaim for this months donation- i'm a big-time chat junkie, and i don't think i'd have survived long in the world of linux without people to talk me through it, most of whom sit in the linux chatroom on yahoo that i access through gaim. i love the distrowatch site, although i'm pretty firmly settled on kanotix being my distro of choice, it's always nice to see what's in the news and to do some comparing and note-taking. keep up the great work :)
29 • Re: newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by Ariszló at 2004-10-05 16:13:18 GMT)
Try this:
http://www.linuxforums.org
30 • donation (by Marian at 2004-10-05 17:58:09 GMT)
i'd like to nominate slackware . why? find out.
31 • re: ubuntu (by Luk van den Borne at 2004-10-05 19:48:42 GMT)
Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. But my no 1 vote was for Arch anyway. Did you think Slack or xBSD is simple(not simple as in newbie simple, but as in simplicity)? Try Arch. Also, it's very fast and has an impressive amount of packages to choose from.
32 • mixed results with slackware (by gnobuddy at 2004-10-05 21:11:23 GMT)
I recently tried Slackware for the first time in my four years or so of messing with Linux. (I dumped Windows about three years ago and have been Linux-only since then).
I had mixed results with it (Slackware 10). It seems to work very well on my older Duron 1300 box (Via motherboard). Fast, stable, and one of only two distros on which everything I try to compile from source actually compiles and runs (Gentoo being the other). But on my newer Athlon XP 2400+/Gigabit nforce2/dual-channel DDR box, I experienced total lock-ups every so often, requiring a hard reboot. I think SSH may have been the trigger for the freeze-ups...but I don't know for sure.
For now its back to Gentoo...I can't live with frequent total freeze-ups.
-Gnobuddy
33 • Vote for Arch! (by John on 2004-10-06 08:04:48 GMT)
My Vote goes to Arch Linux. It's about time this awesome distro gets appreciated!
34 • Re: Vote for Arch (by Ariszlo at 2004-10-06 08:11:39 GMT)
If I have to vote for a distro other than my favorite one then I'd rather vote for Arch than Ubuntu. Unlike Ubuntu, it's fast and reliable and does not worship the One-One-One philosophy (One OS, One Desktop, One Application of a Kind).
35 • HPD / Rank table (by Tomislav Djokic at 2004-10-06 22:49:54 GMT)
This is not fair: my PCLinuxOS works well and now I don't have a need to click on PCLinuxOS in your Rank table and so its HPD is smoller and smoller. Is there some possibility to make another Rank table: Satisfied user table or Your Linux table, something like that, to see REAL rank of diferent ditributions?
36 • re: newbie needs help with linux for laptop (by Andrei Oprisan at 2004-10-07 14:05:19 GMT)
I have a toshiba laptop too (a75) and slackware (with the 2.4.X series kernel) works perfectly on it (only the winmodem isn't recognized, but I don't really use it as it sees my wireless card...)
I've tried many distros on it (knoppix, pclinux, gnoppix, mandrake, etc.) and slackware is the only one that works with it. I was really surprised that knoppix didn't see my sound and wireless card...
hope this helps,
Andrei Oprisan
37 • Camino & PPC (by Mark V at 2004-10-08 01:44:25 GMT)
Ladislav: I use Camino for OSX which is a gecko build from Mozilla. It is fast and is intergrated into Aqua. Does your counter get me as firefox?
Also i fix up old computers for the folks in the neiborhood and have settled on old Mac's which seem to have less problems. Anyway to sort distro by processor?
Finally how about adding Darwin,GNU-Darwin to list?
38 • I second autopackage (by Alex on 2004-10-09 05:49:01 GMT)
This is very important for the future of Linux when we have so many distributions.
39 • Debian or Arch (by Vegard Fiksdal at 2004-10-10 01:23:35 GMT)
I dont know wether this is really a poll for the next donation, but if it is I would go for Debian. They have done so much, have such an awesome package base with apt-get. and is the most stable OS Ive ever tried out.
Currently, Im running an Arch installation, and is very pleased with it, its an lovable distro, and I kinda regard it as a "Slack-with-a-decent-package-manager-distro" and love the purity and configurability, but as a whole, I think that Debian has done more for the world than any other distros out there, and Im 100% that I will return to it some day..
40 • Yoper (by Alan Moser at 2004-10-11 04:24:31 GMT)
People have been raving about Arch linux, well there is another distro out there that is great, stable, and up-to-date, and like Arch, is compiled and optimized for the i686 platform. But what is great about Yoper is the fact they have managed to take the best of the Major distros (SaX2, Kudzu, Synaptic/apt-get, Portage/Emerge) and combine it with a from-source distro. But what really kicks the other distros in the butt is their "customer support", which is their forums. I mean, where else can you get a reply for a problem from the HEAD DEVELOPER.
41 • apt-get repositories (by Nitroushhh on 2004-10-11 09:58:12 GMT)
Hi Ladislav,
Seeing package lists from distros' daily builds, I was wondering if you also list current package versions from a distros' apt-get repository.
If not, is it a policy or just that no-ones interested ???
My thinking was that I find pclinuxos very handy for my media machine. But also, because of their great apt-get repository, I can try out new versions of packages very easily. Via synaptic and their very up-to-date repository.
I think it would be useful for visitors to see versions in apt-get repositories. What do you think ???
Do you have a way for pclinuxos to send you this info to you ?
regards Nitroushhh.
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