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1 • McDonald's in China (by KnightFire on 2004-07-26 05:47:56 GMT)
I was recently in southern China and can verify your claims that the washrooms were very clean and that the air-conditioning was excellent; no WiFi though. Unfortunately the Pizza Hut was being renovated, so I can't comment there.
2 • Linspire (by eedok at 2004-07-26 05:51:40 GMT)
http://images.linspire.com/RunLinspireSong/RunLinspire.swf
.....
someone in Linspire's marketing should be fired, or laid off, if you're feeling sudden earth movement, it's Morrison turning in his grave..
3 • Open Source (by Kary_j on 2004-07-26 09:54:16 GMT)
I gree to the case that malaysian government is establishing the IT infrastructure towards open source...the problem is that many people find out the truth about the open source benefits too late...we need here in malaysia more talks about the benefits of open source in the developing nations.
4 • Great idea, but you're quite right.... (by MstbZalle at 2004-07-26 11:47:49 GMT)
eedok wrote:
«someone in Linspire's marketing should be fired, or laid off, if you're feeling sudden earth movement, it's Morrison turning in his grave..»
Indeed. Though I have to admit that the idea behind the flash movie and song ain't too bad. Pity that it targets one specific (commercial) distribution rather than Linux in general.
Btw, I'll be installing Mandrakelinux 10.0 on my 2nd machine anytime soon in order to sell it. This machine will supposedly have its momentary W2k installation removed soon thereafter.
Greetings
5 • McDonald's in China (by KnightFire on 2004-07-26 05:47:56 GMT) (by Michael_Valentine on 2004-07-26 12:46:22 GMT)
I wish I could say the same about the McDonald toilets here in the USA. :)
6 • Food (by BeowulfSchaeffer at 2004-07-26 13:59:35 GMT)
I find it quite sad a website dedicated to an alternative OS is provide free advertising to that rainforest eating megacorp.
7 • Linux XP? (by CJ on 2004-07-26 14:31:33 GMT)
Why is Linux XP listed on this site when it doesn't even seem to exist?
8 • Vote with your feet or wallet (by Leo on 2004-07-26 15:47:20 GMT)
I totally agree with the tone of the "vote with your feet" editorial. I always ask for Linux support when I buy hardware, even if I know that they'll go "WTF?" in some cases.
I shopped for home broadband recently (in the US), and I got both DSL and Cable working on Linux only, no problems, no CD to insert. Very easy. And in all my phone calls to Customer Service and Sells I made it clear that I would use their service only if they gave me info so that I could use it from Linux.
We gotta vote with our wallet. Mac users do. :-)
In the end, software/hardware providers whould open up specs and protocols to allow interoperability. The more heteregenous the market looks to them, the more they it will make sense to them. If they get the (erroneous) feeling that everyone uses windows, they will keep "standarizing" on the "default standard", the evil empire ...
9 • Linspire Settlement (by Alex on 2004-07-26 18:59:59 GMT)
A lot more information and debate on this issue in the Linspire forums over here:
https://forum.linspire.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=254607&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1
10 • navyn os (by gary at 2004-07-26 21:01:42 GMT)
Navyn OS is an under-rated distro that is worthy of eveyone's notice. Based on Gentoo, a livecd that is HD installable..I found it fast and solid...better than some other well-known distro's...check it out.
11 • Mc* (by msu on 2004-07-26 21:12:11 GMT)
I wonder when we will have McLinux :-)
RunLinspire - funny, but they are killing Morrison`s song.
Greetings from Poland!
12 • No subject (by mrbass at 2004-07-26 21:14:54 GMT)
Navyn OS 2004.07
I love to download this and give it a whirl (and if I like it I'll definitely offer a mirror)...been trying all week to download it without success. On the homepage it has 3 mirrors listed....no go. Any secrets mirrors out there?
13 • Vote with our feet. (by Gavin Denby at 2004-07-26 21:18:58 GMT)
Definately vote with your feet. Our local version of Radio Shack, dunno what Europe has, sells Open source CD's, Mandrake CD's and has Tux logos on Linux Tested PC hardware .. The suport section has Linux drivers where they exist. Members of our Lug (www.wlug.org.nz) were invited to an in store expo (www.dsepowerhouse.co.nz) or (www.dse.co.nz) to demonstrate Open Source and Linux, CD's and Flyers paid for by the above company were provide free of charge .. Why ? Because we kept asking for Linux products, and spent our money when they supplied us with suitable hardware and even CD's Other sellers have since asked me to help them test their versions for Linux compatability and help them pre-install Linux on PC's s theye are being asked about Linux. They got the questions, and when they saw we would help, they asked us to do so.
ASK ASK and Ask again then go with those who will supply, once a pattern shows up, you'll be surprised how much the mood changes.
If the EU drive you offshore, Go .... Its there lose, but remember to say why on the web pages, so they know what it cost them, then wait for the invites to come back when they start to feel the pinch.
remember Money Talks --- Even if mine only knows how to say goodbye.
14 • Linux just like Apple (by Lanax on 2004-07-27 00:37:47 GMT)
I would love to see one of the Linux disros start to offer Linux the way Apple does. everything Linux, everything works out of the box..drivers and so on not just cheap hardware..the whole nine yards..it would be sweet!!! few stores and the avg joe need not to worry. just plug in the box.
15 • Linux XP (by T.Djokic at 2004-07-27 00:53:52 GMT)
"• Linux XP? (by CJ on 2004-07-26 14:31:33 GMT)
Why is Linux XP listed on this site when it doesn't even seem to exist?"
Watch this:
http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linuxxp
...and this:
http://www.linux-xp.ru/
"Linux XP is already a leading Linux distribution in Russia."
16 • Knoppix vs pclinux vs damn small (by distrowatch reader at 2004-07-27 05:24:01 GMT)
Why on earth do you present a revue done by someone who can't press the netcardconfig tag.
1 press the big k.
2 press the tag knoppix.
3 press the network tag.
4 select dhcp or enter your ip address. I won't even comment on the rest of the revue.
17 • Good issue (by Corey Quilliam at 2004-07-27 12:06:10 GMT)
This is by far the most interesting and most informative DWW that I have seen. I know some people may complain that the SCO, Linspire and other articles are getting away from the purpose of the site, but I like them and find them an interesting read. It seems that in the past year or so, linux news sites like linux today have had lower-quality stories, so it's good to see DWW coming through for us. Thanks.
18 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2004-07-27 16:01:12 GMT)
• Linux XP (by T.Djokic at 2004-07-27 00:53:52 GMT)
"• Linux XP? (by CJ on 2004-07-26 14:31:33 GMT)
Why is Linux XP listed on this site when it doesn't even seem to exist?"
Watch this:
http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=linuxxp
...and this:
http://www.linux-xp.ru/
"Linux XP is already a leading Linux distribution in Russia."
I have yet to find a download
19 • Re: Linux XP download (by Paul F. Pearson on 2004-07-27 17:02:30 GMT)
ftp://linux-xp.com/pub/linux-xp/
I found it in pro/1/iso/
There are also mirroring instructions at http://www.linux-xp.ru/mirroring.html although I haven't tried them.
I haven't used this distro at all - I just felt geeky and looked for it. I may try it, however. If it's intended to work like XP, my wife just might use it (I doubt it).
20 • RE:Linux just like Apple (by Josh on 2004-07-27 17:39:49 GMT)
Check out ION. http://elementcomputer.com/mambo/
21 • No subject (by CJ on 2004-07-27 17:44:17 GMT)
Check out Barnix if you're looking for an XP-like experience. It's still not fully functional yet, though. (at least it wasn't last time I tried it)
22 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2004-07-27 17:58:08 GMT)
• RE:Linux just like Apple (by Josh on 2004-07-27 17:39:49 GMT)
Check out ION. http://elementcomputer.com/mambo/
You can only get ION OS on thier prebuilt computers. They also have a liscenced version of Win 98SE installed to insure the Win4Lin will work.
23 • Navyn OS (by Oscar on 2004-07-27 23:48:42 GMT)
As NavynOS is a Gentoo derivative, I have no doubt it is a great distro. The only problem is that NavynOS is almost impossible to be downloaded. Weeks of attempt still no luck!
The recent NavynOS home page and the corresponding link http://navynos.linux.pl seems underconstruction, no download links are available.
If there are more mirrors available, its rating will certainly go up.
24 • But itś my Job...Gates in Malaysia (by Robert Hunter at 2004-07-28 03:16:01 GMT)
Gates seems to be deliberately ignoring the fact that the Open Source community take licencing and intellectual property very seriously -why else would we have the GPL? And as for the ¨threat´ that Open Source poses to the economy, that is simply a lie. The so-called DOT COM boom was driven largely by opportunites made possible by Open Source software. The economic crash that followed was more due to human greed. History has shown that Monopolies are very bad for business. Therefore, if we can stop businesses and governments from being duped by Microsoft, then strong economic growth and job prospects can be enjoyed by all. The main reason that open source companies have problems is due to Microsoft et al influencing governments to pass laws which make it harder for anybody, including Open Source, from competing in the market. Bill Gates...would you buy a used car from this man? And people trust his OS to look after their data?
25 • navynos (by gary at 2004-07-30 03:04:01 GMT)
For those of you wanting to d/l the iso, you can get it via anonymous ftp @ 66.190.74.57
5 users at a time, my ftp, so be nice or it's gone.
broadband only please, no dialup, ftp is subject to go without notice, so don't wait too long :)
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