| DistroWatch Weekly
|Linux Foundation Training
|Reader Comments • Jump to last comment
1 • Re: The "spare bedroom" distributions (by Lino on 2004-05-24 11:48:24 GMT) |
Well said, Ladislav! I don't have any comments to add to what you said, but I will go a little bit offtopic.
Some people are so used to commertial standrads that they judge software (or general things related to IT) only by market share or business model. To them I'd like to say: please notice that the broard Open Source Movement goes well beyond money-making business. Sure successful commersial distros and companies can strongly premote OSS but the spirit of the community remains to be voluntary, and brilliant individuals can accomplish somthing that even a mutil-billion dollar company could never do. This is something new and we are lucky to be in a heroic time.
Oh, good morning Ladislav and others. I hope this is still the first post when I click the submit button. We are in holiday today in Canada, and happy Victoia Day to all Canadians!
2 • Freesbie (by Marcel Gommans at 2004-05-24 11:54:23 GMT)
Good news from Freesbie. I mailed dave to ask him to include harddisk installation in 1.1. I love Freesbie, but couldn't get freebsd to work properly on my system (ancient installer).
3 • Site (by Marcel Gommans at 2004-05-24 11:57:04 GMT)
I just wanted to say I like what you did with the site. Small adjustments make a big difference!
4 • Two very different distros: Buffalo and Onebase (by FedupPenguin at 2004-05-24 12:16:44 GMT)
Buffalo: great praise. It might have some bugs, but:
Its developer never stops working.
He has no big money delusions, on the contrary I believe that he spends money out of his own pocket.
He has a great sense of humour and he is very nice: once I sent him an email complaing that downloading Buffalo was very slow and he offered to send me a CD, no costs for me: kudos!
Onebase: regardless of whether there is any need for such a distro, his developer:
Has delusions of grandeur and making a lot of money.
His behaviour is childish and arrogant: he doesn't reply to (reasonable) question he doesn't like and he doesn't accept any criticism, as clearly stated by himself at the forum.
He tries to be smart: his latest releases of Onebase and OnebaseGo are little different from the previous ones: especially the kernel is still an old one.
Good luck to him: fortunately there are 300 distros to choose from.
5 • Re: Freesbie (by Marcel Gommans) (by Sergio on 2004-05-24 13:17:19 GMT)
Great news indeed.
Eventually some of us who couldn't manage to install FreeBSD will be able to.
6 • FreeSBIE (by vic at 2004-05-24 14:23:17 GMT)
I'd really like a new FreeBSD live CD...the 1.0 release was rather buggy on my PC since I don't know anything about BSD, but I really want to test it....please!!
7 • FreeSBIE... (by SyntaxError at 2004-05-24 14:58:10 GMT)
Indeed, it's a nice BSD-based LiveCD. Ability to do a HD install without hosing the other OS would be a big plus. Looking forward to test it out.
8 • I need an usb based distro (by Flori at 2004-05-24 14:59:10 GMT)
I 'd really would like to know some of those Linux distros that can be installed on USB. I knew only Flonix , but I couldn't download anything from that site? Any other distro names?
9 • FreeSBIE (by msb at 2004-05-24 15:13:41 GMT)
The new FreeSBIE is an exciting announcement for those of us who are fans of the *BSDs. It's a very well-done live CD that I often take with me, even to work, and have found it to be just as useful as the Knoppix variants. I'm looking forward to the upcoming enhancements.
10 • zipslack (by sclebo05 at 2004-05-24 15:55:11 GMT)
Both zipslack and Puppy linux will do that. There a few out there.
11 • usb based distro (by BillH on 2004-05-24 15:59:09 GMT)
USB based? RUNT is designed for it.
12 • USB based distro (by Sergio on 2004-05-24 17:02:01 GMT)
I believe that Feather is another one.
13 • usb/bedroom (by Frank on 2004-05-24 17:29:03 GMT)
Damn Small can also be put on a USB memory stick.
They have a special USB boot image on the mirrors.
Re: "spare bedroom"
Oh please, the best things happening in Linux right now are being done by hackers. Look at what Knoppix has started!
14 • Spare Bedroom Distros (by dthacker at 2004-05-24 18:46:48 GMT)
I'm glad DistroWatch treats them as equals. I want to know about all of them. Keep up the good work.
15 • Re: "spare bedroom" distributions (by JimF43 at 2004-05-24 19:54:52 GMT)
I can only personally attest to the validity of Mepis, but, I see many of these Distros as a superior and less time/effort intensive way to set up a Debian Linux desktop. Worst case scenario is that one can maintain and update from the Debian repositories whether or not the author continues to maintain and support. To my mind, the bootable distros have done a great service in the promoting Linux as a viable alternative to M$.
16 • Re: The "Spare Bedroom" Distributions (by Oscar on 2004-05-24 20:11:15 GMT)
Excellent post, Ladislav :D ! You have my full support =)
17 • Thanks... (by Big Moron on 2004-05-24 20:26:22 GMT)
Thank you for listening... I am happy that my sugestion about the "top 5" was well taken in to consideration. There were many others expanding the idea and I bet that the "Quik Top 5" will be of great help to many... including me and the newbee...
I felt important when I saw the responce about my sugestion... neat! Lest see what else I can contribute with... small or big it dosen't mater as long as it helps...
18 • Back Bedroom distros, and such (by Ezra at 2004-05-24 20:43:17 GMT)
I read through the comments made last week and this week regarding the top 10 list and Desktop/LX. I have been coming back to Distrowatch for the last several years and have never looked at the top 10 list. I always figured it was simply a relisting of the top ten distros in the page hit ranking. If the top 10 list is different from the page hit ranking, then why? What is top 10 on a site dedicated to tracking page hit statistics if not a true account of the top ten page hit ranking distros?
I would suggest getting rid of the top 10 altogether. Your home page displays the top distros in page hit rank order already. If you want a to do a top 10 style list, implement what many have suggested and create top 5 lists in specific categories. For example, top 5 live cd distros, top 5 desktop distros, top 5 server distros, top 5 up-and-coming distros, etc. I think this idea would be more useful for newbies and quite interesting for all.
I am no html coder and cannot presently donate some time. I personally do not use the top 10 feature and could care less about top 10 lists. Top 5 category lists would be a nice luxury, but certainly not necessary. I do believe that top 10 or top 5 lists should be a reflection of page hit rank and nothing more, or else the lists mean nothing.
19 • Re: "Spare bedroom distros" (by mr_moose on 2004-05-24 21:32:05 GMT)
Heh - Got to stand up for Mepis here .... :-)
Sheesh - what a nerve that person has (the one going on about Mepis, PCLinuxOS being "spare bedroom" distros :-). They ask what distinguishes them from the big main distros. As a Mepis user, the distinction is very easy - "it works". An install so easy that a knuckle-dragger could use it, and the first distro to detect and successfully use my winmodem ( that includes Knoppix which unfortunately didn't). But I give kudos to both Knoppix and Mepis for *really* raising the bar on hardware detection - they leave the big distros waaay behind in that area.
Interesting that the person didn't mention Knoppix - is that a spare bedroom distro too (according to him)? Not in my view - I have a lot of respect for Knoppix and its creator, the ever-resourceful Klaus Knopper.
Anyway, enough from me .... :-)
20 • Discontinued distro Oeone (by Kanwar Plaha at 2004-05-24 23:19:28 GMT)
Its rather sad that this distribution is not available anymore. I had been using it on my redhat box for sometime and found it innovative. In fact, looking at the screenshots of Longhorn and Oeone ... you are bound to notice that this distribution was ahead of its time.
I wonder if anyone can request them to release the code to open source community and can thus be revived! I would hate to see it go under like this.
21 • Texstar (by Distrowatch reader at 2004-05-25 01:36:26 GMT)
I use Texstars mdk's.
They are better than Mandrakes.
They just work.
22 • Outright outrage (by William Roddy at 2004-05-25 03:02:45 GMT)
Dear fellow DistroWatch readers,
I have paid for Xandros, for Lycoris, for Red Hat, for SuSE, and for Mandrake, and I have done so with regularity over the past six years. I paid because, in some cases, it was the only way I could use the distributions. Linux is the only operating system I use, but I have not, until recently, been vocally in favor of any distribution, choosing rather to try the and see which one, in the current cycle of distributions, is best, overall, and best for me.
The disparagement by one reader of non-corporate Linux distributions show how far we have come: all the way to the boardroom door. And there are those -- most likely with personal agendas -- who would shoot their mouth off without knowing what they're talking about.
It would be unfair of me to consider PCLinuxOS at this time, because they have not yet released their entry into this cycle of distributions. But I feel I am quite qualified to speak of MEPIS, having inched along with them as they go from one release candidate to the next.
I now exclusively use -- and voluntarily pay for -- MEPIS, with the exception of one computer that I use to continue my hobby of exploring Linux distributions. The reason I use MEPIS is because it is, in every way, better than all of the other distributions that have been previously mentioned, and others, at this point in the evolution of Linux.
I am retired, have DSL, and I have plenty of time, and I spend much of that time "trying" each distribution as soon as it hits the pages of DistroWatch (I don't considered that I've fairly tried a distribution unless I have installed it on a hard drive and have used it). There are a number of exceptionally fine distributions in this cycle (for example, PLD Live CD), but none -- not Fedora, and definitely not Lycoris (Desktop/LX) or Xandros -- is better than MEPIS.
The only reasons I can think of that the author of the disparaging comments about MEPIS and PCLinuxOS might be strumming his air guitar to the present tune could only be: 1) he has a vested interest, or 2) he simply hasn't tried anything else.
I I will say this with certainty: if you are using Xandros or Lycoris, you are using distributions that are inferior to MEPIS. I want both Xandros and Lycoris to succeed. But they are both way behind the curve.
MEPIS might not stay King of the Hill forever, but right now, it is. And I get the deep sense from the community that has come to surround it, and from the communications I have with the MEPIS company, we can be expecting it to try to be there.
And just for the record, by DistroWatch's own counter, as of the past few months, MEPIS has EARNED its way into the Top Ten list.
23 • Re: Buffalo & Onebase (by Ariszlo at 2004-05-25 06:47:45 GMT)
Yes, Buffalo is really cool: it is Slackware with a 2.6.x kernel optimized for i686 or later.
With Onebase, I was much luckier than you. Whenever I ran into trouble with it, I received good advice from the forum members, including the developer. Well, there is one exception: GNOME 2.6 installed from Onebase binaries is really crap but since I am a KDE fan, I can do without it.
24 • no reason for amd64 livecds (by theo on 2004-05-26 22:46:46 GMT)
The point of a livecd is to have something you can plop into a random machine and boot; if you wanted something tailored to your machine you'd install it on the machine. AMD64 gives negligible performance benefits over ia32, and the reason Athlon64 has been successful is that it's a good 32-bit processor. So those who make livecds decide that a -1 to +2 percent performance difference isn't worth building extra isos that only a tiny fraction of users can use.
25 • The "spare bedroom" distributions (by Lord-Storm on 2004-05-26 23:46:47 GMT)
Well the organized commercial distros are nice but some are absolutely disapointing. Some back room distros work better than the commercial distros in some hardware configs. What about Morphix is that a commercial distro?? NO.. also its a fast way to get a good working system. Womp! also a targeted distro. MovX another one. All great back bedroom like you say but well worth the download. JAMD great distro... now called something else once they merged. JAMD 0.6 package management is better than Mandrakes.
SO DONT DISS THE DISTROS submit bug reports and look for where the distro is going to get an idea why you would like to support it.
26 • Re: no reason for amd64 livecds (by amd64fan on 2004-05-27 02:03:10 GMT)
Absolutely! That's what I thought too, but I still wanted to speak out and mention the idea. Obviously, mini liveCDs were created well after "normal' distros were around. I think this will be the same for 64-bit liveCDs as the industry slowly moves into the next generation. I can envisage myself going to my friends place, booting a liveCD instead of 64-bit Windows and saying "see, this is much better! Now let me install Linux for you :)"
27 • site changes (by anon on 2004-05-27 02:29:50 GMT)
The site changes look great, but a couple of things don't display correctly.
Try (on the front page) crarking Opera to 200% zoom (bad eyes), and
you will see the problems.
28 • RE: site changes (by ladislav at 2004-05-27 04:10:52 GMT)
29 • :) (by Harmless n00b on 2004-05-27 10:22:24 GMT)
No shooting n00bs, ok ? :)
Number of Comments: 29
Display mode: DWW Only • Comments Only • Both DWW and Comments
|• Issue 836 (2019-10-14): Archman 2019.09, Haiku improves ARM support, Project Trident shifting base OS, Unix turns 50|
|• Issue 835 (2019-10-07): Isotop, Mazon OS and, KduxOS, examples of using the find command, Mint's System Reports becomes proactive, Solus updates its desktops|
|• Issue 834 (2019-09-30): FreedomBox "Buster", CentOS gains a rolling release, Librem 5 phones shipping, Redcore updates its package manager|
|• Issue 833 (2019-09-23): Redcore Linux 1908, why Linux distros are free, Ubuntu making list of 32-bit software to keep, Richard M Stallman steps down from FSF leadership|
|• Issue 832 (2019-09-16): BlackWeb 1.2, checking for Wayland session and applications, Fedora to use nftables in firewalld, OpenBSD disables DoH in Firefox|
|• Issue 831 (2019-09-09): Adélie Linux 1.0 beta, using ffmpeg, awk and renice, Mint and elementary improvements, PureOS and Manjaro updates|
|• Issue 930 (2019-09-02): deepin 15.11, working with AppArmor profiles, elementary OS gets new greeter, exFAT support coming to Linux kernel|
|• Issue 829 (2019-08-26): EndeavourOS 2019.07.15, Drauger OS 7.4.1, finding the licenses of kernel modules, NetBSD gets Wayland application, GhostBSD changes base repo|
|• Issue 828 (2019-08-19): AcademiX 2.2, concerns with non-free firmware, UBports working on Unity8, Fedora unveils new EPEL channel, FreeBSD phasing out GCC|
|• Issue 827 (2019-08-12): Q4OS, finding files on the disk, Ubuntu works on ZFS, Haiku improves performance, OSDisc shutting down|
|• Issue 826 (2019-08-05): Quick looks at Resilient, PrimeOS, and BlueLight, flagship distros for desktops,Manjaro introduces new package manager|
|• Issue 825 (2019-07-29): Endless OS 3.6, UBports 16.04, gNewSense maintainer stepping down, Fedora developrs discuss optimizations, Project Trident launches stable branch|
|• Issue 824 (2019-07-22): Hexagon OS 1.0, Mageia publishes updated media, Fedora unveils Fedora CoreOS, managing disk usage with quotas|
|• Issue 823 (2019-07-15): Debian 10, finding 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system, Will Cooke discusses Ubuntu's desktop, IBM finalizes purchase of Red Hat|
|• Issue 822 (2019-07-08): Mageia 7, running development branches of distros, Mint team considers Snap, UBports to address Google account access|
|• Issue 821 (2019-07-01): OpenMandriva 4.0, Ubuntu's plan for 32-bit packages, Fedora Workstation improvements, DragonFly BSD's smaller kernel memory|
|• Issue 820 (2019-06-24): Clear Linux and Guix System 1.0.1, running Android applications using Anbox, Zorin partners with Star Labs, Red Hat explains networking bug, Ubuntu considers no longer updating 32-bit packages|
|• Issue 819 (2019-06-17): OS108 and Venom, renaming multiple files, checking live USB integrity, working with Fedora's Modularity, Ubuntu replacing Chromium package with snap|
|• Issue 818 (2019-06-10): openSUSE 15.1, improving boot times, FreeBSD's status report, DragonFly BSD reduces install media size|
|• Issue 817 (2019-06-03): Manjaro 18.0.4, Ubuntu Security Podcast, new Linux laptops from Dell and System76, Entroware Apollo|
|• Issue 816 (2019-05-27): Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.0, creating firewall rules, Antergos shuts down, Matthew Miller answers questions about Fedora|
|• Issue 815 (2019-05-20): Sabayon 19.03, Clear Linux's developer features, Red Hat explains MDS flaws, an overview of mobile distro options|
|• Issue 814 (2019-05-13): Fedora 30, distributions publish Firefox fixes, CentOS publishes roadmap to 8.0, Debian plans to use Wayland by default|
|• Issue 813 (2019-05-06): ROSA R11, MX seeks help with systemd-shim, FreeBSD tests unified package management, interview with Gael Duval|
|• Issue 812 (2019-04-29): Ubuntu MATE 19.04, setting up a SOCKS web proxy, Scientific Linux discontinued, Red Hat takes over Java LTS support|
|• Issue 811 (2019-04-22): Alpine 3.9.2, rsync examples, Ubuntu working on ZFS support, Debian elects new Project Leader, Obarun releases S6 tools|
|• Issue 810 (2019-04-15): SolydXK 201902, Bedrock Linux 0.7.2, Fedora phasing out Python 2, NetBSD gets virtual machine monitor|
|• Issue 809 (2019-04-08): PCLinuxOS 2019.02, installing Falkon and problems with portable packages, Mint offers daily build previews, Ubuntu speeds up Snap packages|
|• Issue 808 (2019-04-01): Solus 4.0, security benefits and drawbacks to using a live distro, Gentoo gets GNOME ports working without systemd, Redox OS update|
|• Issue 807 (2019-03-25): Pardus 17.5, finding out which user changed a file, new Budgie features, a tool for browsing FreeBSD's sysctl values|
|• Issue 806 (2019-03-18): Kubuntu vs KDE neon, Nitrux's znx, notes on Debian's election, SUSE becomes an independent entity|
|• Issue 805 (2019-03-11): EasyOS 1.0, managing background services, Devuan team debates machine ID file, Ubuntu Studio works to remain an Ubuntu Community Edition|
|• Issue 804 (2019-03-04): Condres OS 19.02, securely erasing hard drives, new UBports devices coming in 2019, Devuan to host first conference|
|• Issue 803 (2019-02-25): Septor 2019, preventing windows from stealing focus, NetBSD and Nitrux experiment with virtual machines, pfSense upgrading to FreeBSD 12 base|
|• Issue 802 (2019-02-18): Slontoo 18.07.1, NetBSD tests newer compiler, Fedora packaging Deepin desktop, changes in Ubuntu Studio|
|• Issue 801 (2019-02-11): Project Trident 18.12, the meaning of status symbols in top, FreeBSD Foundation lists ongoing projects, Plasma Mobile team answers questions|
|• Issue 800 (2019-02-04): FreeNAS 11.2, using Ubuntu Studio software as an add-on, Nitrux developing znx, matching operating systems to file systems|
|• Issue 799 (2019-01-28): KaOS 2018.12, Linux Basics For Hackers, Debian 10 enters freeze, Ubuntu publishes new version for IoT devices|
|• Issue 798 (2019-01-21): Sculpt OS 18.09, picking a location for swap space, Solus team plans ahead, Fedora trying to get a better user count|
|• Issue 797 (2019-01-14): Reborn OS 2018.11.28, TinyPaw-Linux 1.3, dealing with processes which make the desktop unresponsive, Debian testing Secure Boot support|
|• Issue 796 (2019-01-07): FreeBSD 12.0, Peppermint releases ISO update, picking the best distro of 2018, roundtable interview with Debian, Fedora and elementary developers|
|• Issue 795 (2018-12-24): Running a Pinebook, interview with Bedrock founder, Alpine being ported to RISC-V, Librem 5 dev-kits shipped|
|• Issue 794 (2018-12-17): Void 20181111, avoiding software bloat, improvements to HAMMER2, getting application overview in GNOME Shell|
|• Issue 793 (2018-12-10): openSUSE Tumbleweed, finding non-free packages, Debian migrates to usrmerge, Hyperbola gets FSF approval|
|• Issue 792 (2018-1203): GhostBSD 18.10, when to use swap space, DragonFly BSD's wireless support, Fedora planning to pause development schedule|
|• Issue 791 (2018-11-26): Haiku R1 Beta1, default passwords on live media, Slax and Kodachi update their media, dual booting DragonFly BSD on EFI|
|• Issue 790 (2018-11-19): NetBSD 8.0, Bash tips and short-cuts, Fedora's networking benchmarked with FreeBSD, Ubuntu 18.04 to get ten years of support|
|• Issue 789 (2018-11-12): Fedora 29 Workstation and Silverblue, Haiku recovering from server outage, Fedora turns 15, Debian publishes updated media|
|• Issue 788 (2018-11-05): Clu Linux Live 6.0, examining RAM consumpion, finding support for older CPUs, more Steam support for running Windows games on Linux, update from Solus team|
|• Issue 787 (2018-10-29): Lubuntu 18.10, limiting application access to specific users, Haiku hardware compatibility list, IBM purchasing Red Hat|
|• Issue 786 (2018-10-22): elementary OS 5.0, why init keeps running, DragonFly BSD enables virtual machine memory resizing, KDE neon plans to drop older base|
|• Issue 785 (2018-10-15): Reborn OS 2018.09, Nitrux 1.0.15, swapping hard drives between computers, feren OS tries KDE spin, power savings coming to Linux|
|• Issue 784 (2018-10-08): Hamara 2.1, improving manual pages, UBports gets VoIP app, Fedora testing power saving feature|
|• Full list of all issues|
Star Labs - Laptops built for Linux.
View our range including the Star Lite, Star LabTop and more. Available with a choice of Ubuntu, Linux Mint or Zorin OS pre-installed with many more distributions supported. Visit Star Labs for information, to buy and get support.
|Random Distribution |
Commodore OS Vision
Commodore OS Vision was a 64-bit Linux distribution, based on Linux Mint, created for Commodore enthusiasts purchasing Commodore USA hardware. These are essentially restore disks for pre-installed Commodore systems. Commodore OS Vision uses the classic GNOME 2 interface and features extensive Compiz/Emerald desktop effects. It includes dozens of games of all genres (FPS, Racing, Retro etc), the Firefox and Chromium web browsers, LibreOffice, Scribus, GIMP, Blender, OpenShot and Cinellera, advanced software development tools and languages, sound editing through Ardour and Audacity, and music composition programs such as the Linux MultiMedia Studio. It has a classic Commodore slant with a selection of applications reminiscent of their classic Amiga counterparts.