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1 • on different views over distributions (by Peter Damoc at 2004-03-15 13:30:09 GMT)
My oppinion is that hardware might make a difference. Maybe the distros react different to hardware. From my past experience I can say that Slackware 9.1 install on a old celeron box went smooth BUT when I tryed the thing on my new box everything went wrong. Maybe it was my emmbeded video addapter (nforce2 MB) maybe it was my brand new Logitech MX Duo or maybe it was my lack of experience but the two installs differed substantially.
2 • Joining an existing project (by Scott on 2004-03-15 13:53:21 GMT)
The open invitation from College Linux is truely what _many_ Linux distributions need. With that said ...
Onebase Linux has some really great, innovative ideas like
-> it's OLM (Onebase Linux Management) advanced multithreaded package manager. -> it's OnebaseGo LiveCD with incredible customization capabilities -> Support for both binary and source packages. -> Click-n-Pick gallery portal
This is the first free distro that I've had a strong feeling of supporting.
3 • Mandrake 10 (by Ronald L. Gibson at 2004-03-15 14:00:55 GMT)
Mandrake 10 will not boot up on my 200MHz machine with the Award v4.51PG BIOS. It boots up fine with my other machines. I have been able to boot up on previous versions of Mandrake, Red Hat, & Knoppix.
4 • mandrake (by maceto on 2004-03-15 14:04:23 GMT)
the reason MD fails on some and work on others are at least what I have found: the latest screen were one can change settings, buggy on 2 computers I have tested it on, what happens it hangs up if one does it "to fast" bouth running nvidia cards.
kernel 2.6 is making problems still on some hardware, the new intel 100 driver starts for me, but that`s it, it does not get assigned an ip, it sends recive packages etc, the old becker driver works fine. I can mention alot about this, but others are going to write here to
5 • Mandrakelinux 10.0: how can two persons' experiences differ so widely? (by brodders at 2004-03-15 14:22:09 GMT)
Easy - it's the hardware mix.
I've installed this on 3 boxes now:
1. Old HP Omin-series laptop - everything works.
2. Asus barebone system (512M ram, AMD 2400, integrated SiS everything - chipset, video, sound, LAN. Toshiba CDrom, + 2nd separate soundcard, Hitachi deskstar 120gig HD with 8M cache). Everything worked 1st time, could even select which sound card I wanted.
3. Asus nForce2 with integrated LAN & sound, GeForce FX5600, WD Caviar 80gig HD with 8M cache. LG 4120B CD-RW/DVD Combo, 512M ram. Will not boot. Can boot with CD2 and start CD1 installer. Install freezes at random points during system installs (tried several times) using both ext3 and RieserFS.
-but wait! This same box but using an old Maxtor 8gig drive from 1998 installs cleanly! It does not like _something_ about the WD (? the fast ATA, the chipset, the WD itself ?)
Conclusion: install sucess depends upon your hardware. Try to use the same hardware the distro was tested on....
This will always be a problem alas.
6 • Hardware is only one part (by Scott on 2004-03-15 14:46:12 GMT)
"Easy - it's the hardware mix."
Hardware is certainly one aspect of differing experiences, but what about the software bugs/glitches? How can this be explained?
Like Ladislav said ... "I made an effort to try and reproduce the bugs that Eugenia Loli-Queru reported in her review on OSNews, and some of them, like the Kontact bug or the BitTorrent GUI scrollbar problem, I could certainly confirm. But some others I could not."
That doesn't seem like hardware related, does it?
7 • Rubyx (by Penguin Domesticus on 2004-03-15 15:30:42 GMT)
Some questions for the Rubyx interview:
How does the source/package management work exactly? Are there some Rubyx binaries too or is it all about compilin from source? Is the Rubyx installaton equivalent of the Stage 1 style installation of Gentoo, i.e. everything must be compiled and configured manually? Is Rubyx targeted for experienced system admins only or does it aim to make things easy even for relatively unexperienced users?
8 • Mandrake 10 and 'testzilla' (by Troy Dawson at 2004-03-15 15:49:34 GMT)
Mandrake 10c (what I like to call it) is technically not their final release, it is a glorified release candidate, so I expected a few bugs. I found a few, but I also found a really nice release behind them. Are there a few software bugs. Yep. But I'd like anyone to name one Operating System release that didn't have them, linux, opensource or proprietary. But for me, there hasn't been one show stopper. I've installed it on 5 widely varying machines, and been able to experience all the various forms of emotion. My first install went absolutely perfect. My second hit the NVidia bug. Third, perfect, Fourth, network problem. Etc... (I plan on testing on more machines). But something I haven't seen mentioned is Mandrakes new 'testzilla'. This is different than 'bugzilla' because you run your machine through a set of steps, and if it works, that particular piece of hardware get's marked as working, if it didn't work, you can open a bugzilla bug, and they already have all your hardware info. Although this testzilla does have some flaws, I haven't seen any of the mainstream distro's doing this, and I do hope it catches on. (One of the flaws is the machine where the network card isn't able to be setup, I have no way of uploading the hardware info.) My overall opinion. Of the rpm based distro's, Mandrake 10 is going to be hard to beat. I don't really consider the communitry release a real release, but it already raises the bar for other distro's to try and reach.
9 • ML 10 Community: NOT a Release Candidate (by Leo on 2004-03-15 16:12:55 GMT)
Ok folks, lets call things by name. Mandrake Community is NOT a release candidate. It is what Mandrake 10.0 would have been if they didn't change the release cycle scheme ... but they _did_
Mandrake 10 is the first release in a "stable" branch that has been actually stabilized for a while in the Cooker tree (which was frozen for a while, and it had its own beta/RC cycle).
Oh, I am running it in 3 machines, and I had to revert two of them to kernel 2.4.* because of different kernel issues. It is true that 2.6 is more responsive. But is is not quite there yet. Other than that, it is running great, I am enjoying Kontact and what not. Very very nice, as usual.
Some bugs ? Yes, sure. I am reporting them in qa.mandrakesoft.com ...
10 • Rubyx (by Sceptic on 2004-03-15 16:47:56 GMT)
I've seen Rubyx advertise itself as a progressive and revolutionary distro but I've yet to figure out if this means anything for the ordinary end user. System developers may get excited over an installation script written in ruby language but for the end users this doesn't necessarily mean much. What are Rubyx's innovations from the end user's POV? Well, perhaps the forthcoming interview will bring some light on this issue.
11 • Rubyx v. Gentoo (by butters at 2004-03-15 18:49:56 GMT)
After reading the Rubyx manual, it seems to me that Rubyx is simply a Gentoo analogue. Whereas Gentoo uses Python for Portage, Rubyx uses Ruby. Both have revamped init scripts, both support flexible and distributed builds, fake builds, and support global and package configuration options (USE flags or Rubyx attributes). The main difference is that Gentoo has a massive headstart on Rubyx when it comes to its package collection, documentation, and user community. I think projects like Rubyx are great, but much of this is duplicating the work of Gentoo and other smaller source based distros, potentially fragmenting their respective communities. We will need to add the ebuild to rubyx converter to our growing list of package emulators.
On a seperate note, anyone check out SkyOS and its very impressive progress? Maybe its about time distrowatch starts promoting more revolutionary products instead of endless chains of Linux-based spinoffs. These projects need our support perhaps more than anyone in the Linux arena.
12 • Mandrakelinux 10.0 (by Rogelio at 2004-03-15 19:17:15 GMT)
What a disappointment Mandrakelinux 10.0 was. I mean how does a distribution have all the components to my computer work great in one version ( 9.2 ) and not in another. I installed 10 on my computor and it did not want to setup my modem ( not a winmodem ) or sound card ( c-media ). Even my mouse does not work correctly under this version. Don't get me wrong Mandrakelinux is not the only distribution that does this. My question is why or how does this happen?
13 • Distribution Differences (by Jay on 2004-03-15 19:29:34 GMT)
I have spent the last 18 months attempting just about every new version of every linux distro going. I have used the same box with exactly the same hardware every time. My results have been incredibly mixed. About 75% of all distros have failed to successfully install or work after installation on my box of old hardware. Mandrake 9.1 was one of the few that worked. One of these days I will have to publish a report of all my experiences.
Bottom line: It is DEFINITELY the hardware.
14 • Re: Rubyx v. Gentoo (by butlers) (by Sergio on 2004-03-15 20:40:19 GMT)
I agree with you about SkyOs, I am myself a beta tester. However wheter Distrowatch should start promoting non linux OSes is very questionable, IMHO. It has become very difficult to keep pace with all linux distros, let alone all operating systems out there. For this purpose there is already OSNews.
15 • Knoppix's Hardware Detection (by Scott on 2004-03-15 20:48:15 GMT)
I've heard Knoppix's hardware detection is one of the best. Has anyone had any problem's with Knoppix's hardware detection?
Also, if Knoppix can detect most hardware, why don't the other distro's do the same?
16 • RE: Knoppix's Hardware Detection (by hughesjr at 2004-03-15 21:28:47 GMT)
The hardware detection depends on several things ... including the Kernel version (which effects built-in modules). Major distrubutions (Fedora, Debian, Mandrake, SUSE, RedHat Enterprise, etc.) have a support time period and the Kernel and programs are normally frozen except for updates/bug fixes ... Even Distro's where that is not the case (Gentoo, Debian Sarge/Sid, etc.) have frozen install CDs.
Knoppix, however, issues a new bootable CD (with new items on it) 2-3 times per month (28 times in the last year). Every Upadate, they can detect more hardware and use newer kernels ... look at Gentoo, they are talking about changing the boot CD's 4 times a year and that is much more than most distros.
Knoppix can detect hardware better ... and that's my theory why.
17 • Mandrake 10 Community (by Vern at 2004-03-15 21:42:47 GMT)
Mandrake 10 was not as great experience for me as i expected. I had trouble configuring my modem connection(external modem) and K3b didn't recognise my burner whereas Fedora Core 1 did. My main distro is Libranet 2.8 and everything works out of the box including Nvidia drivers. Mandrake 10 was a bit of a let down for me but when all the bugs have been ironed out i will give it another try.
18 • RE: Knoppix's Hardware Detection (by evermuse on 2004-03-15 23:15:08 GMT)
Ive tried evey major disto outside of gentoo (I dont have the patentence) knoppix has the best hardware detection, hands down, no contest. the only times ive had issues where with brand new oddball hardware or very old, i really shouldn't bother anyhow hardware. the rest of the distro's really ought to get get hip on the hardware detection issue aside from slackware... it just wouldn't be the same
19 • Rubyx (by andrew at 2004-03-15 23:36:47 GMT)
I really like Rubyx, though the feeling does not appear to be mutual - it's been fighting me every step of the way ... at the moment I've got it installed, but still having trouble configuring XFree. Anyway, it does have some neat ideas. My favourite: no more runlevels! No more mazes of confusing links and scripts - just start/stop/restart a service, that's it. Also it breaks with traditional structure, placing all files related to a package in its own directory, somewhat like Gobo Linux. So for example xfree lives in its own directory, /pkg/xfree86.1/, and it's configuration file will be in /pkg/xfree86.1/etc/xfree/XF86Config (from memory). If I should install a new version of xfree, it will become /pkg/xfree86.2/ ... and so on.
It is true this distro is similar in idea and execution to Gentoo, but it makes Gentoo look positively bloated in comparison. Now, if only I could get it to work :)
20 • Mandrake 10 Community (by Gordon Pearce at 2004-03-16 00:06:53 GMT)
Just loaded Mandrake 10 on a Toshiba Satellite 2410 P4M Laptop. All went fine except my Belkin 802.11b WiFi card, it worked at install time but failed after the first boot even though all settings look OK. It works if I drop to a shell after boot and “dhclient eth0”. Anyway I’ll poke around /etc and see if I can fix it when I get some spare time.
I have swapped distros on this machine from Mepis. I would say that Mandrake feels a bit more sluggish than Mepis, even with the 2.6 kernel. But the desktop theme and menus are a lot slicker in Mandrake. Also, Mepis auto detected everything including installing Nvidia drivers, where as Mandrake, I had to manually install a few things.
I think I’ll stick with Mandrake for a while and see how things go. Can’t wait for Mepis to get the 2.6 kernel though (I know you can install it from apt but it breaks a few things).
21 • Re: how can two persons' experiences differ so widely? (by bxb32001 at 2004-03-16 02:17:58 GMT)
And the answer is... testing. Yep TESTING. This is one aspect of Linux use that is just killing it. What frequently happens is that the users are frequently it's testers. Now, when it's free, it's easy to overlook but when you're selling it it's a different ballgame.
Even those that don't buy it can find it very frustrating since they spend time downloading it and trying to make it work. It's even more so to those who expend time and money.
Now it's in Linux's roots to be community supported but for it to evolve successfully as a commercial desktop OS (even as a server), Distro companies should have a dedicated team of testers and not be afraid to delay their release to meet quality requirements. MS is doing this with Longhorn, Fedora with Fedora Core 2, Debian with any release.
Otherwise, some distros will just never come out of their shells.
22 • Mandrake 10.0 (by Gary at 2004-03-16 03:39:42 GMT)
I've been using Mandrake 10.0 now for almost a week and I say it rocks! The new kernel is faster, thus making the overall responsiveness quicker than prior releases. I haven't experienced any of the problems I see other's posting, so it makes me wonder what's up with that....I've enjoyed this release so much, it is now the only OS on my main box! Now if I could only get Synce-Kde to work........
23 • re: Rubyx (by Dave T at 2004-03-16 04:00:17 GMT)
I was just wondering if Andrew Walrond had any plans to split his source base up into smaller packages, say 50 megs a piece (approx) so as to make it easier for dialup users to participate in the developement of his distribution cheers Dave.
24 • Testzilla and hardware probing (by Andy on 2004-03-16 05:55:28 GMT)
Mandrake's "Testzilla" sounds like a very useful package to help with hardware compatibility. One thing I'd **love** to see is a small stand-alone "hardware-probing" utility. This would use the same h/w detection code as the full distro. You could d/l it, and if it detects all your hardware, you'd feel much more confident to grab that distro, knowing that the chances of it working were high. Knoppix would seem to be an obvious distro to base such a utility on. So - any keen coders out there who'd be able to put Knoppix's h/w detection code into a standalone utility? ( That'd make it mega-easy to pop into any other distro, too). Any takers ....? :-)
25 • re : Testzilla and hardware probing (by Benoît Audouard on 2004-03-16 10:19:01 GMT)
Great idea Andy, I would love to have it on Mandrake Move10, save the configuration to a file that I can upload later (just in case the internet access does not work and for archive sake), with all tests I could achieve, on any pc I encounter ;-)
26 • Mandrake 10 & LG cd-rom drives (by Ariszlo at 2004-03-16 10:23:43 GMT)
Is Mandrake 10 safe for LG cd-rom drives?
27 • DLIP based Slackware (by Benjamin Vander Jagt at 2004-03-16 15:41:10 GMT)
I'd be interested in working with someone on making a Linux distribution, but out of the 300 distributions, I'd say about 280 of them only exist by way of deviations from the standard. SuSE 9.0 is remarkably standards compliant, and pretty much nothing beats Slackware for being traditional.
I might want to make a DLIP-based flavor of Slackware, though. That would interest me. By this, it would be Slackware that could be installed in whole or in part, but an extra package would be DLIP. (Alright, to be honest, I've been lacking for developers to work on this extraordinary project, so the idea would pretty much require me to find time to program.) I'm not all that interested in working on yet another distribution whose claim to fame is being *different*.
Regarding Mandrake, I saw the same thing happen with Fedora. Some people had a very good time, and others had an extraordinarily bad time. It depends on the user. Fedora was fine until you tried to mess with it. I tried to install the nVidia driver, and it complained that the kernel was unable to load ELF binaries. My jaw dropped. I tried to change the screen savers, and xscreensaver broke irreversibly. I tried to upgrade Mozilla from 1.4 to 1.6, and half of my menus disappeared. I couldn't even install some simple wireless drivers.
Mandrake 9.2 has been horrid in the past. I tried to do very very basic things, only to find out that Mandrake's insides look like a Picasso. I downloaded Mandrake 10.0, and I got ready to burn it to CD, but then I read the reviews and decided not to even try it. I'm usually the type who will try loads and loads of distributions, but I've gotten tired of messing with Mandrunk. I've seen several distributions that are much easier to install, more stable, and much easier to navigate, and I wonder what it is that keeps Mandark at the top of the HPD list. Everyone I ask who has not tried Linux says, "I'm gonna try Mandrake, because they say that's the most Windows-like." (I'll hafta say not, but even so, is Windows-like something to strive for?) I think that a lot of Mandrake's fame comes from non-Linux users curious and dying to cut their teeth. (I should probably go back and look for the distribution HPD nationality information and see if Mandrake has a disproportionate number of USA visitors. We here are, after all, very lazy when it comes to trying software, and we're way behind the times when it comes to Linux.)
28 • the only MADK 10 alert i've seen (by squid at 2004-03-16 22:19:21 GMT)
the only meggage I've seen after insert of first boot CD in the drive was "SYSTEM HALTED". Every other distro including previous releases of MDK works fine. ...and I hoped to install it instead of FC 1 :-(((
29 • MDK 10 (by warpengi at 2004-03-17 05:31:07 GMT)
I agree with others that hardware is a major factor in successful install. There is often no support for the very latest hardware and onboard chips for sound and LAN can be a problem.
One other factor is familiarity with the distribution. I had some problems with MDK 10 but none of them were "show stoppers" because after running Mandrake for almost 4 yrs. I can find a way to fix most things without a lot of thought.
It would be interesting to know what distribution is the daily use distro for each reviewer. I know, every distro should work regardless of the users experience but that is not reality. The longer you work with one distro the better it will work for you. When I install other distro's to see what they look like I don't really give them much of a chance. One little spin around the block and then I leave.
I love MDK 10.0. It is fast, stable, easy to use and a nice improvement over 9.2. It was the 1st distro that I could use the upgrade option instead of doing a complete reinstall.
30 • what i would like to see (by Ophidian on 2004-03-17 05:44:08 GMT)
i would like to see a distro come out that uses ldap through and through. something where setting up the ldap tree is as easy as it is setting up an nds tree on a novell server. have all samba/nfs/similar settings incorporated into the tree. i would say something like this would probably have a good level of small to medium sized business adoption.
31 • RE: the only MADK 10 alert i've seen (by Jerry at 2004-03-17 15:52:05 GMT)
..."the only meggage I've seen after insert of first boot CD in the drive was "SYSTEM HALTED"."...
Have you tried booting from cd 2? There's an alternate boot image there and you can just switch CD's. I've been using Mandrake 10 for a couple weeks. As with most .0 versions, it has its problems but for me they've been small and, in all but one case, related to the 2.6.3 kernel itself and not specifically to Mandrake. I usually skip the full number releases and start with the .1 and upgrade to the .2 when they come out but I wanted to give the new kernel a whirl and see how it works as a default kernel. I'd compiled it myself on 9.2 but I'm not the best at compiling kernels it seems. Right now the only problem I have with it is 3D accel with an ati vid card but that's kinda to be expected. I had to fight with it on other distros to get it to work too.
32 • mdk 10 experiences (by Wiley at 2004-03-17 17:47:57 GMT)
My experience suggests that its mainly hardware that produces the variety of user experiences. I've installed mdk on a few different laptops, IBM desktops and an IBM server. The IBM equipment seems to be the most compatible, they gave no problems at all. The Toshiba laptops gave the most severe problems. Also in my experience its better not to configure the hardware during the installation. Also where posible avoid features such as 3d acceleration and APCI which in the ealy days were bad for my laptop.
33 • Mandrake (by ajc on 2004-03-17 20:46:36 GMT)
I have had good results with Mandrake 10 on a Dell Inspiron 5100. Mdk 9.2 was the only distro to properly set up the LAN card, video drivers and several other items that laptops are nasty for. Mdk 10 even got the ACPI extensions better (still some experimentation to be done). I am just waiting to upgrade my main 9.1 dekstop to 10.
Yes, it has some bugs but I look forward to the Official release to give to friends. Mdk has always rode the fine line between new features and stability issues. I have occasionally cursed them, but mostly I am very thankful for a distro that combines 4 VERY important things:
1. Is fully supported even for the free edition (and yes, I am a mandrakeclub member). This is vital for new users who are still figuring out Linux. Few are going to shell out Red-Hat Enterprise prices for something that only sits silent on the second partition 80% of the time.
2. Is newbie friendly. Except for the occasional bug, mdk has always been known as the leading desktop distro. Beyond this, URPI was functional way before anyone got around to applying apt to rpm (correct me if I am wrong).
3. Is a full un-adulterated GNU/Linux power user's distro. Yes, many prefer Deb, Slak, or Gentoo (I use Deb on small servers where it's small size and stability is awesome and datedness don't matter). BUT I don't want to have to spend extra time getting my desktop working when I can be learning more about what I can do with it - this is the difference between a race car driver and a race car mechanic. It is good to have knowledge of both, but don't condemn the priorities of others!
4. Mandrakesoft releases all their own material under the GPL. I have respect for SUSE (they put lots back into the community) but the non-GPL material makes me very nervous. Remember Libre is the glue that holds it all together...
...ajc
34 • correction (by ajc on 2004-03-17 20:49:16 GMT)
I just noticed that I should have said URPMI not URPI...
oops
35 • RE: Correction (by jlowell at 2004-03-17 21:59:52 GMT)
Hello ajc,
You know, your correction spurs a thought I've had concerning making comments here at Distrowatch for some time: Editing might be a useful feature for the site to employ, although I'm not entirely sure what that would entail for Ladislav Bodnar. Either that or a forum, which might be more than Ladislav is prepared to undertake in any event. As hamfisted as I've gotten over time, God knows, an editing tool would be an act of mercy at this point.
jlowell
36 • DLIP based Slackware (by jlowell at 2004-03-17 22:18:22 GMT)
Hi Benjamin,
So you're looking for something more completely unique into which to put some of your time? A couple of thoughts. Why not take a look at Crux, which was built from the ground up and which is similar to Slack in that its package build system does not entail dependency checking and which has held to a very uncluttered modus operandi. Either that or the new Rubyx, which, because of the language involved, is also rather unique. With respect to Rubyx, Ladislav Bodnar plans to publish an interview with Rubyx's author with next week's Weekly. You might find that interview helpful.
jlowell
37 • An easy recipe to produce a minimalistic but complete live CD based on Feather (by Juan T. on 2004-03-19 15:02:31 GMT)
I wanted a very minimalistic live meta-distro with full features for the desktop user, in a 8 cm disk, but including the last version of Open Office.
Usually you find in that size distros with 'only desktop' with few features or just console-mode applications.
My approach to overcome this has been to use as a base Feather 0.3.7 which is Knoppix based; with only 75 Mb has all the X applications you need (xface, several editors, ABS spreadsheet, filemanagers -Emelfm, Mc-, XCD roast, XMMS, Dillo browser) and, for developement gcc, perl.
The beggining of the process was to burn a bootable CD from the Feather iso image (about 75 Mb), but maintaining the CD 'open'. To this layer, in another burning session I have added the folder of Open Office install files downloaded from the Open Office home page (it is about 70 Mb), and to complete the mini -8 cm- CD I have added about 50 Mb more of tutorials I had.
It gives as a result a bootable 'Feather live linux CD' with all its functionallity. If I need some extra information, I can consult my included tutorials, using for this the Dillo browser or Mc that come with Feather. If I need to edit a more complex file or to produce a pdf, then I install into the ramdisk the Open Office -it takes about 2 minutes in a Athlon 2600 with 512 Mb of ram-, produce the document, and save it to the hd or to a floppy, (mounting first the discs with its mount.app). Since the full installation of Open Office needs 220 Mb, it fits in the remaining ram memory of the modern computers.
Presently I am writting this text using the CD produced that way, I have contacted internet with its Dillo browser, (running first its Network card configuration tool). When I have finished my session, everyting will be out without caring if I made something wrong with any file; and when I restart my computer, or any other computer anywhere, I may start again cleanly from my 8 cm disk with the desktop and applications of my preference.
I thing that thinks like this are real advantages of linux from other OS, that we have to support.
*JT.
38 • mandrake10 (by ehab at 2004-03-19 23:20:41 GMT)
easy ,fantastic,distro need to studdy more about every thing inside it
39 • Mandrake 10 2.6Kernel (by Clifford Fell at 2004-06-28 09:31:59 GMT)
Great! exept for the sound. It worked just fine the only problem was that xmms would freeze everytime i tried to use it. I believe that it has to do with the 2.6 kernel not working well with my hardware, i dont' really know. I'm still pretty new.
40 • destruction (by josh at 2004-08-06 19:25:40 GMT)
I feel that similar distrobutions should be merged (development teams) and linux standardiszed. then development would be quicker and linux would be better. I also feel more choise is required during the install process to allow the os to be flexable and not just install a 'one size fits all' style install. If this was done then linux would take over it supports almost every platform! as i write this im on a mac running gentoo thats proof in it's self.
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• Issue 1117 (2025-04-14): Shebang 25.0, EndeavourOS 2025.03.19, running applications from other distros on the desktop, Debian gets APT upgrade, Mint introduces OEM options for LMDE, postmarketOS packages GNOME 48 and COSMIC, Redox testing USB support |
• Issue 1116 (2025-04-07): The Sense HAT, Android and mobile operating systems, FreeBSD improves on laptops, openSUSE publishes many new updates, Fedora appoints new Project Leader, UBports testing VoLTE |
• Issue 1115 (2025-03-31): GrapheneOS 2025, the rise of portable package formats, MidnightBSD and openSUSE experiment with new package management features, Plank dock reborn, key infrastructure projects lose funding, postmarketOS to focus on reliability |
• Issue 1114 (2025-03-24): Bazzite 41, checking which processes are writing to disk, Rocky unveils new Hardened branch, GNOME 48 released, generating images for the Raspberry Pi |
• Issue 1113 (2025-03-17): MocaccinoOS 1.8.1, how to contribute to open source, Murena extends on-line installer, Garuda tests COSMIC edition, Ubuntu to replace coreutils with Rust alternatives, Chimera Linux drops RISC-V builds |
• Issue 1112 (2025-03-10): Solus 4.7, distros which work with Secure Boot, UBports publishes bug fix, postmarketOS considers a new name, Debian running on Android |
• Issue 1111 (2025-03-03): Orbitiny 0.01, the effect of Ubuntu Core Desktop, Gentoo offers disk images, elementary OS invites feature ideas, FreeBSD starts PinePhone Pro port, Mint warns of upcoming Firefox issue |
• Issue 1110 (2025-02-24): iodeOS 6.0, learning to program, Arch retiring old repositories, openSUSE makes progress on reproducible builds, Fedora is getting more serious about open hardware, Tails changes its install instructions to offer better privacy, Murena's de-Googled tablet goes on sale |
• Issue 1109 (2025-02-17): Rhino Linux 2025.1, MX Linux 23.5 with Xfce 4.20, replacing X.Org tools with Wayland tools, GhostBSD moving its base to FreeBSD -RELEASE, Redox stabilizes its ABI, UBports testing 24.04, Asahi changing its leadership, OBS in dispute with Fedora |
• Issue 1108 (2025-02-10): Serpent OS 0.24.6, Aurora, sharing swap between distros, Peppermint tries Void base, GTK removinglegacy technologies, Red Hat plans more AI tools for Fedora, TrueNAS merges its editions |
• Issue 1107 (2025-02-03): siduction 2024.1.0, timing tasks, Lomiri ported to postmarketOS, Alpine joins Open Collective, a new desktop for Linux called Orbitiny |
• Issue 1106 (2025-01-27): Adelie Linux 1.0 Beta 6, Pop!_OS 24.04 Alpha 5, detecting whether a process is inside a virtual machine, drawing graphics to NetBSD terminal, Nix ported to FreeBSD, GhostBSD hosting desktop conference |
• Issue 1105 (2025-01-20): CentOS 10 Stream, old Flatpak bundles in software centres, Haiku ports Iceweasel, Oracle shows off debugging tools, rsync vulnerability patched |
• Issue 1104 (2025-01-13): DAT Linux 2.0, Silly things to do with a minimal computer, Budgie prepares Wayland only releases, SteamOS coming to third-party devices, Murena upgrades its base |
• Issue 1103 (2025-01-06): elementary OS 8.0, filtering ads with Pi-hole, Debian testing its installer, Pop!_OS faces delays, Ubuntu Studio upgrades not working, Absolute discontinued |
• Issue 1102 (2024-12-23): Best distros of 2024, changing a process name, Fedora to expand Btrfs support and releases Asahi Remix 41, openSUSE patches out security sandbox and donations from Bottles while ending support for Leap 15.5 |
• Issue 1101 (2024-12-16): GhostBSD 24.10.1, sending attachments from the command line, openSUSE shows off GPU assignment tool, UBports publishes security update, Murena launches its first tablet, Xfce 4.20 released |
• Issue 1100 (2024-12-09): Oreon 9.3, differences in speed, IPFire's new appliance, Fedora Asahi Remix gets new video drivers, openSUSE Leap Micro updated, Redox OS running Redox OS |
• Issue 1099 (2024-12-02): AnduinOS 1.0.1, measuring RAM usage, SUSE continues rebranding efforts, UBports prepares for next major version, Murena offering non-NFC phone |
• Issue 1098 (2024-11-25): Linux Lite 7.2, backing up specific folders, Murena and Fairphone partner in fair trade deal, Arch installer gets new text interface, Ubuntu security tool patched |
• Issue 1097 (2024-11-18): Chimera Linux vs Chimera OS, choosing between AlmaLinux and Debian, Fedora elevates KDE spin to an edition, Fedora previews new installer, KDE testing its own distro, Qubes-style isolation coming to FreeBSD |
• Issue 1096 (2024-11-11): Bazzite 40, Playtron OS Alpha 1, Tucana Linux 3.1, detecting Screen sessions, Redox imports COSMIC software centre, FreeBSD booting on the PinePhone Pro, LXQt supports Wayland window managers |
• Issue 1095 (2024-11-04): Fedora 41 Kinoite, transferring applications between computers, openSUSE Tumbleweed receives multiple upgrades, Ubuntu testing compiler optimizations, Mint partners with Framework |
• Issue 1094 (2024-10-28): DebLight OS 1, backing up crontab, AlmaLinux introduces Litten branch, openSUSE unveils refreshed look, Ubuntu turns 20 |
• Issue 1093 (2024-10-21): Kubuntu 24.10, atomic vs immutable distributions, Debian upgrading Perl packages, UBports adding VoLTE support, Android to gain native GNU/Linux application support |
• Issue 1092 (2024-10-14): FunOS 24.04.1, a home directory inside a file, work starts of openSUSE Leap 16.0, improvements in Haiku, KDE neon upgrades its base |
• Issue 1091 (2024-10-07): Redox OS 0.9.0, Unified package management vs universal package formats, Redox begins RISC-V port, Mint polishes interface, Qubes certifies new laptop |
• Issue 1090 (2024-09-30): Rhino Linux 2024.2, commercial distros with alternative desktops, Valve seeks to improve Wayland performance, HardenedBSD parterns with Protectli, Tails merges with Tor Project, Quantum Leap partners with the FreeBSD Foundation |
• Issue 1089 (2024-09-23): Expirion 6.0, openKylin 2.0, managing configuration files, the future of Linux development, fixing bugs in Haiku, Slackware packages dracut |
• Issue 1088 (2024-09-16): PorteuX 1.6, migrating from Windows 10 to which Linux distro, making NetBSD immutable, AlmaLinux offers hardware certification, Mint updates old APT tools |
• Issue 1087 (2024-09-09): COSMIC desktop, running cron jobs at variable times, UBports highlights new apps, HardenedBSD offers work around for FreeBSD change, Debian considers how to cull old packages, systemd ported to musl |
• Issue 1086 (2024-09-02): Vanilla OS 2, command line tips for simple tasks, FreeBSD receives investment from STF, openSUSE Tumbleweed update can break network connections, Debian refreshes media |
• Issue 1085 (2024-08-26): Nobara 40, OpenMandriva 24.07 "ROME", distros which include source code, FreeBSD publishes quarterly report, Microsoft updates breaks Linux in dual-boot environments |
• Issue 1084 (2024-08-19): Liya 2.0, dual boot with encryption, Haiku introduces performance improvements, Gentoo dropping IA-64, Redcore merges major upgrade |
• Issue 1083 (2024-08-12): TrueNAS 24.04.2 "SCALE", Linux distros for smartphones, Redox OS introduces web server, PipeWire exposes battery drain on Linux, Canonical updates kernel version policy |
• Issue 1082 (2024-08-05): Linux Mint 22, taking snapshots of UFS on FreeBSD, openSUSE updates Tumbleweed and Aeon, Debian creates Tiny QA Tasks, Manjaro testing immutable images |
• Issue 1081 (2024-07-29): SysLinuxOS 12.4, OpenBSD gain hardware acceleration, Slackware changes kernel naming, Mint publishes upgrade instructions |
• Issue 1080 (2024-07-22): Running GNU/Linux on Android with Andronix, protecting network services, Solus dropping AppArmor and Snap, openSUSE Aeon Desktop gaining full disk encryption, SUSE asks openSUSE to change its branding |
• Issue 1079 (2024-07-15): Ubuntu Core 24, hiding files on Linux, Fedora dropping X11 packages on Workstation, Red Hat phasing out GRUB, new OpenSSH vulnerability, FreeBSD speeds up release cycle, UBports testing new first-run wizard |
• Issue 1078 (2024-07-08): Changing init software, server machines running desktop environments, OpenSSH vulnerability patched, Peppermint launches new edition, HardenedBSD updates ports |
• Issue 1077 (2024-07-01): The Unity and Lomiri interfaces, different distros for different tasks, Ubuntu plans to run Wayland on NVIDIA cards, openSUSE updates Leap Micro, Debian releases refreshed media, UBports gaining contact synchronisation, FreeDOS celebrates its 30th anniversary |
• Issue 1076 (2024-06-24): openSUSE 15.6, what makes Linux unique, SUSE Liberty Linux to support CentOS Linux 7, SLE receives 19 years of support, openSUSE testing Leap Micro edition |
• Issue 1075 (2024-06-17): Redox OS, X11 and Wayland on the BSDs, AlmaLinux releases Pi build, Canonical announces RISC-V laptop with Ubuntu, key changes in systemd |
• Issue 1074 (2024-06-10): Endless OS 6.0.0, distros with init diversity, Mint to filter unverified Flatpaks, Debian adds systemd-boot options, Redox adopts COSMIC desktop, OpenSSH gains new security features |
• Issue 1073 (2024-06-03): LXQt 2.0.0, an overview of Linux desktop environments, Canonical partners with Milk-V, openSUSE introduces new features in Aeon Desktop, Fedora mirrors see rise in traffic, Wayland adds OpenBSD support |
• Issue 1072 (2024-05-27): Manjaro 24.0, comparing init software, OpenBSD ports Plasma 6, Arch community debates mirror requirements, ThinOS to upgrade its FreeBSD core |
• Issue 1071 (2024-05-20): Archcraft 2024.04.06, common command line mistakes, ReactOS imports WINE improvements, Haiku makes adjusting themes easier, NetBSD takes a stand against code generated by chatbots |
• Issue 1070 (2024-05-13): Damn Small Linux 2024, hiding kernel messages during boot, Red Hat offers AI edition, new web browser for UBports, Fedora Asahi Remix 40 released, Qubes extends support for version 4.1 |
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