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1 • New 2.6 distributions (by David` at 2004-02-09 14:56:24 GMT)
Thanks, Ladislav for a great resource for the community.
BTW doesn't Buffalo linux 1.1.2 qualify for the 2.6 list?
It has an option for including the 2.6 kernel at install
time. Slackware based (wish it was Debian Sid, no
offense Patrick) perhaps one day slapt-get or swaret
will catch-up with Debian)
2 • Distro with linux-2.6.x (by Grzegorz Dąbrowski at 2004-02-09 15:02:40 GMT)
Pingwinek GNU/Linux 1.0rc0 has 2.6.0-test9 kernel.
3 • Onebase supports linux kernel 2.6.x (by all4one at 2004-02-09 15:09:53 GMT)
I am surprised Onebase was not mentioned in the above list as it supports this kernel version from over a month ago.
However its OL-apps gallery is on hiatus for a few days in order to get its much expected OLM version 2.1 to release to compete against all major distributions :-)
olm -s linux-2.6
4 • bug or ban (by Nameless Foo at 2004-02-09 15:09:56 GMT)
Is my IP number banned or is DistroWatch buggy: no matter what distribution I want to read about, I can only get the home page.
5 • No subject (by craftyc on 2004-02-09 15:29:52 GMT)
Ladislav, you have written that Gentoo does have kernel 2.6, but it is listed as "unstable and not default". In fact Gentoo has no default kernel since it is up to the user to choose which kernel s/he wants to use. It is also available in the stable branch.
6 • Knoppix 3.4 Preview (by Anonymous on 2004-02-09 15:54:35 GMT)
There is a "Knoppix 3.4" with optional Kernel 2.6 (reduces boot time to desktop by 10 sec compared to Kernel 2.4 here) attached to the current issue of German "c't" computer magazine. See http://www.knoppix.net for Torrent etc. if you want to download it. Final Knoppix 3.4 is to be expected around CeBIT.
7 • New 2.6 distributions (by Carl Powers at 2004-02-09 20:52:56 GMT)
Lunar Linux offers two different versions of the 2.6 kernel ( 2.6.2-mm1 and 2.6.3-rc1) as linux-beta-mm and linux-beta respectively. The default stable kernel is currently at 2.4.24.
8 • small typo (by anon on 2004-02-09 22:06:50 GMT)
Distrowatch takes us into the future with the release of:
"Knoppix 3.3-2204-02-09." I hope they will have 3.4 out before then. :)
9 • RE: bug or ban (by ladislav at 2004-02-10 00:18:26 GMT)
Nobody is banned from DistroWatch. Can you give me some more details about the problem? Are you using a mirror or the main site? Which browser? The only redirection I have in effect is if you come from one of the web sites that explicitly asks users to "vote" for their favourite distro on DistroWatch. Those clicks get redirected to the main page.
10 • can't find Apache2 on apache website (by detailguy on 2004-02-10 01:30:32 GMT)
Odd reasoning about Gentoo and Apache. I quote your response:
"For some strange reason, Apache2 is not listed in Gentoo's online package database."
There is no apache2 listed on apache website. Go look for yourself:
http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi
Gentoo's online package database correctly lists apache versions, with the 2.0 series being the latest.
There isn't a mysql4 listed on Gentoo's online package database yet DistroWatch correctly lists Gentoo supplying v4 of mysql.
11 • Mandows: Name Has GOT To Go (by JGabriel on 2004-02-10 01:31:22 GMT)
They really have to change the name of the Mandows distribution. It's typographical similiarity to the name "Manilow" is bound to recall traumatically disturbing memories to anyone who listened to the radio in the 70's and early 80's.
12 • can't find Apache2 on apache website (by ladislav at 2004-02-10 03:02:40 GMT)
Are you trying to make me look stupid, or what? It wasn't me who brought up "Apache2", it was a reader who complained that it is missing from the table.
OK, great! Apache version 2.x is now listed on Gentoo's online packages database (I belive it wasn't there until very recently). But we still have a problem, because it's still missing from the plain text list of Gentoo packages (go look for yourself): http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/gentoo_pkglist_X86.txt
It still appears to me that the problem is somewhere on the Gentoo side. Please write to Gentoo before you complain here.
13 • No subject (by detailguy on 2004-02-10 03:28:24 GMT)
First I love your website. Not trying to make you look stupid just pointing out a flaw in the logic.
Second it is time for me to find the responsible person at Gentoo to fix the out of date package list. I searched the package list you posted and couldn't find the latest apache in the list even though a v2 apache is installed by default now on Gentoo.
Oddly the logically interpretation of "dyn" in http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/gentoo_pkglist_X86.txt is "dynamic" as in "dynamic list generation" -- similar to Gentoo's http page with dynamic generation of use flag info.
Keep up the great work! I'll go find someone at Gentoo site that can fix the text package list.
14 • RE: can't find Apache2 on apache (by ladislav at 2004-02-10 04:44:58 GMT)
The "httpd" package is called "apache2" in many distributions, including Mandrake, Debian, SUSE and all their derivatives (I believe it also used to be called that in Gentoo, there is still a CVS entry referring to "apache2"). So the logic is not quite flawed - it is still known by that name to many people, even if there is no "apache2" on apache.org.
Having said that, I hate these various renaming schemes - why can't the distributions keep the original package names? That goes for Gentoo as well, the original package is called "httpd", so I don't understand why a need to rename it to "apache" or "apache2". Slackware is the only distribution that does not rename packages while Debian is the worst by far. Ah well...
15 • renaming gone wild! (by detailguy on 2004-02-10 05:08:58 GMT)
Agree with you about package renaming and it must drive you crazy trying to track distros. Now that you point it out I do recall that Gentoo used apache2 name before returning to a more sane naming although it can be argued that apache now should be called "httpd" since they got the brilliant idea to rename (except for Windows MSI installer package for v2 apache).
While I still use Debian on servers you are absolutely correct that package renaming and rebundling on Debian is maddening and only salvation for a user is dpkg and apt-cache.
I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for you to maintain the info on this site!
Thanks again for your outstanding work -- it has saved me countless hours in the past while supporting customers that have no clue what version of RH/SuSE they are running.
16 • Re: bug or ban (by Ariszlo at 2004-02-10 11:14:30 GMT)
I had the problem with the Bratislava mirror using Konqueror or Mozilla 1.6. No problem with Internet Explorer :(
17 • onebase switch (by d on 2004-02-10 12:56:30 GMT)
i get onebase last week.. supposed to be a one a year thing, come back this week to check my md5.. the files are offline until 2k4-r1 edition comes out.. but like this has happened several times that the current version gets taken offline until the next one comes out.. is that not annoying?
18 • Re: onebase switch (by jlowell at 2004-02-10 16:41:29 GMT)
Annoying, most certainly, but not surprizing, d. When it comes to onebase, you always need to be wearing a pair of rubber boots.
jlowell
19 • headers though? (by ChrisS at 2004-02-10 22:32:32 GMT)
cool, but what distros are built with 2.6 headers?
20 • Xandros (by Fed up Penguin on 2004-02-10 23:00:57 GMT)
I can't believe it!
If I read yet another review, 'Xandros is ohh soo purrfect, it is the best thing after sliced salami', I'll be sick!
Is Xandros the M$ of the Linux distros? (it would seem so, if you read their licence and if you consider all the rest-price included)
21 • 2.6 is included in Ark Linux (by Bernhard Rosenkraenzer at 2004-02-11 05:52:50 GMT)
While it's not our default kernel, kernel 2.6 (2.6.2) is included in Ark Linux (install the kernel26 package).
22 • Re: Xandros (by IinstalledXandrosToday) :-) (by Gnobuddy at 2004-02-11 08:37:05 GMT)
Oddly enough, I just finished installing Xandros Desktop 2 , Deluxe Ed., on a new home-built PC today. This PC is being built for my wife, who teaches Photoshop at work and therefore *must* have Photoshop at home, along with one or two other Windows apps. I am sick of the ongoing battle of trying to keep her current Win98 box reasonably healthy and virus-free. So what I need is to run a few select Windows apps on a Linux box. Xandrows 2 Deluxe Ed. is the obvious answer.
Yes, you can what I want with Wine on any other Linux distro; I tried, and even got Photoshop and one other app working with Wine on a Mepis Linux box. However: I also suffered through the headaches of hand-tweaking Wine config files, trying to diagnose mysterious error messages from crashing Windows apps, hand-copying various Windows dlls into the Wine library folders, updating to what turned out to be a broken version of Wine, and finally trying to create menu entries and desktop icons manually for the installed Windows programs. All of this took me several days (I was learning as I went).
How did Xandros do at the same task? Pretty darn well. All the Windows apps I need installed flawlessly, with *no* manual tweaking of any kind; necessary dll and dcom files were automatically downloaded and installed; and nice menu entries, with icons, for the newly installed Windows apps were automatically created.
Since you're sick of hearing good things about Xandros, here are a few bad things I've found in one day of testing: One, the KDE "first time wizard" segfaults if you click the button to preview the KDE theme you've selected. Two, my Wacom Intuos 2 graphics tablet didn't work. Three, when I emailed for support on this issue I got an automatically generated response telling me that I would get a response within *FIVE WORKING DAYS*. That's way too slow IMHO.
Bottom line: for a Linux box for myself, I wouldn't buy Xandros 2. It's too pricey, has some old software (Mozilla 1.4, and no available online update to Mozilla 1.5 or 1.6 as of today, for instance), and is not designed to be heavily tweaked by the end user. It is also not bug-free, as witness my comments above, after only one day of testing. However, for my wife, or any other OS-agnostic person who simply wants a stable computer that runs the software they need, with a nice easy to use GUI, it boils down to this: Xandros has raised the bar for desktop Linux. It is so much better than the other desktop Linux's I've tried that its almost startling.
Even at a pricey $89 USD, Xandros is way cheaper than WindowsXP (yuck!) or a new Apple OS - all the OS X update's I've seen are priced at $129 USD, not counting the expensive Apple hardware needed to run them.
If we're all lucky, maybe some free Linux distro will get this good in a year or so. Until that happens, Xandros is the Linux I would recommend to my grandmother or my non-techie neighbours and friends.
-Gnobuddy
P.S. I solved the Wacom problem by simply unloading and then reloading the wacom module: su, rmmod wacom, insmod wacom. Apparently the wacom module is being loaded too early in the boot process??
23 • Re: bug or ban (by Ariszlo at 2004-02-11 09:06:16 GMT)
The Bratislava mirror does not work with Internet Explorer either (earlier, it possibly used the cache). The Budapest mirror gives a 'not found' message. http://www.distrowatch.com is fine.
24 • Re: Re: Xandros (by Gnobuddy) (by Fed up Penguin on 2004-02-11 11:53:08 GMT)
Thanks for your balanced reply.
Well, you see, if we must talk about value for money Suse Personal plus Wine Rack are cheaper and certainly you get more (Wine Rack is both Crossover and Winex-plus a nice game)
If you buy Suse Pro and Wine Rack, the difference is in what you get is beyond belief, and the cost only $20 more, maybe.
Suse is also not that difficult to use, once it is installed and configured by somebody slightly more experienced.
On the other hand if you need a really idiot-proof distro I prefer Lindows after all: it is cheaper (yes, only $50 a year subscription, and their releases are very frequent) and to me it looks a lot more polished (only the tutorial with the 'Developer's' release deserves to be seen)
True, you won't get Crossover included in the price, but maybe you can have it at a discount (from Lindows)
Also, I don't think that it is going to take a year for a good free, user friendly distro to come out: watch out for Ark, PCLinuxOS and Ares.
25 • KALANGO (by spearmint on 2004-02-11 14:10:23 GMT)
Good to see Kalango Linux here!
It's a excelent distribuition! Made for Brazillian and Portuguese people!
It is Kurumin-based (another excelent brazillian distro) but more "polished".
I recommend it to anyone! Especially if you are from Brazil or Portugal. Just boot with the CD to give it a try.
I sure hope that Kurumin and Kalango can work together to make even better distros!
cheers
26 • Xandros vs Suse+Wine Rack (by Gnobuddy at 2004-02-14 00:53:10 GMT)
Fed up Penguin wrote:
Well, you see, if we must talk about value for money Suse Personal plus Wine Rack are cheaper and certainly you get more (Wine Rack is both Crossover and Winex-plus a nice game)
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That does sound interesting!
Never having used Suse, I didn't think of the option you suggest. (I actually bought Suse a few years ago - I think around 2000 or thereabouts. I had troubles with the installer not liking my partitioning scheme - Windows was also on the hard drive - and then failing to boot, post-install. Today I know it was because I exceeded the 1024 cylinder / 8 Gig limit for the end of all bootable partitions, at the time I never figured it out and so gave up on Suse. Various negative reviews over the years and the thought of another wasted forty bucks have kept me from trying it again, too, since there's no easy way to try it for free.)
I did look at Crossover Office ($69 USD) and thought it worth spending the extra 20 bucks for Xandros 2 on the chance that the Xandros folks had ensured Crossover Office on Xandros worked properly. Dunno if Xandros developers tweaked either Crossover or Xandros 2 itself to fit each other, but certainly I was able to install Microsoft Office 97 and Adobe Photoshop 5.5 on Xandros 2 with no problems.
Of the free Linux distros I've used, the one that came closest to being as easy to use as Xandros 2 was the now-defunct JAMD linux. I hope Ares rises from the ashes of JAMD even better than its predecesser. I have also been impressed with Mepis. I have yet to try Ark and PCLinuxOS - maybe it's time to download and test them out!
Certainly these are exciting times in the Linux world. When Corel Linux came out, I remember being frustrated that it did not configure my ethernet card, and not being able to successfully do it manually. Today any number of Linux distros (Knoppix, Mepis, Mandrake, Xandros, etc, etc) will routinely configure eth0 and get you online with no intervention if you're on a network using DHCP. What with world-class software like Mozilla 1.6, KDE 3.2, OpenOffice 1.1 and Evolution 1.4, and the already-good Linux underpinnings, the next wave of Linux distros is going to be really fun to use.
-Gnobuddy
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