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1 • keep up the work (by maceto on 2003-10-27 14:13:20 GMT)
We`re hammering the site for new releases :-)
Can`t wait for the debian testing going stable with xfree 4.3 and maby even with redhat installer and some redhat admin proggies as mentioned by Ian M
2 • Good to see you back! (by Michael Valentine on 2003-10-27 14:41:49 GMT)
Hope you had a great vacation or time off! I was nearly going thru withdrawal symptoms without the daily updated that I come accustomed to. With regards to the Mandrake user complaining about you being biased, I would offer this advice. Don't worry about it and just keep up the great job. Every Distro has its flaws but none as obvious as Windows. We are all Linux users and should stand together, not bicker about what Distro is the best or worse. Support your favorite Distro, be it with monetary funds, programming skills or user support.
3 • ...so.... (by another misanthrope at 2003-10-27 14:42:11 GMT)
then...what are your "preferrred distros?" :)
Big props to you and your site - it is a HUGE timesaver in researching the various distros and I wouldn't be running MEPIS without this site!
4 • re: On anti-Mandrake bias (by peter on 2003-10-27 16:05:21 GMT)
one of the main reasons I "monitor" distrowatch.com is that sweet, subtle, omnipresent reformulation of the "there is no silver bullet" mantra...
IMHO Ladislav's oppinios are among the most objective ones I found on the net.
5 • re: On anti-Mandrake bias (by ghanthar on 2003-10-27 17:24:47 GMT)
this is Ladislaw's site and he is free to mention any negative thoughts. And as a person who downloaded (from club) and used 9.2 I can say that I would much more negative if I was Ladislaw.
6 • Not interested in "neutrality" (by DaveW on 2003-10-27 20:03:58 GMT)
What keeps me coming back to this great site is Ladislav's knowledge, curiousity and intgrity. I WANT his opinions because I've learned to trust that they're based on real experience not only with the distro in question, but with an extremely wide range of competing ones.
There are tons of places to find cold facts, but very very few that put those facts into a context that's useful to folks who are trying to find their way through the mazeworld of Linux.
My only criticism? Next time don't bother defending yourself against brainless whining of the type you quoted. You don't need to.
7 • Burapha linux (by L Gandolfo at 2003-10-27 21:24:36 GMT)
Ladislav,
First of all, keep up the (very) good work and never mind brainless criticism (Mandrake was my first distro but I was even called 'mad' because I wanted to see things improved-now I don't care any longer, my favourite distros are Libranet and Suse)
Do you know by any chance if you still need to give Burapha linux the whole HD?
I asked them with the previous version, but they never replied.
I began to get loads of spam in Thai instead.
Of course it can just be a coincidence....
8 • Your headiline "Warning: Mandrake 9.2 destroys hardware" (by Mahesh De Silva on 2003-10-27 22:14:26 GMT)
I feel it is very harsh on mandrake, due to the fact it's very misleading.
"Warning: Mandrake 9.2 destroys LG CD ROMs" would have been more appropriate.
For the newbie your implying a total melt down to there a PC and I feel this sort scare tactics is very amateur is from the such prominent website like yours.
PS. I am a mandrake fan, but I personally use Knoppix/Debian.
9 • Reply to De Silva (by DiegoG on 2003-10-27 23:37:06 GMT)
I think that persons who can't read past the title probably won't get their hands dirty with Linux either, so there's no real loss.
10 • Hardware Damage (by Honaby at 2003-10-28 04:00:19 GMT)
This was a comment posted from last week in response to my comment from fdavid: But I must admit, installing a non-commercial distro doesn't mean so mauch risk. I've never seen a damaged hardware because of a misconfigured linux distro. I'm not even sure that a misconfigured stable kernel can damage any of your hardware.
Well I guess this issue of DistroWatch proves me right! The risk is really there. And by the way, don't compare driving a car from installing Linux. There really is no point of comparison.
11 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2003-10-28 05:28:58 GMT)
"My email address is written on the bottom of every page and anybody who wishes to express his/her opinion...."
Here my (humble) opinion:
There is no other site like this one because, you have done a terrific job to date...
12 • Mandrake (by Anonymous on 2003-10-28 05:48:43 GMT)
You could be nice to Mandrake by throwing a party when its HPD breaks 1000.
13 • Re: Hardware Damage (by fdavid on 2003-10-28 08:51:13 GMT)
"This was a comment posted from last week in response to my comment from fdavid: But I must admit, installing a non-commercial distro doesn't mean so mauch risk. I've never seen a damaged hardware because of a misconfigured linux distro. I'm not even sure that a misconfigured stable kernel can damage any of your hardware.
Well I guess this issue of DistroWatch proves me right! The risk is really there."
AFAIK, the demage is caused by the firmware of LG CD-ROMs and not by the kernel. So it is not really upon misconfiguring a distro or the kernel. Please, don't mix up things!
"And by the way, don't compare driving a car from installing Linux. There really is no point of comparison."
It was just another (really common) example of doing sg at your own risk. Nobody takes care of you. Nobody gives you certainity that no harm will happen to you. That was what I meant. Again: don't mix up things!
14 • Mandrake - anti bias - hardware - and such (by Herbert U. Hübner at 2003-10-28 17:50:49 GMT)
I visit this site on a regular basis and couldn't find any anti bias to any ($distribution).
Related to an event like this - damaged hardware by a kernel - the words used in an article should be carefully choosen.
The above article 'Warning: Mandrake 9.2 destroys hardware' talks about a NEW kernel. Which isn't true.
The 2.4.22 kernel from kernel.org doesn't damage the drives.
The drives are damaged by a kernel modified by Mandrake.
In addition I wonder why through the RC cycles of Mandrake this failure hasn't been detected and solved.
Someone can not blame a hardware manufacturer for implementing 'inaccurate' standards. I have learned that most of the time the translation of foreign language standards or articles to the mother language of an individual ends in a wrong translation.
Thus resulting in an incorrect understanding of the matter.
Through the basic cycle of driver development certain pieces of hardware will most probably get damaged until the final version can be released to the public. This is a known fact.
However, the modification of an existing and stable driver should be left at the person/company who wrote the original.
With the kernel of 9.2 Mandrake has done some modification to a vital part of the kernel were they better would have kept their fingers away. In addtion they try to blame others for a problem that they have caused.
This is not the way to make friends.
15 • Re: fdavid (by Honaby at 2003-10-29 02:30:47 GMT)
I guess you are the one that is mixing things up...
If you read Ladislav's article, it clearly states that the Kernel config was the reason for the damage! And Herber U. Hubner says the same thing above.
Anyway, there's no point at arguing, i'm just expressing my point last week. No bad feelings.
16 • Re: Honaby (by fdavid on 2003-10-29 09:46:46 GMT)
"I guess you are the one that is mixing things up...
If you read Ladislav's article, it clearly states that the Kernel config was the reason for the damage! And Herber U. Hubner says the same thing above.
Anyway, there's no point at arguing, i'm just expressing my point last week. No bad feelings."
Interesting...I thoght neither patching nor modification of the kernel meant kernel configuration. So if you don't know what are you speaking of, please don't blame others with stupidly referencing them in your opinion. Nonetheless, cold you please quote that part, where Ladislav clearly states taht damages were caused by a misconfigured kernel?
You made a hazy misinterpretation of my post, and you do it again with other's posts, as well. You'd better just read instead of posting.
17 • re: fdavid (by Honaby at 2003-10-30 08:38:54 GMT)
Before anything gets worst... YOU in the first place, is the one who mis-interpreted my comments last week.
Anyway, as always, you are mixing things up and adding some more confusion to the topic. If you dont know how to read between the lines, its your problem. I never blamed anyone!!! Oh... by the way, there are links on Ladislav's article that points to what i'm talking about regarding the Kernel configuration of Mandrake. Sorry if I was too general on my words.
Again... this is all pointless... this is why we have this readers comments area... to express our opinions and comments.
If you think you are smart, then why not spend your time giving your own good opinions and comments rather than negating other peoples ideas.
18 • Bias, et al (by johnlowell on 2003-10-30 21:36:32 GMT)
When it comes to bias, we must always keep in mind the words of the famous philosopher, Albert Fardoogy, who once opined :
"You can fool some of the people some of the time,
And you can fool all of the people some of the time,
But you can't fool all of the people in the Summertime."
Truths such as this give meaning to our disagreements.
jlowell
19 • Dr. Fardoogy misquoted (by johnlowell on 2003-10-30 21:48:03 GMT)
I sincerely regret misquoting the learned Dr. Fardoogy.
The first line of the statement above should read:
"You can fool all of the people some of of the time"
My apologies. :-)
jlowell
20 • The misquote that won't die (by johnlowell on 2003-10-30 22:04:09 GMT)
Not to overly draw attention to this matter, but I see that I have as yet to quote Dr. Fardoogy accurately, evidence of a fast approaching dotage, I'm afraid. I don't know, maybe its my bias. In the interest of truth, here is the quotation in its entirety rendered properly:
"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
And you can fool all of the people some of the time,
But you can't fool all of the people in the Summertime."
Dr. Fardoogy was a great friend of Professor Erwin Cory; many of you may remember him. :-)
jlowell
21 • Re: See you next Monday (by ariszlo at 2003-11-05 17:14:45 GMT)
Where are you Ladislav? I am missing this week's Distrowatch Weekly.
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