2023.10.13 edition (there have been a few images since last reported to DW) works excellent
Installer is bulletproof on VM and hard disk, bios or efi, I've installed it in 4 machines new and old.
This is about the only TRUE without-systemd full distribution, with nearly most of arch packages working well, or rather faster with less resources used. Obarun is approaching a decade of history and reliability and those of us who got to experience it keep coming back. I would add joborun for more demanding users getting closer to bleeding edge (arch-testing) and are interested in building the entire installation otpiimized for machine from source, otherwise the same with Obarun.
If you like pacman and dislike systemd and its biproducts (elogind, udev, ...) and you want simple clean builds and dependencies Obarun and Joborun are for you. The myth about instability and breakage of Arch is more of an identity and scarecrow of arch, but Obarun builds well after arch-stable to avoid any such rare mishaps.
If it wasn't for Obarun I would leave linux all together and move to BSD land, openBSD most likely. There hasn't been a distro I tried that even comes close to this.
Pros:
- systemd-free
- 66tools is a convenience layer on top of s6, and it runs great! You can write scripts similar to systemd unit files
Cons:
- the community is poorly managed. They don't have an active chatroom (I went there once and there were only 2 or 3 people) and you can't sign up on the forums. I've emailed the owner but never got any responses.
- Many of the 66tools commands aren't logically consistent, so they have usability issues.
- The docs are outdated.
As much as I want to use it, I've had to go back to Ubuntu.
obarun is bold cool BUT
as they say the install scrip sucks.
i got a living obarun system running on HDD using the install script
however using the install script failed and a manually took it the rest of the way.
unfortunately i could not create my own computername instead obarun6 remained
I WANT to BE CLEAR. i LOVE the prospect of OBARUN without systemd
not that systemd is that bad except for the potential of a HUGE SECURITY RISK and that matters to many people.
I LIKE OBARUN for being systemd free and much like archlinux but without systemd
Migrated to Obraun from CentOS. S6, is really a good alternative to systemd, More efficient, more secure, with an independent journal for each service, which is not the case with journald. The management of the order of services and their dependencies is ensured with S6.
With Obarun, you consume less ram and disk space, than with CentOS.
You can use in production for your critical servers on last Obarun version. We have been running critical services for several months, without any incident.
Migrated to Obraun from CentOS. S6, is really a good alternative to systemd, More efficient, more secure, with an independent journal for each service, which is not the case with journald. The management of the order of services and their dependencies is ensured with S6.
With Obarun, you consume less ram and disk space, than with CentOS.
You can use in production for your critical servers on last Obarun version. We have been running critical services for several months, without any incident.
If it installs, Obarun is a great little distro. More arch-y than Arch, the most advanced supervision and init system around, a real winner. But only IF you get it installed, because the install process is a bit of a lottery. On some machines I installed it smoothly, without any issue. Other machines gave me the full Odyssey experience, just trying to get home but being faced with one legendary issue after another. Obarun tries to stay as close as it can to a distro that famously adopted systemd into every vein, whilst not applying systemd. This causes a lot of disconnects, which the team struggles to keep up with. Sometimes they are pretty up to date, sometimes they are way behind and issues pop up everywhere.
Experimenting with Obarun to satisfy my curiosity about the s6 init and supervision system turned into switching over the home server, the domotics machine, my laptop and my daily driver desktop. Even though it is still a bit rough around the edges, it's a transparent, elegantly simple and rock solid experience. Anyone with a little linux experience can navigate through the installation process well enough to set up any system required. All the advantages of Arch, none of the systemd black voodoo. Small but helpful community, obvious commitment to solid simplicity.
Migrated to Obarun from Artix because of elogind. I wanted to get rid of anything which is related to systemd in my system. Obarun certainly meets my needs. Obarun is fast & stable. The learning curve might be a little steep at beginning, but once you understands what s6/66 is about, you will stay with Obarun most likely. To me, Obarun is an ideal Linux distro like the old Arch before systemd era.
I have been using it for two weeks now. I have switched all the home PCs to Obarun. Very happy with this great system. S6 is really a good alternative to systemd, here well integrated to Arch.
The first integration of s6 / 66 within a distribution, and for a long time the only one. It seem now very mature and reliable. For me Obarun is the best distro not to use systemd or systemd parts like elogind. As you get used to it, it is very powerful, flexible and easy, but the beginning can be a bit overwhelming! Take your time, it is worth it ! The installer and the tools are simple and excellent. For the rest, Archlinux users will find their way there because apart from the init, it is a pure Archlinux.
Installer ==> the best
net install ==> blistering fast for many, normal for Arch
setup ==> you install and get to work
learning stimulation ==> s6 made accessible ..... the sky is the limit in potential here
No fluff no fat just a solid tasty energy bar among the decaying universalism linux is promoting
s6 looked really scary anywhere else I tried it, but after 66 everything else looks like a poorly hacked and distastefully patched maze. How can anyone move away from 66 is totally beyond me.
Version 2020-10 installation, all current and upgraded, sddm, kde/plasma works out of the box.
Unlike popular myths and rumour plasma does work without systemd and without elogind.
I have installed in the same machine the same desktop with the same desktop software from the most popular distributions providing a good plasma setup. Nothing even compares to the speed and responsiveness of Obarun.
Within a couple of days I learned all I need to know from 66 and enabling disabling needed/unneeded services. If I was asked to do the same with sysvinit or systemd after years and years of using them, it would probably take a week.
2023.10.13 edition (there have been a few images since last reported to DW) works excellent
Installer is bulletproof on VM and hard disk, bios or efi, I've installed it in 4 machines new and old.
This is about the only TRUE without-systemd full distribution, with nearly most of arch packages working well, or rather faster with less resources used. Obarun is approaching a decade of history and reliability and those of us who got to experience it keep coming back. I would add joborun for more demanding users getting closer to bleeding edge (arch-testing) and are interested in building the entire installation otpiimized for machine from source, otherwise the same with Obarun.
If you like pacman and dislike systemd and its biproducts (elogind, udev, ...) and you want simple clean builds and dependencies Obarun and Joborun are for you. The myth about instability and breakage of Arch is more of an identity and scarecrow of arch, but Obarun builds well after arch-stable to avoid any such rare mishaps.
If it wasn't for Obarun I would leave linux all together and move to BSD land, openBSD most likely. There hasn't been a distro I tried that even comes close to this.
Pros:
- systemd-free
- 66tools is a convenience layer on top of s6, and it runs great! You can write scripts similar to systemd unit files
Cons:
- the community is poorly managed. They don't have an active chatroom (I went there once and there were only 2 or 3 people) and you can't sign up on the forums. I've emailed the owner but never got any responses.
- Many of the 66tools commands aren't logically consistent, so they have usability issues.
- The docs are outdated.
As much as I want to use it, I've had to go back to Ubuntu.
obarun is bold cool BUT
as they say the install scrip sucks.
i got a living obarun system running on HDD using the install script
however using the install script failed and a manually took it the rest of the way.
unfortunately i could not create my own computername instead obarun6 remained
I WANT to BE CLEAR. i LOVE the prospect of OBARUN without systemd
not that systemd is that bad except for the potential of a HUGE SECURITY RISK and that matters to many people.
I LIKE OBARUN for being systemd free and much like archlinux but without systemd
Migrated to Obraun from CentOS. S6, is really a good alternative to systemd, More efficient, more secure, with an independent journal for each service, which is not the case with journald. The management of the order of services and their dependencies is ensured with S6.
With Obarun, you consume less ram and disk space, than with CentOS.
You can use in production for your critical servers on last Obarun version. We have been running critical services for several months, without any incident.
Migrated to Obraun from CentOS. S6, is really a good alternative to systemd, More efficient, more secure, with an independent journal for each service, which is not the case with journald. The management of the order of services and their dependencies is ensured with S6.
With Obarun, you consume less ram and disk space, than with CentOS.
You can use in production for your critical servers on last Obarun version. We have been running critical services for several months, without any incident.
If it installs, Obarun is a great little distro. More arch-y than Arch, the most advanced supervision and init system around, a real winner. But only IF you get it installed, because the install process is a bit of a lottery. On some machines I installed it smoothly, without any issue. Other machines gave me the full Odyssey experience, just trying to get home but being faced with one legendary issue after another. Obarun tries to stay as close as it can to a distro that famously adopted systemd into every vein, whilst not applying systemd. This causes a lot of disconnects, which the team struggles to keep up with. Sometimes they are pretty up to date, sometimes they are way behind and issues pop up everywhere.
Experimenting with Obarun to satisfy my curiosity about the s6 init and supervision system turned into switching over the home server, the domotics machine, my laptop and my daily driver desktop. Even though it is still a bit rough around the edges, it's a transparent, elegantly simple and rock solid experience. Anyone with a little linux experience can navigate through the installation process well enough to set up any system required. All the advantages of Arch, none of the systemd black voodoo. Small but helpful community, obvious commitment to solid simplicity.
Migrated to Obarun from Artix because of elogind. I wanted to get rid of anything which is related to systemd in my system. Obarun certainly meets my needs. Obarun is fast & stable. The learning curve might be a little steep at beginning, but once you understands what s6/66 is about, you will stay with Obarun most likely. To me, Obarun is an ideal Linux distro like the old Arch before systemd era.
I have been using it for two weeks now. I have switched all the home PCs to Obarun. Very happy with this great system. S6 is really a good alternative to systemd, here well integrated to Arch.
The first integration of s6 / 66 within a distribution, and for a long time the only one. It seem now very mature and reliable. For me Obarun is the best distro not to use systemd or systemd parts like elogind. As you get used to it, it is very powerful, flexible and easy, but the beginning can be a bit overwhelming! Take your time, it is worth it ! The installer and the tools are simple and excellent. For the rest, Archlinux users will find their way there because apart from the init, it is a pure Archlinux.
Installer ==> the best
net install ==> blistering fast for many, normal for Arch
setup ==> you install and get to work
learning stimulation ==> s6 made accessible ..... the sky is the limit in potential here
No fluff no fat just a solid tasty energy bar among the decaying universalism linux is promoting
s6 looked really scary anywhere else I tried it, but after 66 everything else looks like a poorly hacked and distastefully patched maze. How can anyone move away from 66 is totally beyond me.
Version 2020-10 installation, all current and upgraded, sddm, kde/plasma works out of the box.
Unlike popular myths and rumour plasma does work without systemd and without elogind.
I have installed in the same machine the same desktop with the same desktop software from the most popular distributions providing a good plasma setup. Nothing even compares to the speed and responsiveness of Obarun.
Within a couple of days I learned all I need to know from 66 and enabling disabling needed/unneeded services. If I was asked to do the same with sysvinit or systemd after years and years of using them, it would probably take a week.
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