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8.8 from 316 review(s)
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-24
Votes: 14
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Since Debian 12 was available for download it has been running smoothly. No problems so far, on Intel
platform. Wayland is also getting better and better and works well under KDE Plasma.
Debian is brilliant operating system:
1) it is perfectly stable;
2) it is endlessly flexible and customizable;
3) offers a wide range of software;
4) boots in 3 seconds (SSD disk);
5) uses little RAM and CPU, even under KDE;
6) offers many ways to install;
7) easy to add new repositories;
8) if some hardware is not supported out of the box, it is generally very easy
to add that same support, install drivers etc.
9) proxy servers and firewalls run very well under Debian;
10) all f-keys work out of the box, audio and brightness control;
11) font rendering is great (hinting=none makes it perfect);
12) very easy to install commercial software, like Bitdefender Endpoint Protection, Master pdf Editor, and
many more;
13) security tests give good result
Debian is probably the best operating system I have ever used and have tried most of them, Windows,
various UNIX systems, and many Linux systems.
Keep up the good work Debian. Thanks.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-22
Votes: 12
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Initially I was very reticent to use it. It was hard to set up and configure, especially to my liking and needs, so I looked elsewhere. I hopped onto so many distros, from Debian kids and grandkids to OpenSUSE to Manjaro to Arch to Fedora, and then I settled. But it still bothered me. Fedora was good, but was not giving me the satisfaction I wanted.
Next I tried Pop! OS and NixOS, and I loved them both. But I wasn't a happy camper yet.
Finally I decided to take the time tunnel, draw inspiration from my original mentors, download the ISO, and make it work. I installed it countless times on a VM, every time trying something new: different disk layouts; different FS formats; encryption or no encryption, and what partitions to encrypt; different DEs; no DEs. You name it, I tried it.
And kept the lessons.
So here I am, running Debian Bookworm with Gnome on an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift on my old faithful desktop. I preferred this configuration because my desktop also serves as a home server, and rebooting it after most updates, especially when they come too frequently, is an annoyance. It's rock solid and everything works. Couldn't be happier.
On my laptop, it's a different story. I opted for Debian Testing. Although updates come quite often, a full reboot isn't always required. The only problem is that, whenever it comes out of hibernation, I need to enter three passwords: one to unlock the root partition, one to unlock swap, and one to restore my session. If you think of it, it's a very small price to pay when you take security into consideration. Likewise, I have an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift, but also an encrypted swap partition. It's also rock solid and everything works.
Oh, I didn't mention the DE on the laptop… I have Gnome, i3, Sway, Qtile, herbstluftwm, and dwm.
As I look back (and sideways), I don't regret getting in earlier. I prefer to think that all the experience I got with the past distros helped prepare and shape me for this final upgrade.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-21
Votes: 10
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After some times on rpm distros (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, mostly), I needed some stable (not abruptly changing) distro.
Debian was an obvious choice, and with version 12 it's some smooth desktop experience: it works like a charm; it finds my printer; it's actually customizable; it finds my printer: it can be extremely minimal or it can be as "bloated" as you wish; it finds my printer; it's snappy and light on my medium-low hardware.
Oh, and it finds my printer.
The only thing I'm missing from Tumbleweed is it's wonderful font rendering.
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Version: 12
Rating: 3
Date: 2023-09-17
Votes: 0
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The full dvd installer was horrible. Kept on not detecting my system. Had to keep going back to do it over.
I tried the live version and installed it from there a lot easier.
It was ok until my wifi router blocked a malicious outgoing attempt to somewhere in France. Apparently the iptables firewall is set to allow everything in and out. So what's the point??
That was enough for me to remove it-no thanks
The kde desktop worked great though.
The installer set my same password for user and root although I had left that box unchecked. I was never asked to create a root user.
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Version: 12
Rating: 2
Date: 2023-09-16
Votes: 0
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Bookworm? Rather like crap!
WORST DEBIAN EVER!
Disclaimer: Okay, I have to admit that I use KDE and Wayland ;) but this horror show is anything but debian.
Some "highlights":
++ seems pretty energy efficient (35W idle instead of 40+)
+ install was nice and quick
+ better hardware accleration (well, blame the kernel)
-- ksysguard is gone and the replacement is horrible (even if you try to tune it or download presests)
-- hhd timeout 3hrs per gonme disks but it is NOT respected by OS
-- tried X11 instead but now my keyboard layout was stuck on US
-- many inconsistencies like accept neither pw (root, user)
-- sound screws up, especially with other apps (even nzbget), trying to rectify it I had a memory full instead ( at 64GB!)... reboot!
-- discovery is no good for installing anything (does not even show all packages, eg 7zip)
-- discovery does not show software available in apt-get, what is that good for anyway?
- no proper way to include LUKS partitions at installer
- Apper does not work any more as does not ask for pw
- Gwenview does not scale properly in Wayland or broken or both
- apps dont remember positions
- still the same stupid presets in KDE (not dark, no doubleclick, losing focus etc)
- smallest cursor on HiDPI like 4k
- mpv starts copying from SMB instead of playing (and so will SMPlayer)
- task switcher reduced to one preset called breeze (and no booklet, not anything else)
- restore session is preset but does not work for most apps
- dolphin still has no filter bar by default
- hstr not installed by default (not anymore)
- KDE layout has mostly become more wasteful and ugly (like windows10, title bar etc)
- still the most shitty player as default: dragon player instead of mpv or vlc
And last, but not least:
~ crappy baloo not on by default (well, depends on what you think of it, anyway)
Hoped for trying it out to see any improvements but gee! the multitude of scrwups in this release leaves me longing for my imperfect but finely tuned Bullseye.
Summary: FRANKENDEBIAN! If you are on a previous version, skip this version or at least wait half a year! I'd go back but I shot my boot partition (had backed up all the data but this one), especially if you are into KDE. Too much work to work around the flaws :( If there is no need to switch, then wait for D13. WIth that many fails, one star for trying and one for some minor improvements.
PS: Debian, how could let this one pass? I know many things are KDE but still how could you?
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-13
Votes: 53
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With Debian 12, other derivatives distro looks surplus
It is responsive with my 12 years old hardware, and It can handle all my daily works and gaming. Also one of the advantage is it has no bloatware and it is a real light-weight distro. Needless to say, it is ultra stable.
I will keep using it and perhaps I have no need to upgrade to Windows 11, as my computer is still in good shape. I can see hope out of the bond from Microsoft.
Hope Debian Team can keep up the good work and wish them success
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-12
Votes: 14
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My experience with Debian 12 has been extremely positive so far. This operating system combines stability, performance, customization, and a vast software ecosystem in a way that caters to all my needs. If you're looking for a reliable and highly enjoyable Linux experience, Debian 12 is definitely an excellent choice. I look forward to seeing how Debian will continue to evolve and improve in the future.
One of the first things I noticed was the solid performance of Debian 12. Even on older hardware, the operating system is fast and responsive. Boot times are quick, applications open without noticeable delays, and the overall user experience is smooth and efficient.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-12
Votes: 8
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Debian12 is the new Ubuntu. You can set up your environment in Debian very easily and Nvidia drivers can be installed with single line command. I tried many Distro but settled on Debian. Debian just works. Its like fill it, shut it, forget it.
Fedora is an abomination , I couldn't even get nvidia installed.
Arch is for masochist. I tried installing Virt manager in arch and it took me many arch wiki articles and youtube videos to do it meanwhile in Debian I clicked the install button from synaptic store and it just did the rest.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-11
Votes: 7
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The story goes like this. I have a 2006 macpro and the performance of the user interface of this granny is really smooth. I also have a 2011 PC with triple the specs and the linux graphical environments lag like hell. 3 weeks ago I decided to try Debian 12 Gnome. The revelation was liberating! The most heavy of the linux desktop environments (Gnome) now had the smoothest performance of all. Even when the memory usage was hitting the limits, the motion effects and overall responsiveness reminded me of the comfort and responsiveness of macosx BigSur. So I started cleaning the language bloatware (for which I hated this distro) with great pleasure. I installed extreme packages like wine-staging, changed the sound system to Pipewire and suddenly I got a PC with a user interface worthy of commercial ones. I use it for pro-audio (mixing/mastering) with Reaper, front and backend development (javaEE-springboot etc), social authoring. Fortunately, since Debian is a point release, I can keep this wonderful system supported for 5 years! I want to thank the Debian developers for their wonderful work and the ultimate tool they have generously given us.
-->Installed on 2011 AMD 8core, ATI Radeon Graphics Card, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-06
Votes: 25
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best distribuition of linux!!
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
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Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-29
Votes: 23
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I've been using Debian Testing for years and so far everything is working as expected. Only the RTL8821CE wireless card doesn't work out of the box. However, user tomaspinho's contribution on GitHub successfully solves the problem. In general the system runs fast and stable.
Configuration of my humble notebook:
OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid x86_64
Host: VivoBook 15_ASUS Laptop X540UAR 1.0
DE: MATE 1.26.1
CPU: Intel i3-7020U (4) @ 2.300GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 620
I just have to thank the Debian community for the excellent work.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-29
Votes: 50
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Debian right now is as friendly as it has ever been in my opinion
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
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Version: 12
Rating: 5
Date: 2023-08-28
Votes: 3
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Due to favorable reviews I decided to bite the bullet and fully install Debian 12 on my Mint 20.3 secondary desktop. Once I found the ISO on their 90's looking website, I burned it to a USB and started the installation process. I was immediately presented with a installation display that was not centered in the monitor, but instead was pushed so far to the right that the 'Continue' button at the bottom right only showed up as a 'Con' button. I went ahead with the installation anyway, was presented with a few more options than I was used to with Mint, set up both my root password and user password as requested, and was finally, after what seemed like a time consuming process, told to reboot into my brand new Linux desktop.
It rebooted very quickly into my chosen Cinnamon DE, and it was beautiful. I set about checking menu items to see what was there, set the date and time display to my liking, configured Firefox the way I wanted it, and tweaked a few other minor things. I then opened the terminal and and entered the command to update/upgrade. Bzzzzttt, it wouldn't allow me to do that even after trying both passwords. I got an error saying I didn't belong to the sudoers list. I don't recall ever seeing that error on any other full linux distro I've done, so I searched the net for a solution. Apparently I was to open a configuration file and add myself to the sudoers list. Now I'm certainly able to do that, but I shouldn't have to.
It was at that point that I realized if the distro didn't recognize my monitor resolution, and I had to google a solution to a significant issue I'd never encountered before in the first few minutes of a full installation, then maybe that installation isn't for me. I'm nearly 70, and shouldn't have to tinker with configuration files to be able to update my Linux desktop.
I then burned Mint 21.2 to another USB and proceeded with a full install that was error free, very fast, and didn't require tweaks to configuration files to get an update to work from the terminal. I likely would have given Debian 12 a much higher rating had it worked smoothly out of the box. It sure looked nice.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-24
Votes: 21
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install on old pc
CM: asrock z77e-itx
CPU: I5 3570K, 16gb ram
GPU: GTX 1660 S with 6GB of memory
IibreOffice in French, recognizes my printer (Lexmark_CS417dn)
Graphics driver they install very easily : )
is after installing Steam, I run 2 games without problem! (Valheim, Elite Dangerous)
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-24
Votes: 11
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Once you get past the network install you find a OS that is very good but also rather typical in terms of feeling that if I installed Fedora I could basically get the same experience. Yes, Gnome is perfectly fine, I actually find it refreshing coming from using Mac's and Windows 10. Not saying its better just different and not in a bad way. I get many of the same typical error logs I get in almost any Linux install. I have come to understand that most PC come with Windows and that is all the hardware makers bother to test. If it works in Windows its good to go. My issues come with the dreaded wireless card from Realtek this time a rather no name branded chip soldered into the Mini PC I bought from Geekom. Sadly, Geekom claimed it had a Intel wireless chip but apparently they used whatever was cheapest that manufacturing sequence. At least there is a driver that mostly works in 5Ghz band although not very fast or reliably. I have a LAN drop so plan to hook up to that but again another Reaktek chip for LAN as well. The mini PC will be mostly a last resort sort of PC in my house, something to just do basic tasks with. Windows 11 was way to heavy for this mini PC with a Celeron CPU albeit a 4 core model. The best thing I could do performance wise was to wipe Windows 11 and try some Linux distributions.
Like I said, Debian isn't really special its just one of the more stable desktop Linux out there. I don't like where Ubuntu is going, I also felt Mint was too unstable and don't care to dabble in Arch Linux at all.
It really comes down for me to Fedora or Debian and I chose Debian.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-16
Votes: 79
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I am not a programmer, just a long-time Linux-user who exclusively uses Linux-desktops and laptops for work (in humanities at a University) and at home. Since the 1990s, I tried out four different distro's and three desktops. I started with SuSE (KDE 3), then (due to the KDE 4-catastrophy) migrated to Ubuntu (Gnome), and then (due to toe Ubuntu'x experiment with Unity) to Debian (LxDE). When I got a new Lenovo T14 (AMD) Laptop, I was forced to switch to Fedora (LxDE) for some time, for Debian did not yet support the new hardware, but I was never able to get rid of a couple of problems. Hence I just switched back to Debian (again LxDE) and it works like a charm, just as I expected given my earlier experiences.
It is the most reliable and stable of the distro's I have used. It does not install unnecessary stuff and does not eat up unnecessary resources. It is also quite flexible and you find a lot of documentation online. Life-usb's allow you to try out whether everything works as it should, and if it does, installation from within the life-system is quite easy (encryption included), as is the regular installation procedure.
It is some time ago that I tried other desktops (since I am used to LxDE by now and it is easy to configure to introduce some sort of tiling-options, shortcuts etc), so I don't know how smooth they work. For me, however, Debian / LxDE / Kupfer (an old but fast and powerful launcher) and Recoll (for indexing full-text and desktop-search) is the perfect combination to get your work done and not be distracted by either bugs or glitzy features.
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-11
Votes: 34
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There were three bugs so far. One was of Flatpak and, thus, not regarded to its base. The other one was of the Acer’s UEFI. Unrelated too. I’ve been using Debian 12 for months as a workstation and have zero to complain of it.
The non-free firmware upheaval created a netinstall easier than that of Windows. In the second case, the UI remains totally not user friendly. It is ironic that the acclaimed easiest operating system is unnecessarily harder to get to run.
Live ISOs, which are a lot simpler to do their job, still are harder to find at debian.org. This is the sole reason I can’t give it a 10. If this problem wasn’t present, it could be a splendid choice for a beginner distro.
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Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-08-10
Votes: 5
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First thing that happened after installing Debian 12 was getting this annoying message over and over: N: Repository 'Debian bookworm' changed its 'firmware component' value from 'non-free' to 'non-free-firmware' and figured this might go away after a few weeks when they roll out a upgrade, never bothered with making a config file to turn it off, but I had to it after 3 weeks was way too annoying.
Then everything seemed to work just as Debian should for a week or two and then those hellish Raspi error message started, so took a look on Debian's forum to see what to do about them and there were a bunch of threads and everyone had a different solution, but ONLY one worked for me and that was to purge Raspi. Mind you that this is supposed to be Debian STABLE, why was the buggish Raspi even there in the first place? These two negative things, which some would consider minor, made me feel meh towards Debian, and I've always loved Debian. I had a better experience with the flawless Debian 11, also why in the world is 12 slower than 11?
And lastly.. Debian's website is still a nightmare!
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-09
Votes: 16
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Readers be forewarned that I am a Linux newb and that my review may not satisfy what you are looking for in one.
I have been using Linux for a couple of years now. I first started with Mint 20.1, I think. What a great experience that was. It breathed new life into my PC. There were some bumps along the road, but mostly, software breaking was my fault rather than the distro's.
Recently, I accidentally wiped out Windows 7 while distrohopping. (Luckily, the HDDs were accessible from the new distro, so I backed up my important files.) I then installed Windows 10. ... It broke within five hours. So I decided to totally start anew with a new Linux install over everything.
I tried a few distros, but none were polished enough for my liking. I tried going back to Mint, and installed 21.2 "Victoria". Everything was wrong. The stability, the cohesion was totally gone. Menus would break; I could not even shut down the computer! Senseless changes were forced onto the userbase. Worst of all, it lagged like nothing else. Not even Windows 10 lagged this much during its five-hour lifespan.
Distraught, I spent a while trying to figure out what distro to use. Eventually, I settled on Debian. I had heard that the new update made Debian a distro par excellence. So I took a dive, and voila! it has been an amazing experience so far.
Using the KDE desktop instead of Cinnamon or Gnome, I find that everything looks pretty and the workflow is great. UIs are mostly cohesive. And the system has not broken on me, or caused extreme lag for no reason. I have only experienced one bug so far--if that is what it is--: I cannot upgrade to LibreOffice 7.5 or whatever it is. The KDE LibreOffice integration software, which I am told not to uninstall, prevents me from fully uninstalling LibreOffice. But I can look past this.
Debian is now what Mint once was: a visually attractive, beginner-friendly, fast, and STABLE experience. I'm defecting!
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-05
Votes: 28
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I installed Debian 12 as soon as it came out with the declared bugs and migrating from Mint Vera. I wanted an environment that offered Wayland and Pipewire and decided that Gnome offered it with fewer bugs than KDE. Ubuntu was ruled out because of its Snaps policy, I can't run WebullDesktop on Manjaro or Arch, neither can Fedora, and RedHat's free software policy is becoming dubious. OpenSuse is difficult for me with Zipper and Yay at the same time. The truth is that Debian 12 worked like a custom glove for me, the bugs announced were not a big deal and the update to 12.1 was done without any pain. I finally decided that I wanted a more current Wayland dot and I wanted a more current Pipewire and I changed the repositories to Trixie testing minus the security update repository which I left in Debian 12. This is great...Very happy, I hope Trixie be as stable as Bookworm, that's a risk I take. Negative? It's just that the subvolumes for Timeshift are not created by default like they are in Linux Mint.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-01
Votes: 49
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We have used Debian or a spin off for about 19 years.
If your a Windows person it probably will be VERY confusing and a big jump to change to Linux.
I started with Root and Boot disks on 3.5" disks.
You would put the Boot disk in then the Root disk in.
It was terminal based only.
When package managers came in it was wonderful.
I could never get many apps to install.
I have told some one that I have root plus lots of info and I could not get a app to install!
No wonder there wasn't any malware on Linux.
I have tried many distros and have three favorites.
Debian, Fedora and Xubuntu.
I love the Linux distros because of their speed, security and configurability.
I dropped from Windows because of the malware, limited configurability.
When I first made the change it was very scary, it felt very foreign!
I was afraid of data corruption and many other things.
Funny, now when I use Windows it fells very foreign!
It also feels very cramped, restricted and controlled by others.
Debian is one of the fastest. Have had no problems with security.
I have one major grievance with Debian.
Why so many methods of installing it?
It seems three or four would be plenty.
Linux works with a great deal of hard ware.
You can not beat its security, speed or configurability.
You will have to learn stuff.
Comes with all kinds of languages to program in.
Perl, Python, C, and a favorite BASH.
Give Linux a try!!
Thanks to all that support Linux!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-31
Votes: 34
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Installed Debian on 5 different partitions recently. Being using Debian for the past many years with great success. Version 12 is even better than the previous ones. The first thing you notice is the tremendous speed of start-up and shut-down. Debian 12 is lightning fast. Boot is hardly more than 3 seconds! I run all Debian systems on both XFS (for /) and Ext4 (/home; /boot).
I have been using XFS for approx. 15 years with great results. It always does well. The Debian installer is one of the very best available in the computer world. Offers a lot of options. Graphical interface, installing in shell (without mouse), "automatic" vs. "manual", a selection of file systems [could actually also have the option of a UFS2 file system], and "Expert mode". It offers many more options than generally need to be used.
This device has never failed in the many Debian installations I've done, over two decades. Started using Linux in the early 2000's and stuck with it ever since.
Debian 12 automatically installs both WiFi firmware and CPU microcode. You can hardly think of a more convenient operating system, faster, more stable and more flexible than Debian.
Works very well e.g. with KDE5 Plasma and Cinnamon. Have used both interfaces with great success.
However, there are a few things to consider.
Take a good look at font rendering, which is a simple matter. Consider installing "rkhunter" and "chkrootkit". Also on Thinkpad: tp_smapi, acpi-call-dkms,
Privoxy proxy server (forward proxy server) and Nftables (firewall, good information online and easy to configure).
It is also good idea to install Timeshift and take a system backup with it.
This allows the entire system to be restored from scratch, IF something goes wrong (has never happened to me).
How long can good get better?
Thank you. Best wishes.
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Version: 12
Rating: 1
Date: 2023-07-29
Votes: 0
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It is unbelievable that Debian has 2 different graphical installers (plus the curses installer) that are very incapable of allowing to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks. So much hype around Debian and yet you can’t setup multiple BtrFS subvolumes on any of the terrible installers without “tricking” the installer in Expert Install mode which is very ridiculous (and tedious). Even worse, there is no documentation on how to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks properly (Google, DuckDuckGo, Luxxle searches are useless).
Save yourselves the headaches and trouble and go to a different distro that has better support of BtrFS on the installer (ex. MX Linux).
Who knows, maybe in 10 (or more) years the developers of Debian might add some support for BtrFS subvolumes on its ancient installer (if it’s even possible)…
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-28
Votes: 39
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All my computers and laptops have Debian installed.
Debian is a stable operating system, even on older slow computers.
Debian is the end result of everyone who tries to work on other systems.
Debian is a measure of your professionalism and understanding of Linux.
Use the XFCE desktop, this will allow you to create a desktop for your needs.
In XFCE, you need to configure the context menu and the panel.
For better control over your computer, you need to add a network indicator and processor load to the panel
Install and run ufw.
Everything else is optional and nothing more.
Use debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install the latest changes during installation
Thanks to the Debian developers and the community.
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Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-24
Votes: 0
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I started Linux in 2010 with Ubuntu.
Switched to Manjaro in 2014 so I would have reasonably recent versions of libreoffice that did not damage docx-files with pictures. Used it on 2 laptops and 2 media-centres (Kodi, NAs etc.) with the family.
Got a chromebook in 2016. Discovered I could do my work in Crostini in 2017/2018. Ran devian 9, 10 and 11 in my chromebook.
Got a Win-laptop from employer and discovered I could use wsl to do my work in linux, opted for debian because Win handles the install and low-level hardware access, so I did not need installer.
Discovered most apps now have appimages or make *.deb versions available (aside from tar-based like TOR-browser) so there was no need for "rolling" so I switched media-centres to debian.
2023: Now run debian on media-servers with and run linux 12 in WSL2 and Crostini and mixed chromeOS and W10/11 clients.
Debian 12 has been stable and reliable for me. With the kids mainly on ChromeOS and my work possible from most platforms (employer keeps sending emails ChromeOS may no longer access Employer's environment, but so far MS-Edge in linux allows sync-ing and I can use wsl2 apps ion one drive data. ).
I like Debian 12 a lot.
I only think Debian should make a simple fully encrypted install without needing to write to grub or other media available. At this moment the install is "experts only".
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Version: 12
Rating: 5
Date: 2023-07-24
Votes: 1
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Old time Debian user and admin. Some of the decisions in the past few years have not been user friendly. The latest with the apt-key fiasco has forced me away. Yes I understand 'why' it was deprecated. There is no shortage of search results for "why". There is however a total lack of "do this to fix it". There are plenty of examples including links to other sites and other projects or just "example.com" but this doesn't help when you are trying to locate the actual key the packages are signed with. Then when you finally locate them the shabby instruction found all over the internet doesn't resolve the issue. This really makes it look more like the repos were compromised rather than this being a "planned deprecation". Also... if you are going to deprecate something that could potentially break many systems in the wild. Should you not have another solution in place prior to the deprecation? Maybe we are waiting on systemd-key to take up the slack!? Debian... I have been with you for decades... this however above and beyond systemd... is the straw...
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Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-23
Votes: 0
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there are two things that I don't like which prevent me to give 10:
- Net installer takes so much time to download and install the software packages (about 7h to complete a Debian12 + MATE)
- Performances of my network connection are worse than Ubuntu, this makes me think that there is something in iwlwifi module very inefficient in default configuration
For the rest I like it, I am used to Ubuntu and now I can have an Ubuntu without all the commercial crappyness mounted by Canonical (snapd is evil)
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-22
Votes: 18
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Debian: pure and simple: customize to your heart's content.
PROS:
It's Debian, and many applications are available in .deb format.
CONS:
Calamares installer insists upon creating 2x RAM as swap. Use the netinstall or standard Debian Installer from boot instead.
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Use the netinstaller, and build your desired Debian from there. It's faster than the live installer.
Add useful repositories to customize further.
Debian allows you to build your own unique distro.
Use Linux Live Kit to achieve this.
Give something back, even if it's only a script.
Done.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-18
Votes: 24
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Debian 12 XFCE is running smoothly on my Thinkpad thus far. I opted for a clean install rather than upgrade from 11.7 because I had introduced some testing and unstable bits to 11.7. Everything in stable is serving me well though I have installed Firefox from unstable only because the ESR version gets stale too quickly for my taste. I like having the non-free repo by default. It's nice to have functional wifi and graphics from the start, though that never seemed too hard to resolve by obtaining the correct firmware bits. Debian takes a little fiddling as compared to some distros (Ubuntu-based distros, for example) but this creates an opportunity to learn something about what is actually happening. For those not inclined to fiddle with things from time to time, Debian might not be the right answer. For those who want a fairly straightforward and functional system without a lot of extra bells and whistles, I'd say give it a try.
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-07-15
Votes: 10
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If I'm rating it out of ten, then I must say that version 12 has been very solid for me so far. The inclusion of the non-free-firmware repo by default is nice, and the upgrade went smoothly on my server. On my desktop however, the upgrade didn't go very smoothly. I'll chalk this up to issues with Debian 11 though, since the issues I had upgrading were issues left over from my previous Debian 11 install.
Debian 12 does work fine on my desktop when installed from scratch, however I've had issues for a while now with the "wait, menu, wait, menu" style installer rubs me the wrong way.
To me, Debian 12 feels like an extension of Debian 11, but with ease-of-use optimizations. Adding the non-free-firmware repo is very nice, especially for someone with an Intel Wireless card in their PC. When the official distro adds better support for stuff like this, it makes it much more usable, since solutions to problems don't have to be so hacky, which leads to less problems.
A heavy con of Debian in general, continued into 12 is the package manager. Apt is easy to use, so I have no issue with that, but my problem with Debian's handling of the package manager is its lack of good non-free support. Apps like VS Code, Docker, Tailscale, and Spotify (just to name a few) all have to separately be added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d, which makes them more annoying to keep up with, and they heavily slow down apt update. This could easily be fixed by including flatpak, although the Debian team doesn't seem to be too keen on this. Flatpak CAN be installed, but they make it more annoying than a distro like Fedora, or Arch. If Debian kept a better closed-source software repo, or better support than flatpak, I would find Debian much more useful as a desktop distro.
Of course, on a server, none of this is really much of a problem, but it's still annoying nonetheless.
Overall, even while not being too much different than Debian 11, I really think that Debian 12 is a step in the right direction, and makes me much more optimistic about Debian, and makes me feel much more likely to reconsider it as my main distro, although the poor closed source/flatpak support sours this.
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Version: 12
Rating: 6
Date: 2023-07-14
Votes: 0
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With all the hype around Debian 12 I decided to distro hop to give it a try.
First installed DVD ISO via USB thumb drive. Picked internet repo, completed install, disconnected USB thumb drive, rebooted back to desktop, attempted to install from software store but it kept throwing errors trying to load from USB thumb drive. Why?
Reinstalling via net installer corrects previous issue but trying to install some common test softwares fail. sudo apt-get update fails so does su, apt-get update.
Not a fan of the default Gnome desktop environment either since it takes some getting used to.
At this point thinking about the saying about avoiding .0 releases so decided to give 11.7 a try. Hit another roadblock when it couldn't load WIFI drivers during install. Apparently, they're not included with 11.7 DVD ISO or net installer like with 12. After some digging found hidden 11.7 ISO with non-free drivers plus Cinnamon DE that successfully installs along with test software.
Final verdict is if you're interested in Debian stick with 11.7 but use ISO with non-free drivers if your device is fairly recent within a few years. Personally, going back to Linux Mint since it "just works" without jumping through hoops.
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Version: 12
Rating: 4
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 1
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I really want to like Debian, but in short.
1. The installer loads up corrupted. Graphically, like a jumbled mess of pixels. there is a workaround, but, BAH!
2. There is an issue with raspi-firmware (from memory) if you install it or use the live cds, which does, that will prevent you from upgrading when there is a new kernel, and there already is. there is a workaround, but BAH!
3. A lot of important, under the hood parts are just missing from the start. "gvfs-backends", user is not even in the sudo group, and the like. You can install them yourself, if you can even figure out what they are (all most of us would know is something is not working for some reason), but again, BAH!
I installed it about 3 times over three days (net install, livecd, legacy, UEFI) trying to get it all sorted out and did nothing but search for solutions to one problem after another, after another, after another, until BAH! Forget it!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 8
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Debian is installed on all computers and laptop.
Tried many desktops.
My opinion:
Gnome - developers have gone into a parallel world that does not intersect with users. Not for slow computers. If a miracle happens and gnome is installed, then during operation it will constantly stumble, fall, ask to close the application.
KDE is heavy, well, very heavy. Not for slow computers.
XFCE is our choice. The XFCE desktop has never let me down. Never fell. Works for years.
XFCE is the most stable, easy to set up and additionally allows you to quickly write your own context menu (on other desktops there is no context menu at all).
Make XFCE the default desktop.
Thanks to all Debian and XFCE developers.
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Version: 12
Rating: 1
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 0
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I've tested and it's the worst distro I've tried on my Pc (Intel Xeon 14 cores, 128Gb Ram, RTX 2070 Super, 256Gb SSD), moreover system frozen and stuck not reacting to anything after enabling option "adjust for TV" in Display settings, it can't connect to any repos for updates even by ethernet cable. In details:
1. The distribution of images is some of a mess, I've spent a 15 minutes trying to find a needed image on their website, it's horrible web design, you must go through 5 pages to get a final link for image file, with many confusing info in the way (at first I downloaded an edu version because on website they've stated "it's special version for Intel", but in reality it's just the education packet, nothing special for Intel procs, that package also failed to install as standalone non-server version, error on final steps if you don't tune it for school servers).
2. The installation process is kinda look simple but it always have some problems on the step with network adapters determination, which weirdly goes before everything, twice it wasn't able to detect ethernet cable adapter - not Intel, nor even Qualcomm, continued without network connect makes the problem on the step with app packages, it asks for "network mirror" to install updates right away, but it's not working no matter which servers I've chosen, it's breaking the whole install process.
3. Somehow finally installed system and Internet was detected, but I wasn't able to update anything, ticking all repos including non-free not worked=it showed some error message of cd/DVD image and next I've tried to tune the display and clicked "adjust to TV" (i use a 65 inch TV through HDMI as only main display) which changes maybe nothing except immediately broke the mouse cursor image into some visual artifacts (it moves but as bunch of pixel sprites, on standard nouveau driver,) -> after restarting system booted fully but completely frozen right away not reacting to mouse or keystrokes, kinda reacting like 1fps, mouse as bunch of sprites, I wasn't able to get into Display settings to remove TV option, maybe the 4K resolution of TV broken it (4K also break many Fedora distros, which incredibly slow on 3840x2160x60fps desktop). It's not usable for anything on my setup with TV, that's why lowest only 1 score, maybe using standard monitor it would work, but i don't need it that way. I deleted it.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-10
Votes: 41
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Version 12 surpassed the main objections people used to have about Debian: outdated packages and poor out-of-the-box hardware support. By incorporating non-free drivers on the default installation media, this issue was successfully addressed, and more people will have all hardware recognized and operational right after the installation process, just like what happens in other so-known as "well-polished" distributions, like Ubuntu and Mint. In my particular case, network cards demanded non-free drivers, and everything was installed automatically during the installation process. I only had to install manually the drivers for Nvidia video cards, but it just took some simple steps, as I followed the official docs page about this topic.
In general, the packages are not outdated as they used to be in the past Debian editions. Important packages like kernel, firmware, and desktop environments/applications are not so many versions behind other distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora. Since it focuses on being a very stable distribution, it's understandable that some time is required until packages are considered mature enough to be included in a release.
Although I've migrated from bleeding-edge Fedora 37/38 on my personal computers, I didn't see any substantial issues related to older packages. As mentioned before, at this moment, the difference between Debian and other bleeding-edge distributions is very small. Some minor problems can be managed by using Flatpaks or Docker containers.
Gnome 43.4 seems very polished and stable. The only drawback is the large amount of software installed by default installer, like many games, which would be better if it was left up to the user to install this kind of item manually later. I've spent at least ten minutes in Gnome Software to remove all the games that were installed by default. A minimal Gnome installation would be a better choice.
After migrating from Fedora 37/38, I'm satisfied with Debian 12 as a daily operational system for software development and office tools. Because I'm using Linux professionally on my main computers, I don't want to spend time fixing things that eventually will break on a system update. I used Arch Linux for three years, and it's a great Linux distro to learn in-depth about how Linux works. But I don't want to discover that my audio card or webcam stopped working due to a system upgrade when I'm about to start an online meeting. For this reason, I keep a distance from rolling-release distributions and appreciate more stable and tested systems. Due to the rising popularity of technologies like containers and flatpaks, the gap between stables and "unstables" distributions has considerably decreased. You can have a stable core and use newer packages only when they are really necessary.
Talking about servers, I'm migrating my dedicated servers and VPS from CentOS to Debian. The last RedHat decisions made me aware of the risks of using company-owned distributions. Since all the other viable options are maintained by companies, switching to Debian was a natural decision. Could someone point something as reliable and stable as Debian for the long run? A second choice could be FreeBSD, but many cloud providers don't provide this option.
Red Hat announced the changes in the way they distribute RHEL code just some days after the release of Debian 12. Was it just a coincidence? Or are there some people at Red Hat trying to suggest to the community that Debian is the right choice to replace RHEL-based systems?
We will never know the answer, but Debian surely can handle it well.
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Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-10
Votes: 0
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Works fine, and looks good. However, updating confronts us with a new kernel that is failing to configure. Each time you install something, you get the same error. But all works well and the original kernel stays in function. But it is something the devs should look at.
Nvidia install went as with Debian 10, so no suprise there, except this time I was recommended to install the correct driver instead of nvidia-drivers.
Evolution worked well.
Gnome works ok, but not as good as Rocky Linux. But Rocky is the best I ever used, honestly.
This does not mean Gnome works wrong on Debian, but Gnome needs time to really work like it should.
But honestly, I am happy with Debian 12 and the choice for the 6.1 kernel is a good decision.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-07
Votes: 21
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Ubuntu was the OS which brought me to Linux world. I almost always stuck to debian based distros, therefore I didn't like the approach of Fedora updating every 6 month. Now with RedHat (or IBM twisting RedHat's arm) is going full on anti-open sourceness, and Ubuntu shoving SNAP on us, Debian 12 is what saved me from the corporate dictatorship. It is a huge upgrade over Debian 11, which was based on quite older version of GNOME. The auto inclusion of non-free firmware by default is a blessing for us normal end users, who just want to use our PC without having to dig through dirt to find the driver for the hardware. Although GNOME is 43.4, and not 44, the upgrade is not very much concerning, I can live with that.
Huge respect to the developers and creators of Debian who contribute their time and strength to make this distro. Although I'm not a developer myself or know how to technically, I'd like to contribute financially to them.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-04
Votes: 30
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Works like a charm, fast boot, 0 issues so far since the upgrade.
Using if for virtualization, home automation / administration, Python / Web Development and also connected to a NAS serving as a home media server.
Been loyal to Debian for my daily desktop driver and for my servers. never had an unplanned downtime using stable version since Jessie. Bookworm made it great using the latest packages, will make people migrated to it over bloated Ubuntu.
Really love it! Proud to be part of the community,
Great job team!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-02
Votes: 29
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Debian is installed on all my 4 computers and laptop.
I kneel before the creator of Debian, eternal memory to him and a huge THANK YOU to the whole team who made Debian the most stable of all.
The old age of software is a myth, it's not true. I have compared many packages, they are much newer than Ubuntu packages.
I write programs in PyQt6, and this package is not available in other distributions.
Therefore, Dibian is the latest software.
My rating is 10 out of 10!
A huge THANK YOU to the entire DEBIAN team!
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Version: 12
Rating: 6
Date: 2023-06-30
Votes: 0
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No drastic changes overall...
However one let down is that the developers decided to automate non-free firmware and repos by default during the installation.
It woul be better if there was a step during the install that offered the user this option to be enabled instead - this would have been more in the spirit of Debian. Forcing of non-free repos and drivers during the install needs to be changed... Linux is about choice and not being force fed something by default. Yes you can turn this stuff off AFTER the installation, but by then you would have already installed non-free packages and so you will be doing un-necessary work in order to get rid of all of that stuff should this matter to you as a user. It almost feels like someone went for "easy" instead of the traditional Debian approach. This kinda sucks to be honest...
If this was some corporate product and developers were trying to make this more appealing and idiotproof for the consumer/customer I get it, but Debian is suppost to represent the opposite of this kind of approach.
...what's happening with Debian?
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Version: 12
Rating: 3
Date: 2023-06-29
Votes: 1
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To start off, I have previously written very positive reviews of Debian. Its therefore a shame I can't offer a positive endorsement of its latest release. It crashed on install, having finally managed to install it, it then crashed and locked up the system when running a system upgrade from konsole. It then crashed yet again installing certain software from the repository. All this in the space of about 40 minutes! Arrrgh!!!
Screen scaling was bad off the cuff and I had to go into display and sort that out, too. Certainly a more minor issue but after the problems I have just had, it left a bad taste.
I'll be frank, I think this release was premature. Its my view that further testing is needed to ensure stability and reasonable, if not perfect, optimization, for a range of users and equipment.
As a final note, the install laptop has run LMDE and Neptune Debian 11 very well and in the case of the former, ran it for 2 years, with barely an issue.
In closing still like Debian but will be sticking to previous releases, until this is hopefully sorted out.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-25
Votes: 65
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I have given a score of 10 because this time with version 12 Debian has for me at least nailed it. Everything works out of the box (on Workstation HP/Dell machines certified for Linux). The software that i use is not outdated (Firefox ESR maybe old but that's the one that i use anyway). All the software i need is there in the repos or is supported on Debian (Virtualbox hasn't made it yet to the repo but should soon) and i found no annoyances. And above all Debian is not run by a corporation - was free and will remain free - this is perhaps the most important factor for me. Took me a decade experience to understand that Stallman was right.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-25
Votes: 8
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Just blown away by this release! Had a funny 5 minutes getting Protonvpn-cli to work, but got there in the end. All the software works flawlessly and is not epically outdated this time. So smooth, with addition non-free software available at the tick of a box. Very happy, and FREE!!! So thanks Mint LMDE and Manjiro/Arch and Antrix, this current offering surpasses them all. I think my distro hopping has come to an end finally, it's about time (although I got rather good at clean installs!) Many thanks to the Debian team _/\_
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-24
Votes: 18
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Switched to linux in 2020. Have used arch, manjaro, xubuntu, puppy os, bodhi, fedora, cent os, etc. It was not too hard since I own 1 desktop and 6 laptops, plus a raspsberry pi. I've come to conclude that debian and puppy os are my favorites, and distros I plan to use for many years to come, perhaps even my whole life. Arch was my daily driver for over a year, and I've grown to despise it, I have retired it as my official "gaming and emulating old games and ONLY FOR GAMING distro", whilst debian is my daily driver for my many, many other computing needs. I tend to now recommend beginners skip ubuntu, and jump right to debian, of course, that is if they don't mind spending a couple hours with me helping them set it up on their PCs. If a beginner is going to install a distro all on their own and don't want to research online, ubuntu is still a decent choice, but I've heard every single friend who's tried ubuntu had it break eventually, including for me when I started out. I have never had a friend tell me their debian broke. Note I am also someone who does not care about the latest features, I really don't care if I am even behind by a couple years. If I need anything for my modern gaming needs, that is what my desktop PC with arch is for. I keep the two seperate for a reason.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 10
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I've always wanted to use Debian as in the past I tried PopOS, which was OK, and Sparky which I liked (I didn't have much luck with Arch derivatives; Manjaro broke, as did Artix and Endeavour OS). However, I found Debian 11 too difficult to install on my laptop due to firmware issues. Debian 12 works and the install on the live image is very easy. I like how there is no bloatware on Debian. Debian is what an OS should be: simple, small and stable. I also like how Debian is a community rather than a company.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 11
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Debian's installer is where it truly shines. Instead of relying on a generic setup, Debian allows for easy installation into a range of partition configurations. Skipping the installation of a desktop environment is a simple task, offering ultimate system control and customization to suit any user's preferences. The resulting operating system is minimalistic, to a comparable degree as Arch, but stable in comparison. Upgrades will be limited to security and bug fixes within the next year and a half. Furthermore, by installing Flatpak applications on top of a stable base, users can obtain regularly updated upstream apps.
Personally, I enjoyed installing a bare bones Gnome session and all of my preferred free and open-source software (FOSS) user applications for Gnome from Flatpak. This created a semi-rolling system where the core system assets have been rigorously tested for stability and safety while the apps I utilize for work and leisure remain up-to-date.
For those who have yet to explore Debian, this latest version serves as an excellent introduction.
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 3
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The GOAT of linux.
The only I am not giving a 10/10 is the following: for programming getting up to date releases of programming languages can be a pain, as the ones included in standard repositories will lag behind a bit. There might also be a moderate learning curve for noobs. In regards to getting bleeding edge desktop applications, you should be using Flatpak anyways.
By far the best overall Linux distribution in my opinion.
If you want a more brain-dead solution however, I recommend Linux Mint for a general desktop computer, or Ubuntu for software development. They're less cohesive, slower and more resource-hungry, but they're more brain-dead easy for noobs.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 1
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What to write? In short - this is it! Linux at its best. Simple, extremely stable, good old-fashioned but modern at the same time - that's Debian. For a long time I have been distrohopping, and I used to skip Debian - it was stable, but quite outdated, especially in design, and there were often problems with hardware support. That's over - Debian 12 combines modernity, simplicity and stability at the same time. Ubuntu never again! It may have a beautiful design, but it is going the way of Windows - huge size, Snap packages, the user is no longer the first priority - orientation towards servers and IoT. The only advantage of Ubuntu is the unparalleled hardware support, which for many will weigh in. Debian 12's inclusion of non-free repositories in the installation reduces this problem quite a bit. It makes up for its shortcomings with the extreme number of software packages available in the repositories (over 100,000), rock solid stability, and a focus on user-centricity and usability! Plus, support for 32 bit systems (admittedly the last time, but tell me, which Linux still offers this in its major versions?) and free and open source software. What more could you ask for?
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 0
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Installed from Debian 12 KDE live without a hitch . Almost everything working flawlessly. The feeling of great stability and reliability is unmatched, and if that's important to you, then it's a big deal. One fly in the ointment is Zoom, that won't load properly in Bookworm, although it works fine in Bullseye. I love Debian, but also use MX Linux and Mint. Did a manual install with a boot/efi drive, a root partition, and /home. The fat 32 efi partition held the boot flag and grub was installed onto the correct drive. Very convenient having the firmware as part of the install.
Still helpful to go to /etc/apt/sources.list and add contrib and non-free to entries even though we now see a non-free firmware entry.
Enjoy
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-22
Votes: 6
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I am a veteran Linux user.
Up to Debian version 10, I have never used Debian, only Ubuntu and other Debian based distributions. Since version 10, I decided to use Debian mostly on my VPS instances, and slowly after that on my desktop/laptop and local servers.
I must say that version 12 is the best Debian I had the chance to use. Everything works flawlessly.
I am using Debian 12 with GNOME on my main laptop, and another with KDE on a desktop. Both are great, but I tend to like GNOME better, as it has no flow and stays out of your way. However, KDE does offer some great apps that you don't have in GNOME. Nevertheless, Debian as the underlying system is rock solid. I have already installed it on my VPS and local servers too, to replace the old version 11.
My advice is to try Debian 12 as your daily driver, and you will not regret. Chances are, you might start liking it so much that you will continue to use it over any other Linux distro out there.
Throughout the time, I have used openSUSE (extensively until they started doing an awful job with the distro), Ubuntu (until they messed up too), Fedora (which I still love) and now Debian (which I find the best of them all).
Thank you, Debian developers. Keep up the good work.
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-20
Votes: 9
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I love the configuration options, rather than getting the OOTB experience, I choose exactly what I want and get what I want. I'm currently using KDE plasma for the same reason and the manual expert install works perfectly on new and old hardware.
I've done updates from older versions and usually do that but prefer a fresh install, since I run a daily cron job to backup my data to a second drive.
It's easy to add third party software that isn't included; for example I run Proton VPN, using the protonvpn-cli. I also use Signal and Cloudflare WARP.
Other distros may be easier to install on the latest harware but with backports it's easy to get later kernels and I haven't had any hardware isues is the last decade or more.
Customization takes time, but the results are worthwhile. I understand that not everyone wants to do that.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-19
Votes: 15
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Firstly I have to say that I've always heard about Debian and how great it was, but also how it's not for beginners. This really is just the truth, Debian is an amazing independent distro that delivers stability and speed, though in the hands of an inexperienced user would be something frustrating and confusing.
My distro hopping journey began in 2015 with Parsix (which was a terrible distro and it's not even being developed anymore) which lead me to Ubuntu, then Mint, and lastly MX linux (before settling on Debian 12). All of these distros were based off of Debian (Mint being based off of Ubuntu) and all of them were easy to install but ALWAYS had some problems later. My last distro before finally trying Debian 11 was MX and I have to say if it wasn't for the MX Linux community I wouldn't even be writing this review, they always praised Debian giving them a stable base for their OS which ultimately got me asking myself "MX is great but... why don't I just use Debian for the ultimate stability?". Then about a month and a half ago my MX 21.3 went through an update which knocked out my wireless card with some weird driver issue (something that should have never happened), and that was the final push for me to stop using distros based off of other distros. I was done using these easy to install now and a bunch of problems happening later distros..I was just so sick and tried of it all..
From there I tried Debain 11, my VERY FIRST independent distro. It wasn't easy to install but WOW it was so fast, so stable, and an amazing os. There is a lot of 'Do it yourself' things one needs to do when using Debain, but if you know what you're doing that's not a problem.The funny thing is I acutally installed Debian 11 the very day that Debian 12 was relased but didn't know until the next day lol. Though last weekend I installed Debian 12 just for longer support and glad I did.
I have to say, I'm probably going to use Debian for years to come and so happy that I'm done distro hopping for good! Thank you to everyone who helps with the developement of Debian. I was so close to going back to using Mint or Windows 10 (I might have tried using Arch).
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-18
Votes: 22
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fast.
stable.
easier to set up.
gnome 43 [the only reason i did not like bullseye was b/c of 3.38].
waiting for benchmarks ... but this is a fast beast.
where are the ~100 bugs?
i had migrated everything on my desktops to rocky/rhel, but my laptop is now back to debian for good reason.
excellent software, unbelievable that this is available for free use.
not much more to say, but to continue enjoying it along with the community. why do i even bother with other distros, I wonder....
rhel is great; debian is better for me.
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Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-18
Votes: 2
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I have been using Debian in my main PC Desktop, home server and laptop for years.
I was happy with Bullseye stability but trying other distros in VMs made me think to upgrade, at the end I never found the time to install other distro with newer packages, finally Debian 12 was releases and I can't be happier with it.
The only reason I didn't scored it as 10 was just because I had to compile my wifi driver, other than that, very solid distro.
I don't see myself changing my main distro any time soon.
Greetings from Costa Rica!!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-17
Votes: 27
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Hi there. Here's my POV about Debian:
It's been my base distro since i have started using linux. I have used some others like Arch, mint and slack, which are great, and some others like deepin and ubuntu where i had no luck at all .
In the end i always end up installing debian again. Not to mention that's fully compatible with my nvidia board.
So , if you're looking stability and reliablity you're on the right spot with this Distro.
I use Xfce for my Graphical Environment and everything works flawlessly.
That's it.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-17
Votes: 5
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I was interested in the build quality of Debian 12 and how it compared to the current Ubuntu LTS. Debian 12 just works flawlessly on my system! I am very impressed! I expected to find graphical glitches with Wayland similar to Ubuntu but I am not finding any!
Debian 12 runs smooth and is very responsive. In my personal opinion, Debian 12 is one of the best releases I have tried. I run Linux Mint on my main desktop but Debian 12 is for sure a keeper on my HP laptop. It took all of 15 minutes to install and set up to my liking.
I expect more distros will be switching to a Debian base to avoid snaps not to mention the higher level of quality Debian provides. This truly is some very fine work!
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Version: 12
Rating: 5
Date: 2023-06-16
Votes: 0
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I have not learned.
I had issues upgrading to Jessie, Stretch, Buster, Bullseye (have I missed one?) and should know by now that I need to wait until (at least) the first point release before bothering.
The main issue is that some of the software I rely on is not yet ready for Bookworm, and this always seems to be the case (I realise that this is not Debian's fault!). But I downloaded the net Net Installer and gave it a go. As I do every 2 years. And removed it after about an hour.
I'll wait until Christmas, and try again.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-15
Votes: 14
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Great work as usual by the Debian community and development team, which has outdone itself with this bookworm distribution.
Particularly to be appreciated is the default inclusion of non-free-firmware in the main repositories.
Installation via the network went smoothly and quickly, resulting in a balanced and fully functional system with excellent graphics. With apt via terminal or the Synaptic graphical apt, which I have been using for years, anyone can install as many software packages as they want according to their wishes and needs without any problems. Also to be appreciated is the clean and elegant Gnome 43.4, which can then be enriched with the available extensions one wishes.
A big thank you to the entire Debian community, which for more than 30 years has made available to everyone a free operating system that I personally have been using for at least 20 years and which improves release after release in terms of ease of installation and use, an operating system that in the stable version is an unshakable rock in every situation.
Thank you Debian!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-15
Votes: 53
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Debian is the basis for many systems. I've always wanted to run Debian on my system for a long time because of the stability that Debian provides. However, the previous version lacked the polish that other distributions provided, needed some tinkering to make it usable, and seemed to be aimed at advanced users. debian 12 has completely changed my mind. I'm running KDE. Finally, here is a Debian 12 system that thinks about the user.
kde works perfectly, stably
Good luck to the whole team.
Thank you Debian!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-14
Votes: 15
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Absolute stability, wayland, pipewire, beautiful, fast, running last software with flatpak and all is great and working!! What to wish? To Debian very little really it's a perfect system. To the people what makes programs only for Windows what change their heads. I am really delight with the Debian 12's performance.
I stay with gnome-chess the sudoku and quadrapassel, but another games I feel how bloatware and delete, it is a one time hassle only. Meteorology what comes in every gnome distribution continues without give service to my country and was deleted.
More handy things: The installator give the choice of only install the drivers for your system, very good!
Marvellous!
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Version: 12
Rating: 7
Date: 2023-06-14
Votes: 0
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Debian provides the base for so many systems. I've always wanted to run this "base" on my system for a long time for the stability that Debian provides. However, the previous version lacked the polish that other distros provided, required fiddling to make it usable and seemed geared towards advanced users. v12 has totally changed my mind. I am running KDE and overall the experience has been great so far. Finally, here is a Debian system that has the user in its mind.
Kudos to the team. Here's hoping for many more years and no more distro hopping (this won't happen).
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-14
Votes: 1
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The overall impression about Debian 12 is really positive: I tried it yesterday on my Virtualbox by using 2GB RAM and a dual-core processor and all worked perfectly with great stability as well. Amazing job as usual by Debian developers!
P.S: the XFCE 4.18 version equipped with 6.1 kernel ran smoothly and I consider it the best one along with MX Linux's and Loc-OS Linux's. I am so proud of being a huge Debian fan me too and I hope the following point releases improve better and better this yet good distro.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 15
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Overall, I am really happy with the new release of Debian 12 (Bookworm). Upgrading was miraculously pain-free and fast, unlike in the past when it was like playing Russian roulette with your data. The new Xfce 4.18 is working great, especially with Thunar now offering split view mode (something other file managers like Caja already do).
The kernel that ships with this release is the 6.1 series, which is where Rust support is improving. I've also successfully gotten Wayland running with little effort. This is good news, because Xorg is unmaintained while still providing stability over Wayland (which should hopefully change soon).
All-in-all, a fantastic job (once again) by the Debian developers!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 26
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This version is perfection! The Linux 6.1 kernel is at the heart of Debian 12 .12 includes LibreOffice 7.4.5.1, Evolution 3.46.4-2, Transmission 3.0, and Mozilla Firefox ESR; tooling and notable development package updates available include Nginx 1.22, Emacs 28.2, PHP 8.2, systemd 252, Python 3.11.2, Perl 5.36, and Vim 9.0. . also the the main ISO contains both free and non-free software, though what is installed from the ISO will depend on the users needs/wants. Thus, if you want to download Debian and have non-free firmware, graphics drivers, etc enabled you don’t need to use a different ISO.
this was easy to install runs super fast the best distro i used in awhile
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Version: 11
Rating: 4
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 0
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Initially impressed with the installer. It allows you to chose which desktop environment withing the installer instead of downloading a iso specifically for the desktop environment you chose. All Linux distros should offer this. More explanation should be available for the process of selecting the distro because its easy to mes up installation at this point. the amount of fixing after installation is not worth the time. I have to fix the video drivers and i have to ad myself to root to fix the video drivers while looking at a difficult to navigate screen resolution. A distro should work out of the box. Moving on.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 5
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I have been experiencing slowness on my 6-year-old Dell notebook with Windows 11 for quite some time. PyCharm was starting very slow, other apps too, UI changes were not good, etc.
I tried Linux Mint and it was awesome.
Now, with Debian free / non-free I am migrating everything to Debian 12. What a wonderful idea not to hold hostages the users and simply to give the possibility to choose between free and non-free sources. I think Debian team did THE right choice! This should have been done a long time ago. Everyone can still choose and go for pure open source or mixed installation.
I am very grateful to the Debian team!!! :-)
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 3
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The new Debian 12 Bookworm is just wonderful. I use it with the KDE Plasma desktop environment and everything works flowlessly. I am a long time Debian user and I was really looking forward to this new release. I really appreaciate how the Debian developers are able to put together such a wonderful piece of software like Debian. Hats off to all of you out there!!!
I will slowly upgrade all my systems to the new Debian 12 version. All my virtual private servers (2) are running Debian. My local servers (4) are running Debian too. And, of course, my laptops (2) are also running Debian. Debian all the way.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-13
Votes: 1
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My congratulations for a job well done Debian 12 release. I have it installed on two of my laptops now. Gnome on my XPS13 and Plasma on my acer swift. On the plasma I did a "light" desktop install using apt install kde-plasma-desktop plasma-nm in lieu of the task-plasma-desktop. I like having that option. On Gnome it is version 43 which good by me, I have not seen anything in 44 to blow off my side burns. The extensions are what is really helping gnome become more user friendly.
Debian needed a new direction and they took it after the vote earlier this year. So I left Fedora and tried on Debian. The fit was good and felt down right "top-shelf professional". I don't like Fedora's heavy handed use of ZRAM, I do like Debian does not use it at all. I was pleased to learn Debian is the only distro that votes on their leaders. What a great structure, I can get behind that concept. They have freshened up their desktop experience. Big feature too is the large number packages available for apps. You can install veracrypt easily and I love freefilesync. On fedora you have to get ffs off flatpak but at Debian right there in stable repo.
I installed and used Debian a couple of years ago while I was still learning linux. I enjoyed the stability and great documentation but it seemed a bit aged and I simply prefer something easier to install. I'm not crazy about their graphical installer but it will do. I am happy about their firmware change. Like others they are opening up more to flatpaks, these are great decisions.
I still have to add some codecs, repos etc. but I can live with that. Soon I'll be installing the xanmod kernel maybe get even more zoom zoom.Okay I'm done. Just having fun now but seriously Debian has made great improvement and I congratulate them for the fine work they produce. It even shows in their classic and artistic themes created with each release. I'll be calling this home for a while, Debian has a lot to offer today. You should not shy away from Debian if tried it in the past and left. I think you will be pleased with the improvements and you have to love the reliability, stability and knowledge filled community that comes built right in.
GO TEAM DEBIAN
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Version: 12
Rating: 1
Date: 2023-06-12
Votes: 0
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As a long time Debian user of various releases I am very disappointed that the boot-loader on my Dell 7040 refuses to start after install, tried 3 times using the net installer, I even downloaded a new iso and redone the usb drive but to no avail. Then I thought I would try the live cd, well no different its a total disaster on this machine.
Ubuntu/Mint/Alma/Mx all run and boot perfectly, so if you have a Dell 7040 be ready for disappointment. Was told to disable secure boot Uefi and use Grub, well I aint doing that...all other distro's work fine using the extra security it provides.
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Version: 12
Rating: 6
Date: 2023-06-12
Votes: 0
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Personally, i dont understand why people say that Debian is good distro, when there is Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora and Manjaro(Arch) available. First impression is very important, and Debian installer is ugly and has too many steps. I was disappointed already during installation. Then, Debian did not installed VM drivers. Why Fedora or Ubuntu can figure it out that they are in VMware, but Debian 12 cant?? Wallpapers with Debian logo are ugly. Also there is a lot of crap that Debian installs by default, for example - stupid logic games. Are you seriously think that everybody need that? Well, but there is no ed editor(which is POSIX requirement). Ed weights just a few KB, but they decided that logic games are more important in Linux system i guess. By the way, by default apt is not working, they force you to go into package manager and choose that you want to use online repos. Why?? Why it is so unbearably bad? And why someone would choose this distro? I was distro hopping for last year, and this is seriously - worst distribution there is. Choose Mint, choose Ubuntu, choose Fedora, choose Manjaro, but for God's sake, dont install this ugly piece of [censored].
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-12
Votes: 0
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The difference in usability from Debian 11 is massive, drivers are installed by default. Also the stability is world class! I have always loved Debian, and now its even better! Huge thank you to everyone who contributed to this amazing Linux distro! Using the cinnamon desktop which is clean and fast, dual monitor works at first boot, is the past was a headache to get usable. To anyone who has tried Debian in the past and had a difficult time getting drivers working, try it now. Debian has always been the greatest in my mind, now is even better!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-11
Votes: 33
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What a pleasant surprise. Loaded the KDE version - took me a couple of attempts because of lack of familiarity with installer - but everything work. A noticeable improvement over Kubuntu with a clearer picture in both x11 and Wayland and without the glitches to sound settings. Very impressed with incorporation of non-free firmware and sources and the seamless incorporation of both snap and flatpak. The biggest problem with Debian in the past has been the age of its software. The only obvious remnant now is Firefox 102 ESR and I can live with that. Truly impressive.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-11
Votes: 5
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For a couple of years now, my main OS has been Debian, namely Netinstall. I manually install the LXQt environment with the --no-install-recommends option. Which also allows me to avoid a lot of pre-installed programs and packages that I don't need. For the past few months, I've been living in Debian Sid, adding additional Sparky Linux repositories. And now I've installed Debian 12 Stable with just a few tweaks to the Sparky repositories and removed testing. The Sparky repositories have the brave-browser, xnview, and many other packages I need, allowing them to be automatically updated. Package lists can be seen at repo.sparkylinux.org
I try a lot of other distributions at the same time, and none of them can achieve the same perfection as Debian!
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-11
Votes: 7
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Thanks to the Debian developers, I am happy to use Debian12.
I have tried many distributions and finally always come back to Debian or Devuan... Ubuntu, LinuxMint, Zorin, Arch, Manjaro, Artix, Void, Slackware, OpenBSD,,,I have tried many, Debian is the easiest to use.
Debian is very easy to use and stable. I like Debian because all the necessary software can be easily installed.
LUKS was improved in Debian 12.
The seahorse bug was also improved.
I am very happy.
I will continue to use Debian or Devuan stable, testing and sid.
Thank you to all the developers.
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Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-11
Votes: 1
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Well done developers! I am so impressed with the look, the performance- everything with this distro. I have always admired Debian and now, finally we have what truly feels like a premium top-shelf product right out of the box. I have a 2012 MacBook Air that I was seriously considering replacing as even MacOS Catalina is crawling. Now, my laptop feels reborn, as fast as I ever remember it. The machine runs substantially cooler even with zoom meetings and videos/movies playing. All the codecs are in play upon installation as well. Way to go Debian I love my laptop again!!!
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-10
Votes: 11
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Debian has been my favorite distro for years. It is installed on all my computers as the only OS (4 laptops, 2 servers and a PC). My main laptop has been under testing (Debian 12) for a few weeks and as always I'm not disappointed. The incorporation of non-free firmware into the official repositories is really a big change for Debian. We can even say that it is a real revolution. This proves that Debian developers know how to challenge themselves and evolve for the greater benefit of everyone. Long Live Debian!
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Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-08
Votes: 9
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I tried 12 RC4, which is more or less the final version, with the GNOME 43 desktop.
The graphical (non-Calamares) installer has a lot of steps but is thorough and understandable. It is possible to skip through all the values and get a sound installation because the defaults are so well chosen for a desktop machine; the only explicit actions are to confirm that the SSD is to be overwritten.
The GNOME interpretation has some oddities - there are a lot of games installed - but it is classic "just works". There was very little need to configure anything; in fact, the only non-trivial change I made was to install flathub. A number of common errors, such as providing no means to manage extensions even although there are extensions installed, are not made here; everything fits together like a jigsaw. I can select WPA3 as the Wi-Fi encryption method from the Control Centre; it is surprising how many distributions don't offer it.
From memory of older versions it appears that 12 has much better integrated language options. There are fewer single-language terminals and similar.
In operation, 12 is solid. Again the issues which trip up distributions just don't occur; for example, sleep doesn't unexpectedly stop, a common issue I have found. Literally the only error I found is that PDFs are by default associated with LibreOffice rather than evince, but that is easily fixed.
The only minor issue I have is that, if the SSD is encrypted, on boot the password has to be typed into a blank screen with a tiny font. It would be better to have a designed password entry screen like Ubuntu or Fedora.
Yet again Debian provides a solid and dependable update. I suspect that my setup - Debian for the infrastructure with flatpak for the applications - will be a common one.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-04
Votes: 24
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It is very good that debian is becoming more open and friendly to ordinary users. Adding non-free firmware is a very important step in this direction. I think it will attract more new users. It's great that such an important mastodon is now a little easier to set up and use. For some reason, I'm not ready to completely switch to Linux yet, on one of the two laptops Windows is still installed, but on the other, debian is already installed. I'm waiting for the release of version 12 of bookworm. Thanks community!
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Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-05-29
Votes: 39
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Tried the testing edition (Bookworm) and have been so impressed I immediately switched all of my machines to Debian.
What kept me from trying Debian in my 10+ years of using Linux was the exclusion of non-free firmware from the installer. This has been changed with Bookworm.
It has probably the most sane defaults I've encountered in a distribution. It required really minimal extra configuration, and anyone with a bit of Linux experience should find it very easy to set up. The #kdeplasma default environment is excellent as well, hats off to everyone who contributes to both projects.
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Version: 11
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-28
Votes: 4
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Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....
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Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-05-27
Votes: 5
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Debian can be perfect on condition :
1. You use the net-install available : debian.org/releases/xyz
xyz being : stable, testing or sid
2. Steer clear of the predefined desktop-packages
3. Replace systemd
(HowTo : wiki.debian.org/Init#Changing_the_init_system_-_at_installation_time)
Once the above base-install has completed, update and install aptitude
- apt update && apt upgrade -y
Next install aptitude and clear the "Install recommended packages" option
Next install whatever you need
- wiki.debian.org/xyz ; xyz == KDE, xfce, LXQt .... will list
the contents of the metapackages used by the installer
The result is a fast and clean system without Recommends-horror.
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Version: 11
Rating: 3
Date: 2023-05-24
Votes: 3
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There is no updates are ready indicator, its a big issue and a security concern.
Why can't the Debian maintainers figure out how to install a visible update manager. How will I know when important security updates are ready to install? We should not have to use a terminal to update the system or to check for updates.
Without non-free drivers for most of us and if non-free drivers are installed then we have a non secure O.S. in this way, and microcode is the most concerned among others ..
the bad thing is the old software; the preference for LTS and ESR software means you could easily fall of the progress wagon, Firefox being the main offender. Firefox ESR is not accepted by many websites, such as banks and government agencies or H&R block because it is not up to date like the real Firefox.
They don't even know how to design a proper login window, it says enter your password when you really need to enter your user name first.
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Version: 11
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-23
Votes: 0
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Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....Debian is just great. Everything you need nothing you don't want. I've been using different distros for 20 years and this is the one to rule them all. Stay here awhile....
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-23
Votes: 19
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I am new to the Linux world. About 3-4 months ago I decided to finally switch to open source software (although I have been using Android with pleasure for more than 10 years). Started testing various distributions in live mode and through a full installation. I had to mess with Debian 11 because the video card + other little things did not work normally on the 5.10 kernel. I decided to look further: Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Zorin, elementary, Vanilla and others. Each had its own advantages and disadvantages. After the release of Debian 12, RC decided to give it a try. This is class! Beautiful, stable, fast with kernel 6.1, my hardware works great. A separate joy was the addition of non-free software to the current version. The only thing that slightly spoils the impression is the abundance of rubbish in such an important distribution. No, do you seriously think that many people need all sorts of games and other pre-installed software? It took some time to clean up. Thanks community! I recommend!
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-16
Votes: 37
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Just installed the Debian 12 release candidate RC2 on a Dell laptop with 11th generation Intel chip. It all works perfectly, 'out of the box'. The new installer found wifi drivers first thing and with newer kernel now the sound works on that machine. It did not with Debian 11. With the non-free firmware installed automatically all that was left was to adjust fonts and get Plymouth on the spinner splash screen. After localepurge it only took 5G on the SSD. I am way happy. Have tried most of the bigger distros. This will be my 8th year on Debian and the legendary stability is still there. Much appreciation for your amazing work!
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Version: 11
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-14
Votes: 18
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The Debian Linux distribution is an opulent and sophisticated operating system that proffers a gamut of advanced features, notably a preeminent package management system that enables facile installation, configuration, and maintenance of software packages. The distribution exhibits an impeccable and methodical approach to software development, with a surfeit of stringent quality control procedures in place to ensure the utmost reliability and stability of the software packages it provides.
One of the distinguishing hallmarks of the Debian distribution is its superlative scalability and customizability, which allows for the creation of bespoke, tailored operating systems for diverse use cases and computing environments. The system also boasts a prodigious library of software packages, encompassing an expansive array of software tools and applications to meet the needs of even the most exacting users.
Furthermore, the Debian distribution boasts a robust and active community of developers and users, whose dedication and assiduousness have contributed significantly to the ongoing success and evolution of the distribution. In sum, the Debian Linux distribution is an eminently sophisticated and versatile operating system that represents the apotheosis of open-source software development.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-11
Votes: 16
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I installed Debian 12 recently, on Intel platform, Thinkpad, with Cinnamon Desktop. After the usual additional work, and fine tuning, it is running very well. Added a few packages: thermald; auto-cpufreq; tp-smapi-dkms; acpi-call-dkms; the VLC player; the Smplayer; and Bitstream Vera fonts, and Balena-Etcher. Then, the Orchis-theme and Reversal icon-theme.
The font rendering is great and the themes look fantastic. I use XFS file system on /; Ext4 on /home and Ext4 on
/boot. The stability seems very good. No errors, no problems. These are the pros. I have been trying to find some
cons, but without any success. The new Debian 12 wallpapers have fresh look and nice colours.
I always like the Debian installer, it is endlessly flexible and reliable; both the text installer and the GUI-installer.
It took me a few minutes, some years ago, to find out how to use it, that you have to confirm each step and then
go back to finish the next step in the preparation process, and finally confirm the installation. The user has absolute
control over the installation process. Lets take an example: partition sda5. To format or keep? Mount point?
Label? Special parameters? The setup of partition sda5 is done. Then confirm and go back to the next partition.
All this works very well in Debian. I have never had a single problem, in last 15 years.
If no other operating systems are already on the disk, the user can of course select the "automatic route".
The first step is always to read the instructions, the documents. As a general rule: the more you know, the better
prepared you are. And, if any data is already on a hard drive, always take a backup first. Better safe than sorry.
Debian12: 10/10. Thank you.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-11
Votes: 4
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I just installed Debian 12.
It works with no issues. It is very stable and runs so smooth.
i installed it on a Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen2a and everything works out of the box.
I use the Gnome desktop and it is very elegant and snappy. It take a little bit to get used to it, but once you start learning it, you will find it one of the most useable desktop environments available.
Debian provides a stable and performant operating system that just keeps on working and does not get in your way.
I can't think of any cons regarding it. Starting with the installer and up to the final user experience, Debian is one of the most usable and efficient operating system around.
I used to distro hop for a very long time, but I think that I just found the distro to settle with: Debian.
Keep up the good work Debian developers and maintainers.
Cheers.
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Version: 11
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-05-06
Votes: 1
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I use the stable version with Mate DE as my daily driver.
PROS
-easy to install
-very stable
-works out of the box on 11 year old ACER and DELL
CONS
-fcitx, xterm-thai, fonts-thaii are to much and should not be installed by default
-some packages are very old ( Debian 12 should correct this )
Spirallinux is a good derivative with no fcitx and that is a very little bit easier.
MX is another good derivative that must be considered.
Thanks for this good OS.and be sure i look forward to the Debian 12.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-05
Votes: 12
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I started to use Debian when I was playing around with a Raspberry Pi.
The Raspberry OS is based on Debian. Once I got to know the OS, I decided to install Debian on one of my Laptops. Now, after almost one year, I use Debian on all of my systems and I must say that I really enjoy it.
I am a regular user, do lots of office work, using the browser for online searching, but with no specific needs.
I am a school teacher and thus I don't need some specific software. Everything I need or want I can find inside the Debian's repositories. Also, I use flatpaks for most up to date desktop software on a rock solid Debian base.
My students always ask me what operating system I am using and I always proudly say that I use DEBIAN!
Some of them decided to try it for themselves and found it very comforting and pleasant to use.
My main desktop environment is GNOME, because it is stable, efficient and offers the necessary tools I need for my job.
Pros:
- the main pro in may opinion is that Debian can be used on any kind of hardware, everywhere
- it is very stable, with tested packages
Cons:
- documentation is not as good as Red Hat documentation
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-05-04
Votes: 13
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I absolutely love Debian.
I consider it one of the most stable and sane operating system.
The installer is complete and complex, giving you control over the entire process, making you aware of what is happening every step of the way.
During installation you can choose the desktop environment of your choice, which is great.
I mostly use the GNOME version, but I also sometimes try KDE or Xfce.
In GNOME, for example, I find Debian to offer some of the most comprehensive default applications.
You get Gnome Tweaks and Extensions already installed.
No matter which DE you use, Debian is very stable and gets out of your way, letting you do your work.
I use Debian both on my working laptops and on my local servers (small form factor PCs). I also run Debian in the Cloud for mission critical stuff. It never let me down, not once.
Pros:
- very stable
- offers sane defaults
- lots of packages to choose from
- did I say it is table? :)))
- you can use it everywhere: laptop, desktop, IoT, server, embedded... you name it
- inclusion of non-free firmware in the installer is a great achievement
Cons:
- some packages may become too old as time goes by and they are not updated, but this is not a turn-off for me
- their marketing is just awful...
- the website is like a maze... very hard to find anything...
I would advice anyone wanting to use Linux and experience a very stable and comfortable ride to use Debian.
I find it better than Ubuntu, Fedora or openSUSE for anyone wanting to learn and use Linux as their daily driver.
Keep up the good work Debian developers!
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Version: 10
Rating: 7
Date: 2023-04-15
Votes: 0
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Boring but stable.
Worked well with a Lenovo Thinkpad T410i. I had to use version 10 Buster because the newer kernels dropped support for the Nvidia 340 driver that is required for the NVS 3100M graphics chip.
I remember the WiFi was a bit tricky to get to work in the install.
Because Debian uses ash as it system shell and awk, it's not suitable for building Linux from scratch.
If it didn't use systemd, it would probably be the perfect Linux distro.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-14
Votes: 20
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Debian is the King!
I love the new Debian 12. It is rock solid and the inclusion of non-free firmware in the installation media makes everything so easy. I can use this distribution right after installation.
The first thing to do is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the non-free and contrib repositories, comment the USB installation disk line and everything is just wonderful. An update and you can use the most stable distribution in the world.
I recommend it for both Desktop/workstation and Server, as I found it to be the jack of all trades when it comes to Linux distributions. Give it a try and I am sure you will not regret it.
Debian is just great.
Keep up the good work.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-13
Votes: 2
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I have installed Debian 12 RC1 just to see how it is after many years of using Fedora.
It is light years away from my last try with Debian on desktop, which was Debian 10.
In Debian 12, everything just works as expected - except for my laptop's touchpad during installation. But other then that, everything is working as expected.
Debian 12 is a true contender for my next daily Linux distribution, as I plan on ditching Fedora for a more "stable" distro.
Nevertheless, I am using Debian 11 on my VPS and local servers and it proved to be super reliable and stable. It is time for me to go all Debian on every system I own.
Keep up the good work, Debian developers.
Cheers.
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Version: 11
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-12
Votes: 2
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After switching to Linux, I used Ubuntu, Open Suse.
Open Suse: after each reboot, at low Internet speed, the repository was updated for a very long time.
So long that I often could not wait for the end, and if you do not update the repositories, then you can not install a single application.
Ubuntu: I have 3 computers with an Intel D525 processor that won't run the Ubuntu installer.
Gnome: very heavy and absolutely no desktop settings.
Xubuntu: will also not work on machines with a D525 processor.
Debian XFCE4: Works seamlessly on any hardware!
The context menu (not available in any distribution) is easy to set up.
Debian with the XFCE4 desktop turned out to be the most user-friendly distribution.
Debian is the most reliable operating system!
A huge THANK YOU to the whole DEBIAN team!
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Version: 11
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-11
Votes: 3
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After switching to Linux, I used Ubuntu, Open Suse.
Open Suse: after each reboot, at low Internet speed, the repository was updated for a very long time.
So long that I often could not wait for the end, and if you do not update the repositories, then you can not install a single application.
Ubuntu: I have 3 computers with an Intel D525 processor that won't run the Ubuntu installer.
Gnome: very heavy and absolutely no desktop settings.
Xubuntu: will also not work on machines with a D525 processor.
Debian XFCE4: Works seamlessly on any hardware!
The context menu (not available in any distribution) is easy to set up.
Debian with the XFCE4 desktop turned out to be the most user-friendly distribution.
Debian is the most reliable operating system!
A huge THANK YOU to the whole DEBIAN team!
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Version: 11
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-04-06
Votes: 1
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Debian is an excellent operating system, because is solid, is stable, and it does what you tell it to do when it comes to the server space. Is a 10 out of 10.
However, in the desktop side of things, I've tried their network installer for XFCE and LightDM didn't work after installation. The fix was easy, just edit a config file and it should be running but... Why should I be doing that if all I want is a working desktop? Is a shame.
This might sound like anecdotal bias, but every single time I tried to use Debian as a main desktop driver, I had problems.
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Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-06
Votes: 48
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I am running the latest Debian 12 Bookworm Release Candidate 1 and it works just wonderful.
I use the KDE Plasma desktop on it and it is working flawlessly. The stability of Debian and the beauty of KDE Plasma.
The new Debian 12 has everything I need, even if they are not the latest in package versioning.
Software is stable and relatively up to date.
I mainly use Fedora KDE, openSUSE (with KDE) and Debian (with KDE) on my systems at home, with Debian (with KDE) at work. All my VPSes are running Debian Stable. At home, I tend to use the Debian machine more than the others. It offers all the sane configuration right from the beginning.
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Version: unstable
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-04-06
Votes: 4
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I have been using debian unstable for the past 6 months and love it. I had been distro hopping for a very long time prior to my decision to give unstable a try. I am using lvm and lvm snapshots so if an update breaks things, I can easily roll back. I used ubuntu for many years but tired of the lag between current code and what was included in the LTS release. I then tried several rolling release distros and found them all lacking. Needless to say I think I've found my rolling release distro. I really like debian and the apt package management system.
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Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-04-05
Votes: 0
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- The decision to exclude desktop icons came from gnome developers. Debian maintainers included a gnome shell extension for the desktop icons into the repository, that allows to get the folders and files back on the desktop. There is almost the same story for tray icons.
A couple of more thoughts.
- Starting from Bullseye NVIDIA Prime has better integration, allowing to choose between display adapters with a right mouse click. Great!
- However I cannot make HDMI and WiFi work on a brand new HP ProBook 470 G9. WiFi driver should be included into kernel 6.2, so waiting for backports, these should come perhaps in the autumn of 2023. No clue about HDMI, though.
Why to put 9 points? Because this is still an operating system one can trust.
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Latest Reviews
Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-24
Votes: 14
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Since Debian 12 was available for download it has been running smoothly. No problems so far, on Intel
platform. Wayland is also getting better and better and works well under KDE Plasma.
Debian is brilliant operating system:
1) it is perfectly stable;
2) it is endlessly flexible and customizable;
3) offers a wide range of software;
4) boots in 3 seconds (SSD disk);
5) uses little RAM and CPU, even under KDE;
6) offers many ways to install;
7) easy to add new repositories;
8) if some hardware is not supported out of the box, it is generally very easy
to add that same support, install drivers etc.
9) proxy servers and firewalls run very well under Debian;
10) all f-keys work out of the box, audio and brightness control;
11) font rendering is great (hinting=none makes it perfect);
12) very easy to install commercial software, like Bitdefender Endpoint Protection, Master pdf Editor, and
many more;
13) security tests give good result
Debian is probably the best operating system I have ever used and have tried most of them, Windows,
various UNIX systems, and many Linux systems.
Keep up the good work Debian. Thanks.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-22
Votes: 12
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Initially I was very reticent to use it. It was hard to set up and configure, especially to my liking and needs, so I looked elsewhere. I hopped onto so many distros, from Debian kids and grandkids to OpenSUSE to Manjaro to Arch to Fedora, and then I settled. But it still bothered me. Fedora was good, but was not giving me the satisfaction I wanted.
Next I tried Pop! OS and NixOS, and I loved them both. But I wasn't a happy camper yet.
Finally I decided to take the time tunnel, draw inspiration from my original mentors, download the ISO, and make it work. I installed it countless times on a VM, every time trying something new: different disk layouts; different FS formats; encryption or no encryption, and what partitions to encrypt; different DEs; no DEs. You name it, I tried it.
And kept the lessons.
So here I am, running Debian Bookworm with Gnome on an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift on my old faithful desktop. I preferred this configuration because my desktop also serves as a home server, and rebooting it after most updates, especially when they come too frequently, is an annoyance. It's rock solid and everything works. Couldn't be happier.
On my laptop, it's a different story. I opted for Debian Testing. Although updates come quite often, a full reboot isn't always required. The only problem is that, whenever it comes out of hibernation, I need to enter three passwords: one to unlock the root partition, one to unlock swap, and one to restore my session. If you think of it, it's a very small price to pay when you take security into consideration. Likewise, I have an encrypted BTRFS partition with Timeshift, but also an encrypted swap partition. It's also rock solid and everything works.
Oh, I didn't mention the DE on the laptop… I have Gnome, i3, Sway, Qtile, herbstluftwm, and dwm.
As I look back (and sideways), I don't regret getting in earlier. I prefer to think that all the experience I got with the past distros helped prepare and shape me for this final upgrade.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-21
Votes: 10
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After some times on rpm distros (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, mostly), I needed some stable (not abruptly changing) distro.
Debian was an obvious choice, and with version 12 it's some smooth desktop experience: it works like a charm; it finds my printer; it's actually customizable; it finds my printer: it can be extremely minimal or it can be as "bloated" as you wish; it finds my printer; it's snappy and light on my medium-low hardware.
Oh, and it finds my printer.
The only thing I'm missing from Tumbleweed is it's wonderful font rendering.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 3
Date: 2023-09-17
Votes: 0
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The full dvd installer was horrible. Kept on not detecting my system. Had to keep going back to do it over.
I tried the live version and installed it from there a lot easier.
It was ok until my wifi router blocked a malicious outgoing attempt to somewhere in France. Apparently the iptables firewall is set to allow everything in and out. So what's the point??
That was enough for me to remove it-no thanks
The kde desktop worked great though.
The installer set my same password for user and root although I had left that box unchecked. I was never asked to create a root user.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 2
Date: 2023-09-16
Votes: 0
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Bookworm? Rather like crap!
WORST DEBIAN EVER!
Disclaimer: Okay, I have to admit that I use KDE and Wayland ;) but this horror show is anything but debian.
Some "highlights":
++ seems pretty energy efficient (35W idle instead of 40+)
+ install was nice and quick
+ better hardware accleration (well, blame the kernel)
-- ksysguard is gone and the replacement is horrible (even if you try to tune it or download presests)
-- hhd timeout 3hrs per gonme disks but it is NOT respected by OS
-- tried X11 instead but now my keyboard layout was stuck on US
-- many inconsistencies like accept neither pw (root, user)
-- sound screws up, especially with other apps (even nzbget), trying to rectify it I had a memory full instead ( at 64GB!)... reboot!
-- discovery is no good for installing anything (does not even show all packages, eg 7zip)
-- discovery does not show software available in apt-get, what is that good for anyway?
- no proper way to include LUKS partitions at installer
- Apper does not work any more as does not ask for pw
- Gwenview does not scale properly in Wayland or broken or both
- apps dont remember positions
- still the same stupid presets in KDE (not dark, no doubleclick, losing focus etc)
- smallest cursor on HiDPI like 4k
- mpv starts copying from SMB instead of playing (and so will SMPlayer)
- task switcher reduced to one preset called breeze (and no booklet, not anything else)
- restore session is preset but does not work for most apps
- dolphin still has no filter bar by default
- hstr not installed by default (not anymore)
- KDE layout has mostly become more wasteful and ugly (like windows10, title bar etc)
- still the most shitty player as default: dragon player instead of mpv or vlc
And last, but not least:
~ crappy baloo not on by default (well, depends on what you think of it, anyway)
Hoped for trying it out to see any improvements but gee! the multitude of scrwups in this release leaves me longing for my imperfect but finely tuned Bullseye.
Summary: FRANKENDEBIAN! If you are on a previous version, skip this version or at least wait half a year! I'd go back but I shot my boot partition (had backed up all the data but this one), especially if you are into KDE. Too much work to work around the flaws :( If there is no need to switch, then wait for D13. WIth that many fails, one star for trying and one for some minor improvements.
PS: Debian, how could let this one pass? I know many things are KDE but still how could you?
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-13
Votes: 53
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With Debian 12, other derivatives distro looks surplus
It is responsive with my 12 years old hardware, and It can handle all my daily works and gaming. Also one of the advantage is it has no bloatware and it is a real light-weight distro. Needless to say, it is ultra stable.
I will keep using it and perhaps I have no need to upgrade to Windows 11, as my computer is still in good shape. I can see hope out of the bond from Microsoft.
Hope Debian Team can keep up the good work and wish them success
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-12
Votes: 8
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Debian12 is the new Ubuntu. You can set up your environment in Debian very easily and Nvidia drivers can be installed with single line command. I tried many Distro but settled on Debian. Debian just works. Its like fill it, shut it, forget it.
Fedora is an abomination , I couldn't even get nvidia installed.
Arch is for masochist. I tried installing Virt manager in arch and it took me many arch wiki articles and youtube videos to do it meanwhile in Debian I clicked the install button from synaptic store and it just did the rest.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-12
Votes: 14
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My experience with Debian 12 has been extremely positive so far. This operating system combines stability, performance, customization, and a vast software ecosystem in a way that caters to all my needs. If you're looking for a reliable and highly enjoyable Linux experience, Debian 12 is definitely an excellent choice. I look forward to seeing how Debian will continue to evolve and improve in the future.
One of the first things I noticed was the solid performance of Debian 12. Even on older hardware, the operating system is fast and responsive. Boot times are quick, applications open without noticeable delays, and the overall user experience is smooth and efficient.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-11
Votes: 7
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The story goes like this. I have a 2006 macpro and the performance of the user interface of this granny is really smooth. I also have a 2011 PC with triple the specs and the linux graphical environments lag like hell. 3 weeks ago I decided to try Debian 12 Gnome. The revelation was liberating! The most heavy of the linux desktop environments (Gnome) now had the smoothest performance of all. Even when the memory usage was hitting the limits, the motion effects and overall responsiveness reminded me of the comfort and responsiveness of macosx BigSur. So I started cleaning the language bloatware (for which I hated this distro) with great pleasure. I installed extreme packages like wine-staging, changed the sound system to Pipewire and suddenly I got a PC with a user interface worthy of commercial ones. I use it for pro-audio (mixing/mastering) with Reaper, front and backend development (javaEE-springboot etc), social authoring. Fortunately, since Debian is a point release, I can keep this wonderful system supported for 5 years! I want to thank the Debian developers for their wonderful work and the ultimate tool they have generously given us.
-->Installed on 2011 AMD 8core, ATI Radeon Graphics Card, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-09-06
Votes: 25
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best distribuition of linux!!
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-29
Votes: 50
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Debian right now is as friendly as it has ever been in my opinion
I tried on my laptop and everything was reconized OOTB, also I only needed to install flatpak and uninstall the insane amount of games Debian ships with GNOME, replace some apps with their flatpak equivalents and everything was ready to go
First, Debian stable is to be honest boringly stable (which is good) and Second, the battery life is amazing on my laptop (10th gen Intel, with TLP installed helped even more)
This release is a huge upgrade compared to 11 with the ugly GNOME 3.38 and even more so that non-free firmware comes pre-installed, very fast, smooth and not too resource hungry at all
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Project: Debian
Version: testing
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-29
Votes: 23
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I've been using Debian Testing for years and so far everything is working as expected. Only the RTL8821CE wireless card doesn't work out of the box. However, user tomaspinho's contribution on GitHub successfully solves the problem. In general the system runs fast and stable.
Configuration of my humble notebook:
OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid x86_64
Host: VivoBook 15_ASUS Laptop X540UAR 1.0
DE: MATE 1.26.1
CPU: Intel i3-7020U (4) @ 2.300GHz
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 620
I just have to thank the Debian community for the excellent work.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 5
Date: 2023-08-28
Votes: 3
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Due to favorable reviews I decided to bite the bullet and fully install Debian 12 on my Mint 20.3 secondary desktop. Once I found the ISO on their 90's looking website, I burned it to a USB and started the installation process. I was immediately presented with a installation display that was not centered in the monitor, but instead was pushed so far to the right that the 'Continue' button at the bottom right only showed up as a 'Con' button. I went ahead with the installation anyway, was presented with a few more options than I was used to with Mint, set up both my root password and user password as requested, and was finally, after what seemed like a time consuming process, told to reboot into my brand new Linux desktop.
It rebooted very quickly into my chosen Cinnamon DE, and it was beautiful. I set about checking menu items to see what was there, set the date and time display to my liking, configured Firefox the way I wanted it, and tweaked a few other minor things. I then opened the terminal and and entered the command to update/upgrade. Bzzzzttt, it wouldn't allow me to do that even after trying both passwords. I got an error saying I didn't belong to the sudoers list. I don't recall ever seeing that error on any other full linux distro I've done, so I searched the net for a solution. Apparently I was to open a configuration file and add myself to the sudoers list. Now I'm certainly able to do that, but I shouldn't have to.
It was at that point that I realized if the distro didn't recognize my monitor resolution, and I had to google a solution to a significant issue I'd never encountered before in the first few minutes of a full installation, then maybe that installation isn't for me. I'm nearly 70, and shouldn't have to tinker with configuration files to be able to update my Linux desktop.
I then burned Mint 21.2 to another USB and proceeded with a full install that was error free, very fast, and didn't require tweaks to configuration files to get an update to work from the terminal. I likely would have given Debian 12 a much higher rating had it worked smoothly out of the box. It sure looked nice.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-24
Votes: 11
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Once you get past the network install you find a OS that is very good but also rather typical in terms of feeling that if I installed Fedora I could basically get the same experience. Yes, Gnome is perfectly fine, I actually find it refreshing coming from using Mac's and Windows 10. Not saying its better just different and not in a bad way. I get many of the same typical error logs I get in almost any Linux install. I have come to understand that most PC come with Windows and that is all the hardware makers bother to test. If it works in Windows its good to go. My issues come with the dreaded wireless card from Realtek this time a rather no name branded chip soldered into the Mini PC I bought from Geekom. Sadly, Geekom claimed it had a Intel wireless chip but apparently they used whatever was cheapest that manufacturing sequence. At least there is a driver that mostly works in 5Ghz band although not very fast or reliably. I have a LAN drop so plan to hook up to that but again another Reaktek chip for LAN as well. The mini PC will be mostly a last resort sort of PC in my house, something to just do basic tasks with. Windows 11 was way to heavy for this mini PC with a Celeron CPU albeit a 4 core model. The best thing I could do performance wise was to wipe Windows 11 and try some Linux distributions.
Like I said, Debian isn't really special its just one of the more stable desktop Linux out there. I don't like where Ubuntu is going, I also felt Mint was too unstable and don't care to dabble in Arch Linux at all.
It really comes down for me to Fedora or Debian and I chose Debian.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-24
Votes: 21
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install on old pc
CM: asrock z77e-itx
CPU: I5 3570K, 16gb ram
GPU: GTX 1660 S with 6GB of memory
IibreOffice in French, recognizes my printer (Lexmark_CS417dn)
Graphics driver they install very easily : )
is after installing Steam, I run 2 games without problem! (Valheim, Elite Dangerous)
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-16
Votes: 79
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I am not a programmer, just a long-time Linux-user who exclusively uses Linux-desktops and laptops for work (in humanities at a University) and at home. Since the 1990s, I tried out four different distro's and three desktops. I started with SuSE (KDE 3), then (due to the KDE 4-catastrophy) migrated to Ubuntu (Gnome), and then (due to toe Ubuntu'x experiment with Unity) to Debian (LxDE). When I got a new Lenovo T14 (AMD) Laptop, I was forced to switch to Fedora (LxDE) for some time, for Debian did not yet support the new hardware, but I was never able to get rid of a couple of problems. Hence I just switched back to Debian (again LxDE) and it works like a charm, just as I expected given my earlier experiences.
It is the most reliable and stable of the distro's I have used. It does not install unnecessary stuff and does not eat up unnecessary resources. It is also quite flexible and you find a lot of documentation online. Life-usb's allow you to try out whether everything works as it should, and if it does, installation from within the life-system is quite easy (encryption included), as is the regular installation procedure.
It is some time ago that I tried other desktops (since I am used to LxDE by now and it is easy to configure to introduce some sort of tiling-options, shortcuts etc), so I don't know how smooth they work. For me, however, Debian / LxDE / Kupfer (an old but fast and powerful launcher) and Recoll (for indexing full-text and desktop-search) is the perfect combination to get your work done and not be distracted by either bugs or glitzy features.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-11
Votes: 34
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There were three bugs so far. One was of Flatpak and, thus, not regarded to its base. The other one was of the Acer’s UEFI. Unrelated too. I’ve been using Debian 12 for months as a workstation and have zero to complain of it.
The non-free firmware upheaval created a netinstall easier than that of Windows. In the second case, the UI remains totally not user friendly. It is ironic that the acclaimed easiest operating system is unnecessarily harder to get to run.
Live ISOs, which are a lot simpler to do their job, still are harder to find at debian.org. This is the sole reason I can’t give it a 10. If this problem wasn’t present, it could be a splendid choice for a beginner distro.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-08-10
Votes: 5
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First thing that happened after installing Debian 12 was getting this annoying message over and over: N: Repository 'Debian bookworm' changed its 'firmware component' value from 'non-free' to 'non-free-firmware' and figured this might go away after a few weeks when they roll out a upgrade, never bothered with making a config file to turn it off, but I had to it after 3 weeks was way too annoying.
Then everything seemed to work just as Debian should for a week or two and then those hellish Raspi error message started, so took a look on Debian's forum to see what to do about them and there were a bunch of threads and everyone had a different solution, but ONLY one worked for me and that was to purge Raspi. Mind you that this is supposed to be Debian STABLE, why was the buggish Raspi even there in the first place? These two negative things, which some would consider minor, made me feel meh towards Debian, and I've always loved Debian. I had a better experience with the flawless Debian 11, also why in the world is 12 slower than 11?
And lastly.. Debian's website is still a nightmare!
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-08-09
Votes: 16
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Readers be forewarned that I am a Linux newb and that my review may not satisfy what you are looking for in one.
I have been using Linux for a couple of years now. I first started with Mint 20.1, I think. What a great experience that was. It breathed new life into my PC. There were some bumps along the road, but mostly, software breaking was my fault rather than the distro's.
Recently, I accidentally wiped out Windows 7 while distrohopping. (Luckily, the HDDs were accessible from the new distro, so I backed up my important files.) I then installed Windows 10. ... It broke within five hours. So I decided to totally start anew with a new Linux install over everything.
I tried a few distros, but none were polished enough for my liking. I tried going back to Mint, and installed 21.2 "Victoria". Everything was wrong. The stability, the cohesion was totally gone. Menus would break; I could not even shut down the computer! Senseless changes were forced onto the userbase. Worst of all, it lagged like nothing else. Not even Windows 10 lagged this much during its five-hour lifespan.
Distraught, I spent a while trying to figure out what distro to use. Eventually, I settled on Debian. I had heard that the new update made Debian a distro par excellence. So I took a dive, and voila! it has been an amazing experience so far.
Using the KDE desktop instead of Cinnamon or Gnome, I find that everything looks pretty and the workflow is great. UIs are mostly cohesive. And the system has not broken on me, or caused extreme lag for no reason. I have only experienced one bug so far--if that is what it is--: I cannot upgrade to LibreOffice 7.5 or whatever it is. The KDE LibreOffice integration software, which I am told not to uninstall, prevents me from fully uninstalling LibreOffice. But I can look past this.
Debian is now what Mint once was: a visually attractive, beginner-friendly, fast, and STABLE experience. I'm defecting!
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Project: Debian
Version: testing
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-05
Votes: 28
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I installed Debian 12 as soon as it came out with the declared bugs and migrating from Mint Vera. I wanted an environment that offered Wayland and Pipewire and decided that Gnome offered it with fewer bugs than KDE. Ubuntu was ruled out because of its Snaps policy, I can't run WebullDesktop on Manjaro or Arch, neither can Fedora, and RedHat's free software policy is becoming dubious. OpenSuse is difficult for me with Zipper and Yay at the same time. The truth is that Debian 12 worked like a custom glove for me, the bugs announced were not a big deal and the update to 12.1 was done without any pain. I finally decided that I wanted a more current Wayland dot and I wanted a more current Pipewire and I changed the repositories to Trixie testing minus the security update repository which I left in Debian 12. This is great...Very happy, I hope Trixie be as stable as Bookworm, that's a risk I take. Negative? It's just that the subvolumes for Timeshift are not created by default like they are in Linux Mint.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-08-01
Votes: 49
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We have used Debian or a spin off for about 19 years.
If your a Windows person it probably will be VERY confusing and a big jump to change to Linux.
I started with Root and Boot disks on 3.5" disks.
You would put the Boot disk in then the Root disk in.
It was terminal based only.
When package managers came in it was wonderful.
I could never get many apps to install.
I have told some one that I have root plus lots of info and I could not get a app to install!
No wonder there wasn't any malware on Linux.
I have tried many distros and have three favorites.
Debian, Fedora and Xubuntu.
I love the Linux distros because of their speed, security and configurability.
I dropped from Windows because of the malware, limited configurability.
When I first made the change it was very scary, it felt very foreign!
I was afraid of data corruption and many other things.
Funny, now when I use Windows it fells very foreign!
It also feels very cramped, restricted and controlled by others.
Debian is one of the fastest. Have had no problems with security.
I have one major grievance with Debian.
Why so many methods of installing it?
It seems three or four would be plenty.
Linux works with a great deal of hard ware.
You can not beat its security, speed or configurability.
You will have to learn stuff.
Comes with all kinds of languages to program in.
Perl, Python, C, and a favorite BASH.
Give Linux a try!!
Thanks to all that support Linux!
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-31
Votes: 34
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Installed Debian on 5 different partitions recently. Being using Debian for the past many years with great success. Version 12 is even better than the previous ones. The first thing you notice is the tremendous speed of start-up and shut-down. Debian 12 is lightning fast. Boot is hardly more than 3 seconds! I run all Debian systems on both XFS (for /) and Ext4 (/home; /boot).
I have been using XFS for approx. 15 years with great results. It always does well. The Debian installer is one of the very best available in the computer world. Offers a lot of options. Graphical interface, installing in shell (without mouse), "automatic" vs. "manual", a selection of file systems [could actually also have the option of a UFS2 file system], and "Expert mode". It offers many more options than generally need to be used.
This device has never failed in the many Debian installations I've done, over two decades. Started using Linux in the early 2000's and stuck with it ever since.
Debian 12 automatically installs both WiFi firmware and CPU microcode. You can hardly think of a more convenient operating system, faster, more stable and more flexible than Debian.
Works very well e.g. with KDE5 Plasma and Cinnamon. Have used both interfaces with great success.
However, there are a few things to consider.
Take a good look at font rendering, which is a simple matter. Consider installing "rkhunter" and "chkrootkit". Also on Thinkpad: tp_smapi, acpi-call-dkms,
Privoxy proxy server (forward proxy server) and Nftables (firewall, good information online and easy to configure).
It is also good idea to install Timeshift and take a system backup with it.
This allows the entire system to be restored from scratch, IF something goes wrong (has never happened to me).
How long can good get better?
Thank you. Best wishes.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 1
Date: 2023-07-29
Votes: 0
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It is unbelievable that Debian has 2 different graphical installers (plus the curses installer) that are very incapable of allowing to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks. So much hype around Debian and yet you can’t setup multiple BtrFS subvolumes on any of the terrible installers without “tricking” the installer in Expert Install mode which is very ridiculous (and tedious). Even worse, there is no documentation on how to set up multiple BtrFS subvolumes on different disks properly (Google, DuckDuckGo, Luxxle searches are useless).
Save yourselves the headaches and trouble and go to a different distro that has better support of BtrFS on the installer (ex. MX Linux).
Who knows, maybe in 10 (or more) years the developers of Debian might add some support for BtrFS subvolumes on its ancient installer (if it’s even possible)…
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-28
Votes: 39
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All my computers and laptops have Debian installed.
Debian is a stable operating system, even on older slow computers.
Debian is the end result of everyone who tries to work on other systems.
Debian is a measure of your professionalism and understanding of Linux.
Use the XFCE desktop, this will allow you to create a desktop for your needs.
In XFCE, you need to configure the context menu and the panel.
For better control over your computer, you need to add a network indicator and processor load to the panel
Install and run ufw.
Everything else is optional and nothing more.
Use debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install the latest changes during installation
Thanks to the Debian developers and the community.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 5
Date: 2023-07-24
Votes: 1
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Old time Debian user and admin. Some of the decisions in the past few years have not been user friendly. The latest with the apt-key fiasco has forced me away. Yes I understand 'why' it was deprecated. There is no shortage of search results for "why". There is however a total lack of "do this to fix it". There are plenty of examples including links to other sites and other projects or just "example.com" but this doesn't help when you are trying to locate the actual key the packages are signed with. Then when you finally locate them the shabby instruction found all over the internet doesn't resolve the issue. This really makes it look more like the repos were compromised rather than this being a "planned deprecation". Also... if you are going to deprecate something that could potentially break many systems in the wild. Should you not have another solution in place prior to the deprecation? Maybe we are waiting on systemd-key to take up the slack!? Debian... I have been with you for decades... this however above and beyond systemd... is the straw...
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-24
Votes: 0
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I started Linux in 2010 with Ubuntu.
Switched to Manjaro in 2014 so I would have reasonably recent versions of libreoffice that did not damage docx-files with pictures. Used it on 2 laptops and 2 media-centres (Kodi, NAs etc.) with the family.
Got a chromebook in 2016. Discovered I could do my work in Crostini in 2017/2018. Ran devian 9, 10 and 11 in my chromebook.
Got a Win-laptop from employer and discovered I could use wsl to do my work in linux, opted for debian because Win handles the install and low-level hardware access, so I did not need installer.
Discovered most apps now have appimages or make *.deb versions available (aside from tar-based like TOR-browser) so there was no need for "rolling" so I switched media-centres to debian.
2023: Now run debian on media-servers with and run linux 12 in WSL2 and Crostini and mixed chromeOS and W10/11 clients.
Debian 12 has been stable and reliable for me. With the kids mainly on ChromeOS and my work possible from most platforms (employer keeps sending emails ChromeOS may no longer access Employer's environment, but so far MS-Edge in linux allows sync-ing and I can use wsl2 apps ion one drive data. ).
I like Debian 12 a lot.
I only think Debian should make a simple fully encrypted install without needing to write to grub or other media available. At this moment the install is "experts only".
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-23
Votes: 0
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there are two things that I don't like which prevent me to give 10:
- Net installer takes so much time to download and install the software packages (about 7h to complete a Debian12 + MATE)
- Performances of my network connection are worse than Ubuntu, this makes me think that there is something in iwlwifi module very inefficient in default configuration
For the rest I like it, I am used to Ubuntu and now I can have an Ubuntu without all the commercial crappyness mounted by Canonical (snapd is evil)
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-22
Votes: 18
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Debian: pure and simple: customize to your heart's content.
PROS:
It's Debian, and many applications are available in .deb format.
CONS:
Calamares installer insists upon creating 2x RAM as swap. Use the netinstall or standard Debian Installer from boot instead.
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Use the netinstaller, and build your desired Debian from there. It's faster than the live installer.
Add useful repositories to customize further.
Debian allows you to build your own unique distro.
Use Linux Live Kit to achieve this.
Give something back, even if it's only a script.
Done.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-18
Votes: 24
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Debian 12 XFCE is running smoothly on my Thinkpad thus far. I opted for a clean install rather than upgrade from 11.7 because I had introduced some testing and unstable bits to 11.7. Everything in stable is serving me well though I have installed Firefox from unstable only because the ESR version gets stale too quickly for my taste. I like having the non-free repo by default. It's nice to have functional wifi and graphics from the start, though that never seemed too hard to resolve by obtaining the correct firmware bits. Debian takes a little fiddling as compared to some distros (Ubuntu-based distros, for example) but this creates an opportunity to learn something about what is actually happening. For those not inclined to fiddle with things from time to time, Debian might not be the right answer. For those who want a fairly straightforward and functional system without a lot of extra bells and whistles, I'd say give it a try.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-07-15
Votes: 10
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If I'm rating it out of ten, then I must say that version 12 has been very solid for me so far. The inclusion of the non-free-firmware repo by default is nice, and the upgrade went smoothly on my server. On my desktop however, the upgrade didn't go very smoothly. I'll chalk this up to issues with Debian 11 though, since the issues I had upgrading were issues left over from my previous Debian 11 install.
Debian 12 does work fine on my desktop when installed from scratch, however I've had issues for a while now with the "wait, menu, wait, menu" style installer rubs me the wrong way.
To me, Debian 12 feels like an extension of Debian 11, but with ease-of-use optimizations. Adding the non-free-firmware repo is very nice, especially for someone with an Intel Wireless card in their PC. When the official distro adds better support for stuff like this, it makes it much more usable, since solutions to problems don't have to be so hacky, which leads to less problems.
A heavy con of Debian in general, continued into 12 is the package manager. Apt is easy to use, so I have no issue with that, but my problem with Debian's handling of the package manager is its lack of good non-free support. Apps like VS Code, Docker, Tailscale, and Spotify (just to name a few) all have to separately be added to /etc/apt/sources.list.d, which makes them more annoying to keep up with, and they heavily slow down apt update. This could easily be fixed by including flatpak, although the Debian team doesn't seem to be too keen on this. Flatpak CAN be installed, but they make it more annoying than a distro like Fedora, or Arch. If Debian kept a better closed-source software repo, or better support than flatpak, I would find Debian much more useful as a desktop distro.
Of course, on a server, none of this is really much of a problem, but it's still annoying nonetheless.
Overall, even while not being too much different than Debian 11, I really think that Debian 12 is a step in the right direction, and makes me much more optimistic about Debian, and makes me feel much more likely to reconsider it as my main distro, although the poor closed source/flatpak support sours this.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 6
Date: 2023-07-14
Votes: 0
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With all the hype around Debian 12 I decided to distro hop to give it a try.
First installed DVD ISO via USB thumb drive. Picked internet repo, completed install, disconnected USB thumb drive, rebooted back to desktop, attempted to install from software store but it kept throwing errors trying to load from USB thumb drive. Why?
Reinstalling via net installer corrects previous issue but trying to install some common test softwares fail. sudo apt-get update fails so does su, apt-get update.
Not a fan of the default Gnome desktop environment either since it takes some getting used to.
At this point thinking about the saying about avoiding .0 releases so decided to give 11.7 a try. Hit another roadblock when it couldn't load WIFI drivers during install. Apparently, they're not included with 11.7 DVD ISO or net installer like with 12. After some digging found hidden 11.7 ISO with non-free drivers plus Cinnamon DE that successfully installs along with test software.
Final verdict is if you're interested in Debian stick with 11.7 but use ISO with non-free drivers if your device is fairly recent within a few years. Personally, going back to Linux Mint since it "just works" without jumping through hoops.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 1
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 0
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I've tested and it's the worst distro I've tried on my Pc (Intel Xeon 14 cores, 128Gb Ram, RTX 2070 Super, 256Gb SSD), moreover system frozen and stuck not reacting to anything after enabling option "adjust for TV" in Display settings, it can't connect to any repos for updates even by ethernet cable. In details:
1. The distribution of images is some of a mess, I've spent a 15 minutes trying to find a needed image on their website, it's horrible web design, you must go through 5 pages to get a final link for image file, with many confusing info in the way (at first I downloaded an edu version because on website they've stated "it's special version for Intel", but in reality it's just the education packet, nothing special for Intel procs, that package also failed to install as standalone non-server version, error on final steps if you don't tune it for school servers).
2. The installation process is kinda look simple but it always have some problems on the step with network adapters determination, which weirdly goes before everything, twice it wasn't able to detect ethernet cable adapter - not Intel, nor even Qualcomm, continued without network connect makes the problem on the step with app packages, it asks for "network mirror" to install updates right away, but it's not working no matter which servers I've chosen, it's breaking the whole install process.
3. Somehow finally installed system and Internet was detected, but I wasn't able to update anything, ticking all repos including non-free not worked=it showed some error message of cd/DVD image and next I've tried to tune the display and clicked "adjust to TV" (i use a 65 inch TV through HDMI as only main display) which changes maybe nothing except immediately broke the mouse cursor image into some visual artifacts (it moves but as bunch of pixel sprites, on standard nouveau driver,) -> after restarting system booted fully but completely frozen right away not reacting to mouse or keystrokes, kinda reacting like 1fps, mouse as bunch of sprites, I wasn't able to get into Display settings to remove TV option, maybe the 4K resolution of TV broken it (4K also break many Fedora distros, which incredibly slow on 3840x2160x60fps desktop). It's not usable for anything on my setup with TV, that's why lowest only 1 score, maybe using standard monitor it would work, but i don't need it that way. I deleted it.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 8
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Debian is installed on all computers and laptop.
Tried many desktops.
My opinion:
Gnome - developers have gone into a parallel world that does not intersect with users. Not for slow computers. If a miracle happens and gnome is installed, then during operation it will constantly stumble, fall, ask to close the application.
KDE is heavy, well, very heavy. Not for slow computers.
XFCE is our choice. The XFCE desktop has never let me down. Never fell. Works for years.
XFCE is the most stable, easy to set up and additionally allows you to quickly write your own context menu (on other desktops there is no context menu at all).
Make XFCE the default desktop.
Thanks to all Debian and XFCE developers.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 4
Date: 2023-07-13
Votes: 1
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I really want to like Debian, but in short.
1. The installer loads up corrupted. Graphically, like a jumbled mess of pixels. there is a workaround, but, BAH!
2. There is an issue with raspi-firmware (from memory) if you install it or use the live cds, which does, that will prevent you from upgrading when there is a new kernel, and there already is. there is a workaround, but BAH!
3. A lot of important, under the hood parts are just missing from the start. "gvfs-backends", user is not even in the sudo group, and the like. You can install them yourself, if you can even figure out what they are (all most of us would know is something is not working for some reason), but again, BAH!
I installed it about 3 times over three days (net install, livecd, legacy, UEFI) trying to get it all sorted out and did nothing but search for solutions to one problem after another, after another, after another, until BAH! Forget it!
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 8
Date: 2023-07-10
Votes: 0
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Works fine, and looks good. However, updating confronts us with a new kernel that is failing to configure. Each time you install something, you get the same error. But all works well and the original kernel stays in function. But it is something the devs should look at.
Nvidia install went as with Debian 10, so no suprise there, except this time I was recommended to install the correct driver instead of nvidia-drivers.
Evolution worked well.
Gnome works ok, but not as good as Rocky Linux. But Rocky is the best I ever used, honestly.
This does not mean Gnome works wrong on Debian, but Gnome needs time to really work like it should.
But honestly, I am happy with Debian 12 and the choice for the 6.1 kernel is a good decision.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-10
Votes: 41
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Version 12 surpassed the main objections people used to have about Debian: outdated packages and poor out-of-the-box hardware support. By incorporating non-free drivers on the default installation media, this issue was successfully addressed, and more people will have all hardware recognized and operational right after the installation process, just like what happens in other so-known as "well-polished" distributions, like Ubuntu and Mint. In my particular case, network cards demanded non-free drivers, and everything was installed automatically during the installation process. I only had to install manually the drivers for Nvidia video cards, but it just took some simple steps, as I followed the official docs page about this topic.
In general, the packages are not outdated as they used to be in the past Debian editions. Important packages like kernel, firmware, and desktop environments/applications are not so many versions behind other distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora. Since it focuses on being a very stable distribution, it's understandable that some time is required until packages are considered mature enough to be included in a release.
Although I've migrated from bleeding-edge Fedora 37/38 on my personal computers, I didn't see any substantial issues related to older packages. As mentioned before, at this moment, the difference between Debian and other bleeding-edge distributions is very small. Some minor problems can be managed by using Flatpaks or Docker containers.
Gnome 43.4 seems very polished and stable. The only drawback is the large amount of software installed by default installer, like many games, which would be better if it was left up to the user to install this kind of item manually later. I've spent at least ten minutes in Gnome Software to remove all the games that were installed by default. A minimal Gnome installation would be a better choice.
After migrating from Fedora 37/38, I'm satisfied with Debian 12 as a daily operational system for software development and office tools. Because I'm using Linux professionally on my main computers, I don't want to spend time fixing things that eventually will break on a system update. I used Arch Linux for three years, and it's a great Linux distro to learn in-depth about how Linux works. But I don't want to discover that my audio card or webcam stopped working due to a system upgrade when I'm about to start an online meeting. For this reason, I keep a distance from rolling-release distributions and appreciate more stable and tested systems. Due to the rising popularity of technologies like containers and flatpaks, the gap between stables and "unstables" distributions has considerably decreased. You can have a stable core and use newer packages only when they are really necessary.
Talking about servers, I'm migrating my dedicated servers and VPS from CentOS to Debian. The last RedHat decisions made me aware of the risks of using company-owned distributions. Since all the other viable options are maintained by companies, switching to Debian was a natural decision. Could someone point something as reliable and stable as Debian for the long run? A second choice could be FreeBSD, but many cloud providers don't provide this option.
Red Hat announced the changes in the way they distribute RHEL code just some days after the release of Debian 12. Was it just a coincidence? Or are there some people at Red Hat trying to suggest to the community that Debian is the right choice to replace RHEL-based systems?
We will never know the answer, but Debian surely can handle it well.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-07
Votes: 21
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Ubuntu was the OS which brought me to Linux world. I almost always stuck to debian based distros, therefore I didn't like the approach of Fedora updating every 6 month. Now with RedHat (or IBM twisting RedHat's arm) is going full on anti-open sourceness, and Ubuntu shoving SNAP on us, Debian 12 is what saved me from the corporate dictatorship. It is a huge upgrade over Debian 11, which was based on quite older version of GNOME. The auto inclusion of non-free firmware by default is a blessing for us normal end users, who just want to use our PC without having to dig through dirt to find the driver for the hardware. Although GNOME is 43.4, and not 44, the upgrade is not very much concerning, I can live with that.
Huge respect to the developers and creators of Debian who contribute their time and strength to make this distro. Although I'm not a developer myself or know how to technically, I'd like to contribute financially to them.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-04
Votes: 30
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Works like a charm, fast boot, 0 issues so far since the upgrade.
Using if for virtualization, home automation / administration, Python / Web Development and also connected to a NAS serving as a home media server.
Been loyal to Debian for my daily desktop driver and for my servers. never had an unplanned downtime using stable version since Jessie. Bookworm made it great using the latest packages, will make people migrated to it over bloated Ubuntu.
Really love it! Proud to be part of the community,
Great job team!
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-07-02
Votes: 29
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Debian is installed on all my 4 computers and laptop.
I kneel before the creator of Debian, eternal memory to him and a huge THANK YOU to the whole team who made Debian the most stable of all.
The old age of software is a myth, it's not true. I have compared many packages, they are much newer than Ubuntu packages.
I write programs in PyQt6, and this package is not available in other distributions.
Therefore, Dibian is the latest software.
My rating is 10 out of 10!
A huge THANK YOU to the entire DEBIAN team!
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 6
Date: 2023-06-30
Votes: 0
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No drastic changes overall...
However one let down is that the developers decided to automate non-free firmware and repos by default during the installation.
It woul be better if there was a step during the install that offered the user this option to be enabled instead - this would have been more in the spirit of Debian. Forcing of non-free repos and drivers during the install needs to be changed... Linux is about choice and not being force fed something by default. Yes you can turn this stuff off AFTER the installation, but by then you would have already installed non-free packages and so you will be doing un-necessary work in order to get rid of all of that stuff should this matter to you as a user. It almost feels like someone went for "easy" instead of the traditional Debian approach. This kinda sucks to be honest...
If this was some corporate product and developers were trying to make this more appealing and idiotproof for the consumer/customer I get it, but Debian is suppost to represent the opposite of this kind of approach.
...what's happening with Debian?
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 3
Date: 2023-06-29
Votes: 1
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To start off, I have previously written very positive reviews of Debian. Its therefore a shame I can't offer a positive endorsement of its latest release. It crashed on install, having finally managed to install it, it then crashed and locked up the system when running a system upgrade from konsole. It then crashed yet again installing certain software from the repository. All this in the space of about 40 minutes! Arrrgh!!!
Screen scaling was bad off the cuff and I had to go into display and sort that out, too. Certainly a more minor issue but after the problems I have just had, it left a bad taste.
I'll be frank, I think this release was premature. Its my view that further testing is needed to ensure stability and reasonable, if not perfect, optimization, for a range of users and equipment.
As a final note, the install laptop has run LMDE and Neptune Debian 11 very well and in the case of the former, ran it for 2 years, with barely an issue.
In closing still like Debian but will be sticking to previous releases, until this is hopefully sorted out.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-25
Votes: 8
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Just blown away by this release! Had a funny 5 minutes getting Protonvpn-cli to work, but got there in the end. All the software works flawlessly and is not epically outdated this time. So smooth, with addition non-free software available at the tick of a box. Very happy, and FREE!!! So thanks Mint LMDE and Manjiro/Arch and Antrix, this current offering surpasses them all. I think my distro hopping has come to an end finally, it's about time (although I got rather good at clean installs!) Many thanks to the Debian team _/\_
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-25
Votes: 65
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I have given a score of 10 because this time with version 12 Debian has for me at least nailed it. Everything works out of the box (on Workstation HP/Dell machines certified for Linux). The software that i use is not outdated (Firefox ESR maybe old but that's the one that i use anyway). All the software i need is there in the repos or is supported on Debian (Virtualbox hasn't made it yet to the repo but should soon) and i found no annoyances. And above all Debian is not run by a corporation - was free and will remain free - this is perhaps the most important factor for me. Took me a decade experience to understand that Stallman was right.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-24
Votes: 18
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Switched to linux in 2020. Have used arch, manjaro, xubuntu, puppy os, bodhi, fedora, cent os, etc. It was not too hard since I own 1 desktop and 6 laptops, plus a raspsberry pi. I've come to conclude that debian and puppy os are my favorites, and distros I plan to use for many years to come, perhaps even my whole life. Arch was my daily driver for over a year, and I've grown to despise it, I have retired it as my official "gaming and emulating old games and ONLY FOR GAMING distro", whilst debian is my daily driver for my many, many other computing needs. I tend to now recommend beginners skip ubuntu, and jump right to debian, of course, that is if they don't mind spending a couple hours with me helping them set it up on their PCs. If a beginner is going to install a distro all on their own and don't want to research online, ubuntu is still a decent choice, but I've heard every single friend who's tried ubuntu had it break eventually, including for me when I started out. I have never had a friend tell me their debian broke. Note I am also someone who does not care about the latest features, I really don't care if I am even behind by a couple years. If I need anything for my modern gaming needs, that is what my desktop PC with arch is for. I keep the two seperate for a reason.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 0
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Installed from Debian 12 KDE live without a hitch . Almost everything working flawlessly. The feeling of great stability and reliability is unmatched, and if that's important to you, then it's a big deal. One fly in the ointment is Zoom, that won't load properly in Bookworm, although it works fine in Bullseye. I love Debian, but also use MX Linux and Mint. Did a manual install with a boot/efi drive, a root partition, and /home. The fat 32 efi partition held the boot flag and grub was installed onto the correct drive. Very convenient having the firmware as part of the install.
Still helpful to go to /etc/apt/sources.list and add contrib and non-free to entries even though we now see a non-free firmware entry.
Enjoy
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 1
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What to write? In short - this is it! Linux at its best. Simple, extremely stable, good old-fashioned but modern at the same time - that's Debian. For a long time I have been distrohopping, and I used to skip Debian - it was stable, but quite outdated, especially in design, and there were often problems with hardware support. That's over - Debian 12 combines modernity, simplicity and stability at the same time. Ubuntu never again! It may have a beautiful design, but it is going the way of Windows - huge size, Snap packages, the user is no longer the first priority - orientation towards servers and IoT. The only advantage of Ubuntu is the unparalleled hardware support, which for many will weigh in. Debian 12's inclusion of non-free repositories in the installation reduces this problem quite a bit. It makes up for its shortcomings with the extreme number of software packages available in the repositories (over 100,000), rock solid stability, and a focus on user-centricity and usability! Plus, support for 32 bit systems (admittedly the last time, but tell me, which Linux still offers this in its major versions?) and free and open source software. What more could you ask for?
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 9
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 3
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The GOAT of linux.
The only I am not giving a 10/10 is the following: for programming getting up to date releases of programming languages can be a pain, as the ones included in standard repositories will lag behind a bit. There might also be a moderate learning curve for noobs. In regards to getting bleeding edge desktop applications, you should be using Flatpak anyways.
By far the best overall Linux distribution in my opinion.
If you want a more brain-dead solution however, I recommend Linux Mint for a general desktop computer, or Ubuntu for software development. They're less cohesive, slower and more resource-hungry, but they're more brain-dead easy for noobs.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 11
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Debian's installer is where it truly shines. Instead of relying on a generic setup, Debian allows for easy installation into a range of partition configurations. Skipping the installation of a desktop environment is a simple task, offering ultimate system control and customization to suit any user's preferences. The resulting operating system is minimalistic, to a comparable degree as Arch, but stable in comparison. Upgrades will be limited to security and bug fixes within the next year and a half. Furthermore, by installing Flatpak applications on top of a stable base, users can obtain regularly updated upstream apps.
Personally, I enjoyed installing a bare bones Gnome session and all of my preferred free and open-source software (FOSS) user applications for Gnome from Flatpak. This created a semi-rolling system where the core system assets have been rigorously tested for stability and safety while the apps I utilize for work and leisure remain up-to-date.
For those who have yet to explore Debian, this latest version serves as an excellent introduction.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-23
Votes: 10
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I've always wanted to use Debian as in the past I tried PopOS, which was OK, and Sparky which I liked (I didn't have much luck with Arch derivatives; Manjaro broke, as did Artix and Endeavour OS). However, I found Debian 11 too difficult to install on my laptop due to firmware issues. Debian 12 works and the install on the live image is very easy. I like how there is no bloatware on Debian. Debian is what an OS should be: simple, small and stable. I also like how Debian is a community rather than a company.
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Project: Debian
Version: 12
Rating: 10
Date: 2023-06-22
Votes: 6
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I am a veteran Linux user.
Up to Debian version 10, I have never used Debian, only Ubuntu and other Debian based distributions. Since version 10, I decided to use Debian mostly on my VPS instances, and slowly after that on my desktop/laptop and local servers.
I must say that version 12 is the best Debian I had the chance to use. Everything works flawlessly.
I am using Debian 12 with GNOME on my main laptop, and another with KDE on a desktop. Both are great, but I tend to like GNOME better, as it has no flow and stays out of your way. However, KDE does offer some great apps that you don't have in GNOME. Nevertheless, Debian as the underlying system is rock solid. I have already installed it on my VPS and local servers too, to replace the old version 11.
My advice is to try Debian 12 as your daily driver, and you will not regret. Chances are, you might start liking it so much that you will continue to use it over any other Linux distro out there.
Throughout the time, I have used openSUSE (extensively until they started doing an awful job with the distro), Ubuntu (until they messed up too), Fedora (which I still love) and now Debian (which I find the best of them all).
Thank you, Debian developers. Keep up the good work.
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