| DistroWatch Weekly
1 • Online again (by libernux on 2014-07-07 10:15:04 GMT from Netherlands) |
Good to have you back online.
Please continue this great achievement.
2 • Details please (by Leo on 2014-07-07 10:37:22 GMT from United States)
I'm going to guess your problem is that you use too many resources for a discount hosting company.
I currently use tigertech.net for hosting. For a discount hosting company they are very responsive and helpful. In fact they're more helpful than some full-price companies.
However, I suspect distrowatch has grown to the point that it needs a real hosting company. I unfortunately don't have a recommendation for that.
3 • Good to have you back, extremists! :P (by kneekoo on 2014-07-07 11:17:35 GMT from Romania)
There's also this host: distrowatch.gdsw.at
What's up with that? Is it some out-of-sync mirror or what? What can we consider safe for browsing DistroWatch? I mean safe enough not to fall into the hands of other extremists, of course. :))
4 • The true extremists (by Raphaël on 2014-07-07 11:42:16 GMT from Switzerland)
The true extremists are NSA and other surveillance agencies, as they do not respect human right, which includes the right to privacy.
5 • @4 (by Frank on 2014-07-07 12:39:57 GMT from Germany)
in their eyes you (that is the PERSON = LEGAL FICTION = STRAW MAN that represents you) are not even human so obv you have no human rights in the so called western "democracies"
they made companies of almost all of our countries and public authorities !
search for : freeman of the land movement, straw man, birth certificate, black's law dictionary, DUNS number of ALL "states" and public authorities , legalese , ... for more infos!
And NO it is not a conspiracy theory !
Sovereign human being in court :
... Case dismissed with cause and prejudice, NOTE THE JUDGE BOWING before he abandoned the court. ...
NOTE THE JUDGE BOWING before he abandoned the court
NOTE THE JUDGE BOWING before he abandoned the court
NOTE THE JUDGE BOWING before he abandoned the court
6 • Now for something completely different (by Huge Mess on 2014-07-07 13:25:20 GMT from Mexico)
I guess the distrowatchers would like to read something not related to the .com shutdown so... er... ehm... If I had to choose between LXLE or Lubuntu, which one should I choose and why? (Just kidding, my old PC is in love with LM13, LM17 acts a bit funny in ti so...)
7 • hosts (by Juancho on 2014-07-07 13:26:24 GMT from Argentina)
yeah my guess was also about exeeded traffic... anyway Hostcentric.com has been quite quick and collaborative the couple of times I had any issues.
It is US based though...
I would use an EU registrar and DNS, have the .org hosted there and maybe the .com hosted in the US to offer a lower latency to the bigger trafic source (IF it is the US)
Hope you sort it out soon.
8 • Welcome Back (by Mikko on 2014-07-07 14:20:23 GMT from Guernsey)
Glad to have found "my favourite" site once again. Well done to the team for all your work and and my thanks for all the information you publish on Distrowatch. Greatly valued.
9 • Distrowatch.com problem (by AnklefaceWrouhtlandmire on 2014-07-07 14:39:56 GMT from Ecuador)
Guys/gals, the problem isn't with Distrowatch's web host, which is why you are currently reading this page. The problem is that the domain name REGISTRAR for the distrowatch.com domain name is being a scumbag as most registrars are.
10 • Domain (by Ramsey Brenner on 2014-07-07 14:52:11 GMT from United States)
Sorry to hear about the domain name. We use name.com.. I've talked to them a few times, and they seem knowledgeable. I've also heard good things about NameCheap and Gandi (I've probably heard more good reviews about these two than name.com). All 3 opposed SOPA.
11 • WTF domain registrar, it's not the first week on a new month, you incompentent! (by RJA on 2014-07-07 15:01:56 GMT from United States)
The registrar is being a scum and possibly a lying scum, too!
12 • Domain (by Ed on 2014-07-07 15:34:53 GMT from United States)
I have used mydomain.com for years and never had any trouble. Still using them today.
13 • NSA Flags Tor & Tails as Extremists (by G. Savage on 2014-07-07 15:56:57 GMT from Canada)
I never felt compelled to try them... 'til now.
14 • Registrar (by Zsolt on 2014-07-07 16:06:04 GMT from Hungary)
Move to Gandi. They are primary supporters of various FLOSS and other good projects, organizations.
15 • market share (by meanpt on 2014-07-07 16:10:35 GMT from Portugal)
finally the NSA will be the right entity and maybe the most diligent one to provide us with an acurate estimate of the linux market share ... :) ham ... in the end, they will have to keep a register of all the linux users and installations :) ... but I'm not shure if they will include their own linux instalations and usage :)
16 • distrowatch outage (by frodopogo on 2014-07-07 17:07:35 GMT from United States)
"distrowatch.com " is still not working for me.
"distrowatch.org" is what I'm using to type this.
17 • Registrar (by Donald 'Schultz' Stewart on 2014-07-07 17:29:41 GMT from United Kingdom)
Mageia use Gandi and they seem to be very good, while I'm not in a position to give a recommendation from all of Mageia for Gandi, they do seem very reasonable and reliable.
18 • tor + tails (by anonymous on 2014-07-07 18:26:42 GMT from United States)
It's amazing the number of people that are willing to support the pedophiles, child pornographers, drug pushers, murderers, and trolls that use tor to attempt to remain anonymous.
19 • tor + tails (by wolf on 2014-07-07 18:53:58 GMT from Germany)
@18 Indeed the number of nitwits giving up privacy for no reason at all exceeds those 'supporters' you mention exponentially cause they are just like you uniformed spoiled little children that in my view wouldn't get access to computers or smartphones if I had something to say. But you can be a proud member of the majority and waste your data away.... let's see who gets the better deals with insurance companies or banks, maybe someday you want to get elected for some position... lets see how far you can control your Big Data like loans or political leanings. Be assured that even this statement might come up at the most inconvenient time in your life and bite you in your ass. But please don't start thinking now cause in your case I suppose thinking hurts.
20 • *.org (by Hagg Yatfleep Kolosheffenhyde on 2014-07-07 19:33:36 GMT from United States)
Thank goodness for dot org. ;)
21 • @18 (anonymous) (by kneekoo on 2014-07-07 19:37:35 GMT from Romania)
So you chose the name "anonymous" because you are some pedophile, child pornographer, drug pusher, murderer or troll?
22 • National Piracy Agency, etc (by :wq on 2014-07-07 19:46:08 GMT from United States)
"While it has been revealed before that _the NSA captures just about all Internet traffic_ for a short time, the Tagesschau story provides new details about how the NSA's XKEYSCORE program decides which traffic to keep indefinitely."
Which makes the NSA the biggest pirate of all.
@7 "I would use an EU registrar and DNS, have the .org hosted there and maybe the .com hosted in the US to offer a lower latency to the bigger trafic source (IF it is the US)"
While those numbers don't tell the whole story of where DistroWatch visitors are in the world, even if you make allowances for location obfuscation, the US should still likely be the largest national source of traffic.
@18 "It's amazing the number of people that are willing to support the pedophiles, child pornographers, drug pushers, murderers, and trolls that use tor to attempt to remain anonymous."
I hope that your "anonymous" comment was meant to be ironic. If not, I will say that no one I have encountered who supports Tor does so out of support of the aforementioned people. But all users of Tor shouldn't be lumped together. While obviously I don't know who does what with Tor (and I don't really care to), I imagine that users of Tor likely resemble a cross section of society / the world. "Pedophiles, child pornographers, drug pushers, murderers, and trolls" could use prepaid mobile phones to conduct their activities as well. Even binoculars could allow these kinds of people to prey from relatively anonymity. I'm not prepared to go on a wild-goose chase for a bogeyman around every corner. It just isn't an efficient use of resources. There are other ways to guard against bad people (and perhaps even prevent some of these people from taking wrong turns in life to start with) without treating everyone as guilty.
23 • @LXDE, Deepin, Ultimate Edition 4.2 lite, NSA (by NoHellsBelles on 2014-07-07 20:45:48 GMT from United States)
LXDE: Only a torrent download? What about sourceforge or copy.com for a free direct download? No UEFI support=deal breaker.
Deepin: IMHO looks nice, modern and light on resources 500MB at DE. Deepin has their "own" media apps+
Ultimate Edition 4.2 lite: This looks like A LOT of work into this release. A x86_64bit release...thus far. Fingers "crossed" for UEFI support.
NSA: Pffffftt. Demonic excuses, for them to spy on everyone. Don't be fooled...again.
24 • Distrowatch Web Problems (by Dummy Up on 2014-07-07 20:59:01 GMT from United States)
It continues to amaze me how a lot of the geeks have little to no idea how the internet actually works (as far as IPv4 goes, anyway). Distrowatch.COM (the TLD in this case being .com) seems to have some registration problems that are ultimately up to ICANN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN). And ICANN may or may not be under some sort of duress with an entity like the NSA. But that's hardly even an issue since understanding how DNS works is the real key.
That said, it really boils down to someone else claiming rights to the name "distrowatch.com" and/or their ability to accept traffic. And since that other entity seems to be some company calling itself doteasy (sorry, I have never heard of this company) the problem really seems to exist with them -- not the actual content provider. Fortunately, the TLD ".org" was not registered the same way or is at least owned by someone else, probably as a backup. Otherwise, you wouldn't likely be reading this (as the distrowatch.com URL is still not correctly resolving at the time I am writing this).
You can blame reprehensible organizations like the NSA (a necessary evil, if you ask me) or you can blame whoever is actually at fault. Because the problem I was told was that some group of people have been DDOSing (distributed denial of service) the URL distrowatch.com and apparently causing problems for this doteasy company's servers. So in response, doteasy (probably under durress from their backbone/ISP) has apparently redirected the distrowatch.com URL which would seem to be a pretty weenie solution since it really boils down to the way they have their servers set up and how they are tied into the internet.
I can almost hear the arguments where doteasy is claiming the website owner has done something wrong and/or upset a large number of users to be attracting this DDOS attack. Though it's my guess that doteasy was never really set up to accept the enormous amount of traffic and/or is likely trying to shake down the web site content provider for more money because they are also being shaken down. Personally, I blame the ISP's for this kind of mentality which has now been green-lighted by the FCC and it's criminal-minded head, Tom Wheeler (who seem to be on a crusade to kill net neutrality). One only needs to look at what Netflix did with Comcast to see this kind of shake down coming for even more popular web sites.
25 • LXLE Review (by Ronnie Whisler on 2014-07-07 21:24:43 GMT from United States)
Thanks for the positive review Jesse, just wanted to let you know that security updates are downloaded and installed automatically by default, checking for updates is only necessary for regular programs. Perhaps I should made that more clear on the site. Thanks again, much appreciated.
26 • DistroWatch.com domain name status (by Statler Waldorf on 2014-07-07 21:44:54 GMT from United States)
FWIW, I've used Pair Networks ( pair.com / pairnic.com ) for years and have been extremely happy with them. Can't remember ever experiencing any downtime.
27 • Light Lini; The Minnow Tor his Tail(s) (by Fossilizing Dinosaur on 2014-07-07 21:51:48 GMT from United States)
For a Huge Mess, consider how some websites make a token show of concern for user privacy while mandating genuflecting to The Mighty Goog for access to participation. That said, one alternative may be more Lite than another - minimal versus efficient.
The price of freedom for all includes freedom for someone ... else ... or, in truth, none.
28 • @18 tor + tails (by anonymous) (by zk1234 on 2014-07-07 21:55:55 GMT from Poland)
From Wikipedia : "As of 2012, 80% of the Tor Project's $2M annual budget comes from the United States government".
It looks that @18 wants to say that the United States government is a group of "pedophiles, child pornographers, drug pushers, murderers, and trolls that use tor to attempt to remain anonymous".
29 • LXDE and torrent (by Ben Myers on 2014-07-07 21:57:33 GMT from United States)
I complained at the LXDE web site re. its torrent-only download policy. I don't remember the response, but my complaint was not looked upon favorably. Torrent-only downloads are good way to scare away the less sophisticated and mostly unwashed potential users. I did do a torrent download and concluded that the desktop was not very slick.
30 • A better registrar (by David T on 2014-07-07 22:02:26 GMT from United Kingdom)
I used NameHog (namehog.net) for many years without any issue. I only moved from them when I stopped self-hosting to a hosted service as part of a new ISP contract. Very good support when needed, and all-round nice guys to deal with.
31 • (•ิ_•ิ)? (by :wq on 2014-07-07 22:08:25 GMT from United States)
@24 "You can blame reprehensible organizations like the NSA (a necessary evil, if you ask me) or you can blame whoever is actually at fault."
Who is blaming the NSA for the Doteasy mess?
32 • Domain Registrar (by dhinds on 2014-07-07 22:53:50 GMT from Mexico)
I've used mydomain.com with no problems to date.
33 • a better registrar (by Steve L on 2014-07-07 23:14:09 GMT from United States)
definitely recommend http://register4less.com/
34 • Domain Registrar (by Sebastien Gagnon on 2014-07-07 23:39:01 GMT from Canada)
10 years at Godaddy.com with seven domains names and I receive a very good service and zero problems !!
35 • LXLE (by (-o.O-) on 2014-07-08 00:18:55 GMT from United States)
"It is designed to be a drop-in and go OS, primarily for ageing computers."
"The latest release of LXLE supports one architecture, 64-bit x86..."
Ummm, what?? I mean absolutely no disrespect to the developers, but what niche is this lovely distro hoping to inhabit?
36 • LXLE torrent only downloads, UEFI (by Ronnie Whisler on 2014-07-08 00:26:54 GMT from United States)
Crunchbang does the same thing with torrent only downloads, LXLE is a big iso and torrents are faster than direct downloads, its also to support decentralization. Chances are if you can't manage a torrent download, you won't be successful using Linux. Installing lxle on UEFI machines can be done using elan. I'm not a supporter of uefi at all and feel its nothing more than an MS attempt of being paid for Linux installs. Hope this helps explain and solve a few questions posted here. Cheers
37 • 64bit only? (by Ronnie Whisler on 2014-07-08 00:33:04 GMT from United States)
I followed Bodhi Linux's lead and provided an updated version of 12.04.4 for 32bit machines to better support aging hardware. It's essentially all the updates of 14.04 wrap in 12.04.4 kernel/modules/drivers. All the software and features have been updated to be identical to the 14.04 release that is 64bit only. This is addressed in the release notes. The updated 12.04.4 is titled 12.04.4 Revisited, and is available for download. Particularly for 32bit machines, graphics cards and the like are better supported under that release. I try to make sure our roadmap is backed up by other well known distributions and their ideas and viewpoints. Hope this helps clear up the confusion.
38 • Don't panic, next time go here... (by cykodrone on 2014-07-08 01:22:34 GMT from Canada)
The latter is a bit slower to sync to the main site.
39 • Project for DW readers (by davnel on 2014-07-08 01:35:31 GMT from United States)
WE are now well into the XP fiasco. The world needs a distro of Linux that looks and acts like Windows so the XP folks can get off of it. What distro do you think works best? Enquiring minds want to know.
40 • Moving to a new domain registrar (by ladislav on 2014-07-08 01:44:05 GMT from Taiwan)
Many thanks to all who have taken the time to write in and suggest a new domain name registrar for distrowatch.com. As you can imagine there have been many suggestions, but the one that came up most frequently was gandi.net, a Paris-based registrar. Apparently, this company is also very Linux-friendly and has an excellent customer support. I've initiated the transfer already and hope there won't be any disruption to the service. As such, we can close this topic.
I'd like to dispel some of the speculations that appeared here and elsewhere - there was never a problem with the bandwidth or the hosting of the website. Our hosting company (EasySpeedy, based in Denmark) is a separate entity from the domain registrar (Doteasy, based in Canada). It was simply a matter of the domain registrar unilaterally imposing a charge on a service that I had never asked for, don't need and won't use. When I refused to pay, they simply disabled the domain, even though the issue had been sorted out (or so I thought) with a support technician. Of course, Doteasy doesn't do technical support on weekends, but they are quite happy to disable your website on a Saturday night! As they say, fool me once and... well, you know the rest.
One good thing that came up from all of this was all the great support and many worried posts on Linux/IT websites around the world - from major ones like ZDNet to smaller blogs in Canada, Italy, Spain, Hungary, Iran and other countries, everybody seemed worried. That's nice to know :-) So thanks everybody for support; rest assured that DistroWatch is not going anywhere (at least not intentionally).
41 • OpenBSD SimpleDE Desktop (by Gilbert Sanford on 2014-07-08 01:52:54 GMT from United States)
OpenBSD user for 7 years . . .OpenBSD is simply *ready* out of the box: cwm (or twm or fvwm,) xterm, vi (nvi,) lynx, sshd, smtpd, nginx, and so many more :) So I need only to add firefox (30.0, no less,) chrome (35.0.1916.155,) php (5.5.14,) and mysql-server (5.1.73,) and we're getting work done. Occasionally, I need the Gimp (2.8.4,) Libreoffice (188.8.131.52v0,) and epdfview.
One of the easiest systems to install and maintain. Did you notice the version numbers on the mainstream software? (with the exception of mysql-server, but, hey, mariadb 10.0.12 is in ports!) Benefits of running -current. Oh yes, I forgot, my desktop background looks great with `xsetroot -solid black` and, well, you just ought to see the green on black in xterm using the inconsolata font.
Don't suppose I'll be looking for some other desktop any time soon. As I've mentioned in the past, I hope you enjoy your computing system as much as I enjoy mine :) OpenBSD is definitely one of the great OS's in this modern age. Try it sometime.
"A computer never lies. Never trust a computer."
42 • @36 Ronnie Whisler (by Ass-umptionsFlyswithHoney on 2014-07-08 01:56:56 GMT from United States)
"Chances are if you can't manage a torrent download, you won't be successful using Linux."
Nice comment. What if is just a comfort level. Bittorrent, actually is simple to do.
"I'm not a supporter of uefi at all and feel its nothing more than an MS attempt of being paid for Linux installs."
Nice and friendly!!! So much for the new MS Windows converts.
43 • @40 This can't be good for Doteasy's reputation (by cykodrone on 2014-07-08 02:09:17 GMT from Canada)
I'm not surprised at the attempted 'extortion', seems to be a trend among 'services' these days (I too have been a 'victim'). This is bad press for your former registrar, half the world's nerds and IT people come here, lol, dumb move on their part.
44 • @36 UEFI (by Rev_Don on 2014-07-08 02:28:10 GMT from United States)
You said: "I'm not a supporter of uefi at all and feel its nothing more than an MS attempt of being paid for Linux installs."
I think you are confusing UEFI and Secure Boot. UEFI is a much needed update for the outdated BIOS and is long overdue.There is NO problem with UEFI period. Microsoft doesn't get anything from the use of UEFI.
The problem is with Secure Boot as that is the proprietary technology that Microsoft charges licenses for. My computers have UEFI and I have absolutely NO problem installing any Linux distro made in the last 5 or 6 years on them. They don't have Secure Boot though which is why there isn't a problem.
45 • Gandi +1 (by :wq on 2014-07-08 02:36:31 GMT from United States)
Unless I'm mistaken, in addition to Mageia.Org, Gandi SAS is the registrar of choice for the Linux Kernel Organization, the GNU Project, the FSF, the Debian Project, the FreeBSD project, the GNOME Project, and the LDP, amongst others, so I'm pretty sure the transition will be a painless one (at least on Gandi's end).
46 • The world needs a distro of Linux that looks and acts like Windows (by Carling on 2014-07-08 02:49:06 GMT from United States)
@ 39 davnel
Try Zorin 8 it will let you have Xp, W7 and Mac desktops at the click of the mouse button
47 • @23 LXDE torrent only (by KeepItReal on 2014-07-08 02:52:05 GMT from United States)
"What about sourceforge or copy.com for a free direct download?" Yep for real, and there are many other free hosting sites.
Ummmm....wait a minute. http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxle/ There is a Beta download. WTH??? I smell funk there.
48 • LXLE (by PhantomTramp on 2014-07-08 02:56:11 GMT from United States)
I think LXLE is also a fine distribution for both ageing users and new Linux computers.
49 • @29 LXDE torrent (by BeamInEye on 2014-07-08 02:57:05 GMT from United States)
"I complained at the LXDE web site re. its torrent-only download policy. I don't remember the response, but my complaint was not looked upon favorably. Torrent-only downloads are good way to scare away the less sophisticated and mostly unwashed potential users."
Say What? With a comment/attitude like that, why bother? Sounds like a lost soul and other issues.
50 • domain (by Josh Gunderson on 2014-07-08 03:28:19 GMT from United States)
I've used 1&1 for years for hosting and included domain name. Granted, I get approximately zero traffic as I just have it for tinkering. ;)
51 • domain registrar (by jeferson on 2014-07-08 03:36:31 GMT from United States)
Well, its not much, but if you are having problems try HOSTGATOR, it's the domain register for the site www.vivaolinux.com.br.
52 • TOR, TAILS and the NSA (by Peter Besenbruch on 2014-07-08 03:42:52 GMT from Netherlands)
I have subscribed to Linux Journal, and used TOR and Tails. I basically do all my browsing via TOR. If more people used TOR, the NSA would have more work to do, so would all the companies that love tracking people. Just remember, wherever Distrowatch says I am from is likely not true. ;)
53 • best distro for XP refugees (by frodopogo on 2014-07-08 03:47:39 GMT from United States)
I migrated from XP to Linux Mint some years ago.
I'm trying the different desktops for the latest version and am leaning towards the MATE desktop. I read a review of SOMETHING that said that the KDE desktop is best for ex-Windows users...
BUT.... I don't have much RAM.
Generally xfce and MATE desktops are better for older hardware and less RAM, KDE needs newer hardware and more RAM.
Linux Mint 17 comes in a KDE version.
One of the problems with Linux coming from Windows is that in some things you have a bewildering amount of choices... like which distro, and then sometimes you have four or more choices of "desktops" for a distro!!!
But then, when it comes to programs to run on your Linux distro, there may not be as many choices.
One answer is that the best Windows-refugee friendly distro to have is the one that your local friendly Linux guru has! If they use it themselves, it's going to be easier for them to help you through any problems you have.
Another answer: Whichever one works best on your computer.
Bugs are unpredictable as far as how they interact with a particular combination of computer hardware. A particular distro may work great for most people, but a few will have problems. Chances are another distro will work fine. This is one place where the variety of distros and desktops is actually an advantage.
Ubuntu itself is a very BAD choice for Windows refugees, since they seem to be into coming up with some hybrid of Mac and smartphone approaches.
BUT.... it's good to have an Ubuntu BASED distro (like Mint) because it benefits from many programmers who write their programs to be compatible with Ubuntu.
Windows users are used to having a LOT of software choices, so it makes sense to go with a distro that offers the biggest number of software choices.
54 • @36 & 44 (by 2BeeClear on 2014-07-08 04:32:10 GMT from United States)
Just to be clear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot
Interesting point: "Secure boot is supported by Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, and a number of Linux distributions including Fedora, OpenSuse, and Ubuntu."
FYI: For those who are interested http://planet.linuxdeepin.com/archives/7508
You can page, about half way down for Deepin Project's description of how they are handling: Deepin 2014 has perfectly supported BIOS and UEFI boot.
55 • @44 @42 @47 (by Ronnie Whisler on 2014-07-08 04:41:25 GMT from United States)
@44 I understand that technically UEFI and Secureboot are supposedly different however consider the following. Linus Torvalds quote“… the problem with EFI is that it actually superficially looks much better than the BIOS, but in practice it ends up being one of those things where it has few real advantages, and often just a lot of extra complexity because of the ‘new and improved’ interfaces that were largely defined by a committee.” Microsoft will be requiring that all Windows 8 devices have the hardened boot, which means a certificate-signed operating system is the only thing that will run on such a system. You can’t replace the UEFI system on the device with other, unencrypted, firmware. If all parts of the chain need to have a CA signature, then swapping out a machine’s signed EFI layer with, say, an unsigned BIOS or EFI would not work.
So to me, for the most part anyway, they are one in the same at least as far as supporting it is concerned since most PCs are still built with Windows in mind.
LXLE does install just fine on UEFI machines using elan so its very doable.
@42 There is nothing wrong or inherently bad about using torrents vs direct downloads, plenty of questionable software is served from a hosts, torrents received a bad rap because many choose to use it for piracy, that's not the fault of the protocol that's the fault of users in general. Crunchbang has been offering torrents only forever, and never, do I read a peep about their decision to do so.
@47 direct download from sourceforge are much more fit for ever changing beta testing, which is why sourceforge is used for direct downloads of the beta. I'm also just trying to support an idea of decentralization by using torrents.
I'm not going to explain myself anymore over something I do in my spare time and is offered for free along with support. I'm sorry if some of the decisions don't meet everyone's ideals, I thought perhaps a distro would be fun and interesting to do, however that is not turning out to be the case considering unwarranted backlashes over relatively superficial things. It's actually a fairly sad reality.
56 • @55 Ronnie Whisler (by River on 2014-07-08 07:29:37 GMT from United States)
LXLE seems to me, to be a fine distro, robust and yet lite on resources. IMO, I would not let the other people's comments, bother you. No worries, mate. Some, still have not learned why there are so many Linux distros/spins. Similar to software or tools, especially in Open Source, someone has an itch and makes their own and/or solves a problem. I am sure there are multitude of others that make a distribution, for their own personal use and share it with others or not.
I thank you kindly, for making your distro available to others. That is very generous of you. Much appreciated. :)
So you see, all these choices are good and if none meet your needs, you are free to make your own and share it how you like. It's all good. Take care.
57 • TOR & stuff (by M.Z. on 2014-07-08 08:00:33 GMT from United States)
That reminded my of the story I heard on NPR about the US military funding the TOR thing initially. Does anyone else find a certain delicious irony in the fact that the US government started the thing that is an apparent thorn in the side of the NSA? What do the different branches of an organization do when one hand considers the other to be a terror threat?
Give them Mint Cinnamon with the following theme installed:
There is also a Windows style menu applet:
Of course if just acting enough like windows for the average person to get along is all you want then any disto that targets ease of use & has either Cinnamon or KDE will fit perfectly. My mom asks a lot of annoying questions about using her computer because she doesn't feel comfortable on it, but she was doing just as well on KDE as Windows within a couple of minutes. I suspect the results would be much the same for Cinnamon.
58 • Replacement for XP (by Somewhat Reticent on 2014-07-08 08:20:29 GMT from United States)
No, it isn't "look-and-feel" the "world needs". It's access to functionality without high-learning-curve obscurities. That typically means, at minimum, basic and advanced GUI levels.
Microsoft didn't become a de-facto monopoly because their OS was better; far from it. But it was willing to do business - on both sides of every fence. It provided a robust (enough) platform. Trainable. Accessible. Standard.
It succeeded all too well. With luck (and effort) it may become as enduring as, say, the Volkswagen Beetle ...
59 • @37 - LXLE 12.04.4 Revisited (by Hoos on 2014-07-08 09:48:03 GMT from Singapore)
@Ronnie, I have a question:
When you say Revisited has "...all the updates of 14.04 wrap in 12.04.4 kernel/modules/drivers. All the software and features have been updated to be identical to the 14.04 release that is 64bit only. ", do you mean it's actually on the 14.04 repositories, save that you're using the 3.2+ kernel from 12.04 ?
Does that mean the installation will be recognised as 14.04 instead of 12.04?
60 • @59 (by Ronnie Whisler on 2014-07-08 10:08:54 GMT from United States)
No, its still 12.04.4, it has to be in order to take advantage of all the available modules and drivers that are in the repositories of that particular release, in other words, there are lets say nvidia drivers and the like that aren't even available in the 14.04 repositories anymore and or aren't compatible with 14.04 that many 32bit machines and its hardware might need for full performance and or support. 12.04.4 is supported for another three years which is exactly the same amount of time that Lubuntu & LXLE 14.04 is supported for, making it next to no difference between the release gap. I would suggest from here on out asking questions about LXLE be posted in the forums. This is a distrowatch comments page, not an LXLE support area. Lets try to respect that. Hope this clears things up.
61 • home network security (by corcaigher on 2014-07-08 10:34:02 GMT from United States)
When I checked my laptop for network services...I received the following output:
Starting Nmap 6.40 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-07-08 06:27 EDT
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.00047s latency).
Not shown: 995 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
445/tcp open microsoft-ds
631/tcp open ipp
3306/tcp open mysql
10000/tcp open snet-sensor-mgmt
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.09 seconds
...other than mysql, I have no idea why the other services are open. Are these necessary? How does one disable these services?
62 • @39 Davnel - Migrating from an other, older and unsopported operating system (by LMDE user on 2014-07-08 11:33:23 GMT from Canada)
I tried many flavours of Linux in the 2.5+ years that I've been experimenting with Linux after using another company's OSes basically since they started - certainly I'm no Linux Expert.
I like LinuxMint for various reasons. I like their Debian Edition because it's based on one of the oldest, most stable, mature, and secure Linux offerings (debian), and also because it's a 'rolling distribution,' meaning that as updates are made available, they can be applied to keep the system current (similar to the way the other brand's update worked, except their is no 'support ends on X date.')
I like the MATE desktop because it's light on resources, responds quickly, and looks good (to me at least).
My answer to your question is LinuxMint Debian Edition (LMDE) MATE. It doesn't look or work exactly the same as the other brand's, but a friend who used the other brand's OS and really doesn't know computers at all transitioned to LMDE MATE and has not had one problem adjusting.
Their are too many variables to say this will or will not work for you or anyone else.
63 • Good registrar (by Nesousx on 2014-07-08 12:12:01 GMT from France)
Sorry to hear about your problems with your current registrar. I can highly and warmly advise you to go at https://www.gandi.net/.
They have good tech, and have a great philosophy: they love open source, and contribute to it, they also help local projects they like, etc.
I have been using them as registrar for years (and some hosting too here an then), both personally and professionally.
64 • @39 • Project for DW readers (by G Savage on 2014-07-08 12:46:44 GMT from Canada)
I second Zorin. They've worked really hard to make it look and feel like XP.
Be sure to back-up all your files, favorites as an html file, and address book as a .csv file.
Also, be sure to use the right version for your machine. If its a single core, 32 bit machine, probably Zorin 8 Lite is the safest bet.
Good luck - just go slow and you'll be fine.
65 • registrar (by Jason on 2014-07-08 13:45:56 GMT from United States)
after working for five years with most of the main domain registrars, transferring, updating, customer service issues, I've had the most consistant and best customer service experiences with enom. http://www.enomcentral.com/
66 • tor + tails and the NSA does not play well together. (by Garon on 2014-07-08 14:46:28 GMT from United States)
I'm surprised that people are still shocked at what the NSA tries to do. I guess that you could call me an extremist because what about incognito mode in a browser? When I use that does that make me an evil person? This is getting ridiculous. It seems that :wq has the most realistic take on the matter. The thing we cannot do is cave in to fear tactics. The NSA is not God or even Godlike but they do have a power play problem. They want to be the Almighty but for the life of them they can't figure out how. So sad.
67 • @63 gandi's slogan... (by cykodrone on 2014-07-08 16:41:56 GMT from Canada)
...motto: "No b*llsh*t", too funny. Now excuse while I wipe the coffee that came out my nose from laughing. :D
68 • Hosting Company (by John Wolfe on 2014-07-08 16:48:16 GMT from United States)
I've had a lot of good service with ICDsoft.com . I was hosted at their Hong Kong servers before the built their US ones. Support was fast and good.
69 • Gandi (by anonymous on 2014-07-08 17:51:56 GMT from United States)
W3C uses Gandi. Enough said.
70 • It's Unanimous! (by anonymous on 2014-07-08 17:56:53 GMT from United States)
EFF uses Gandi, too!
71 • I miss Groklaw (by Thom on 2014-07-08 18:50:00 GMT from Sweden)
In the days of yore this wouldn't have been spared PJ's sharp pen:
search "microsoft seizes No-IPs domains" (maybe avoid Bing!... :)
72 • Domain name registrar: DomainDiscover (by Jason Hsu on 2014-07-08 19:53:09 GMT from United States)
DomainDiscover/TierraNet is my current domain registrar and was also my first. I left for cheaper prices elsewhere, but I have concluded that the savings aren't worth it. (Plus, $12-$15/year won't break the bank.) I have had problems elsewhere but never at DomainDiscover.
DomainDiscover/TierraNet is ICANN-accredited and NOT a reseller. One reseller I previously used TWICE had problems with my domain renewal. The reseller had to contact the registrar. I still don't know whether the reseller or the registrar messed up. I'd rather deal with the registrar directly, because that means less red tape in the way.
Although DomainDiscover/TierraNet has a fairly respectable size, you can't find any complaints about it. Entering "DomainDiscover sucks" or "TierraNet sucks" into Google shows that nobody has publicly complained about the service. In contrast, entering "GoDaddy sucks" or "Enom sucks" yields thousands of hits.
73 • Replacement for XP (by frodopogo on 2014-07-08 22:47:07 GMT from United States)
Well put- "Access to functionality without high learning-curve obscurities" IS what is needed.
A basic learning-curve obscurity in Linux is the use of the terminal.
For Linux geeks, the terminal is a powerful tool.
For Windows refugees, ANY use of the terminal, even to make a piece of hardware work is a "high learning-curve obscurity" It means that the user interface is broken, and the Terminal is a KLUDGE to get around the broken part.
Getting the average Windows user to use the terminal is like getting the man on the street to learn Latin, or Greek, or Esperanto. It's NOT gonna happen!
I've been watching other distros closely, and reading the reviews, but so far, there always seems to be something that makes things harder than they ought to be. Often that thing is the installation process, or the installation process for additional software.
Linux Mint in contrast often has reviews that the reviewer will call "boring"... because everything works as it should.
Conversely, people don't necessarily use Microsoft Windows because they like the look-and-feel- they HAVE to put up with the look-and-feel to get the functionality.
I tend to find Microsoft's esthetics garish and ugly (and they REALLY outdid themselves on Windows 8!!!!) To the degree that Zorin imitates Window's esthetic, I find it UGLY.
But that's trivial compared to the functionality. Superior esthetics only tips the balance when the functionality is equal.
One telling detail.... what Linux distros come preinstalled on new computers?
Until a Linux distro makes it there, it's pretty marginal.
74 • Refugees - burned once, ... (by Somewhat Reticent on 2014-07-09 00:31:32 GMT from United States)
Most seekers for Windows NT/2k/XP/Vista/7 replacement I've met handle basic scripts (batch files) with ease. The absence of The Full Manual, On-The-Other-Hand ... many nerds hide behind secret incantations, obfuscation by vocabulary, a pernicious practice that dates back at least to the (Ivory?) Tower of Babble. How many distro developers denounce Microsoft or Apple for monopolistic behavior, yet behave the same way themselves? Are victims of one abuser likely to be blind to more of the same from others?
If original aesthetics matter most, why is there a market for themes and styles?
When considering new hardware, I prefer to first ask which will run my choice of software. Software sells Silicon.
75 • Thanks (by davnel on 2014-07-09 01:06:23 GMT from United States)
Thanks to all for your responses. I'm currently playing with Linux Mint 17-64 Cinnamon, and like it.
@frodopogo - superb response, and exactly right. Thank you.
@29 - you are essentially right. Hollyweird and their lawyers have taught us that Bittorrent is BAD and that no one has any excuse to use it. They're wrong, of course, but that's what the general public has been taught. Too bad.
76 • @13, @23 and @25 (by Twodogs on 2014-07-09 02:07:37 GMT from United States)
@13, Right?! Looks very interesting.
@23, It's LXLE, not LXDE. Just sayin'.
@25, Very nice distro!
Very nice Distrowatch edition. Glad you are back online. I was having the 'Distrowatch d.t.'s' ;)
77 • Domain (by kc1di on 2014-07-09 11:32:07 GMT from United States)
Good to see everything back up an working.
78 • a good replacement for XP (by TH on 2014-07-09 13:43:47 GMT from United States)
@39 looking for a good replacement for Windows XP:
I'll cast my vote for Point Linux. It's uncluttered, easy to use, easy to find your way in the menus.
79 • XP (by Mac on 2014-07-09 15:18:28 GMT from United States)
I have found that kubuntu works better for XP users here. Kill all the efects and every thing is in the right place. you can ever have a red x to close the windows, dmz cursor as default. Windows can cover task bar. Have a couple of old xp users that barely know how to turn on the pc using it. Have fun Mack
80 • Old Machine (by pfb on 2014-07-09 15:42:29 GMT from United States)
Linux seems to be passing me by. My old machine has an AMD Athlon64 3200+ processor with an 80 Gb hard drive and 1.0 G of RAM. Video is GEForce 6200. I am running OpenSuse 13.1 on it and it is beginning to slow down. I also have Fedora 20 on it, which works fine. I thought to replace Suse with a different distro. So when CentOS 7 came out, I tried both Gnome and KDE live DVDs. Kde worked marginally, Gnome would not function at all.
Sometimes I am not too thick in the head, and I eventually learn. In the past, I have discarded Mint and Mageia and Debian as being no good. I now believe my computer is becoming inadeqaute to run modern Linux. Fedora 20(KDE) and Ubuntu work fine. Of course, so does Slacko.
And all distros work fine on my Toshiba laptop (dual core Intel).
I read so much here about this and that distro/DE being a memory hog, that I was surprised to find which ones are no longer suitable for my old computer. Fedora is the last one I would have expected to make the cut. As for Ubuntu, I have to admit, I am not an Ubuntu person. I prefer my not-that-slow OpenSuse. But Mint, Mageia and CentOS were surprises. I would have thought them all leaner that Fedora.
81 • @80 Old Machine (by mandog on 2014-07-09 20:12:09 GMT from Peru)
Any thing XFCE should run OK lxde is very light Open box as well
visit https://forum.manjaro.org/ they have a good selection of really light respins
there should be one for your need Manjaro is arch made easy with all the tools you need.
82 • @80 (by :wq on 2014-07-09 23:54:48 GMT from United States)
Unless you're beholden to GNOME or KDE, you might want to give CentOS 7 another look when EPEL 7 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL) comes out of beta, as Xfce 4.10 and MATE 1.8 should be available from it. You can add EPEL as an additional repository (https://i.imgur.com/mDpw6BP.jpg) and forgo installing GNOME or KDE, and install Xfce or MATE instead (https://i.imgur.com/XmcfP7V.jpg). Wait until EPEL 7 is out of beta though, if you do decide to give CentOS 7 a second look.
I am a little surprised about your experiences with Debian and Mageia. Did you encounter the same issues with them, or was it something else that made them "no good"? If you haven't already, you might want to try any of the various alternative (i.e. not GNOME or KDE) DEs or window managers (Openbox, pekwm, etc) that are available.
Have you tried anything based on Slackware, such as Salix, VectorLinux, Absolute Linux, etc?
83 • Domain Registrar (by KenWeiLL on 2014-07-09 23:56:08 GMT from Philippines)
Definitely recommend https://www.namecheap.com/
84 • @82 XFCE Old Machine (by pfb on 2014-07-10 00:37:23 GMT from United States)
To be fair, I suppose, I should try Xfce. I tried it with Fedora and it is quite impressive. It has improved quite a bit since I last tried it.
Mageia KDE was pretty much the same experience I had with CentOS 7 Gnome. I could not get it to work.
Debian, as I recall, was similar to PCLOS. Neither liked my dual monitors and refused to recognize my Acer monitor. Even xrandr couldn't find it. I assume there is an alternate way to get xrandr to turn the Acer on, but I couldn't tind it (easily). My days of fighting to get mice and monitors working are over. When these things do not work out-of-the-box, I quit.
85 • Springdale Linux 7.0 - first 32-bit EL (by Caitlyn Martin on 2014-07-10 01:07:16 GMT from United States)
I've just installed the alpha(?) build of the 32-bit Springdale Linux 7.0 on a laptop that is more than up to the task of running it. It has some known bugs but it's already very usable. I have a customer that is having me do a RHEL 7.0 deployment on some new servers so living in the new environment and getting used to it is helpful to me, even on older equipment. The boot image is at: http://springdale.princeton.edu/data/puias/7.0/i386/os/images/ in case anyone else is interested.
Oh, and for any of you who have used Stella, the nux-desktop repository for 7.0 is nicely populated now. It's compatible with EPEL and should work OK with Springdale for those who want to use it as a desktop. I'll be trying it out shortly.
86 • @81 (by jaws222 on 2014-07-10 01:08:16 GMT from United States)
"Any thing XFCE should run OK lxde is very light Open box as well "
Exactly right Mate is not that bad either.
87 • Registrars, hosts, the NSA... (by Caitlyn Martin on 2014-07-10 01:13:29 GMT from United States)
I recently had really poor experiences with Network Solutions, who were offering very cheap domain name registration. Never again. I will check out Ladislav's recommendation for gandi.net.
For hosting companies I use two: Linode, who basically rent you a bare VM which you load with the Linux distro of your choice and build any way you want; and NetSonic, the former host for DistroWatch. I've had very good experiences with both. While both are American companies Linode does offer hosting in other places, i.e.: Japan, for those who have a problem with the U.S.
Speaking of the U.S., for those of you attacking the NSA, you might consider the fact that almost every other Western democracy does the same things. However, in some countries they have things like the Official Secrets Act that prevents the press from reporting on it. However, there have been articles on some of the same things being done in Europe and in Australia. If you really think the NSA is so evil you may want to look at what your own government is doing before throwing stones. Oh, and no, this is not a defense of the NSA, but rather me pointing out the reality of the situation.
88 • @84 Korora (by cykodrone on 2014-07-10 02:16:50 GMT from Canada)
Korora Xfce=Fedora Xfce but with waaaaaay more multimedia and preconfig OOTB (Fedora has strict adherence to FOSS 'law', lol), Korora Xfce is prettier than Fedora Xfce OOTB. If you still want to use Fedora Xfce, install the 'easylife' rpm (enables non-free and multimedia, among others, be VERY choosy, stay away from 'rawhide'), you'll have to download and manual install the easylife rpm, which was not too much trouble from what I remember (as simple as a right-click on the package icon I believe). The deal breaker for me was, I have a dual SSD Raid 0, Fedora insisted on using the 2 drives in an LVM config, I can get Debian Xfce to use them the way they're intended.
89 • @80 and 84: Old Machine (by Hoos on 2014-07-10 05:24:42 GMT from Singapore)
I cannot fully comment on your hardware, but 1 GB RAM is usually an OK amount of RAM for normal tasks, and I think your CPU is similar to a Pentium4, which is again not the weakest processor I've read of that is still running Linux.
It is not so much that Debian, or Fedora, or Mint or Magaia etc, are "no good" for your machine; it is more a matter of what desktop environment the distro you tried came with.
DEs like the newer versions of KDE (comes with Mageia), Unity (comes with Ubuntu), Cinnamon (comes with one version of Mint) and Gnome (comes with Fedora) are quite resource heavy with lots of eye candy and bells and whistles that old CPUs and graphics cards may not be able to handle.
So what you need to do is look for versions of distros that come with lighter DEs like XFCE, LXDE, MATE or Openbox.
Mint can also be found in XFCE and MATE versions;
Instead of Ubuntu, go for Lubuntu or LXLE (Ubuntu derivative with LXDE);
Debian - try Debian-based distros that come with LXDE or Openbox DE, like WattOS, crunchbang.
Also, distros based on a "parent" (e.g. crunchbang instead of Debian) sometimes have more out of the box functionality and drivers than the parent. That might help you in that the distro may be able to configure your monitor/graphics easier than in Debian itself.
90 • @80 Loading down old hardware with puffy distros (by cykodrone on 2014-07-10 06:46:23 GMT from Canada)
Anything old will struggle with an Ubuntu based distro, they're inherently 'fat'.
@80's CPU... http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%203200+%20-%20ADA3200DAA4BP%20%28ADA3200BPBOX%29.html
Now that I actually read your specs, you might want to give wattOS a look, I have an old (32-bit) P4 that runs their newest releases (R8) based on Debian quite well. The 64-bit comes in only two flavours I believe, LXDE and MATE, LXDE would be the lighter DE of the pair. It's specifically designed to squeeze remaining life from old hardware. Being Debian based, it will be a rolling install once deal, Ubuntu based only get fatter with each release.
91 • LXLE (by Bernard Victor on 2014-07-10 13:22:03 GMT from United Kingdom)
I wanted to try LXLE But though I tried burning the iso to a memory stick both using Unetbootin and Mint's USB burner, in neither case would it boot. It just went straight to grub .
I tried the 64bit version and though this loaded OK it will not run on my rather old Dell machine.
92 • Tails (by Sam on 2014-07-10 17:36:02 GMT from United States)
I know someone who knows someone who is a developer on the Tails distribution. Apparently returning to the United States from a Linux Conference in Germany can become a multi-hour affair at our nation's fine airports.
Maybe the NSA staff are too busy taking cues from this season's 24, where the Wikileaks guy was supposed to be as bad as the Muslim terrorists...
93 • @Ultimate Edition 4.2 lite & Deepin 2014 - Follow up (by NoHellsBelles on 2014-07-11 02:35:57 GMT from United States)
Ultimate Edition 4.2 lite: This is another distro/spin, that unfortunately does not currently support UEFI secure boot out of the box, showstopper at live boot menu. Save your bandwidth if you have one of these type of puters. Oh, maybe next release.
Deepin 2014: Does support UEFI secure boot out of the box. Option to boot to Live DE, went smooth. Wireless (broadcom) works and audio works too. A very slick version of GNOME3/Shell. Deepin has their "own" media players. IMHO very nice distro. Worth a try, if you want a Ubuntu base.
94 • Ubuntu - A misperception with its own popularity (by Ben Myers on 2014-07-11 15:00:36 GMT from United States)
Look at the numbers. Mint is more popular than Ubuntu, according to the numbers every day on DistroWatch. Look again. The Mint numbers include all the major Mint desktop variants, whereas Ubuntu's number is for the most basic Ubuntu with Unity. Then scan down the list and you see Lubuntu with LXDE, Xubuntu with XFCE, Ubuntu GNOME, Kubuntu KDE and, finally, Ubuntu Studio. Add up the numbers and you get 4784 page hits for Ubuntu versus Mint at 3393, as of 10:55 EDT on July 11.
I am not saying that one is better than the other. And I cannot figure out whose problem of perception this is, Ubuntu's or DistroWatch's. But the aggregate numbers are something to consider before one uses them to make claims about distro propularity... Ben Myers
95 • @39 and @75 davnel (by Kazlu on 2014-07-11 15:37:22 GMT from France)
Well I come a bit late here and you already got some very good answers. I strongly support frodopogo's response in #73. Even for the DE: MATE is lighter on ressources and will run faster than Cinnamon on computers that used to run Windows XP, which should not be very young. But if Cinnamon is fine for you, that's good :)
I just want to draw your attention to a point of Linux Mint: they have a paticular way of upgrading from a release to aonther, compared to what has become a habit in other mainstream distributions. Basically, you need to use a Mint tool to backup your data and list of installed software, then install the new version, then restore your data and have the system reinstall your software based on the previous list. The others often go click, download, wait and reboot. You can get more explanations from the Mint website here: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2. In a word, the Mint way is safer, you have much less chance that anything goes wrong. But it may be more complicated to do. If this suits you, then by all means KEEP Linux Mint, it is a very good choice and in my opinion one of the best replacements for Windows XP. If this is a problem for you, I suggest you take a look at Xubuntu of maybe Linux Lite, two Ubuntu-based Xfce distros that should go well with most computers that used tu run Windows XP.
96 • @80 & @82 Old machine (by Kazlu on 2014-07-11 15:37:42 GMT from France)
I will second #89 Hoos: You may try any distro you want, the results will be the same. It's not that your computer is inadequate to run modern Linux, but it is if you want to run some DEs, that Hoos mentionned.
As you considered it yourself in #82, I suggest you give Xfce a try. Good news is, it is a very commun DE and many distros have an Xfce variant. And it is not harder to use than KDE, I even think it is easier to get around, but this is a very personnal taste. So My advice is the following: stay with your distro of choice, and when the time for upgrade or reinstallation comes, with a new version, get the Xfce edition instead. You say you like OpenSUSE, well their installation DVD contains Xfce so you may install it the same way as other DEs. I did it once with LXDE, if I remember correctly when you are presented with the choice of a desktop environment, you need to select "other environments" to see Xfce, but that was for 12.3, maybe that changed...
For the record, I installed Xubuntu 14.04 on an old Dell with a Pentium IV @2.4GHz and 1GB of RAM. That seems similar to your computer, maybe a bit inferior. It works very well. Since it is a single core, if you open multiple applications it will hang more than a multi-core processor of course, but I was happy to see that it was very quick if I do not launch too many operations at a time.
97 • @96 Comparing distros & machines (by cykodrone on 2014-07-11 22:59:57 GMT from Canada)
80/82's CPU (see link in post 90) is 64-bit, you are comparing your 32-bit P4 Xubuntu to a 64-bit Athlon, 32-bit is not as taxing on hardware, are suggesting he/she runs 32-bit? Ubuntu and its derivatives weren't even born yet when his/her processor was built, suggesting bloat (I won't even blab on about the Amazon spyware in Ubuntu) when there are perfectly good Debian based alternatives available makes no sense, sorry, and the added bonus of a Debian based being a 'rolling' install. Ubuntu peaked at 12.04, now it's just a buggy, bloated mess, spyware included. Corporations are NSA friendly and have no problem 'co-operating', not saying any Linux vendors/producers have yet, be we all know other corporations have already, Canonical is a corporation, nuff said.
98 • @61 home network security (by Vance on 2014-07-12 09:37:50 GMT from United States)
You can list what services are running using the command "netstat -lvpnut" (as root). You'll get something like the following:
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2388/portmap
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2663/X
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:48533 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2168/python
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2518/cupsd
tcp 0 0 :::6000 :::* LISTEN 2663/X
tcp 0 0 :::631 :::* LISTEN 2518/cupsd
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* 2388/portmap
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* 2518/cupsd
The last column shows the process ID number and name of the program. You can figure out from this what the service is; how to disable it depends on what distribution you are running.
The local address tells you where the process is listening - those with 0.0.0.0:### (IPv4) or :::### (IPv6) will accept connections from anywhere on port ###, while ones listening to 127.0.0.1:### or ::1:### can only be reached over the loopback interface from the local host.
Note that the above doesn't take into account any firewall rules; those are a layer of protection that sits on top of what you're seeing here. For example, although the X server is shown as listening to the world, I have a firewall rule preventing outsiders from connecting to it.
99 • DotEasy (by Wil Barath on 2014-07-13 00:20:05 GMT from Canada)
Omg, just for the sheer horror story of it, I bid you to Wikipedia's DotEasy article... read the linked customer testimonials :-O
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doteasy Cite 3-9
100 • DotEasy (by Alan J. Meunier on 2014-07-13 03:11:46 GMT from United States)
I too have used GoDaddy for over a decade without ever a hitch nor hiccup...just my dimes worth!
101 • DotEasy (by Bill on 2014-07-13 17:48:31 GMT from United States)
Another satisfied GoDaddy client here. (Though I cannot find the pretty girls). lol
102 • Please read the fine print (by American Citizen on 2014-07-14 01:54:45 GMT from United States)
Does anybody ever bother to read the terms of service of domain registrars? I've read many of them. Gandi is the best in the world. The only US-based domain registrar that actually tries to accommodate their customers is tiny NameSilo. Marketing doesn't mean anything. Somebody's experience doesn't mean anything. The only thing that matters is the contractual agreement between parties. That's what's enforceable in court. All US-based domain registrars except the one mentioned above can terminate any customer's domain, at any time, for any reason or no reason at all; or they can hijack your sub-domains and host advertising on them; or they will insert pop-under ads in your redirects. READ YOUR CONTRACT!
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|• Issue 624 (2015-08-24): Zorin OS 10, Sabayon's new features, Solus seeks funding, Debian turns 22, new PC-BSD repository|
|• Issue 623 (2015-08-17): VectorLinux 7.1, Ubuntu One source released, Moksha Desktop ships in Bodhi, Fedora developers debate Chromium|
|• Issue 622 (2015-08-10): antiX 15, Fedora tests kdbus, Debian tracks UEFI issues, word processors for the CLI|
|• Issue 621 (2015-08-03): Point Linux 3.0, Debian drops Sparc, Fedora package stats, VirtualBox 5.0|
|• Issue 620 (2015-07-27): Debian GNU/Hurd 2015, Linux Bible, Ubuntu MATE gets new Welcome app, Telegram on Fedora, Plasma Mobile|
|• Issue 619 (2015-07-20): SolydXK 201506, Tanglu's new bug tracker, FSF and Canonical negotiate licensing, Haiku unveils new init system|
|• Issue 618 (2015-07-13): Semplice Linux 7, openSUSE derivatives, Debian adopts GCC 5, Docker ported to FreeBSD|
|• Issue 617 (2015-07-06): Alpine linux 3.2.0, Fedora on MIPS CPUs, Solus offers daily builds, Ubuntu migrating to Snappy|
|• Issue 616 (2015-06-29): MidnightBSD 0.6, openSUSE's "42", encryption added to the ext4 file system, FreeBSD on a Raspberry Pi|
|• Issue 615 (2015-06-22): Raspbian 2015, Fedora works around Intel driver issue, openSUSE adopts GCC 5, frozen desktop while copying files|
|• Issue 614 (2015-06-15): Chromixium OS 1.0, Debian 8.1 released, OpenBSD running in the cloud, sudo myths|
|• Issue 613 (2015-06-08): Fedora 22, Cinnamon 2.6 released, FreeBSD's history, working around Secure Boot|
|• Issue 612 (2015-06-01): Manjaro OpenRC, Debian, Devuan and systemd, Fedora 22 released, Mandriva closes its doors|
|• Issue 611 (2015-05-25): Kubuntu 15.04, openSUSE adopts Plasma 5, Ubuntu's Snappy, words from Debian's Neil McGovern|
|• Issue 610 (2015-05-18): NethServer 6.6, interview with Neil McGovern, CentOS supports AArach64, Foresight discontinued|
|• Issue 609 (2015-05-11): OpenIndiana 2015.03, LXLE 14.04, PC-BSD Current, creating ISO images, Ask A Leader with Peter Ganten|
|• Issue 608 (2015-05-04): Debian 8.0, Bodhi forks Enlightenment, new Debian GNU/Hurd release, distribution release frequency|
|• Issue 607 (2015-04-27): Ubuntu 15.04, Chapeau 21, Debian 8.0 features, Fedora 22 Beta details|
|• Issue 606 (2015-04-20): Linux Mint 2 "LMDE", Matthew Miller, Debian's new Project Leader, Evolve OS name change|
|• Issue 605 (2015-04-13): SuperX 3.0, HAMMER2 features, Linux 4.0, Vince Pooley, Google Code closing|
|• Issue 604 (2015-04-06): Void 20150221, Haiku's commercial partners, Debian release date, Tumbleweed features|
|• Issue 603 (2015-03-30): Tails 1.3, LibreOffice Online, Linux Firewalls book review, Kubuntu with Plasma 5|
|• Issue 602 (2015-03-23): Bodhi Linux 3.0.0, distro popularity, OpenBSD's new web server, GNU Manifesto turns 30|
|• Issue 601 (2015-03-16): Ubuntu MATE 14.10, modern distros for old hardware, AppArmor in Debian, Fedora 22 Alpha|
|• Issue 600 (2015-03-09): Korora 21, distro diversity, Ubuntu gets systemd, PC-BSD security features|
|• Issue 599 (2015-03-02): Sabayon 15.02, creating good passwords, new YaST modules, LMDE preview
|• Issue 598 (2015-02-23): Netrunner 14.1, Vivaldi web browser, Debian election, Cinnamon improvements|
|• Issue 597 (2015-02-16): MakuluLinux MCDE 2.0, Ubuntu phones launch, m0n0wall ceases development, live Linux updates|
|• Issue 596 (2015-02-09): ArchBSD 2014.09.04, encrypted e-mail, Fedora upgrade stats, FreeBSD's support policy|
|• Issue 595 (2015-02-02): ExTiX 15.1, Destroying encrypted data, openSUSE election, OSDisc statistics|
|• Issue 594 (2015-01-26): KaOS 2014.12, Commercial distros, Snappy Ubuntu, PackageKit fixes|
|• Issue 593 (2015-01-19): ReactOS 0.3.17, Unity on Mir, Bluetooth support, openSUSE election|
|• Issue 592 (2015-01-12): Mint 17.1, load averages, binary logs, GNOME Software|
|• Issue 591 (2015-01-05): Manjaro 0.8.11, systemd, Devuan, Torrent Corner|
|• Issue 590 (2014-12-22): Fedora 21, Ubuntu phone, expanding ZFS storage, Able2Extract|
|• Issue 589 (2014-12-15): Parsix 7.0, Ubuntu "Snappy", PC-BSD upgrades, How Linux Works|
|• Issue 588 (2014-12-08): PC-BSD 10.2, rolling-release Ubuntu GNOME, Bitrig, systemd|
|• Issue 587 (2014-12-01): Trisquel 7.0, Kubuntu 14.10 "Plasma5", FreeBSD on 64-bit ARM, Jolla and UbuTab|
|• Full list of all issues|
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