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1 • Q4OS (by Somewhat Reticent on 2014-05-19 09:13:33 GMT from United States) |
Installation 'look-and-feel' definitely like initial classic Microsoft Windows setup.
2 • Q4OS (by cykodrone on 2014-05-19 13:27:51 GMT from Canada)
No offence guys but talk about being stuck in the past, is that supposed to look like Win 2K? That's FOUR major MS releases ago. At least make it look like XP, lol. I guess if a retro industrial MS looking OS is your thing...
AFAIAC, if I were to switch to pseudo Win Linux, I certainly wouldn't want something that MS retro.
3 • Q4OS, don't need da bling. (by Garon on 2014-05-19 13:54:39 GMT from United States)
It seems to me to be something just simple enough to use as a base for virtualbox or something like what is stated in the description. I don't believe it was designed as a standalone complete desktop operating system. In this case looks are irrelevant and bling is unnecessary. Also it would be a good base for machine control. Aka, CNC.
4 • Mint goes LTS (by Mark on 2014-05-19 14:41:44 GMT from United States)
Generally I'm happy that Clem & co. have decided to stick with the LTS releases of Ubuntu for their base. Most users don't want to do a major upgrade every 6 months, as long as they're getting essential patches and driver updates. Now the Mint team can focus on upgrading Cinnamon for everybody who's using Ubuntu 14.04 as a base, without having to worry about compatibility with the next three upstream Ubuntu releases.
5 • VortexBox (by Brisbane on 2014-05-19 17:17:00 GMT from United States)
I'm willing to bet that DVD ripping failed because the MakeMKV trial key is expired. Go here to get an up-to-date one: http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1053
Once that's done, you'll find it rips about 98% of the discs you put in. Hope that helps.
6 • VortexBox (by Brisbane on 2014-05-19 17:20:14 GMT from United States)
Almost forgot, one of the best parts of Vortexbox is that you can do a one-click install of Plex and use it with a LOT more devices. I sat at lunch today at work and streamed a movie from my Vortexbox server AT HOME to my tablet. Works like a charm!
7 • KDE5? (by Marco on 2014-05-19 19:00:46 GMT from United States)
Maybe I sound like those pushing for gnu / Linux, but KDE is trying hard to re-brand itself as a community. Yes, there was KDE 3.5, but now they brand their workspaces as Plasma Desktop / Plasma Netbook.
8 • LTS Mint (by Goetz Kluge on 2014-05-19 19:22:43 GMT from Germany)
The older I get, the less I want to spend time with maintaining the OS on my computer. And also for young "family administrators" who want to assist their parents it is nice to work with LTS distributions. From what I know, Mint presently is the best choice for such kind of users.
9 • Q4OS (by MondCane on 2014-05-19 21:05:39 GMT from Argentina)
@cykodrone : Actually, that is pretty much how a fresh Win 2008 R2 desktop looks like... How's that for Retro? =)
10 • Mint goes LTS (by minter on 2014-05-19 22:06:34 GMT from Poland)
"It will also be trivial to upgrade from version 17 to 17.1, then 17.2 and so on." If that's the case, why bother releasing intermediate versions of the system, i.e. 17.1, 17.2 and not focus more energy on the LTS versions to make it even better? Could someone please explain this further?
11 • Mint LTS Base (by Ray on 2014-05-19 22:07:33 GMT from United States)
Theres going to be haters and naysayers, but frankly, I am pleased that Mint team switched to an lts base, especially considering interim *buntu releases are only supported 9 months (unless that changed again and I missed it), forcing either risky complete upgrades, or complete reinstalls. Bodhi does the same, and I have been happily using that on my netbook forever now lol. Good decision (imo) Clem :)
12 • @9 & 11 (by cykodrone on 2014-05-20 01:01:51 GMT from Canada)
@9...I believe you, the irony is I held out with Win 2K for the longest time, I finally had to break down and buy an OEM XP Home, my last MS purchase, been an XP free happy Linux user for years now.
@11...I agree, it makes me wonder why Ubuntu has to have that frequent release 'presence' (market saturation?), I guess they have the time and bucks to throw around like a drunk sailor on shore-leave, lol. I would rather have a stable OS for 2 years than deal with basically beta releases in between, personally I've found the in between releases to be sloppy. I don't have that problem anymore though, I run Debian stable with custom repos. :D
13 • @10 (minter) (by kneekoo on 2014-05-20 02:44:32 GMT from Romania)
The new ISO images (x.1, x.2 etc) are essential for people installing the operating system months/years after the release. You'd have to perform a lot of updates, which takes a lot of time and bandwidth.
14 • BSD removing Itanium (by Nate on 2014-05-20 03:50:52 GMT from United States)
I wonder why they intend to remove support for Itanium. I'll admit that Itanium wasn't exactly successful. It took almost a decade to break even. But that shows that there's still a large number of Itanium machines in the wild. Dropping support for them seems counter-productive. This would be totally different if this were something nobody used, like the iAPX-432.
On the other hand, I appreciate that they're planning to improve ARM and Mips support, and I get that they probably had to kill itanium support to compensate for the developer overhead.
Still, killing support for an entire active branch of processors seems reckless. Thoughts anyone?
15 • @7 KDE (by greg on 2014-05-20 06:29:14 GMT from Slovenia)
You forgot plasma active. It's all KDE desktop modified for use in various devices. the phisolophy and apps stay the same i believe. Netbook plasma is ment for use on smaller screens found in netbooks, active plasma is ment for use on tocuh devices (tablets). they all share the look and feel and also the way htings are done.
16 • Elementary (by Sayth on 2014-05-20 06:30:29 GMT from Australia)
Wonder if you could do a few more interviews in the next weeks on Distrowatch.
Would be intereested to here more from the Elementary team and see if you can't squeeze a little juice out of them on what their new release will feature.
Also same goes for the new Fedora workstation release in 21.
Aaron Siego and the new KDE etc.
17 • It's your choise (by Garon on 2014-05-20 13:03:14 GMT from United States)
@10, The purpose of the interim releases are to improve the next LTS release. If a person wants to experiment with some new technology then they will have the opportunity. Else you can stay with the LTS releases for stability, and there are still ways to get the latest applications and keep stability.
@11, Forcing upgrades? What are you talking about?
@12, The same explanation goes for you also. It seems that people don't realize what a LTS release is and what the interim releases in between the LTS releases are for. What makes people think they have to reinstall every 6 or 9 or 12 months? I don't on my main machine and it's pure bull to make people think that have to upgrade or reinstall every few months on their machines. You don't have to upgrade to have up to date software. That can be done with these so called custom repos, ppa's. I keep a machine set aside for the in between releases in case I can help the process along and help improve the next LTS release. Mint made a wise decision by going the same route as Ubuntu and if people have problems with the interim releases, or as some people say, beta quality release, of any distro then it is their choice but no one if forced to do so.
18 • Re: BSD removing Itanium (by Ralph on 2014-05-20 16:58:34 GMT from Canada)
There may be lots of Itanium machines in the world, but how many of them are running FreeBSD?
19 • Elementary and Zorin (by Georgia on 2014-05-22 20:40:45 GMT from Canada)
After trying a few distros that did not work as promised, last night I tried both Elementary and Zorin. I was very impressed with both. They kept me up trying them out making me retire to bed late. Now I'm looking forward to Mint 17 LTS.
20 • Mint LTS (by Jeff on 2014-05-23 01:21:37 GMT from United States)
It's about time they came to their senses.
The previous release system they had was rendered stupid by the nine month support from Ubuntu, then Mint would release three or four months later so only five or six months of support for each release, and the Mint team was back on the hamster wheel.
Really any non LTS from Ubuntu or based on it is for beta testers only.
21 • Ubuntu Non-LTS (by Somewhat Reticent on 2014-05-23 03:23:13 GMT from United States)
The latest-and-greatest features, but not-so-stable ... like Fedora is for RH, only more-so? ... or DebIan Sid? Rolling - and sometimes Reeling?
22 • Chakra Release (by Oliver on 2014-05-23 07:54:59 GMT from Germany)
From the release notes: "Nepomuk search has been replaced by Baloo, we have implemented a patch that permits the user to disable Baloo"
Kudos to the developer; at least someone has some sense.
Best regards, Oliver
23 • @22 baloo (by greg on 2014-05-23 09:33:18 GMT from Slovenia)
Yay for the patch.
on the other hand it would be better to just give a note to the user about what is happening. as it is now baloo runs and once it indexes things (it took about 3 hours in my case) quiet down and i do not have any interference from it. but it is never shown to the user that something is working "in the background". only massive CPU usage and a process jumping up an down the CPU monitor.
after all is indexed search is much faster.
24 • Mint should switch to Debian base (by hobbitland on 2014-05-23 11:37:46 GMT from United Kingdom)
I have also given up on Ubuntu 12/.04/14.04 and switched to Debian 7.5. Canonical keep releasing half baked releases that require a lot of time to fix.
Releasing Ubuntu 14.04 without gstreamer0.10 support and breaking Firefox 29 htm5 mp4 playback is just unforgiveable.
Debian 7.5 has both gstreamer0.10 and 1.0. Its these little things like pulseaudio, unity, mir that Canonical keeps screwing up and drives people crazy. Did you know even Xubuntu is infected with some unity libraries?
25 • re 21 (by corneliu on 2014-05-23 14:10:59 GMT from Canada)
I don't know where you got this idea that Fedora is no stable. I have been using Fedora as desktop both at work and at home since 2009 when Mandriva went down. All these years Fedora had been rock solid all the time. Yes, it's got the latest stable packages, and i don't see any problem with that (in fact that's why I use Fedora).
There are some stupid myths floating around in the Linux world and this (that latest packages means lack of stability) is one of the most annoying. Very often the latest packages contain fixes that improve the stability.
26 • @25 Fedora (by fernbap on 2014-05-23 19:09:43 GMT from Portugal)
Well, i can speak for myself. I don't use Fedora because it is the ONLY distro that refuses to boot after install on my pc.
Fedora is by definition not stable. It is an experimental distro used to test stuff that is to be later integrated on RHEL. If it has been stable on your pc, well, you have been just lucky.
And no, noone is saying here that newer is instable, what people says is that new software is not stable BEFORE it has been tested and proven to be stable.
Presently, i restle with a wine regression. Wine 1.4 runs starcraft 1 perfectly, while 1.6 and 1.7 do not.
It may be a regression of the "stable" Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, though.
27 • 26 • @25 Fedora (by mandog on 2014-05-24 13:00:02 GMT from Peru)
Fedora is to redhat as Ubuntu is to Debian both unstable if fedora will not boot after install then Redhat will not boot as Fedora becomes the next Redhat as Ubuntu becomes the next Debian.
28 • @27 (by Brandon Sniadajewski on 2014-05-25 01:18:34 GMT from United States)
You're only half-right. Fedora, yes, is basically the proving ground for RHEL, but Ubuntu takes its packages from Debian (Sid IIRC), except forthe Unity packages of course.
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