| DistroWatch Weekly
1 • Software Freedom Day is coming! (by Ric de France on 2005-09-05 12:10:26 GMT from Australia) |
Just a quick word about Software Freedom Day - it's on 10th September this year (2005). Find out if there's a local team near your locale, and join in the fun. You may convert one or two proprietary OS users to Linux or BSD users in the process...
Keep up the great work as always...
2 • elive (by mark_alec on 2005-09-05 12:42:36 GMT from Australia)
Another Monday, another great read of Distrowatch weekly.
Elive certainly looks interesting. I have heard a lot about enlightenment but have never used it. I shall use it on my next computer (emerge e).
3 • elive 0.3 (by fez on 2005-09-05 13:08:16 GMT from Germany)
The DE is absolutely stunning and very useable, if you consider that "eye-candy" most often means "pain-ass".
The hardware detection even recognizes my nvidia card.
Looking forward for the next release!
4 • Linspire/Freespire broohaha (by John Coonfield on 2005-09-05 13:28:30 GMT from United States)
The give-away hit OSNews, /. and here, and was picked up elsewhere as well, so the servers are absolutely hammered at the moment. And, recently, the cost of CNR has been split into two options: 1. Bare-bones, download software only-USD20 per year. 2. Download software, get OS updates, get discounts on software they sell, USD49.95.
5 • Donation (by d00m3d on 2005-09-05 13:44:43 GMT from Hong Kong)
Donation to Enlightenment is good. I would like to nominate Busybox, the small piece of program that can resemble many parts of coreutils, which made benefits to various mini-distros and even installer projects of major distros as next month's project for donation.
Looking forward to reading the next release! Cheers!
6 • feedback on donations (by anonymous coward on 2005-09-05 14:34:16 GMT from United States)
just a suggestion...to be a little more transparent to your regular readers regarding donations. we currently have no idea whether the recipient has even acknowledged receipt of donated money. why not post the thank you note or a snippet thereof in the next issue of dw. if they don't respond, post that also. that way, we can differentiate who was raised with manners, and who was raised in a barn. i can guarantee that you would get a "thank you" if the money was donated to me ;-)
7 • RE: feedback on donations (by ladislav on 2005-09-05 14:47:29 GMT from Taiwan)
Things are not always that simple. Some donation methods try hard to hide the particulars of the donor; the SourceForge system is the perfect example of this. Apparently, donating through SourceForge means that the recipient of the donation doesn't know who the money comes from and doesn't even get the "note" accompanying the donation! Needless to say, many many open source projects are hosted by SourceForge and they use the SourceForge donations system.
One other thing I hate about the SourceForge system is that they only accept donations in certain denominations, so you can't donate a sum of money you want to donate, only the sum that is acceptable. I don't understand why they don't allow the donor to decide on the sum - surely, it is much simpler to implement it that way than to provide 6 donations buttons for various denominations.
8 • Podcast? (by LinuxHungry on 2005-09-05 15:57:54 GMT from United States)
What happened to the Podcast of distrowatch weekly?
9 • Donations. (by BreMac on 2005-09-05 17:40:01 GMT from Canada)
Personally, I think I good project to donate to would be ZeroInstall.
10 • Donations (by zukakog on 2005-09-05 18:23:30 GMT from United States)
"12/2004: UNICEF - Tsunami Relief Operation"
What happened to:
"08/2005: Red Cross - Hurricane Katrina Relief"
11 • Can we donate to distrowatch monthly donation (by monkeymartin on 2005-09-05 19:08:27 GMT from Canada)
I would like to donate to the monthly donation. Is their a way I can do this. I know that I could just donate to the project its self but I would rather donate through Distrowatch.com
12 • Pacman is the only package manager that we need (by monkeymartin on 2005-09-05 19:12:35 GMT from Canada)
What mandrive is doing with their package manager is great I think it will help linux a lot.
The best package manager is pacman (from Arch Linux) I wish every distro used pacman (this is all a distro needs for packag managment)
13 • Freespire...... (by Distrowatch Fan and more fan on 2005-09-05 19:15:14 GMT from United States)
I feel Andrew Betts was doing a good thing making Freespire......
I could care less if it was Linspire stripped down or not .....
The fact he was attempting to make his own distro was awsome...
There are not alot of people willing to attempt such a feat and he did ....
So with that I say.....
If your reading this Andrew Betts---- Good Luck With Your Re-Named Project..... :)
I look forward to trying it out (if you decide to release it that is)......
As for Linspire...... Thank you for giving us all the chance to own a truely awsome operating system....
I have always loved Linspire and now am happy to say I own my very own copy thanks to your generous offer......
After witnessing the power and performance of Linspire 5.0, I will be purchasing a CNR membership to keep my new found software updated.........
Thanks Distrowatch for all the wonderful stories and OS updates......
The Distrowatch, Linspire, and now squiggleOS Fan
14 • distro is great!!! (by klhrevolutionist on 2005-09-05 19:24:22 GMT from United States)
Another great read!!!
And I hope that since I am an avid reader you don't mind if I tell people
about the coming: Puppy Foundation Weekend moved forward to 9-12 Sep 2005
Here about it it's called pawcasting http://www.refrozen.com/uploaded-files/200509/pawcast.zip
Read about it
15 • SUSE and few other things... (by Scott Wilson on 2005-09-05 20:21:32 GMT from United States)
Interesting, how popular SUSE is becoming. I was wondering if each new flavor should be spun off to its own page. Much like Fedora and Red Hat was. This is going to be interesting, will Novell kill off Suse Linux, force the users to Novell Desktop Linux or the community project?
I reloaded SUSE 9.3 last weekend, Suse is the only version of linux that is avalible to the average user from a retail stores in Phoenix Area. That way I could send some out to the store and "purchase" Linux. I could get it installed for them or help them get things working.
As for Katrina aftermath, its horrible. But there is an oppertunity for the Linux Community to help out.
China also has had a typhoon that has cause mass destruction and deaths. I also know Europe (Austria) is still cleaning up from the devasting floods, two weeks ago.
Help out wher you can.
16 • Mepis release (by Rune on 2005-09-05 20:25:52 GMT from Bolivia)
If I am not wrong, there will be a SimplyMepis release in 2005-09-XX. It is on the Mepis Webpage. Could that get on the "Summary of expected upcoming releases" ??
17 • Donations (by Rune on 2005-09-05 20:32:01 GMT from Bolivia)
I agree with Scott Wilson on the subject of donations. Distrowatch should focus on free software donation; we can all individually donate to disaster relief. The tsunami was exceptional due to the magnitude and the vulnerability of the victims.
18 • SUPER is not so super (by fnobths on 2005-09-05 20:34:05 GMT from United States)
I just downloaded SUPER and I didn't't care for it. I thought the install was a little hairy. I set up lilo to install on /dev/hda3 and it wiped out my MBR. (I have been using Linux for 6 years so I know how lilo is set up.) After it was installed it was no better or faster then any of the Linux distro's I've used. I think Arch is a lot faster. I thought Andreas Girardet did a good job on Yoper, but this is not so great. I know it is still beta but he still has a long way to go. One good thing was it ID my network card by it's proper name. I have a Netgear card and every Linux Distro ID's it as a National Semiconductor, no big deal, but nice.
On the other hand I finally tried Vector Linux 5.1, it was nice, no complainants there.
19 • RE: SUPER is not so super (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-05 21:06:46 GMT from Italy)
It seems that there is something badly wrong with SUSE 10.0 and derivatives when installing Grub or Lilo. I installed beta 3 "regular", I set up Grub to install to /dev/ha7 but it overwrote Grub on /dev/hda8 as well (where my main system, Kanotix resides)
I reported the bug and eventually they said it was my own mistake. Thank you very much, I have installed hundreds, possibly thousands of operating systems and I never had anything like that. I won't waste my time reporting bugs any longer.
20 • Super and Yoper (by andrew on 2005-09-05 21:45:48 GMT from Australia)
I wonder if Andreas' involvement in Super means the end of Yoper? For a while now Yoper website hasn't been very active, but the last bits of info I caught regarding the next release mentioned possible switch to Smart package manager... it would be a pity if Yoper stalled.
21 • Podcast. (by Shawn Milo on 2005-09-06 00:05:20 GMT from United States)
Sorry for the lack of a podcast last week -- there was a miscommunication, probably mostly my fault. Look for a new edition of the podcast this week, as well as an RSS feed.
22 • Donations (by Scott Wilson on 2005-09-06 00:24:38 GMT from United States)
Mostly, in the US the Red Cross is asking for Money. Not Stuff
Here in Phoenix as well in other states we have Sept 7, Tirol in Austria is having a telethon for the Flood victims in the Tirolean alps. China? Who knows.
Let Distrowatch pick Open Source projects to donate to. YOU pick a charity or Cause to make a PERSONEL donation to.
23 • SUSE future? (by Scott Wilson on 2005-09-06 00:32:42 GMT from United States)
So what do you all think SUSE future is?
Will Novell continue to offer Suse Professional and the Novell desktop Linux?
Kill off SUSE Professional force everyone to either the community base Open SUSE or their Enterprise Linux? Much like Fedora/Red Hat. Or will SUSE become, (dare I say it) like Debian and the base of countless off shoots as well as a its own strong Distro?
24 • Linspire (by Sauvage on 2005-09-06 00:57:19 GMT from United States)
Could anybody put a bittorrent of Linspire? It's impossible to download it. I've been trying to download it since early this morning, but no luck.
25 • RE: Linspire (by 1c3d0g on 2005-09-06 02:39:42 GMT from Aruba)
Here you go. This took me a while to track down...it's indeed very hard to get a Linspire .torrent
26 • Andreas Girardet (by hfb on 2005-09-06 05:13:19 GMT from United States)
...is a nut.
27 • Linspire-Torrent (by Anonymous on 2005-09-06 11:08:54 GMT from Germany)
I don't know if this is the newest version:
Taken from the german heise-forum
28 • podcast (by distroWatcher at 2005-09-06 16:05:01 GMT from Ukraine)
shawn milo -my superhiro!
29 • link to smart (by rob on 2005-09-06 16:50:39 GMT from United States)
The link to the "Smart package manager" is broken. I think it is just incorrect as I easily found the project via Google.
30 • Podcast feedback. (by Shawn Milo on 2005-09-06 17:18:42 GMT from United States)
distroWatcher -- thanks! Please leave any feedback here so that Ladislav and I can both read it. More podcasts will be coming!
If anyone has suggestions about podcasts (frequency, content, or whatever), let us know here!
Also, if anyone would like to volunteer to create original (podsafe) music for the intro or outro, please contact me at MiloCast at gmail.
By the way, I may start playing reader/listener voicemail in the podcast. You can record an mp3 or ogg with Audacity, or (in the US) call 1-206-3-D-WATCH (206-339-2824) and leave a message, which will be sent to us as an electronic file. The quality's not great, so record your own if you have the equipment.
31 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2005-09-06 20:19:58 GMT from Germany)
There's a nice Article by Alan N. Canton on Linux com featuring my favourite distro.. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/08/31/1533252
32 • Re: Super and Yoper (by Ariszló on 2005-09-06 21:25:29 GMT from Hungary)
I wonder if Andreas' involvement in Super means the end of Yoper?
Yoper is now a community distribution and the team is quite active. Find how recent the developer packages, not yet ready for mass consumption, are:
(mirrors: http://www.yoper.com/download.html )
33 • Andreas (by wary at 2005-09-07 05:02:35 GMT from Australia)
Be wary of donating your time and energy to this guy.. He seems to enjoy conflict and being abusive.
Once bitten, twice shy.
34 • RE: Article by Alan N. Canton (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-07 05:43:09 GMT from Italy)
It is my favorite too...
35 • Mandriva screenshot without permission (by istoyanov on 2005-09-07 07:34:45 GMT from Bulgaria)
Thanks for another GREAT ISSUE of Distrowatch Weekly!!!
And a quick note:
"You don't have permission to access /images/screenshots/mandriva-2006-beta3.png on this server."
36 • Donations (by Mike on 2005-09-07 11:29:53 GMT from United Kingdom)
May I suggest libogg / libvorbis. I understand ogg playback still needs optimisation. As you're using ogg in your podcast, it makes sense.
37 • donations and more..!! (by KiM on 2005-09-07 12:43:45 GMT from Egypt)
here is another good monday with distro...thank u..
i fully agree with your point of view to support Enlightment as a very inspiring project...
alsothanks for Linspire for this opportunity although i got it a month ago.. and wishing all good luck to Freespire now known as squiggleOS.. hope to try it very soon..
38 • Re: Freespire...... (by Distrowatch Fan and more fan) (by Andrew Betts on 2005-09-07 14:00:03 GMT from United Kingdom)
Thanks for the support. :)
Let's hope the next release lasts longer than 3 days ;)
39 • Podcast (by Andrew Betts on 2005-09-07 14:19:42 GMT from United Kingdom)
Love the podcast.
I'm a lazy reader and it is always nice to have audio versions of stuff.
40 • No subject (by Me on 2005-09-07 17:38:45 GMT from Germany)
Anonymous Penguin: if its your favorite Distro do not google for Benix. And if you are searching a lean and fast Installation do never ever under no Circumstances download CORPIX. Might be you would be convinced to change your Mind.
41 • Podcast (by Mark at 2005-09-07 17:55:50 GMT from United States)
Like the idea of podcasting the Weekly but is there a RSS/XML so I can subscribe?? IMHO, the true power of podcasting has to be its automatic d/l via an aggregator.
42 • RE: No subject (by Me) (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-07 18:59:56 GMT from Italy)
LOL! I am always glad to try new distros and willing to change my mind if I find something *really good*
That is how I found Kanotix after all.
43 • CORPIX (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-07 20:27:58 GMT from Italy)
And BTW, I had already tried the beta of CORPIX (CPX-Mini) and I was rather disappointed: no way I could make pppoe work. Kano's script doesn't work and I couldn't compile rp-pppoe (no compilers)
As to Benix it was recommended by Kano himself here:
I didn't try it because it is based on a oldish version of Kanotix (I need at least Kernel 2.6.12 for all my hardware to work)
Anyway everything can be found here:
44 • Podcast! (by LinuxHungry on 2005-09-08 02:51:21 GMT from United States)
The podcast was great. Thanks.
45 • Ging (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-08 04:45:12 GMT from Italy)
On my P4 box it took exactly 1 hour and 25 minutes from startup to shutdown. I had a fully functional Gnome only for about 5 minutes and all I did was opening a terminal and printing "uname -a"
46 • DWW Podcast XML (by Shawn Milo on 2005-09-08 13:08:36 GMT from United States)
Yes, there is an XML feed as of this week. Check the top of this page for the XML link.
As of now, there is only an XML feed for the mp3 file, not the ogg. That's because most portable players don't play ogg. :o(
If some of you use an aggregator AND have a portable player which supports the ogg format, let us know and we'll create a separate ogg XML feed.
47 • re: Donations (by Anon Doofer on 2005-09-08 21:34:53 GMT from United States)
Donations (by Rune on 2005-09-05 20:32:01 GMT from Bolivia)
I agree with Scott Wilson on the subject of donations. Distrowatch should focus on free software donation; we can all individually donate to disaster relief. The tsunami was exceptional due to the magnitude and the vulnerability of the victims.
I agree with Scott too, but this last sentence is the most ignorant and callous statement I've read in a very long time.
48 • elive for *really* old hardware? (by butters on 2005-09-08 22:14:17 GMT from United States)
First, thanks for donating to the Enlightenment project. I think they bring a lot to the table when it comes to chipping away at the desktop linux enigma from the bottom up.
Has anyone tried ELive on a machine with 64MB of RAM and no preexisting swap partition? Should I even bother?
49 • Not setup for RSS (by Anonymous on 2005-09-09 03:38:25 GMT from United States)
FYI: Loving the mp3 of the podcast!!!!!!!!!
PS: you rock Ladislav Bodnar.
50 • VLOS 1.2.1-rc1 (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-09 12:33:10 GMT from Italy)
This release sounds like a sincere gesture of good will.
I have been a harsh critic, but now I hope they can redeem themselves.
51 • Super (by گä†ü®ñ on 2005-09-10 02:21:58 GMT from United States)
There is NO WAY I will ever think that SuSE is anything of a "Super OS", Why just not too long ago, I had SuSE Inc themselves send me a copy of 9.3 Professional, trying to praise as to how good their product was, and I need to switch, blah blah blah. I was like "Ok, I will give it the Debian Taste Test - Distro Challange" and see which Distro outdid which. Hands down, Debian ROCKED the hell out of SuSE. Why, as a matter of fact, it only took me 45 Minutes before I actually snapped that CD of SuSE in half and swore I would NEVER use another version of their distro again.
So, as far as I am concerned...... SuSE.....never had it...never will!!!!
52 • Re: Super (by Ariszló on 2005-09-10 03:34:54 GMT from Hungary)
Now everybody will know that you prefer Debian to SuSE. And nobody will know why?
53 • Re: Re: Freespire...... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-10 04:44:00 GMT from Italy)
Keep up the good work, Andrew :)
I also very much hope that the next release can be installed.
54 • Re: Re: Super (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-10 04:54:18 GMT from Italy)
"Now everybody will know that you prefer Debian to SuSE. And nobody will know why?"
Lol, personally I tend to like both, even if I give Debian the edge.
However I give SUSE to newbies, I find it more suitable.
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