| DistroWatch Weekly
|DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 115, 29 August 2005
Welcome to this year's 35th issue of DistroWatch Weekly. Plenty of media hype about Asianux last week, but is the project worth the attention? We doubt it and we'll tell you why. We have not done a book review before, but we couldn't resist one in this edition after we found ourselves infatuated with Dru Lavigne's BSD Hacks, an excellent collection of superb tips for administering BSD operating systems. Also in this issue: an interview with Jay Klepacs, the founder and lead developer of aLinux, and the usual regular departments. Happy reading!
Asianux - is the hype justified?
The launch of Asianux 2.0 last week has attracted much attention in the Linux and computing media around the Internet. This is easy to understand - the idea of creating a common base and unified standards, with support for the complex writing systems of the countries of East Asia, Asianux certainly looks like a step in the right direction. The project has also been embraced by Oracle and some hardware manufacturers as one of the key Linux players, alongside Red Hat and Novell, to include in the testing and support infrastructure.
But is Asianux really what it claims to be - a pan-Asian panacea for high cost of proprietary software licenses and a universal solution for Asian computer users? As it stands now, we highly doubt it - for two reasons: lack of openness and non-participation of other important Linux players in Asia.
The lack of openness is most alarming. The Asianux web site is a haphazardly designed portal, with broken links, annoying Flash animation, badly formatted press releases, and plenty of self-praise for being an "extreme success" and for becoming "one of the three major Linux server distributions in the world". Similar unfounded statements litter the Asianux web site - while, at the same time, its Success Story page remains amazingly bare.
Despite a so-called "release" of Asianux 2.0 last week, the distribution is nowhere to be had. Its download page still links to Asianux 1.0 ISO images and no public beta testing process preceded the product launch. Similarly, there is no depository of RPM packages and no source code available for download. Even worse, with the exception of the self-glorifying and poorly formatted press release, the Asianux web site provides no information about the product's features. Bug reporting facilities and security notification infrastructure are also absent from the site.
Granted, Asianux is meant to serve as a base system upon which the three participating companies - Red Flag Software, Miracle Linux and Haansoft - build their own products. Yet, one cannot but feel disappointed about the secrecy with which the project presents its development work - instead of openly inviting Asian users, developers and companies to participate in the development process, all work on Asianux takes place behind closed doors. This not only goes against the spirit of Linux and Free Software, it is also against the interest of Asian Linux users.
Thus the only publicly available product based on Asianux 2.0 at this time is a beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0, released last week. Downloadable from a single (i.e. extremely slow) FTP server, this is a desktop Linux distribution where Red Flag stubbornly continues in its effort to turn Linux into a Windows clone (see screenshot below). That's not to say that it is a bad product; perhaps somewhat outdated and without a good office suite, but nevertheless very usable, with solid support for simplified Chinese and other conveniences that make Red Flag Linux just about as usable as Microsoft Windows on the desktop - and that can't be a bad thing.
Red Flag Linux 5.0 - the first distribution release based on Asianux 2.0
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The beta release of Red Flag Linux 5.0 Desktop aside, the sad truth is that Asianux is not one of the three major Linux distributions in the world, not even close. In its current state, Asianux is little else than hype spread by the three commercial companies involved in the project. And unless the responsible parties fix their half-broken web site, open up the project for public participation, and invite other major Asian players to join in, Asianux is unlikely to become anything but overhyped and glorified vapourware, a fate so similar to the failed United Linux.
|Book review: BSD Hacks by Dru Lavigne
BSD Hacks by Dru Lavigne
Unlike books about Linux, those devoted to the BSD family of operating systems tend to be much less plentiful on the shelves of book stores. Luckily though, they also tend to be written by authors who are not only well-known experts possessing a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge about the BSDs, but who also emanate genuine love for their chosen operating system. Such is the case of O'Reilly's BSD Hacks by Dru Lavigne.
Published in May 2004, BSD Hacks promises to deliver 100 industrial-strength tips & tools. These are divided into 9 chapters, starting with customising the user environment, then continuing with tips for file management, booting, backups, and networking. Next is the all-important chapter on improving security of your BSD-based server, before the book dwells into more advanced topics and a software update chapter.
But the order of chapters is not important, for this is one book that few people will read from cover to cover. Rather, it is a reference book, a collection of amazingly good tips that make your life with a BSD operating system so much more enjoyable and productive. Even if you are not looking for a particular tip, it is always fun simply to open up the book on a random page and go through the hack on the page - you are bound to learn something and, more often than not, you'll find yourself rushing towards your computer to put your newly-acquired knowledge into practice.
I found the login and security chapters particularly valuable. The login chapter has an excellent discussion on how to protect system passwords with Blowfish or how to use crack to monitor your user's compliance with the password policy. Another valuable tip teaches you how to create and use one-time passwords. The security chapter goes further into these topics by presenting tips on protecting files with flags and mandatory access control, encryption, generating automated firewall rules, and securing wireless networks. These tips are not only excellent in educating users and system administrators, they are also well explained and easy to follow.
One hundred hacks might look like not much, but in reality, many of them are composed of several sub-hacks and related information, and they represent a complete chapter. After all, the book has more than 400 pages. The vast majority of tips are command line hacks, with only the very last tip dealing with some of the utilities that ship with XFree86 or X.Org. The hacks are general enough to apply to all BSD systems, but if a certain hack is only applicable to one or two of the BSDs, it is clearly stated.
There is very little that we didn't like about this book. BSD Hacks is an amazing collection of excellent tips and timesavers, presented in a clear style and the usual superb readability of O'Reilly's books. It has plenty to offer to anybody, except perhaps seasoned BSD experts, although even they would probably discover a few valuable tips. And Linux users don't have to shy away from this book either; although many of these tips might not be applicable (without modification) to a Linux system, much can be learned from the philosophy and security practices of the three main BSD operating systems.
I highly recommend Dru Lavigne's BSD Hacks. This is, without a shadow of a doubt, one of the most valuable and indispensable books I bought in quite a few years.
|Interview: Jay Klepacs, aLinux
Interview: Jay Klepacs, aLinux|
aLinux (formerly Peanut Linux) is an interesting distribution that has been getting increased coverage in recent weeks. With its superb multimedia support, bleeding-edge software packages, and controversial desktop wallpapers, aLinux has succeeded in attracting interest of a diverse group of people - from Linux hackers to Microsoft lawyers. Jay Klepacs, the founder and lead developer of aLinux, was kind enough to answer a few questions about aLinux - in his typical eccentric and verbose fashion.
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DW: Jay, thank you very much for your time. First, can you tell us a bit about yourself? We know that you live in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada and that you dislike Microsoft Windows, but that's about it. How old are you? And what do you do for living?
JK: I have lived my life in Steel City Canada for a little over 33 years - born in the sun sign of Libra on October 16, 1971.
For a living, good question. Nothing much, just living by the hand of God is all I require. We have a blues band here in Hamilton, we call ourselves "Star Angel", but hardly play much now that I'm crazily infatuated and fascinated with computers (O: ...... but we still seldom get to play and dig it when we do. Nothing updated but here's some Musical Jams of us collecting dust now - hence the name *Jam* has nothing to do with it :O).
Computer speak: Microsoft - I do like. I love everyone. Life would have been mad without MS-DOS (p: that they made my life more enjoyable. I used Microsoft Windows right up until 1996 (the beginning of the USB era). Win95 4.00.950a to be exact was my last purchase, then retired back full-time to Unixes again that same year.
Differences though, sure. Nothing major. I myself, in general, am extremely open-minded and giving, which is naturally leading me further to unite with Open Source communities. I try always to achieve positive up-front relationships with software authors, be it Microsoft, etc. I have many friends and colleagues who still happily work for the well-established Microsoft Corporation. Sure, we joke around both ways in good sense but bashing MS versus Unix nonsense never happens, no hatred from either side. I know too well that Microsoft loves to use our Open Source variety of Unixes, this mainly includes Solaris but Linux as well! Any well experienced phreaker or hacker knows this.
P.S. Hope I did not hurt anyone by that comment. I really believe in being true to our nature. We should never hide the truth, even so - if it means less monopoly. Did i say that out loud ;-p *just kidding*.
DW: aLinux (and Peanut Linux before that) has been around since 1999 (correct?). Please tell us about the beginnings of your distribution.
JK: The name Peanut Linux evolved in late 1996 but was not licensed and released until early 1999. Comparable to an all-time favorite inspiring MINIX operating system, which set the bases in mind for Peanut Linux, this indulged me to base Peanut Linux on the next best thing - Debian GNU/Linux, which right away become Peanut's basis for that initial release with the full-fledged KDE desktop. Later I started basing to DOSLINUX which is now called LOOPLINUX and over time removed all remnants of Debian SystemV to what we fully utilize today in aLinux is the BSD style script. This change was necessary to help new users understand and modify their Unix/Minix-like system with ease. Not that the developer is a dummy :O), but BSD is just easier to understand.
DW: With hundreds of distributions around, the lifespan of most of them is measured in months rather than years. Luckily, aLinux is different. What motivates you to keep developing new versions? Have you ever thought about giving up and doing something else?
JK: I've always been content building aLinux with strict 386 compiler optimizations stripping all debug code from every aspect so we end up with the smallest stable binary available. No other operating system I've seen even attempts this. Well, Debian sort of does but it's very unique to aLinux. Our kernel is built for 586 because OpenGL video acceleration cards require this, but a simple rebuild of aLinux kernel using 386 math co-processor support will allow anyone with a 386-386SX/DX computer and 24MB RAM to fully run the system without KDE. Sure, KDE will boot with a large swap but it's still too slow to multi-task so FVWM, Fluxbox, IceWM or XFce become the perfect choice. Disable any services like MySQL, etc. and you have yourself a killer totally up-to-date system running on the old 386 with full usable server/client solution HTTP/FTP/SSH running out of the box. KDE is comparable to Microsoft Windows so requirements are more CPU and memory but the stock aLinux 12.5 kernel runs on a 486DX right now. In the past, I built strictly for 686 optimization and I've never seen any speed inscreases, just many people posed problems not being able to run it on their 586.
Just like I always wondered what had happen to Storm Linux, etc. myself. Who they were, what are they now and what-not. I have seen some other interests over time and wondered myself about the future. But hey, now without a doubt it's the "thing that's just in" L i n u x! The future is now and the software is at its brightest prime ever. It's pulling on the conglomerates' wallet now, e.g. Microsoft". The open source movement says it all. Hardware vendors really need to trust and support us for the product is now for it to really kick in full tilt. We can't all be greedy.
Unity shall prevail, but vendors need patience with us too - API changes so much in Linux and this is part of our plague too. I'd love for things in this order to slow or remain still [1.] kernel 2.6, [2.] glibc, [3.] GCC - so hardware vendors can catch-up and in turn Linux is success. We also need fewer distributions, yes no aLinux, no blah blah distributions so corporate vendors don't feel so claustrophobic when it comes to managing hardware. We should focus one kernel - this scares me myself and all I do is try to figure out which is the best fit for desktop users. Seems 2.6 is perfect for desktops, 2.4. for servers, the others dropped now or drop all and keep either 2.4 or 2.6 just one to help vendors and find an API!!! Anyways - yes i blab for hours but something needs to be done and hopefully kernel developers see this. I usually just get hate mail from some when confronting issues - suggestions. Open Source = Open Minds as well.
DW: Possibly the best-loved feature of aLinux is its pre-configured ability to play a large range of media files out of the box, even within the Mozilla browser. Can you tell us more about this?
JK: Entertainment studio - watch DVD/TV on your PC today!
Sure, with me being the media nut, I've come to be - I've always had this "I want it all now media attitude". So our goal and key focus with aLinux is to deliver to the user the same on-going experiment. Online/offline multimedia explosion, i.e. let's start with having the best of what we can to meet or exceed needs of what a regular desktop Windows or Mac user has already.
We achieve this by using some 500 or more jam-packed popular media based libraries available to us online!
In brief, these static streams run inside Konqueror web browser using the KMPlayer front-end for our well-known and transparent to user Win32 DLLs which help us with Sorenson1, 2, 3, QuickTime, DiVX/WMV Windows Media, Real Player G2, 10x, Plus, Shockwave/Flash and tons more. Some backends used transparently with KMPlayer include MPLayer, Xine, GSTreamer, liveMedia, Xmms, so-on.
Some might say - big deal, my computer is too slow to playback audio and music - how about latencies with audio/video? Well, for even the slowest of computer systems and for us, professionals, who need a box to record, play, stream, burn just say VCD, DVD, MP3, CDA, etc., we give that user every available audio/video input/output plug-in to control this in a efficient way. This meets and exceeds many multimedia boxes available for free or purchase out there now and is more for the experienced then anything, but the power is there, so let's use it!
DW: Many of these media players, libraries and media formats (e.g. the libdvdcss library for playing encrypted DVDs on Linux) are either illegal or may be patented in the USA and some other countries. What is your opinion on this? Do you worry that some day a law firm will contact you and demand that you comply with the law, or even worse, sue you?
Very good question. Proprietary software patents have been plaguing us with an on-going battle thus far. As is their right to do so. My belief in freedom is to give whatever you have to someone else if you already have plenty or can spare it. I answer many emails and give CDs away at an alarming rate freely to third-world and under-developed countries or just anyone who cannot afford but sparks interest in Peanut/aLinux.
Something like this. I barely sell my distribution as it is since I don't act on marketing. It's a hobby. But with some "proprietary" data inside of aLinux that is not GPL - most is well-known and patented as "Free Software" and given the license terms and conditions, most is our right to distribute/sell any which way we decide, as long as the original authors' names are included in contact, etc. The reality is that this, in turn, creates sales and donations for them, period. Sorry, I have no control over other countries' jurisdiction, but everybody still goes ahead, gets what they want, unless they are insanely religious. No offence in any way to those filled with God's love and peace - but never let the devil rob you blind!
If a license changes and I'm asked to remove a certain piece of software - bang, it's gone and re-packaged for download with details to install from my site. You see, by including such software in a distribution you help minimize the pain of installing it later - for instance, if it's not in a distribution, users are going to get it one way or another, since it's all known as free software anyhow. This also saves the original authors the heartache and pain of questions users would ask on how to install certain software and configure it with the various distributions.
Sorry if I come across as naive and/or narrowminded on this matter but i feel we should all give if we have something to give whether it slightly infringes but not harms the other physically in any way.
DW: Why Mozilla and not Firefox?
JK: Yes, Firefox/Thunderbird has some really nice features we can't build into Mozilla like its better tabbed browsing, but I've grown accustomed to Mozilla and still use features like:
That and Firefox is still inside Mozilla - there really is no Firefox source available - it's mozilla-src* and the default build is always Mozilla, although they've been pushing Firefox for some time now, but building Firefox requires Mozilla source (O: not a big deal.
- HTML Composer Editor - quickly fixes my syntax errors (O:
- IRC Chatzilla - comes in handy for certain web content.
- News/Mail Reader - I use these a lot still and am trying to merge myself into KNews/KMail clients but keep going back and forth. Yes, Firefox/Thunderbird are even nice choices, some will say.
--enable-application=suite (gives us Mozilla, Mail, News, Composer, Chatzilla, Calendar)
--enable-application=browser,mail (gives us Firefox, Thunderbird)
If I even had one request to date, I would have added Firefox/Thunderbird, but nobody has mentioned it to me until now :o), if I'm remembering correctly -hehe.
DW: What other features do you think are the most attractive part of aLinux?
JK: Our small and tiny, but friendly community we can call home and hang/chat it up: irc://irc.freenode.net/aLinux
Oh and 'mc', our Midnight Commander - text-based file management utility. Yes it has been there since day 1 and has become a tradition. Hey, we can even play every video and audio right from 'mc' - bet some people didn't know that :o)
DW: Does aLinux use a stock kernel or do you patchit? If you use patches, which ones?
JK: Standard patches designed to improve system response time. In order of choice:
- CK Set. Con Kolivas. Well-known brilliant kernel hacker and practicing doctor in Australia.
- CK(O) Set. Currently used in aLinux 12.5, Con Kolivas patched into overload, but I can't find the author now, seems to have left the project. But the extra patches provide no speed enhancements just some eye-candy.
- Once in a while when available and known stable, I will try the NITRO set, which is very similar to CK (Overloaded) but he's disappeared or works for Gentoo now, I believe.
DW: aLinux (and Peanut Linux) has always been a curious mix of applications, some of the pretty outdated, while others straight from the developers' bleeding-edge CVS repositories. Why is this?
It's on my to-do list of chores, thank you. This mixed nut = mixed apps :-p, it's generations of madness in the RPM repository which really shows up even scarier now with Synaptic :O). However, a clean-up is starting to happen, but slow as usual.
CVS - yes, an addiction that's finally fading from me. Really, I just browse changelogs and if i see something like over a stable version or the author recommends to me to go with CVS/Subversion, I listen. Why not, well, for an enterprise system I would never do such a thing even I'd make sure drivers are certified, but desktop Linux systems - what better place then to run bleeding-edge once in a while :) You, see, we all know stable apps have bugs too sometimes so CVS has them too ;O)
DW: Anything you wish to say to our readers? Do you need help with developing or promoting aLinux? What is your preferred communication medium with your users? If I find a bug where do I report it?
JK: Yes, yes and more YES :O). I'd be grateful for any help like people we can get together to tone down API changes, my words mean nothing or anything you can think of to key vendors talking to kernel/glibc/GCC to slow it down or I'll turn 100 tomorrow and still not have my hardware running ;-) OK i sounded like my German foreign background there (really, it's not that bad - most computers run Linux without a hitch but vendors are crying for help only we can't give it because things change so quickly in open source) yes it's super, but ...kay I'm going to shush now ... lol...
Communication (+1 (905) 524 3805) mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org. Bug reports to the address above plus help forum or the IRC channel which can be found on site. Yes - newbies, young, old, inexperienced, experienced, crazy or just curious about Linux are welcome into our small, friendly community. There are no qualifications - we are all very simple helping people. I myself have split personalities (manic depression) and so on, but I'm harmless to say the least and love God!
I'd like to end by gracefully thanking you, Ladislav, for listening and giving me the time to express. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Peace, grace, happiness and a God bless all!
I'd also like to mention some friends who really help out if you don't mind. They would be grateful and all have something to do with Linux/aLinux:
- Clint Christopher, Canada (wanderer on the aLinux forum) working on: pnutproject (co-developer)
- Craig Squires (videoguy on the alinux forum) working on: pnutproject (founder)
- Galen Thurber (sponsors and hosts the aLinux forum)
- SPOVER by Bengt Lundmark hosting and linux reviews started in 1998
- India Idew Solutions, I can't find their email address but they help us
DW: Jay, thank you very much for talking to us and good luck with your project!
|Released Last Week
Gibraltar Firewall 2.3
Gibraltar Firewall 2.3 has been released. From the changelog: "This is a feature release with two major new features now being fully supported by the web interface: briding (a.k.a. as transparent firewalling) and traffic shaping. Both can be enabled with the respective modules in the web interface. Other changes in the web interface include a quick configuration save link, new service definitions that can now span different protocols (e.g. an IPSec service that include UDP, ESP and AH), the possibility to configure an email relay (e.g. a smart host by the ISP), and some enhancements when integrating a hard disk drive for /var."
Knopperdisk is a Gentoo-based distribution designed to run from a USB storage device. A new version was released today: "Knopperdisk 0.3.1 released! This is a huge update with package updates everywhere. The kernel version being used is 18.104.22.168, no X-server has been added yet, for those wondering. Short summary of changes: added Screen; updated Gentoo's baselayout package which improves configuration a lot (network, wireless); updated Bash (3.00), udev (058), ClamAV + recent virus definitions, Samba (3.0.14a), iptables (1.3.2), links (2.1pre17), Nmap (3.81); updated several file system tools (ext2/ext3, XFS, JFS)." Find more details on the project's news page.
A new version of Monoppix, a Knoppix-based live CD with the goal to showcase and spread the Mono technology, has been released. From the release notes: "The main new features of v1.1.8 are: mono 1.1.8, libgdiplus 1.1.8, xsp 1.0.9, monodevelop 0.7. Additions: MPlayer to allow viewing our tutorials from Monoppix, hello world video tutorial included in the image. Notes: native mono Windows.Forms class libraries are available without WINE thanks to Mono's v1.1.8 implementation."
Overclockix 3.79 has been released: "An all new Overclockix ISO hits the net today! This one features prelinking, KDE 3.4.2, and many new tools. Build 3.79 is the first Overclockix ISO ever with the boinc DC project, also now with apt-build and the beginnings of optimizing select packages for i686. This ISO has the LTSP/wine folding service found in Overclockix LTSP_2.1, with many improvements thanks to co-developer Overdoze. Also included is my own Linux folding@home service, which you can try out as an alternative. I skipped on some of the more recent Knoppix builds due to bugs with Unionfs and broken captive-ntfs support, but I have been planning a limited edition DVD release based on Knoppix 4.0." Read the rest of the release announcement on the project's home page.
A new version of Overclockix was released last week
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B2D Linux 20050825
B2D Linux is a Taiwanese Linux distribution and live CD with a complete support for the traditional Chinese character set. Two new editions were released yesterday - "PureGNOME" with GNOME 2.8.1 and "PureKDE" with KDE 3.3.2. Rather than updating software packages, most of the development effort focused on fixing existing bugs; these include some software-related problems after hard disk installation and after creating non-root users. New kernel modules for wireless networking were also added. The "PureKDE" edition comes with a Windows-like desktop theme, while the "PureGNOME" edition defaults to a theme resembling Mac OS. Read the full release announcement (in Chinese) for further details.
B2D Linux 20050825 "PureGNOME" edition with a MacOS-like desktop theme
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IPCop Firewall 1.4.8
A new version of IPCop Firewall has been released. What's new? "Installer: fix ata_piix SATA support, fix PCMCIA installation and network card detection with floppy boot, nn floppy boot install, shift search to allow usage of mounted loop ISO. Changes in update: fix modules.conf is more recent than modules.dep, fix support with SMP new kernel and SCSI driver, complete the menu options for the old kernel like for the most recent kernel, workaround for flash disk with limited /boot size...." Read the release notes for a complete list of changes.
Linux-EduCD is a KANOTIX-based live CD developed by Poland's SIMP Studium Techniki. It focuses on education, graphics, office and multimedia use and is designed specifically for use in Polish educational institutions. A new updated version was released yesterday. Most important changes include: upgrade to kernel 22.214.171.124, improved installer, better data compression with SquashFS, improved support for ADSL modems and laptops, new scripts for installing NVIDIA and ATI graphics drivers, KDE 3.4.1 from Debian's experimental repository, OpenOffice.org 1.9.121.... Read the release announcement (in Polish) for more details.
pocketlinux is a new Slackware-based distribution created by former developers of the Bonzai Linux distribution. Its main features are a simplified Slackware installer, one application per task, and KDE Light desktop. Version 1.2 was released over the weekend: "pocketlinux 1.2 has been released. There are only minor changes so there is no real need to upgrade: added ppp and rp-pppoe packages for easier ADSL setup; added sudo to make system shutdown possible for users within the system group 'users'; added shutdown button to the panel start menu; removed unnecessary build overhead...." Read the rest of the release announcement for more details.
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Development and unannounced releases
|Upcoming Releases and Announcements
Slackware Linux 10.2 is now available for pre-order from the Slackware Store. The product description has not been updated and there is no information about the release date, but we know the price of the official 4-CD set: US$39.95.
NetBSD 2.1 and 3.0
Matthias Scheler has published an updated release schedule for the upcoming releases of NetBSD: "On behalf of NetBSD's release engineering team I would like to provide you with an update on our current estimated timelines for the NetBSD 2.1 and NetBSD 3.0 releases." NetBSD 2.1 is scheduled for release on 10th or 17th September, while NetBSD 3.0 is expected in October.
Games Knoppix DVD
The Games Knoppix project has announced the upcoming release of a Games Knoppix DVD, scheduled to be released "during the next three week": "There will be a new DVD-sized release of the Games Knoppix during the next three weeks. I'll post the list of included games as soon as possible." Visit the project's home page to read the announcement.
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Summary of expected upcoming releases
- 2005-08-30: Progeny Debian 3.0 PR4
- 2005-08-31: NetBSD 2.1 Release Candidate 1
- 2005-09-01: SUSE Linux 10.0 beta4
- 2005-09-08: Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Preview
- 2005-09-09: SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1
- 2005-09-10: NetBSD 2.1 Release Candidate 2
- 2005-09-15: Frugalware Linux 0.3rc1
- 2005-09-15: Mandriva Linux 2006 Official
- 2005-09-17: NetBSD 2.1
- 2005-09-19: Progeny Debian 3.0 RC1
- 2005-09-26: Progeny Debian 3.0
- 2005-09-28: NetBSD 3.0 Release Candidate 1
- 2005-09-29: Frugalware Linux 0.3rc2
- 2005-09-XX: FreeBSD 5.5
- 2005-09-XX: FreeBSD 6.0-RC1
- 2005-09-XX: FreeBSD 6.0
- 2005-09-XX: SUSE Linux 10.0
- 2005-10-01: Symphony OS Beta 1
- 2005-10-06: Ubuntu Linux 5.10 Release Candidate
- 2005-10-13: Frugalware Linux 0.3
- 2005-10-13: Ubuntu Linux 5.10
- 2005-10-XX: NetBSD 3.0
- 2005-11-07: Fedora Core 5 Test1
- 2005-12-12: Fedora Core 5 Test2
- 2006-01-09: Fedora Core 5 Test3
- 2006-02-13: Fedora Core 5
|Web Site News
New distribution additions|
New distributions on the waiting list
- CrisTuX. CrisTuX is a Spanish Linux distribution based on Debian GNU/Linux, with Free Software and links related to Christianity.
- JaCL Linux. JaCL Linux (Just a Command Line Linux) is a Knoppix-based live CD distribution of the Linux operating system. JaCL Linux is designed to be run as a command line-driven server or utility system. Most major command line applications and server software available in a standard Linux distribution are available in JaCL Linux. Examples of server and utility uses for JaCL include web server, FTP server, DNS server, Samba server, rsync server, syslog server, local disk mirroring utility, remote rsync disk mirroring utility and hardware diagnostics utility.
- Myah. Myah is a Linux live CD based on Slackware and SLAX, enhanced by many popular desktop applications.
DistroWatch database summary
That's all for this week. We hope you've enjoyed this issue of DistroWatch Weekly!
1 • No subject (by war on 2005-08-29 14:33:01 GMT from United States) |
A little late, but better than never!
2 • Freespire discontinued ? (by Davide on 2005-08-29 14:41:37 GMT from Italy)
What happen with Freespire ? What kind of problem did this distro have ?
3 • RE: Freespire (by ladislav on 2005-08-29 14:45:33 GMT from Taiwan)
I don't know, he didn't specify exactly what "problems" he had with the distribution.
4 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2005-08-29 15:08:27 GMT from United Kingdom)
Do you think linspire pulled a winblows in them?
5 • last week's distro's (by fred brockman on 2005-08-29 15:22:31 GMT from United States)
re:Freespire--Linspire didn't like it. Payback is murder!!!
re::alinux--couldn't get it to install on my machine, it would only load 60percent and then I got eof's errors. I have 160 meg hard drive and 512 megs of ram.
6 • love the read! (by lefty.crupps on 2005-08-29 15:27:45 GMT from United States)
ladislav, always a good monday morning, thank you!
war: you writing something weekly that needs unnecessary criticism?
7 • Thanks (by Anon on 2005-08-29 15:29:22 GMT from United States)
Dear Ladislav: just wanted to thank you for "Distrowatch" and maintaining at very good level of quality and quantity of content. thanks!
8 • distroweekly (by KiM on 2005-08-29 16:21:15 GMT from Egypt)
its fantastic reading this effort every week i just want to thank u... i would like to try redflag but can i find it in english..??
9 • DistroWatch is excellent (by William Roddy on 2005-08-29 16:44:43 GMT from United States)
Thank you very much for providing this excellent, consisten, regular service.
10 • no (by war on 2005-08-29 16:49:13 GMT from United States)
no criticism, distrowatch is like a drug, I miss it when the time of release deviates ever so slightly :)
11 • one mistake (by gabe on 2005-08-29 17:19:51 GMT from United States)
I noticed that Suse Beta release 9/09 is shown before Ubuntu's release 9/08. Thanks for the most excellent reading!
12 • Great Job! (by |TG|Mateo on 2005-08-29 17:53:10 GMT from United States)
As always.....look forward too it every Monday.
Say, isn't pocket Linux the first distro with Simple KDE as the default?
13 • DCC (by random on 2005-08-29 18:19:54 GMT from United States)
Ladislav another fine issue. I would to see more on the DCC effort. I did use Progeny for awile and the goals were good ones. However for a desktop to track behind Sarge just did not work out for me. I am still interested in where they are going.
14 • donations (by bhrich902 on 2005-08-29 18:32:07 GMT from United States)
maybe next donation should go to distrowatch, *wink* *wink*, *nudge* *nudge* :)
15 • Freepsire (by Moe on 2005-08-29 18:53:30 GMT from United States)
Freespire ran just fine on my old Dell. It recognized my wireless and we were off and running. I did notice when you shrank the bottom menu line the "L" showed up in place of the "F" on the launch button.
Hmmmm.. I'd love to hear the real story on this distro. In the meantime I'm keeping my copy in a safe place.
16 • Re: Freespire (by Andrew on 2005-08-29 19:27:30 GMT from Canada)
Note that the Freespire developer has made it difficult for anyone to "fix" his distro by removing the download. If anyone's interested, here's a .torrent for Freespire: http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=531&name=freespire.iso.torrent
17 • pocketlinux (by Rabyte at 2005-08-29 19:59:54 GMT from Germany)
The link to pocketlinux links to the wrong distro, here's the right one: http://gnulinux.de/pocketlinux/
There's also a short review on the web, unfortunately I can't find the link right now.
18 • pocketlinux (by Rabyte on 2005-08-29 20:02:14 GMT from Germany)
Or this one :-)
19 • pocketLinux (by klhrevolutionist on 2005-08-29 20:03:19 GMT from United States)
I can tell distrowatch that pocketlinux is way better than slax
it is an easy to use distro. I'm glad someone finally released a distro with just one app per task! Now I can add what I want!!!
I hope the best to pocketlinux and thank distrowatch for sticking it up on the board!!!!!
20 • A GREAT THANKS!!!!!!!!!!! (by John Ceulemans on 2005-08-29 21:49:00 GMT from Netherlands)
A Great Big Thanks for Another read of `Distrowatch Weekly`,
Thank You Ladislav!!
Greetings to all!
21 • Freespire (by ChiJoan on 2005-08-29 22:44:27 GMT from United States)
Thanks for trying, but it would've been better to fork off Linspire 4.5 since Linspire 5 left my Via-C3 700mhz and Intel P3 500mhz out of the running. Or are they going to do a Linspire 5 Lite Version for us? If they aren't, then maybe they'll OK this project and maybe help it with backports or whatever.
Thanks for another great Monday with the DistroWatch Weekly. I have to take a look at Pocket Linux, too.
22 • Woah!!! PocketLinux looks exactly what I needed! (by 1c3d0g on 2005-08-29 22:50:45 GMT from Aruba)
Damn! PocketLinux looks pretty awesome! I always wanted a distro like that. Small (but still with KDE), one app per task (like Unix philosophy) etc.... I was even thinking of starting my own distro because I haven't seen any distro with those principles, but now I'm glad I found PocketLinux. Can't wait to try it out... ;-)
23 • Another great read! (by Scott Wilson on 2005-08-30 01:14:12 GMT from United States)
I realy hated my morning cup of coffee and no Distrowatch to read. But, I had just got done reading this week edition with my second most favorite beverage: Beer!
BSD Hacks, book review nice, but like with many of the Linux flavors, there are many flavors of commands.
Jay Kelpacs interview was a very good read and informitive. I just may try Alinux on the PC that I was going to recycle!
I am some what concern with the some of the antics of some Distros. Wolves in sheep clothing. How can it be closed source and considered Linux? Linspire, how could you of all people act like MS? If that is the case. Where is Paul Harvey and "the rest of the story"? I will never understand why some Linux Distros try soooo hard in having their flavor look and act like windows. I got hooked on linux by a friend using Red Hat 6.0 and Enlightenment Window manager..Linux had me at the transpartent shell window.
For the world outside the USA, Paul Harvey is a national radio host.. rater entertaining here is the link to his site. http://www.paulharvey.com/
24 • Freespire? (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-08-30 01:36:52 GMT from Italy)
This is what I found at the Linspire forum:
25 • Now, The rest of the story (by Scott Wilson on 2005-08-30 02:02:11 GMT from United States)
Anonymous Penguin, How much do what to bet that the Monday morning meeting @ Linspire was really painful.
i never use Linspire, so I don't know of the "license agreement". I bet someone was given an choice: work here or leave and start your own company!?
26 • UHmmm just a thought (by Scott Wilson on 2005-08-30 02:06:21 GMT from United States)
And you were all afraid of the Red Hatters hiding behind Fedora.
27 • RE: Now, The rest of the story (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-08-30 02:16:16 GMT from Italy)
Very likely, Scott :)
28 • irc (by mark_alec on 2005-08-30 02:32:04 GMT from Australia)
Ladislav, whatever happened to #distrowatch on irc.freenode.net?
29 • @pocketLinux (by klhrevolutionist) (by livecduser on 2005-08-30 02:54:55 GMT from United States)
I can tell distrowatch that pocketlinux is way better than slax
it is an easy to use distro. I'm glad someone finally released a distro with just one app per task!
I like choices and SLAX does not have much to choose because it is small and with good choices.
Now I can add what I want!!!
You can also add what you want to slax. You just have to remaster it/or just use modules. It can be tricky.
Why is pocketLinux better than slax?
Is it because it does not have the bugs found in unionfs?
Does PocketLinux have a livecd like SLAX?
Slax is not meant to be installed anyway. It is hard for me to digest a distro that is better than SLAX. I'll have to give it a try and will report back to you and the readers of Distrowatch.
In any case, I want to use certain applications and in the packages list pocketLinux does not come with these. Neither does slax. A fine livecd distro that does this is KANOTIX. It does not get the credit that it deserves. Salute to all, PocketLinux, SLAX, Kanotix, et. all.
30 • Freespire (by DrStreet on 2005-08-30 06:14:12 GMT from United States)
I truely wish that Jasp would stick with the name Freespire. Taking him to court after the whole Lindows/Windows mess would make Linspire the laughing stock of the Linux Community. I have to say I have no love for them, after seeing how they charge their members for access to free software through their CNR service.
BTW, in the LinspireNetwork forums they are saying he should drop the use of the colors green and blue...didn't they take that sceme from windows???
31 • linux on imac g3 (by im_ka on 2005-08-30 10:19:47 GMT from Sweden)
i'm picking up an imac g3 tomorrow i got from ebay.
it's a 500 mhz g3 with 192 mb ram. does anyone have experiences with that config? i'm especially interested in how gnome (ubuntu) would run on it with 192 ram.
32 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2005-08-30 13:44:06 GMT from United States)
I don't know who designed the XP rip-off theme for X, but they deserve to be shot.
33 • Pocketlinux quick test. (by nightflier on 2005-08-30 15:27:53 GMT from United States)
Light and fast. You can use regular Slackware packages. Great base install for custom system, but not for beginners.
34 • Freespire (by |TG|Mateo on 2005-08-30 16:10:41 GMT from United States)
I like the new name they are floating: squiggle. It's silly, fun, unique, and won't get them in any trouble with Linspire.
Don't know about the whole colors thing. Seems to me that Linspire is heavily branded with the green/blue scheme, and they want to avoid all references to their proprietary product while allowing Jasp to continue his work.
Seems fair enough to me.
35 • Freespire...... (by Happy Linux Follower on 2005-08-30 16:20:23 GMT from United States)
To the guy who created Freespire.........
You were doing a great thing .......What went wrong?
I was looking forward to trying Freespire but now I may never get the chance....
Hopefully things change in the future and you decide to continue your work.......
36 • Distrowatch (by Mr. Happy :D on 2005-08-30 16:27:24 GMT from United States)
Distrowatch is the greatest site of all time.......
In fact, this site is so great that it has been made my home page so I can keep up with all the newest Linux distro's and news as it comes out....
Keep up the great work ......
From: The happy Diostrowatch user........ :)
37 • @Freespire by DrStreet (by disgusted_Lindows_user on 2005-08-31 01:31:16 GMT from United States)
very well said, why the heck do they charge for programs that are available for free. Klik, which comes with KANOTIX, works excellent and without the crap from Lindows/Linspire.
a friend told me that they were not charging for the programs, but for the service that they provide to install programs for beginners which do not know a thing about linux and are intimidated by command lines. They are very much like Microsoft in their strategies. A simple apt-get or a klik away gives you access to the many programs available for Debian and its derivatives.
I got Lindows and it did not have tetex, a word processor, and other programs. I got the junior version of CNR and got ksnapshot and several smaller programs. A friend later burned for me copies of Mandrake 9.0 dolphin and Red Hat 9.0 shrike and away we went to much better distros than it. What a shame? They try to lock you in and ask that you get antivirus. Many people know better. Sorry if am too harsh on Lindows/Linspire folks.
38 • Freespire (by Raven on 2005-08-31 02:55:14 GMT from United States)
I have a friend who was eagerly awaiting that to be finished. Now I have to give him the bad news. Too bad; I've recommended Xandros OCE to him, and it looks like he'll have to go with that, as he doesn't have the money to pay Linspire to install software for him, and Linspire is about about as useless as Windows without any extra software after the installation.
Oh well. Back to downloading aLinux for me.
39 • aLinux for smb media server (by butters on 2005-08-31 04:34:48 GMT from United States)
I need to set up a little samba server on an old and slow (celeron 4xxMHz 64MB SDRAM) machine to serve music and video on a home network. A desktop with a web browser would be a nice, too, if I can get it to run nice on that hardware. aLinux seemed like a good route to investigate until I noticed that the distrowatch page says no samba... :(
Amongst the hundreds of distros there must be one that is particularly suited to samba serving and a light desktop (fluxbox, fvwm, sawfish, etc. would be fine) on old hardware. Vector? Or should I use straight debian or "debian pure" or something like that. You're talking to a hardened linux guru (who hasn't really jumped on board with anything newer than Gentoo), so I don't mind a couple hour's work if it's the best way.
40 • No subject (by mixmatch on 2005-08-31 06:00:55 GMT from United States)
If all you want is to run a samba server, I would recommend a distro that can be updated constantly without ever having to re-install and, since it is a much older system, that does not run a distro that you must compile everything. Debian would seem to be a good fit. If so, you would be better off just using the debian.org version as most distro additions have been in the usability features for desktops. My understanding is that Gentoo can also install binaries instead of doing compiles, so it is also an option. You can always go with fedora, mandrake, or suse, but you won't see as much support for the version you are running in 18-24 months.
41 • Asianux (by William Poetra Yoga Hadisoesen on 2005-08-31 07:01:26 GMT from China)
Now the 2.0 ISO's seem to be available, but I haven't tried downloading them yet.
Asianux only claims that it's "one of the three major Linux server distributions", not desktop (so you can't compare it to a desktop distro), and I think that's what Red Flag's President says. You know you can never trust upper management ;) Anyway, from what I observe here (I'm a student at Tsinghua University), those few students using Linux usually use Hiweed or Debian. Some use MagicLinux, and for myself I use Slackware. Asianux is nowhere to be seen (mnaybe because it's for servers only?). But anyway my school's servers still use Solaris (maybe even the sysadmins don't know anything about Asianux).
As for the Flash animations, I fully agree with you. That's a sign of developing countries -- they love to steal your attention so much that you can't concentrate on the main topic. Just look at www.21cn.com (China) and www.kompas.com (Indonesia), and I can tell you that they are only minor offenders. And if you take a look at Red Flag, Haansoft, and Miracle Linux's websites, they are better in this aspect. Maybe Asianux's website was designed by some unknown Chinese undergraduate, I don't know.
For the extreme self-praise, I think that's another major "feature" of China: they love to impress people in ways that make educated people sick. I mean, they can impress pointy-haired-bosses, but they certainly can't impress a university student.
As for the success story page, maybe they haven't had a success story yet... that's why they can't share it with us ;)
42 • aLinux Review (by Wayne040576 on 2005-08-31 11:51:03 GMT from United Kingdom)
Just read the madpenguin review of aLinux. Good review. The comments about the installer were spot on. I had similar problems with the hardware configuration section of the installer. I let it do the auto config but was unsure of what it had detected. When I booted up it left me at the command line. The graphics card on my test machine is an ati Radeon and I haven't come across a distro that didn't detect it in a long time. Doesn't really bother me but it would have been nice to know if it had been detected or not. I had a few other similar problems with the installer. I gave up after I got the desktop displayed. I think with a little more work it could be a good distro. At the moment, definitely not for beginners. Even the partition setup was slightly confusing. I could imagine that some people could easily wipe the wrong partition with it.
The strange thing is that I have installed an older version of peanut linux in the past and I don't remember having too much trouble.
43 • Freespire by DrStreet (by John on 2005-08-31 13:13:28 GMT from United States)
I have to agree. I don't understand why I should pay Linspire money to get something that is free from the Debian repositories. I have Debian Pure (www.debianpure.com) installed on my system and I use Kanotix as a rescue disk. Kanotix is cool, but it is based on the unstable branch and that branch is quite broken right now hence the name, "unstable". I have had too many problems upgrading my Kanotix system and decided to jump ship. Debian Pure installed a Sarge system which I later upgraded to testing no problem. I may not have KDE 3.4 and Gnome 2.10, but 3.3 and 2.8 are fine for me right now. Kudos to those guys for giving some people what they want.
44 • Freespire (by Liam Kinkaid on 2005-08-31 14:18:21 GMT from Portugal)
I don't understand the need to start another distro specially if linspire from time to time gives you coupons to download their distro for free. You don't even have to buy access to their CNR thing because you could use the debian repositories. IMHO this a waste of time and resources that jasc (being a linspire insider) could use to make linspire a better distro.
45 • Where's the podcast edition this week? (by xiaobao0707 on 2005-08-31 14:31:51 GMT from China)
The podcast edition is very interesting, but why it is not included in this week's distor week? I hope next week it could appear again.:-)
46 • Freespire (by John on 2005-08-31 15:14:24 GMT from United States)
"You don't even have to buy access to their CNR thing because you could use the debian repositories"
Not true. Using Debian repositories with Linspire will eventually break the system unless you are very careful in how you use apt pinning. But I agree that it's pointless to offer another distro.
47 • elive pretty neat live but.... (by mikkh on 2005-08-31 16:54:00 GMT from United Kingdom)
Enlightenment 16 and 17 to pick from, nice graphics - I'm going to install this baby
Hmmm, where's all the pretty stuff gone?
It's got a nice trendy login screen, but all the other goodies are not there.
Live - good
Installed - rubbish
48 • Freespire and Free Linspire (by Carlos Alberto P P B Santos on 2005-08-31 17:23:25 GMT from Cuba)
Visiting the website of the former Freespire project, I saw that because of the confusion involved between that personal project w/the Linspire, the last decided to give a opportunity to those interested to try a free version of Linspire: it's giving a coupon of US$ 49.95 so you can have a digital copy of Linspire for free, or having a good discount on the boxed version.
The website for that is:
I think this was very nice from Linspire, although I don't agree much on how they deal w/Click n' Run, and it's paid subscription for lot's of free programs, easily available from apt repositories.
49 • RE: elive pretty neat live but.... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-08-31 18:35:19 GMT from Italy)
"Enlightenment 16 and 17 to pick from, nice graphics - I'm going to install this baby
Hmmm, where's all the pretty stuff gone?"
It happened to me: I had logged in as root. Then I logged in as user and all the goodies were there: silly, I know, but please remember that it is based on Morphix.
For me the most annoying issue is that I haven't been able to set up pppoe so far. I'll try a script by Kano before I give up.
If only more of these new LiveCDs were based on Kanotix...
50 • Freespire (by Andrew Betts on 2005-08-31 18:40:25 GMT from United Kingdom)
Hi there. Nice to read your comments :)
51 • re elive pretty neat live but.... (by mikkh on 2005-08-31 19:29:48 GMT from United Kingdom)
Ooops, never thought of that, I always log in as root because I dont mind living dangerously on a home setup
Just read this before wiping the CDRW to try freespire instead
So I wont bother now, cheers :o)
52 • re elive pretty neat live but.... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-08-31 23:18:20 GMT from Italy)
"Ooops, never thought of that, I always log in as root because I dont mind living dangerously on a home setup"
Same here :)
The patronising attitude of some distros (Mandriva worst offender) or some developers (like in the case of Morphix) annoys me very much.
The truly "free" distros (Debian, Slackware...) give users and root the same settings.
53 • RE: Freespire (by Andrew Betts) (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-08-31 23:21:12 GMT from Italy)
If you are the developer of Freespire, please please don't give up :)
54 • Asianux (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-01 00:32:04 GMT from Italy)
Not very tempted to try it. KDE 3.2.1??? A 2 CDs RPM distro? I bet that CentOS or BLAG (in their different roles) are many times better.
Very disappointing. With so many people involved one could have expected a lot better than this.
55 • 15 minute with Asianux (by IMQ on 2005-09-01 01:32:50 GMT from United States)
Just installed the distro. Here are my initial observations:
1. The lists of programs per catergory are small. For a 2-CD set, I expect more apllications available to users. No listing of graphic viewer, no graphical ftp program, no bittorrent, etc.
2. I coudn't find the option to run update anywhere in the menu. Tried both apt & yum. Neither one available.
3. The only desktop available from the login screen is KDE.
My first thought is that this is definitely not for home desktop. Maybe I have to do some digging to see what apps are installed. Maybe the 2-CD set contains lots of server apps and just barebone desktop app. No koffice, no OpenOffice.org, no office of any kind.
Maybe when I have more time, I come back and look deeper under the surface. As it stands, it's definitely not anywhere near attractive/interesting as major distros such as SUSE, Fedore, Mandriva, etc.
56 • RE: 15 minute with Asianux (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-01 01:53:06 GMT from Italy)
Clearly it is not a distro I want to waste my time on.
57 • RE: RE: 15 minute with Asianux (by IMQ on 2005-09-01 03:38:36 GMT from United States)
I think the users will get better desktop options with Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux clones such as CentOS, Scientifc Linux, Whitebox, X/OS, etc.
On top of that and more importantly, there are no community support forums to get help with problem users run into. Well, I am not aware of one.
58 • re elive pretty neat live but.... (by Christophe Grandsire on 2005-09-01 16:21:31 GMT from Netherlands)
What you say isn't quite right. Debian, for instance, by default disallows root to log in graphically. You have to change the settings of GDM to allow for it.
At the same time, I don't see the point of running as root. There's no practical gain for the loss of security. At least on my computer there's nothing to do that requires me to log in graphically as root. If I want a root terminal, it's just one click away (and giving the password to gksu). Same with Synaptic, or anything that needs root rights. And I can play and burn CDs and DVDs, watch videos and play games, print whatever I want, without having to log in as root.
To me, wanting to run as root means:
- either that your distro isn't correctly set up out of the box, and restricts normal users beyond what's acceptable,
- or that you have a masochistic streak in your personality, and want to test Murphy's Law to its limits :) . This is a perfectly valid excuse, but don't ever approach my computer please ;) (I actually set up a special "invitee" account, that has even less rights than normal users ;) ).
In any case, I don't believe there is any advantage to run as root, unless you want to copy Windows's behaviour, and what's the point of that?
59 • re elive pretty neat live but.... (by Anonymous Penguin on 2005-09-01 17:51:27 GMT from Italy)
Please I don't want to start the discussion whether running as root is bad or not all over again, it has been discussed zillions of times. Not everybody agrees that it is such a stupid thing to do, see for instance the opinion of Peter van der Linden, here:
Advantages? Makes my life a lot easier (at least that is how i feel about it)
Disadvantages? None so far after many years.
As to Debian, it is the GDM default which doesn't allow root login, but that takes 2 seconds to change. Once logged in the working environment is absolutely the same.
60 • Re: aLinux for smb media server and Installation (by Clint Canada on 2005-09-01 19:31:36 GMT from Philippines)
Regarding the samba rpm, it's located at http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/peanut/current/pkgs/contribs/RPMS/KDE/not_installed/samba-3.0.14a-1.i386.rpm
It was not placed in the repository yet, because lots of packages are undergoing cleanup - Jay told me.
I agree with you though about the installer, I do find it a bit confusing for newbies (I find peanut 9.5 as having the most logical install ever)... but don't worry a graphical installer is in the works.... hopefully.
He's practically a one-man compiling machine. :)
61 • Donation (by d00m3d on 2005-09-02 15:24:45 GMT from China)
Despite most DW readers suggested and agreed MPLAYER to be financed since 2 weeks ago in DWW, I would like to nominate BUSYBOX, http://www.busybox.net/, as the open source project for donation.
Have a look at http://www.busybox.net/products.html, one can easily find that BUSYBOX, not only help out various mini-distros, but is also employed in many installer projects from major distros like Debian, RedHat, Gentoo, Slackware and MDK etc.
Indeed, BUSYBOX is also a good solution within the initrd when booting Linux from external (USB or IEEE1394) devices. The Archie LiveCD is a typical example.
BUSYBOX is definitely worth considering.
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|• Issue 591 (2015-01-05): Manjaro 0.8.11, systemd, Devuan, Torrent Corner|
|• Issue 590 (2014-12-22): Fedora 21, Ubuntu phone, expanding ZFS storage, Able2Extract|
|• Issue 589 (2014-12-15): Parsix 7.0, Ubuntu "Snappy", PC-BSD upgrades, How Linux Works|
|• Issue 588 (2014-12-08): PC-BSD 10.2, rolling-release Ubuntu GNOME, Bitrig, systemd|
|• Issue 587 (2014-12-01): Trisquel 7.0, Kubuntu 14.10 "Plasma5", FreeBSD on 64-bit ARM, Jolla and UbuTab|
|• Issue 586 (2014-11-24): Scientific Linux 7.0, Debian and systemd, Ubuntu MATE, application-level firewalls|
|• Issue 585 (2014-11-17): openSUSE 13.2, PC-BSD's "roles", MATE + Compiz on Mint, cleaning package cache|
|• Issue 584 (2014-11-10): OpenMandriva 2014.1, Debian freeze, trickle, systemd and boot times|
|• Issue 583 (2014-11-03): Ubuntu 14.10, ownCloud, Kylin interview, The Book of PF, Elive's commercial ways|
|• Issue 582 (2014-10-27): GhostBSD 4.0, Tumbleweed and Factory merge, systemd and fork of Debian|
|• Issue 581 (2014-10-20): SparkyLinux 3.5, Fedora's graphics stack, Debian and systemd, OpenBSD 5.6|
|• Issue 580 (2014-10-13): Rolling releases, Arch as best distro, GNOME on Wayland, MINIX 3.3.0|
|• Full list of all issues|
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