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1 • Arch Linux (by Luk van den Borne at 2004-08-30 12:20:00 GMT) |
What about Arch Linux? I think we can expect 0.7 Wombat shortly. The first beta has already been released. Oh and Ladislav, you once promised you'd write a review about Arch ;-)
2 • RE: Arch Linux (by ladislav at 2004-08-30 12:29:00 GMT)
...you once promised you'd write a review about Arch.
I did write one: http://lwn.net/Articles/40952/. It's not a full review, just something to keep the promise :-) Unfortunately, I don't have time for more comprehensive reviews any more - they take up a lot of time and effort. Sorry :-(
3 • What about UserLinux? (by Andrius on 2004-08-30 12:30:18 GMT)
4 • RE: What about UserLinux? (by ladislav at 2004-08-30 13:11:33 GMT)
Good point. Unfortunately, the UserLinux web site gives no information about release schedules. I would imagine they will need to create a more presentable web site before they launch the product -that's if they really want to convert businesses to UserLinux.
5 • the udev surprise (by Leo on 2004-08-30 14:04:14 GMT)
If you lurk a bit on Mandrake dev-list (cooker), you'll notice that a big deal of problems with Mandrake 10.1 (and perhaps part of the reasons for the delays) is the suprising kernel switch from "devfs" into "udev".
The switch itself is a bit of an embarassment to say the least.
Even the FAQ are embarassing. These sort of changes belong to unstable branches. Of course, the new Linux kernel direction means to get development features in the stable branch. Really, really confusing
Maybe this is matter for DW weekly next week ladislav ?
PD: welcome back from the long trip, hope you enjoyed it!
6 • Tuxs.org (by Vectrix at 2004-08-30 14:38:38 GMT)
How many distributions are on that test ??? I only get:
7 • Linux chooser (by Guido on 2004-08-30 14:40:09 GMT)
Interesting idea, but the current implementation is mostly useless. Some random notes:
* The number of possible outcomes is very limited: at first glance only Mandrake, Fedore, Knoppix and YellowDog.
* It would have been nice, if they would suggest an alternative besides their favorite.
* The questions are not geared towards complete newbies. For instance what is a "technical version"? I guess they mean to ask if the prospective user is familiar with Unix commands (I could be completely wrong there though).
8 • RE: Tuxs.org (by Greyweather on 2004-08-30 15:46:16 GMT)
"How many distributions are on that test ?"
Yellow Dog Linux
Gentoo PPC Linux
Damn Small Linux
9 • Distro choser (by colnago at 2004-08-30 16:19:36 GMT)
I only got Mandrake and Fedora when I looked around there. I was surprised that Fedora was the technical distribution. They should have just used the user agent from the browser and a random number to tell people to use yellow dog, mdk, fc2, or suse.
10 • about review subjects (by Penguin on 2004-08-30 17:16:24 GMT)
I'd suggest that you could try to get reviews especially of yet unreviewed distributions. In case someone might be interested in writing those reviews... At least I'm a bit tired of reading a review of new releases of Fedora/Redhat, SUSE, Mandrake, & Slackware reviews every half a year or so. - plus reviews of all the dozens of live CDs out there.
Not yet reviewed interesting distributions that have already existed longer than for a one or two releases are for example: DeLi Linux (good for the oldest and slowest PCs), Tinysofa (server), ClarkConnect Broadband Gateway, Buffalo (easier Slackware) & Lunar (source-based),. Or reading a review of some BSD-based live CD would be interesting for a change too.
Just my 2 cents worth - and if somebody happened to be looking for an interesting distro to review... ;-)
11 • NavynOS (by d00m3d on 2004-08-30 17:53:01 GMT)
The download link at ftp://ftp.illx.org/ only accept max 5 global clients. It is always full and unaccessible. Pls point it to other fast mirror such as w2p.org or ibiblio.org.
BTW, 2004.08 made a lot of enhancements compare to previous releases but the CD burning problem originated from kernel 22.214.171.124 seems unresolved.
12 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2004-08-30 19:45:40 GMT)
That distro chooser is terrible.
It suggested fedora for comps older then 2 years. My comp is exactly 2 years old and fedora is _too fucking slow_.
I know I want a debian based distro so I can actually install packages, but there is no way to refine the search that much.
13 • Debian stable (by Joe P on 2004-08-30 22:08:47 GMT)
I am sure the Debian mirrors will be hammered as soon as the announcement of a new stable version is out. So should those of us about to do an install try Woody and apt-get later or wait for the FTP installer for Sarge?
14 • julain (by Re: Debian stable on 2004-08-30 23:59:06 GMT)
yeah, but isnt it you can use bit torrent to download the image?
15 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2004-08-31 04:53:44 GMT)
That distro chooser is well done, great idea. Only needs to add more questions and possibles distros.
16 • Distro Chooser (by Wide Eyed Sleeper on 2004-08-31 07:16:14 GMT)
Something about the distro chooser just isn't right. you can't decide a distro after answering 3(or was it 4) questions. It took me damn near 2 months to decide to use MDK92 and about a month to decide to change to Slackware10.
17 • Distro Chooser (by Aussie on 2004-08-31 09:38:23 GMT)
Distro Chooser was a joke...
It's like some school student whipped something up in his lunchbreak.
I went there *thinking* that I'd find something intelligent, but it's really a basic "expert system" with only a few possible outcomes.
Waste of my time...
18 • synaptic is not a front-end to rpm (by solstice on 2004-08-31 13:43:29 GMT)
as far as i can remember the times when i used to use debian, synaptic was a front-end to dpkg (and deb package) not rpm ...
and what i see on the synaptic home page is:
Synaptic is a graphical package management program for apt. It provides the same features as the apt-get command line utility with a GUI front-end based on Gtk+ or WINGs.
19 • RE: synaptic is not a front-end to rpm (by ladislav at 2004-08-31 13:52:40 GMT)
as far as i can remember the times when i used to use debian, synaptic was a front-end to dpkg (and deb package) not rpm
That's because Debian doesn't use RPM, but Conectiva does. But you are right, it's probably more accurate to say that Synaptic is a graphical front-end for apt (which, in case of Conectiva, is a port of Debian's apt for RPM-based distributions, rather than the original apt for DEB-based distributions).
20 • No subject (by Leo on 2004-08-31 15:08:19 GMT)
RE: synaptic is not a front-end to rpm
I think there is some confusion:
* RPM and DEB are package formats
* dpkg and rpm are command line simple interfaces to handle individual packages
* apt, urpmi and apt-rpm are command line wrappers that allow handling dependencies and other issues when managing several packages at once
* There are GUI front ends to apt and urpmi, synaptic being one of them
So, you have, for instance,
RPM -> rpm -> apt-rpm -> synaptic
DEB -> dpkg -> apt -> synaptic
RPM -> rpm -> urpmi -> rpmdrake (control center)
RPM -> rpm -> Yast (control center)
21 • No subject (by theweakend on 2004-09-01 00:49:10 GMT)
isn't free bsd comeing soon as well?
22 • SimplyMEPIS is out allready (by tipps at 2004-09-01 18:15:11 GMT)
still a hidden downloadlink but the final of SimplyMEPIS 2004 is avaiable at http://www.mrbass.org/linux/mepis/
23 • No subject (by Anonymous on 2004-09-01 19:33:02 GMT)
The distro chooser recommends Gentoo for technical users who want to install a distribution on their 2 year old pc. 200 hours compilation time ahoy!
24 • looking for a plomb (by John Cherry at 2004-09-02 03:08:48 GMT)
Thanks for qualifying your remark about rainy autumn days with the bit about 'north of the equator' -- far too many people promise software releases in 'spring', for example, as if the entire world shares the same (north american) seasons.
25 • RE: looking for a plomb (by ladislav at 2004-09-02 03:47:36 GMT)
I know. I spent ten years of my life in South Africa, so I know that for many people Christmas doesn't mean cold weather and snow, but rather beaches, swimming pools, outdoor parties... Yes, I do try to avoid mentioning names of seasons on the Internet.
26 • Youve been Distrowatched ?? (by Gavin Denby at 2004-09-02 04:01:56 GMT)
Anyone wondered about beartrIX ? seems like your not alone.
A quick check of the website shows that the traffic for this has exploded, and the poor old website and downloadable iso is being swamped.
Looks like mini isos are getting a popularity that makes me wonder if there is a lot of old hardware out there just looking for a nice linux distro to install on it.
Either that or poeple are looking for speed improvements over the traditional big 5.
Personnaly I suspect its the former. ..... And ITX boards can fit into some pretty awesome places.
27 • Distribution chooser (by Terry Ross at 2004-09-07 02:07:38 GMT)
I didn't expect much when I visited, but was willing to give it a try. Aside from saying that it vaguely reminds me of one of my 1979 Atari BASIC introductory programs, I'll hold back on any disparaging comments. As for the recommendation that I try Gentoo, I think I'll just stay with Source Mage GNU/Linux, thanks all the same heheh.
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