| DistroWatch Weekly
|DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 50, 24 May 2004
Welcome to this year's 21th edition of DistroWatch Weekly. The much awaited Fedora Core 2 has now landed. You've seen the first review and you know that it doesn't dual boot with Windows XP, but life wouldn't be fun if everything was perfect, right? Now let's get on with the content of this week's issue of DWW.
Debian From Scratch
This surprise announcement about a Gentoo-like Debian From Scratch project was spotted on the debian-devel mailing list:
"Debian From Scratch (DFS) is a single CD that is a full rescue CD capable of working with all major filesystems, LVM, software RAID, and even compiling a new kernel. And, it's a cdebootstrap-based install CD that can install i386 Woody, i386 Sarge, i386 Sid, and amd64 Sid directly from CD, and whatever else from the 'net. The installation can best be described as "Gentoo-like". Documentation is not yet very complete, but updates will be posted at the URL below."
This project should be of interest to users who have been asking for a Debian distribution with a Gentoo-style control and optimisation; voices requesting such a project tend to "emerge" in the Debian community from time to time. If you are interested, visit the DFS's documentation page and then download the ISO image (version 0.5.1 was released last Saturday) from here. If any of you has given it a try or if you are planning to take a closer look, do not hesitate to share your thoughts in the forums below.
The "spare bedroom" distributions
This really belongs to the reader feedback section, but I moved it here to stress a point. A (not particularly polite) poster in last week's DistroWatch Weekly forum reacted to the fact that MEPIS and PCLinuxOS were under consideration to replace Desktop/LX on the top ten distributions list:
"Mepis, PCLinuxOS?? Personally, I'd like to know what these two one-man, fly-by-night, back bedroom distros have that any other organized commercial mainstream distro doesn't?"
Well, dear poster (and dear all who need this reminder): before you post any more messages disparaging distributions that are not created by registered companies, just remember the beginnings of Linux. Linux doesn't exist because some large corporations with plenty of money thought it was a good idea to create it; it exists because a young student with no money thought it was a good idea to create it. Linux exists because somebody put it together in a spare bedroom, just for fun. This is also true about many open source applications that we use daily.
It was the policy of DistroWatch from the beginning to give equal exposure to all Linux distributions, be they small spare-bedroom projects created by pennyless Linux enthusiasts, or large enterprise-class projects built by corporation worth billions of dollars on the stock exchange. On DistroWatch, a distribution released by a registered company with a huge marketing department, a legal division, and a large server farm will be reported in the same manner as a distribution released by a couple of Mongolian developers in Ulan Bator with nothing but an account on SourceForge and a desire to create something that others can use. As we all know, a great piece of software can be coded with no money, while even the world's richest companies are often unable to build software that is stable, secure and resistant to worms and viruses.
Those of you who prefer a Linux distribution created by a "proper" company, there is plenty to choose from. But if you are only interested to read about distributions created by "proper" companies, you are on a wrong web site.
Some of you might find use for MirrorWatch, an interesting web site that monitors how complete a mirror of a distribution is at the time of your visit. As we all know, there are many FTP/HTTP servers that mirror the master servers of the main distributions, but some of them limit mirroring to ISO images, while others only synchronise with the master server once in a week. MirrorWatch will give you an opportunity to find out with one glance how complete a mirror is without having to log in to the mirror itself and navigate through its directories. It comes particularly handy during "rush days", just after a new major distribution release. The site currently covers Mandrakelinux, Fedora and Debian mirrors, but the author welcomes suggestions for new mirror and distribution additions to the site. Visit MirrorWatch here.
|Released Last Week
A new updated release of the Knoppix live CD is now available for your downloading pleasure. From the changelog: "V3.4-2004-05-17 (small updates). Kernel 2.6.6; harddisk installer (Fabian Franz) update; live installer (Fabian Franz) update; fixed knoppix-terminalserver boot-graphics; removed ipw2100 support in kernel 2.6.6 because it does not work there (gcc incompatibilities, changed kernel api)." Download from one of the many Knoppix mirrors.
Fedora Core 2
Fedora Core 2 has been released: "Fedora Core 2 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images and four source ISO images, and is available for both x86-64 and i386. Please file bugs via Bugzilla, Product Fedora Core, Version 2, so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this release on fedora-list." Read the announcement and release notes for further details.
Server optimized Linux (or SoL), version 18.00, has been released: "antitachyon - Manalo & Willner OEG proudly announces the final release of SoL - Server optimized Linux 18.00. SoL 18.00 is the 5th stable release of SoL since 2002. SoL is a Linux-Distribution developed by the Austrian company 'antitachyon'. The main concepts of SoL were consequently enhanced. SoL 18.00 is the first release which features a multi-language installer. All the translations where done by the very active SoL-community." Read the rest of the release announcement and visit the product's features page for additional information about SoL.
tinysofa enterprise server 1.0-U1
This is from the release announcement of tinysofa enterprise server 1.0 Update 1: "tinysofa enterprise server 1.0-U1 is now generally available. Update 1 adds polish to an already widely acclaimed distribution, and is the product of an amazingly expedient development process that has seen the adoption of the subversion source control management system as its centrepiece. Every package has been updated, and the release includes a great amount of attention to detail." Find the release announcement on the distribution's home page.
CRUX 2.0 has been released: "I'm happy to announce that CRUX 2.0 is now available. This is the first CRUX release that is based on the 2.6 kernel. Other highlights include Glibc 2.3.3 with NPTL, GCC 3.3.3 and X.org's X11 6.7.0. See the change log for a complete list of new, updated and removed packages. Go to the download section to download the ISO image. Please use a mirror. Due to the major changes in this release, and because quite a few packages were renamed, upgrading from 1.3 is not supported by the setup script. A fresh re-installation is highly recommended." The full release announcement.
Puppy Linux 0.8.6
Puppy Linux 0.8.6 has been released. From the release notes: "Puppy now has the Tcl/Tk programming language and BWidget, tix, FTP, Tkhtml, Img, combobox extension libraries;* VisualTcl and specTcl, GUI builders for creating Tcl/Tk applications; ML, text editor with syntax highlighting of Tcl code, with procedure jump-to; tkConvert, units converter; regexpviewer, regular expression evaluator; Slidedraw, slide presentation program, like PowerPoint; CDTAR, another backup program (Puppy already has bkup2cd); TkZip, another archiver program, handles bzip2, tar, gzip, zip, cpio archives (Puppy already has Xtar); setvol, console utility to set and get the audio volume..."
Tilix is Bulgaria's own distribution - a Knoppix-based live CD with a complete desktop in Bulgarian. Version 0.3 was released earlier this week, after several months of development. Some of the newly upgraded packages and features since version 0.2 include: kernel 2.6.5 with ACPI/DMA; KDE 3.2.2, XFree86 4.3.0, Mozilla Firefox 0.8, Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6, Digikam 0.6.0, KBear 2.1, OpenOffice 1.1.1, GCC 3.4 (optional); autodetection of nForce 1/2 LAN cards; an option to install Tilix to hard disk with 'tilix tohd=/dev/hdaX'; support for Internet connectivity with GPRS/IRDA and USB modems.... The full announcement is available on the distribution's news page (in Bulgarian).
Tilix 0.3 - Bulgaria's own Linux distribution
(full image size 365kB)
Slavix is a Morphix-based live CD intended for a home user. From the announcement about the release of Slavix 0.9.1: "This is an update to release 0.9.0 with some bug fixes and some changes in functionality and look. This release brings all included packages to their latest state in Debian unstable. It is based on Morphix base module 0.4.1, Debian GNU/Linux sid, KDE 3.2, Linux kernel v2.4.21-xfs. Added Features: Slavix LiveCD menu to System Configuration with items: Administrator console, Save Home directory, Save settings, Set Administrator password; added find in folder KDE extention to KDE; added Russian phonetic keyboard...."
Rocks Cluster Distribution 3.2.0
The Rocks Cluster Distribution project has released Rocks 3.2.0: "Rocks 3.2.0, code named Shasta, is released for Pentium/Athlon, Opteron, and Itanium. This release includes the latest updates from Red Hat (as of May 18th), bug fixes, refreshed rolls and the addition of two new rolls for Pentium/Athlon clusters. The 'Area51 Roll' contains system integrity tools: tripwire and chkrootkit. The 'Condor Roll' adds the distributed high-throughput feature from the Condor project. To download the ISO images for the Rocks Base and Rolls, see Downloads. For more details regarding the release, see the Release Notes." Read the full announcement on the distribution's home page.
YES Linux 2.0.8
YES Linux 2.0.8 has been released: "YES Corporation would like to announce the release of YES Linux 2.0.8 for immediate downloading. The major changes are integration of WebDAV, single sign on using PostgreSQL (all authentication including native apache Basic Authentication is provided by PostgreSQL), bug fixes to integration of phpPgAdmin thanx to Elitelan (elitelan.com), removal of Samba. The last is the most exciting because it means that any machine that is capable of viewing a WebDAV export can now update their website using any authoring tool." The full release announcement.
Development and unannounced releases
|Upcoming Releases and Announcements
The developers of FreeSBIE, a FreeBSD-based live CD, have announced that work has started on FreeSBIE 1.1: "With a new message on the official mailing list, dave announced today that he started to work on FreeSBIE again. He proposed some new features that will be implemented in FreeSBIE 1.1." Find out more on freesbie.org.
Shark Linux 2.0
From the What's coming up in 2.0: "The 2.0 Branch of SharkLinux has been started today. The 1.05/1.06 branches were based on the Gentoo Linux project. We have decided to scrap further development on this project in favor of a completely NEW system. RPMs will be used for package management and updates. This will not only simplify the release process, but also provide an easy way to manage updates and add-on packages. What to expect in v2: kernel 2.6.6 or higher (latest kernel at time of release); GCC 3.4 w/ Stack Smashing Protector; glibc 2.3.3 w/ AMD64 fixes;* RPM v4 package management; improved console administration tools; improved support for Linisys and IBM Opteron Systems." Read more on sharklinux.com.
|Web Site News
Revising the top 10 distributions
Based on your feedback (and in spite of having alienated several Desktop/LX users), Lycoris Desktop/LX will be replaced with MEPIS Linux on our top 10 distributions list. Additionally, FreeBSD will be included in the list as the top BSD-based operating system. Several readers suggested that, besides the "top ten" list, we could also include a quick "top five" listings in various categories. We did like the idea, so expect an updated page sometimes later this week.
Revising tracked packages
This is just another reminder to everybody that you have one more week left to suggest new software packages to be tracked by DistroWatch. We have received a few votes, but we need some more to finalise the list. All the details are on packages page. Just a warning: I cannot guarantee that all suggested packages will make it, but the most often requested packages will be included in the tables starting next month.
New distribution addition
New on the waiting list
- MirOS. MirOS targets small servers and developers' workstations (although it _does_ come with KDE or GNOME on request); it's a pretty small, very secure operating system, totally freely licenced. MirOS BSD is derived from OpenBSD and NetBSD and currently runs on i386 and SPARC; PPC to follow.
- PingOO. PingOO is a French Debian-based distribution in development since 1997. It comes in three editions: PingOO Communication Server, PingOO Secure Server and PingOO File Server.
- Giboia Linux. Giboia Linux is Brazil's latest distribution - a Debian based live CD with GNOME as its desktop environment.
DistroWatch database summary
- OEone. Confirming earlier rumours, the Mozilla-based OEone project has now definitely closed the doors. The distribution's original web site was at www.oeone.com, but last week it started redirecting visitors to Axentra Corporation. As a result of this, we have removed OEone from the list of active distributions.
- Number of Linux distributions in the database: 289
- Number of BSD distributions in the database: 7
- Number of discontinued distributions: 32
- Number of distributions on the waiting list: 81
Wanted: a mini live CD distro for AMD64
A reader wonders why, until now, there has been no effort to build a mini live CD distribution for AMD64:
"The advent and growing popularity of AMD64 systems has heralded many 64-bit Linux distros. However, to date, there does not exist a mini live CD distro for 64-bit Linux. I am referring to business-card bootable live CDs such as Damn Small Linux, Feather Linux, and Puppy Linux which function as useful operating desktop systems and not just as recovery CDs. Would anyone be interested in creating a 64-bit mini live CD distro? Is there currently enough demand that would justify the creation of these things? Either way, I hope to create some discussion on DW to kick-start the issue."
Search features on DistroWatch
The issue of search features and distribution categories keeps comming up, as demonstrated by this post last week:
"Every time I enter DistroWatch, I want to see what's new, but also when I have to do some specific search, I'm not able to do it. This is because of the lack of categories or some kind of special keywords to be used in a search, I mean, as the guy right over me, if I need a distro for really old hardware, I can't go with Mandrake, but I don't necessarily know the names of the distros able to work good on old hardware. The same for live CDs, if I need some LiveCD distro, i would like to know which of the list are this kind, to be able to compare between them (I remember this was available until one day the page disappeared.)"
Firstly, the live CD page did not disappear - it is still available from a link on the Search page. Secondly, besides requests, can any of you offer help with implementing these features? It's very easy to spend 2 minutes writing that "I want this feature or that feature", but do you realise that it would take days of coding to implement your requests? Please don't write that you want something, offer help instead! If you can't code, then learn, or wait until I find the time to code. I do want to listen to your requests and code in all the requested features, but I just don't have the time (or money to employ a programmer).
Those of you who cannot code, but would like to help out, this is what you could do: go to the distributions on waiting list page and see if you can research one of the distributions on the list. When your research is done, fill in the submit distribution form. Fill it in in full, including the list of packages. It might take time to find the information, you might have to download the product, try it out, extract the package list from it... Also, find out the description of the product (check the spelling too). You might have to contact the developers just to obtain some information. If you can do this, I will really appreciate your help - it would save me a lot of time which I can use for coding in the most wanted features. Some of the often requested new distributions currently still on waiting list include the following: Kix, Luit Linux, Necromantux, GIS Knoppix, Orange Cell, CalyptOS, Navyn OS, just to name a few of the 80 or so on the list, growing every week. However, do get in touch before you set out to research a distribution (my email is on the bottom of this page), so that we don't get two people doing the same work.
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1 • Re: The "spare bedroom" distributions (by Lino on 2004-05-24 11:48:24 GMT) |
Well said, Ladislav! I don't have any comments to add to what you said, but I will go a little bit offtopic.
Some people are so used to commertial standrads that they judge software (or general things related to IT) only by market share or business model. To them I'd like to say: please notice that the broard Open Source Movement goes well beyond money-making business. Sure successful commersial distros and companies can strongly premote OSS but the spirit of the community remains to be voluntary, and brilliant individuals can accomplish somthing that even a mutil-billion dollar company could never do. This is something new and we are lucky to be in a heroic time.
Oh, good morning Ladislav and others. I hope this is still the first post when I click the submit button. We are in holiday today in Canada, and happy Victoia Day to all Canadians!
2 • Freesbie (by Marcel Gommans at 2004-05-24 11:54:23 GMT)
Good news from Freesbie. I mailed dave to ask him to include harddisk installation in 1.1. I love Freesbie, but couldn't get freebsd to work properly on my system (ancient installer).
3 • Site (by Marcel Gommans at 2004-05-24 11:57:04 GMT)
I just wanted to say I like what you did with the site. Small adjustments make a big difference!
4 • Two very different distros: Buffalo and Onebase (by FedupPenguin at 2004-05-24 12:16:44 GMT)
Buffalo: great praise. It might have some bugs, but:
Its developer never stops working.
He has no big money delusions, on the contrary I believe that he spends money out of his own pocket.
He has a great sense of humour and he is very nice: once I sent him an email complaing that downloading Buffalo was very slow and he offered to send me a CD, no costs for me: kudos!
Onebase: regardless of whether there is any need for such a distro, his developer:
Has delusions of grandeur and making a lot of money.
His behaviour is childish and arrogant: he doesn't reply to (reasonable) question he doesn't like and he doesn't accept any criticism, as clearly stated by himself at the forum.
He tries to be smart: his latest releases of Onebase and OnebaseGo are little different from the previous ones: especially the kernel is still an old one.
Good luck to him: fortunately there are 300 distros to choose from.
5 • Re: Freesbie (by Marcel Gommans) (by Sergio on 2004-05-24 13:17:19 GMT)
Great news indeed.
Eventually some of us who couldn't manage to install FreeBSD will be able to.
6 • FreeSBIE (by vic at 2004-05-24 14:23:17 GMT)
I'd really like a new FreeBSD live CD...the 1.0 release was rather buggy on my PC since I don't know anything about BSD, but I really want to test it....please!!
7 • FreeSBIE... (by SyntaxError at 2004-05-24 14:58:10 GMT)
Indeed, it's a nice BSD-based LiveCD. Ability to do a HD install without hosing the other OS would be a big plus. Looking forward to test it out.
8 • I need an usb based distro (by Flori at 2004-05-24 14:59:10 GMT)
I 'd really would like to know some of those Linux distros that can be installed on USB. I knew only Flonix , but I couldn't download anything from that site? Any other distro names?
9 • FreeSBIE (by msb at 2004-05-24 15:13:41 GMT)
The new FreeSBIE is an exciting announcement for those of us who are fans of the *BSDs. It's a very well-done live CD that I often take with me, even to work, and have found it to be just as useful as the Knoppix variants. I'm looking forward to the upcoming enhancements.
10 • zipslack (by sclebo05 at 2004-05-24 15:55:11 GMT)
Both zipslack and Puppy linux will do that. There a few out there.
11 • usb based distro (by BillH on 2004-05-24 15:59:09 GMT)
USB based? RUNT is designed for it.
12 • USB based distro (by Sergio on 2004-05-24 17:02:01 GMT)
I believe that Feather is another one.
13 • usb/bedroom (by Frank on 2004-05-24 17:29:03 GMT)
Damn Small can also be put on a USB memory stick.
They have a special USB boot image on the mirrors.
Re: "spare bedroom"
Oh please, the best things happening in Linux right now are being done by hackers. Look at what Knoppix has started!
14 • Spare Bedroom Distros (by dthacker at 2004-05-24 18:46:48 GMT)
I'm glad DistroWatch treats them as equals. I want to know about all of them. Keep up the good work.
15 • Re: "spare bedroom" distributions (by JimF43 at 2004-05-24 19:54:52 GMT)
I can only personally attest to the validity of Mepis, but, I see many of these Distros as a superior and less time/effort intensive way to set up a Debian Linux desktop. Worst case scenario is that one can maintain and update from the Debian repositories whether or not the author continues to maintain and support. To my mind, the bootable distros have done a great service in the promoting Linux as a viable alternative to M$.
16 • Re: The "Spare Bedroom" Distributions (by Oscar on 2004-05-24 20:11:15 GMT)
Excellent post, Ladislav :D ! You have my full support =)
17 • Thanks... (by Big Moron on 2004-05-24 20:26:22 GMT)
Thank you for listening... I am happy that my sugestion about the "top 5" was well taken in to consideration. There were many others expanding the idea and I bet that the "Quik Top 5" will be of great help to many... including me and the newbee...
I felt important when I saw the responce about my sugestion... neat! Lest see what else I can contribute with... small or big it dosen't mater as long as it helps...
18 • Back Bedroom distros, and such (by Ezra at 2004-05-24 20:43:17 GMT)
I read through the comments made last week and this week regarding the top 10 list and Desktop/LX. I have been coming back to Distrowatch for the last several years and have never looked at the top 10 list. I always figured it was simply a relisting of the top ten distros in the page hit ranking. If the top 10 list is different from the page hit ranking, then why? What is top 10 on a site dedicated to tracking page hit statistics if not a true account of the top ten page hit ranking distros?
I would suggest getting rid of the top 10 altogether. Your home page displays the top distros in page hit rank order already. If you want a to do a top 10 style list, implement what many have suggested and create top 5 lists in specific categories. For example, top 5 live cd distros, top 5 desktop distros, top 5 server distros, top 5 up-and-coming distros, etc. I think this idea would be more useful for newbies and quite interesting for all.
I am no html coder and cannot presently donate some time. I personally do not use the top 10 feature and could care less about top 10 lists. Top 5 category lists would be a nice luxury, but certainly not necessary. I do believe that top 10 or top 5 lists should be a reflection of page hit rank and nothing more, or else the lists mean nothing.
19 • Re: "Spare bedroom distros" (by mr_moose on 2004-05-24 21:32:05 GMT)
Heh - Got to stand up for Mepis here .... :-)
Sheesh - what a nerve that person has (the one going on about Mepis, PCLinuxOS being "spare bedroom" distros :-). They ask what distinguishes them from the big main distros. As a Mepis user, the distinction is very easy - "it works". An install so easy that a knuckle-dragger could use it, and the first distro to detect and successfully use my winmodem ( that includes Knoppix which unfortunately didn't). But I give kudos to both Knoppix and Mepis for *really* raising the bar on hardware detection - they leave the big distros waaay behind in that area.
Interesting that the person didn't mention Knoppix - is that a spare bedroom distro too (according to him)? Not in my view - I have a lot of respect for Knoppix and its creator, the ever-resourceful Klaus Knopper.
Anyway, enough from me .... :-)
20 • Discontinued distro Oeone (by Kanwar Plaha at 2004-05-24 23:19:28 GMT)
Its rather sad that this distribution is not available anymore. I had been using it on my redhat box for sometime and found it innovative. In fact, looking at the screenshots of Longhorn and Oeone ... you are bound to notice that this distribution was ahead of its time.
I wonder if anyone can request them to release the code to open source community and can thus be revived! I would hate to see it go under like this.
21 • Texstar (by Distrowatch reader at 2004-05-25 01:36:26 GMT)
I use Texstars mdk's.
They are better than Mandrakes.
They just work.
22 • Outright outrage (by William Roddy at 2004-05-25 03:02:45 GMT)
Dear fellow DistroWatch readers,
I have paid for Xandros, for Lycoris, for Red Hat, for SuSE, and for Mandrake, and I have done so with regularity over the past six years. I paid because, in some cases, it was the only way I could use the distributions. Linux is the only operating system I use, but I have not, until recently, been vocally in favor of any distribution, choosing rather to try the and see which one, in the current cycle of distributions, is best, overall, and best for me.
The disparagement by one reader of non-corporate Linux distributions show how far we have come: all the way to the boardroom door. And there are those -- most likely with personal agendas -- who would shoot their mouth off without knowing what they're talking about.
It would be unfair of me to consider PCLinuxOS at this time, because they have not yet released their entry into this cycle of distributions. But I feel I am quite qualified to speak of MEPIS, having inched along with them as they go from one release candidate to the next.
I now exclusively use -- and voluntarily pay for -- MEPIS, with the exception of one computer that I use to continue my hobby of exploring Linux distributions. The reason I use MEPIS is because it is, in every way, better than all of the other distributions that have been previously mentioned, and others, at this point in the evolution of Linux.
I am retired, have DSL, and I have plenty of time, and I spend much of that time "trying" each distribution as soon as it hits the pages of DistroWatch (I don't considered that I've fairly tried a distribution unless I have installed it on a hard drive and have used it). There are a number of exceptionally fine distributions in this cycle (for example, PLD Live CD), but none -- not Fedora, and definitely not Lycoris (Desktop/LX) or Xandros -- is better than MEPIS.
The only reasons I can think of that the author of the disparaging comments about MEPIS and PCLinuxOS might be strumming his air guitar to the present tune could only be: 1) he has a vested interest, or 2) he simply hasn't tried anything else.
I I will say this with certainty: if you are using Xandros or Lycoris, you are using distributions that are inferior to MEPIS. I want both Xandros and Lycoris to succeed. But they are both way behind the curve.
MEPIS might not stay King of the Hill forever, but right now, it is. And I get the deep sense from the community that has come to surround it, and from the communications I have with the MEPIS company, we can be expecting it to try to be there.
And just for the record, by DistroWatch's own counter, as of the past few months, MEPIS has EARNED its way into the Top Ten list.
23 • Re: Buffalo & Onebase (by Ariszlo at 2004-05-25 06:47:45 GMT)
Yes, Buffalo is really cool: it is Slackware with a 2.6.x kernel optimized for i686 or later.
With Onebase, I was much luckier than you. Whenever I ran into trouble with it, I received good advice from the forum members, including the developer. Well, there is one exception: GNOME 2.6 installed from Onebase binaries is really crap but since I am a KDE fan, I can do without it.
24 • no reason for amd64 livecds (by theo on 2004-05-26 22:46:46 GMT)
The point of a livecd is to have something you can plop into a random machine and boot; if you wanted something tailored to your machine you'd install it on the machine. AMD64 gives negligible performance benefits over ia32, and the reason Athlon64 has been successful is that it's a good 32-bit processor. So those who make livecds decide that a -1 to +2 percent performance difference isn't worth building extra isos that only a tiny fraction of users can use.
25 • The "spare bedroom" distributions (by Lord-Storm on 2004-05-26 23:46:47 GMT)
Well the organized commercial distros are nice but some are absolutely disapointing. Some back room distros work better than the commercial distros in some hardware configs. What about Morphix is that a commercial distro?? NO.. also its a fast way to get a good working system. Womp! also a targeted distro. MovX another one. All great back bedroom like you say but well worth the download. JAMD great distro... now called something else once they merged. JAMD 0.6 package management is better than Mandrakes.
SO DONT DISS THE DISTROS submit bug reports and look for where the distro is going to get an idea why you would like to support it.
26 • Re: no reason for amd64 livecds (by amd64fan on 2004-05-27 02:03:10 GMT)
Absolutely! That's what I thought too, but I still wanted to speak out and mention the idea. Obviously, mini liveCDs were created well after "normal' distros were around. I think this will be the same for 64-bit liveCDs as the industry slowly moves into the next generation. I can envisage myself going to my friends place, booting a liveCD instead of 64-bit Windows and saying "see, this is much better! Now let me install Linux for you :)"
27 • site changes (by anon on 2004-05-27 02:29:50 GMT)
The site changes look great, but a couple of things don't display correctly.
Try (on the front page) crarking Opera to 200% zoom (bad eyes), and
you will see the problems.
28 • RE: site changes (by ladislav at 2004-05-27 04:10:52 GMT)
29 • :) (by Harmless n00b on 2004-05-27 10:22:24 GMT)
No shooting n00bs, ok ? :)
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|• Issue 675 (2016-08-22): Gentoo LiveDVD "Choice Edition", moreutils, Ubuntu improves terminal convergence, MATE packaged for Openindiana, FreeBSD improves video support|
|• Issue 674 (2016-08-15): Zenwalk Linux 8.0, Ubuntu phone follow-up, Lubuntu transitioning to LXQt, Steam running on FreeBSD|
|• Issue 673 (2016-08-03): noop linux and EasyNAS, Debian's GnuPG switch, Fedora "Flock", using "nice"|
|• Issue 672 (2016-08-01): Ubuntu Phone 15.04, Solus embraces rolling release model, interview with Jane Silber, FreeBSD Quarterly Report|
|• Issue 671 (2016-07-25): Slackware 14.2, Point Linux 3.2, OpenBSD disables usermount, KaOS releases significant changes, Fedora 22 reaches end of life.|
|• Issue 670 (2016-07-18): Linux Lite 3.0, Bodhi team plans 4.0.0, pfSense changes licensing, running software across distributions, Linux Mint upgrade path|
|• Issue 669 (2016-07-11): Linux Mint 18, proving a system is secure, LibreSSL in FreeBSD, Ubuntu plans phasing out 32-bit, pfSense status report|
|• Issue 668 (2016-07-04): Fedora 24, Linux Mint plans for 18.1, FreeBSD and DragonFly BSD improve their file systems, comparing Flatpak, Snap and AppImage|
|• Issue 667 (2016-06-27): GeckoLinux 421, Fedora supports Flatpak, Solus unveils new features, running GNU/Linux on tablets|
|• Issue 666 (2016-06-20): Comparing more live update methods, Ubuntu's snap packages, Antergos drops 32-bit media, GeckoLinux unveils Rolling edition, learning Linux resources|
|• Issue 665 (2016-06-13): BunsenLabs Linux Hydrogen, Fedora 24 delayed, NetBSD grows in size, Clonezilla questions|
|• Issue 664 (2016-06-06): Sabayon 16.05, Debian updates install media, the cost of free software, Qubes explains secure build process|
|• Issue 663 (2016-05-30): Comparing live update methods, Ubuntu MATE's progress, distros debate systemd change, DistroWatch turns 15|
|• Issue 662 (2016-05-23): Clonezilla Live, new Fedora community repository, DragonFlyBSD runs Wayland, a live edition of Slackware and kernel components|
|• Issue 661 (2016-05-16): FreeBSD 10.3, OpenMandriva adopts Clang, Debian adds ZFS packages, PCLinuxOS drops 32-bit and comparing CentOS with RHEL|
|• Issue 660 (2016-05-09): Ubuntu MATE 16.04, Mint's xapps, FreeBSD Quarterly Report, Debian updates 32-bit support, addressing GPL violations|
|• Issue 659 (2016-05-02): Ubuntu 16.04, compiling custom kernels, Cinnamon 3.0, Sabayon launches ARM build, Devuan ships Beta release|
|• Issue 658 (2016-04-25): Kali Linux 2016.1, elementary OS 0.3.2, Debian elects Project Leader, Fedora 24 feature preview, Nard reaches 1.0|
|• Issue 657 (2016-04-18): Redox, Linux Mint improves update manager, planned Fedora 24 features, Ubuntu 16.04 getting Snappy packages|
|• Issue 656 (2016-04-11): Qubes OS 3.1, Whonix offers bug bounties, Puppy's family tree, setting up disk partitions and running bash on Windows|
|• Issue 655 (2016-04-04): Parsix 8.5, Sabayon's Community repository, Red Hat offers free subscriptions, Ubuntu tablets, command line tips|
|• Issue 654 (2016-03-28): PCLinuxOS 2016.03, Using signatures to create a web of trust, Arch Linux rolls out Pacman update, GuixSD packages GNOME|
|• Issue 653 (2016-03-21): Antergos 2016.02.21, Debian prepares for election, a Unix-like OS written in Rust, watching Netflix on FreeBSD|
|• Issue 652 (2016-03-14): ReactOS 0.4.0, Debian swaps Iceweasel for Firefox, Fedora moving forward with Wayland, Verifying ISO files|
|• Issue 651 (2016-03-07): Korora 23, Linux Mint improves security, Ubuntu MATE on Raspberry Pi 3 computers, trying different file systems|
|• Issue 650 (2016-02-29): Haiku in 2016, running Android apps on GNU/Linux, 30 years of MINIX, Fedora plans Atomic Workstation|
|• Issue 649 (2016-02-22): Zorin OS 11, openSUSE launches new editions, Linux Mint website compromised, sandboxing applications using Firejail|
|• Issue 648 (2016-02-15): XStream Desktop 153, Raspbian unveils OpenGL feature, free hardware, Ikey Doherty talks desktop design|
|• Issue 647 (2016-02-08): Tails 2.0, KDE project launches Neon, Manjaro unveils ARM support, FreeBSD's quarterly report|
|• Issue 646 (2016-02-01): deepin 15, Mint plans X-Apps, FreeBSD to support boot environments, logging into the desktop as root|
|• Issue 645 (2016-01-25): Linux Mint 17.3 "Xfce", Chromixium changes its name, Ubuntu tablets coming soon, Linux vs BSD comparision|
|• Issue 644 (2016-01-18): Kwort 4.3, Sabayon tests ARM images, Slackware adopts PulseAudio, running Linux without GNU software|
|• Issue 643 (2016-01-11): Solus 1.0, Mint provide upgrade path to 17.3, Fedora developers work on stability, running the LXQt desktop|
|• Issue 642 (2016-01-04): paldo GNU/Linux, vetting distro repositories, Fedora plans to adopt GCC 6, Ian Murdock passes|
|• Issue 641 (2015-12-21): Arch Linux, Qubes OS to ship on Librem laptops, ALT offers start kit images, the spread of systemd and launchd|
|• Issue 640 (2015-12-14): Chakra GNU/Linux 2015.11, removing meta-data from files, Ubuntu to remove on-line dash searches|
|• Issue 639 (2015-12-07): OpenBSD 5.8, openSUSE gathers Summer of Code proposals, running WINE on a live disc, Enlightenment adds Wayland support|
|• Issue 638 (2015-11-30): Qubes OS 3.0, KaOS with Plasma, NetBSD 7.0, Fedora seeks Wayland testers, scheduling tasks|
|• Issue 637 (2015-11-23): NixOS 15.09, Antergos introduces ZFS support, MINIX shares new features, copying an OS to a new computer|
|• Issue 636 (2015-11-16): openSUSE 42.1, Fedora uses Wayland by default, Debian replaces live CD project, Steam consoles launch|
|• Issue 635 (2015-11-09): Fedora 23, Cinnamon 2.8 released, a Fedora KDE packager quits, Red Hat signs deal with Microsoft|
|• Issue 634 (2015-11-02): Ubuntu 15.10, Chakra upgrades to Plasma 5, OpenMandriva plans new editions, MINIX plans conference|
|• Issue 633 (2015-10-26): GhostBSD 10.1, Bodhi Linux to get new settings panel, Fedora 23 delayed, creating live image of existing OS|
|• Issue 632 (2015-10-19): Linux Lite 2.6, 32-bit build of CentOS, OpenBSD turns 20, Bodhi Linux releases AppPack|
|• Issue 631 (2015-10-12): Parsix 8.0, Manjaro seeks new artwork, sending commands to multiple servers, Debian drops LSB support|
|• Issue 630 (2015-10-05): Android-x86 4.4-r3, Ubuntu's new installer, Raspbian defaults to GUI interface, cleaning out dot files|
|• Issue 629 (2015-09-28): Open source desktops and touch interfaces, locking down user accounts, OpenMandriva opens gaming documentation|
|• Issue 628 (2015-09-21): Neptune 4.4, changes to pfSense, Pinguy OS releases updated ISO images, accessing hard disk images|
|• Full list of all issues|
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